who have the largest alligator gar here ! [Archive]

dodo16465

12-12-2007, 4:36 AM

plz show me the picture here.i feel that my alligator the largest here.

my monster 87 cm . No body want to show me any pic for largest gar here .only me because im the larger gar!

show it plz no body show me pic from web or animal zoo! I say owner only and biggest size u have.

Mystix212

12-12-2007, 5:35 AM

How big is yours exactly? I've seen some people on this forum with 2.25ft Gator Gars.

vinson lim

12-13-2007, 10:41 AM

.....i feel that my alligator the largest here.

how big is your gar??? 3ft???

some pic will be nice. :naughty:

pirarucu319

12-13-2007, 11:02 AM

plz show me the picture here.i feel that my alligator the largest here.

self-claim..biggest.??how big about ur monster gar,post some pic??:D

Zoodiver

12-13-2007, 11:05 AM

Can I play?

bal

12-13-2007, 11:19 AM

is this an ~ i will show ya mine if you show me yours~ thread?? lol..
we kept these babes long ago, but dont have any photos to show, i loved watching them eat with that lil side swipe motion!....and eat they did! everything in site, we had two of them

Weylin

12-13-2007, 11:36 AM

Prove it dodo..that urs is the biggest..

Zoodiver

12-13-2007, 3:52 PM

Ok, I'll toss "Dana" out there. She's about 6 1/2 feet long right now (roughly 192 cm). The next longest alligator gar I have is only about 4 1/2 feet long. The other three are all about 3 1/2 to 4 feet.

Weylin

12-13-2007, 3:54 PM

Now that's what u call a big gar...

plausible

12-13-2007, 3:55 PM

big~~:eek:
:jaw:

ESJBond007

12-13-2007, 6:14 PM

thats one big alligator gar..

Freke

12-13-2007, 6:54 PM

But zoodiver honestly thats not "ur" fish is it. Dont u work at a public zoo or somthing? But yeah its an awsome beast u got there

Zoodiver

12-13-2007, 7:15 PM

I don't own it, the company does. I just run the staff that cares for it all. He never said the owner of the biggest gar...... just the biggest one on the site.

KaraJo

12-13-2007, 10:59 PM

my monster 87 cm . No body want to show me any pic for largest gar here .only me because im the larger gar!

I hear a lot of talk, so post those pics of this "monster"

L Aquatics

12-13-2007, 11:07 PM

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/worldoforchid/steinhartaligar.jpg

all were well past the 6-7 foot mark

Polypterus

12-13-2007, 11:39 PM

http://www.thewatersnake.com/forums/uploads/monthly_11_2007/post-29-1193884805.jpg

And there you have it a bunch of pics of gar that some of us work with or have that are much larger than yours...

TheMightyOscar

12-14-2007, 5:48 AM

do we need three threads asking for the same thing?

DanProwse

12-14-2007, 9:41 AM

that tank's way too small, thats just cruel and selfish..

Weylin

12-14-2007, 9:59 AM

Dude give up.. u def dont have the biggest gar on MFK.. If u think so.. Then give us exact measurements... And do ur fish a favour and get them a bigger tank..

Polypterus

12-14-2007, 8:32 PM

Edit:....oh forget it

pirarucu319

12-15-2007, 11:24 AM

that's monster..i wonder how they react toward people that swim inside the tank..??i woundn't imagined "snapppin" happen..:D

ESJBond007

12-15-2007, 7:10 PM

yea since gator gars are the most aggressive gar species and will attack anything even as big as themselves..

cichlaguapote

12-15-2007, 7:20 PM

87cm =34" which a Alligator Gar will get to in no time at all.. It's a nice fish.. But this is MFK..

Polypterus

12-15-2007, 8:20 PM

87cm =34" which a Alligator Gar will get to in no time at all.. It's a nice fish.. But this is MFK..

Thats bigger than anyone one here has that does not work for some type of institution such as Matt. The fish he shows are not Three foot though. More like two..Maybe 2 1/2..

I know people that have 4 to 5 foot Gators but your not going to see them on here...(hell why am I here?)

Now that I think of it it seems you never see any of these people on here with their newly I'Ded gators ever say anything about after about a week or a month. Somehow the fish just disappears and is never seen again.

