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boredcpl
11-27-2005, 6:30 PM
does anyone have any suggestions on breeding snakeheads? someone i know has 2 red snakeheads they are trying to breed with no luck... they are in a monster tank about 300 gallons or more bow front tank.. they have an undergravel filter with 3 or more powerheads on top. they have a big cave to hide in and some plants floating around... water quality is tip top shape and cleaned daily if needed. any info will be appreciated and passed on to them.. thank you.

e!o!z!
11-28-2005, 6:59 PM
I am sure someone here can help.

Timmy
11-28-2005, 10:42 PM
To my knowledge no one has breed reds in the home size tank. If the tank only has an undergravle filter that could also be a problem, as they dont really filter...

boredcpl
11-28-2005, 10:57 PM
this tank is in a fish store... they mainly use undergravel filters.. they have a main filter system through out the store but i dont think that tank is filtered... the water quility looks great.. and id say the water is the way they want it.. ph and hardness and stuff. but im wondering what ph they like and what they would need in the tank to help them feel comfortable to breed.. like plants and rocks.. any of you breeding these monsters let me know your tank setup.. gallons and ph level and so on. thanks for the replys so far.

ashdavid
11-28-2005, 11:02 PM
To my knowledge no one has breed reds in the home size tank. If the tank only has an undergravle filter that could also be a problem, as they dont really filter...

UGF are great biological filters, this statement is very misguided.

As for breeding snakeheads, are you sure they are not the same sex? Also what are their sizes? Is there any cover for them to retreat to?

boredcpl
11-28-2005, 11:10 PM
sexes i dont know.. i dont know how to tell.. the fish store is very knowledgeable.. they breed piranhas and angels and many other fish.. but they have been trying to breed these for some time now..how can you tell the differents in sexes.. the fish are about a foot and a half long.. they have plants floating in the tank for cover.. they have a cave but it looks to small for them to go into..

ashdavid
11-29-2005, 12:01 AM
It would be very hard to tell what sex they are at that small, not only that I doubt that they are able to breed at that size. I have heard that they are able to breed once they reach an age of about 3 to 4 years and, and usually at that age they should be well over 2' in lenght. Plus they are going to need a bigger tank IMO. To sex them the fish must be anaesthetised and then the sex organs must be checked, being there are small differences in the placement of the sexual organs on the male and females. At the presant time there are no other known ways to sex a snakehead to my knowledge.

boredcpl
11-29-2005, 12:08 AM
they are really big and they have been there awhile.. they upgraded the tank to a bigger tank not to long ago.. but the tank still dont look big enough for them to swim freely.. thanks for the info.. if they have any progress i will let you know.. and next time im there i will get better specs on tank and water.. right now im just guessing the tank..

suckerfish
12-01-2005, 3:55 PM
i would suggest removing powerheads and add alot of "planted" plants. they should rip them up and make a nest at the surface, hence i think the power heads will destroy the nest---maybe that's preventing them from finishing the deal. oh and put the tank somewhere that doesn't have much people traffic. you'd be surprized what channa will do when there aren't tons of people walking around and looking at them

boredcpl
12-01-2005, 10:40 PM
thats what i suggested.. they said they dont have a place to put the tank in hiding.. i told them if anything put it in a corner and rope it off so there wasnt much traffic around it.

tigetdat
05-13-2008, 12:11 PM
I have breed the red snakehead and several other species. I used to have 17 different species and had several pair of each species for breeding purposes . Sadly I sold off all my snakeheads shortly after the ban in 2002 as I could no longer ship SH across state lines. Yes I am still pissed I was breeding 1000 fish per month.

Back to breeding the Reds. Your Reds are large enough to breed but your 300gal tank is too small, I used a 8x4x4 and a 12x4x4 plywood tank I never got them to breed in anything smaller. Also both tanks were heavily planted and I mean the whole bottom was planted. There were 4" strip lights over the tanks. You definitely have a pair there is no way 2 reds would live together if they weren't a pair. Well they are male and female but they still might not breed, SH like to choose there mate form several choices. I started with 9 fish, got 2 good pairs and several dead fish. When 2 fish decide they are a pair they will kill the other snakeheads QUICK! The only time I was able to choose the pair of snakeheads to breed was with a pair of Northern snakeheads. I had 2 uniquely colored and patterned fish that happened to be male and female.
I will add that it isn't hard to the sexes apart with most snakeheads. I almost fell over laughing when I read

"To sex them the fish must be anaesthetised and then the sex organs must be checked, being there are small differences in the placement of the sexual organs on the male and females"

I can't think if a species of snakehead from little rainbows to giant reds that cant be sexed easily. You just got to know your Channa.