Is there anyone around here that actually keeps these fish with the intention of keeping it?

Polypterus

12-15-2007, 8:25 PM

that's monster..i wonder how they react toward people that swim inside the tank..??i woundn't imagined "snapppin" happen..:D

They are quite docile and gentle in reality. The only time they are dangerous is in moving large ones or working with large ones in shallow water. It is not their teeth that one should worry about it is their tail and scales. This is what will mess you up.

vinson lim

12-15-2007, 8:53 PM

hmmm.... self own.... 87cm, that almost 1 meter....

nice looking anyway. :)

Crazy Taco

12-15-2007, 8:59 PM

thats one scary gar

Polypterus

12-15-2007, 9:35 PM

thats one scary gar

If you have actually kept them or worked with them, you would find there is no such thing as a scary gar..stop promoting misinformation about these fish. It does nothing good for them.

vinson lim

12-16-2007, 3:14 AM

any pic of full tank shot...????

madmac82

12-18-2007, 5:18 PM

ESJBond007

12-18-2007, 8:09 PM

nice looking gator gar..

arosvios

12-19-2007, 3:31 AM

Really an eye opener to see those big gars. Monster fish keepers live!!!!!

bobVillanueva

12-19-2007, 10:16 AM

87 cm is < than 3 feet... i think a gar can reach that mark in no time... try browsing through the pond section to find out that you dont have the BIGGEST gar....

side note: don't ya guys think that width of his tank is to short for the Gar to turn?

pirarucu319

12-19-2007, 10:46 AM

nice lookin gator..the colour is awesome..:D

cichlaguapote

12-19-2007, 10:57 AM

Now that I think of it it seems you never see any of these people on here with their newly I'Ded gators ever say anything about after about a week or a month. Somehow the fish just disappears and is never seen again.

But doesn't a gator gar reach 3ft rather fast? I thought I read that?

I agree with you though, alot seem to disapear soon after the people obtain them..

vinson lim

12-22-2007, 1:16 AM

no response frm this thread starter... ???

wonder where he is....???

any update man ??? any full tank shot... ?

minizookeeper

12-24-2007, 11:10 PM

i think you scared him away or hopefully buying a new tank!!!! i am a fishKEEPER and i just got a new baby today only 8" and in a 210 from start.

Polypterus

12-25-2007, 12:23 AM

I would advise you put that fish in a smaller tank before it kills it self....Grow it out a bit then introduce it.

Stone Like Fish

12-25-2007, 12:38 AM

Can you explain please Brooklamprey? Thought a bigger tank would be good to start?

Polypterus

12-25-2007, 12:55 AM

Can you explain please Brooklamprey? Thought a bigger tank would be good to start?

Not the case of it being good... It is best to raise these fish at this size in a smaller tank and move them up as they grow. Little gar in a big tank is a bad idea especially when coupled with tankmates. Incidence of loss or unrecoverable injury is much greater when keeping a small gar in a large tank.

X24

12-25-2007, 12:55 AM

i must say i hate seeing alligator gars being bought...or any fish that gets to such extremes of sizes....seems most of the time they don't reach half of their usual natural size...why not instead of getting an alligator and trying to grow it to full size using the smallest tanks possible for this, you go with a florida, shortnose, longnose, ect. and grow it out to full potential with a nice size tank for it?

it must just be me....

nice fish none-the-less.

Polypterus

12-25-2007, 1:08 AM

I personally like to see people working with Gator Gars but one needs to understand them a bit and understand what they are getting themselves into. These are not fish to keep just for some status statement. They are tough to work with and need a great deal of attention and resources.

minizookeeper

12-25-2007, 1:53 AM

im sure i dont know everything about these fish but i am for sure up for the challange.he is in this tank until i finish a new tank that is in progress. its two 55 gallon tanks ,one on top of the other with a sump in the stand. he will be in one tank and am looking for a snakehead right now for the other.this summer my rtc,aro,and blk pacu move up from 300 and get an indoor pond. keep fish for life, can i hear an amen!!!

Death Pony

12-25-2007, 7:09 PM

not the biggest Gar on here but i like her :). this is from a gud few months ago, when she was bak in my 4foot tank for a while (long story). shes only about 15inch or so in this pic but shes about 22inch now.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/madmac82/Picture011.jpg

She's beautiful!!!!!! If I had a large pond I'd put one of these beauties in there. Had one big enough at my old house but it was never filled.

KNH

12-25-2007, 7:40 PM

Can you explain please Brooklamprey? Thought a bigger tank would be good to start?

I always feel that large growing fish should be raised in a large tank from the start. Catching and moving a fish is very stressful for them and can weaken thier immune system. The only exception would be if the fish was too small for its tankmates and needed to grow-out first in order to survive.
KNH

minizookeeper

12-25-2007, 8:24 PM

i agree with knh, but still unsure with perticular breed and always open for more opinions.the two 55 gal tank set up is being filled as i type and am still going to put him in the 55 from the 210.i only worry about one tank mate in the 210 and that is a med. size artc.in the 55 he will be alone.keep the knowledge coming. thanks guys and merry x-mas.

Polypterus

12-25-2007, 9:39 PM

Putting a tiny fish in a huge tank can stress it and weaken it's immune system much more than netting it.

Gars are not like other fish species and an understanding of them on a morphologic and physiologic level is how you succeed with them. I can not repeat this enough.. Large tanks and small gars is generally a bad idea. Step them as they grow and you will have much better results.

ethnics

12-25-2007, 10:10 PM

minizookeeper

12-25-2007, 10:22 PM

i have the room for going 2 ways. 1. leave him in the 210 which he looks fine in for now (experience tells me its ok but risky)or ,2. i just set up my 110 combo and is ready to go, for him to be bye himself.i have moved tons of fish and water so stress in movement is at min.his new home will be the 55 this way there will be no tankmate losses, and i can truely keep track of him better at this stage of his life.

KNH

12-25-2007, 10:26 PM

Putting a tiny fish in a huge tank can stress it and weaken it's immune system much more than netting it.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one;)
KNH

ethnics

12-26-2007, 12:28 AM

i think raising it with tankmates could be very important and beneficial so i disagree with poly on that. raise a gator alone for a long long time, then toss him in with tankmates hes never had or delt with and all of a sudden your supposed to assume your tankmates are going to be safe? and gars are very spazmatic, so having the appropriate room for a spazmatic fish to me is very important. my lil guy in a 150gal with a 6'x20" platform was pinging off the sides and lid every time he was spooked. having the room available to spaz out is only a plus. i don't see having proper room to grow such as the wild ahem ahem causing stress or improper weak immune system... it just doesn't make sense

minizookeeper

12-26-2007, 3:36 AM

Polypterus

12-26-2007, 11:23 AM

my 12" gator loves his 400gal tank. along with many tankmates.

grew him from 2" to 12" in a few months in a 150gal then moved him just a week or 2 ago.

nowhere near biggest, but give me a few more years, and if you know me as well as others on here do, you'll see some updates of him in the future.

and yes i still have my shortnose gar you denied me of, and yes he's 2ft long now, and yes he's more then healthy.

Thats nice that yours seems to be doing fine but yours are an exception. For as many successes I've heard of in raising gar like that, I've read five accounts of how it failed and ended with a dead fish.

Step wise progression of tank size on the other hand has almost a 90% success rate and is well documented. This husbandry protocol was developed over many years with co-operation of many different people it is not a singular experience or opinion. It is a tested and proved technique.

So for those that wish to raise gar which would you use ???? Pick one it is your choice.

You can hope and prey you get good results on anecdotal successes or you can use a tested technique and achieve good results.

Polypterus

12-26-2007, 11:45 AM

well poly was right as soon as i put my 6" gator in a 55 all bye himself within 5 mins he had stocked and killed his first meal at my home(1 lrg goldfish).:)he looks alot less stressed(weird).some dedication huh? here it is midnight x-mas and just got done with fish stuff.how many gars have you raised poly?

Excellent... You should be able to get it nice and big in no time and it should be ready for a larger tank very soon if all goes well.

I've personally raised well over 200 gars in both professional and hobby situations, many where raised from larvae to sub-adult / adult. I have kept all seven species and a couple hybrids.

Currently I'm working with Tropicals, Cubans, and Shortnosed. This spring we (Gar Illuminati) will be collecting (and or spawning) Spotteds from known locality so there is no doubt as to what they are. Data is deficient on these fish in terms of captive husbandry and morphology. Wild data from their Northern range is also deficient so it is a win win project.

minizookeeper

12-26-2007, 11:55 AM

thanks for sound advise.it really worked. moving him was not so bad.....yet!!!!he really perked up almost instantly. from now on my gar questions will be directed your way:)i will keep you posted on how fast he grows.i might have a new favorite fish.these things are way cool and cant wait till he is pond size.

Jamietron

12-26-2007, 9:46 PM

Putting a tiny fish in a huge tank can stress it and weaken it's immune system much more than netting it.

That is such a load of ****. How the hell do you think they survive in the wild where the rivers and lakes are millions of gallons or do they rely on you and your tiny tanks to survive. Get off your hobby horse.

Polypterus

12-26-2007, 10:21 PM

That is such a load of ****. How the hell do you think they survive in the wild where the rivers and lakes are millions of gallons or do they rely on you and your tiny tanks to survive. Get off your hobby horse.

OK.... can I ask you something???

How is a glass box and captivity "the wild"?

Also do you know anything about patterns of movement in Larval and Juvenile gar in the wild? Have you done any work on this? What do you know about these fish at all? I'm sure you have all sorts of knowledge coming from New Zealand about Locally native fish in the US that us here working with them on a regular basis have no knowledge of.

Thanks.... now feel free to shut the hell up unless you care to give some data or information that can back your points...

E_americanus

12-27-2007, 12:29 PM

That is such a load of ****. How the hell do you think they survive in the wild where the rivers and lakes are millions of gallons or do they rely on you and your tiny tanks to survive. Get off your hobby horse.

i definitely agree with richard (polypterus) on this, and have confirmed it myself many times in the wild.

YOY gar, although in large river or lake systems, actually confine themselves to pretty small areas of slow-moving water around aquatic vegetation. they don't make seasonal migrations or local migrations based on food like the larger juveniles, sub-adults, and adults do.

and although there are few good comparisons that can be made between glass boxes and the wild, setting up a small tank with a lot of floating vegetation for a YOY gar can go a long way towards making them feel secure, generally less skittish, and healthier as they grow towards moving into bigger tanks and new tankmates.

please do some research before you claim statements are incorrect (or **** as you so eloquently put it) --
--solomon

killerfish

12-27-2007, 6:23 PM

huhh this is MFK and seeing as gator gars get over 10 FEET i'd think alot more people here would have huge gars hmm just have to give them time i suppose

and no i don't have a gator gar or any true gar for now at least

minizookeeper

12-27-2007, 9:20 PM

i agree there are only a few real monsters and the gator gar is for sure one of them. i feel lucky to keep one.(8") this experience will teach me and my 11 year old daughter alot.there is one question i do have for you and that is should i be seeing huge belly like a catfish when eating, or should they eat just enough and stay lean? my very small needlefish(gar?)eats a big gf or rosy and stays thin.ive also noticed that it likes to swim next to moving floating plants.would debris work the same?i think im going to try a stationary tree branch from my lfs.

FisHaRNekEd

12-27-2007, 9:57 PM

They are quite docile and gentle in reality. The only time they are dangerous is in moving large ones or working with large ones in shallow water. It is not their teeth that one should worry about it is their tail and scales. This is what will mess you up.

i agree

I got raked by the mouth of a 3' common gar (it was in his/her own defense) their teeth aren't for cutting, they are like spikes for grabbing, not like piranahs or sharks that could take a chunk out of you.

that giant mouth only scraped my skin, the infection however was nasty for a littlewhile...

VLDesign

12-28-2007, 9:06 AM

Providing you don't kill it by keeping it in a home aquarium too long; What will you do with it when it reaches 4-5' in length?

vinson lim

01-03-2008, 2:30 PM

no response frm this thread starter... ???

wonder where he is....???

any update man ??? any full tank shot... ?

almost 2 weeks i waited..... :(

that guy over there

01-08-2008, 11:55 PM

Where is the tc...i want to see his reaction..

minizookeeper

01-09-2008, 1:16 AM

Polypterus

01-09-2008, 9:10 AM

very happy in new tank its been a couple of weeks now and he is doing great. i can really keep a close eye on him and he knows who i am already. when i come next to his tank he comes right to me as if to say feed me