So the filter needs to be addressed, first remove the powerheads Reds breed in calm water. I had a canister filter but both the intake and the output from the canister were plumed to small under gravel plates at each side of the tank so there was almost no current in the tank. (this was a tank for breeding reds not keeping them in) also the heater was in line with the filter, breeding reds can break a heater. Also all channa are shy breeders. I have had parents kill there fry because I let a friend look at them or I was working on my car and the air compressor turned on. It dosnt take much to freek them out, I doubt they will breed in a fish store. I bred my reds in a garage the was not part of the house and I would feed them every other day. One other thing once you have fry be careful of the parents, they will come out of the water to attack you just to "protect" the fry.

and don't feed your SH beef heart or chicken just cut up fish and pellets if they will eat them...no feeders unless they are cichlids.

Thats all for now good luck

bignootch
05-14-2008, 9:09 PM
Sounds pretty solid to me!

Veacane
05-14-2008, 9:22 PM
I could just be ignorant, but I thought it was illegal to have snakeheads?

fobrinkle
05-14-2008, 9:50 PM
I could just be ignorant, but I thought it was illegal to have snakeheads?

this is a thread from 05'.

Tigerdat
05-15-2008, 11:16 AM
I used to breed Snakeheads before the ban in the US in 2002. They were always illegal in Ca where I currently live but I used to live in Co. and that is where I breed the red lines. Yes I did breed most of my snakeheads illegally in Ca where I currently live. This was all before the ban in 2002, I was breeding 1000 a month(I would use them for feeders for larger species when I couldnt sell them all) , most were gachuas but there other species too. Just to clarify there are still several states that snakeheads are legal! The problem is that you can't cross state lines or import new fish. The crossing of state lines is what stopped me from breeding and keeping Snakeheads anymore. I still like to pass on info and will allways help anyone that wants breeds them.

I figured my answer would be interesting even on such an old thread.

Oddball
05-15-2008, 11:24 AM
Just to clarify there are still several states that snakeheads are legal! The problem is that you can't cross state lines or import new fish.

Maryland is the only state that legalized the keeping of dwarf tropical snakehead species after the federal ban. However, there are still states that have no aquarium fish laws on their books. Whether they simply follow federal guidelines/laws needs to be researched by state.

fishbreeder12
05-15-2008, 8:33 PM
i dought that reds will breed in captivity

zfoster22
05-15-2008, 8:52 PM
im pretty sure missouri you can keep them but not bowfins. so where can i get one anyone know?

Tigerdat
05-15-2008, 11:27 PM
The Federal Snakehead ban of 2002 makes it illegal to import the fish to the US and to cross state lines with them only! Thats all!
The fed has no authority for a state ban on SH only to limit interstate commerce thats why they could ban the importation and crossing of state lines. At the time of the ban I think there were 18 stated that they were illegal. I am not sure how many stated made them illegal after the federal law, although I know Illinois banned them just after the federal law.

Tigerdat
05-16-2008, 12:20 AM
i dought that reds will breed in captivity
How would you know about breeding snakeheads you have a 25 gallon tank with tetras, gouramis and rams. That's food for a snakehead.
Snakeheads are not that hard to breed, there are just a few rules to fallow.

mercury904
05-24-2008, 4:45 AM
Ive seen dwarfs ,but still ain't seen a giant brood ...that will be site to see!

Tigerdat
05-27-2008, 8:34 AM
I am helping a friend breed channa pleurothalma, I will definitely post pictures. I have never breed this species but I believe they breed a lot like reds. Sorry I don't have any pictures of my reds breeding . That was before the internet and digital pictures. Ya I am that old. The photos I had were lost many years ago.

StiffMeister
05-27-2008, 8:43 AM
nobody any ideas on how to breed pleuros? any recordings of previous breedings?

Phillis
06-03-2008, 10:21 PM
i will so buy a snake head from you and i bet you will like my offer.

PhullTank57
06-04-2008, 2:28 AM
I am helping a friend breed channa pleurothalma, I will definitely post pictures. I have never breed this species but I believe they breed a lot like reds. Sorry I don't have any pictures of my reds breeding . That was before the internet and digital pictures. Ya I am that old. The photos I had were lost many years ago.
GL with the project, Tigerdat! :cheers: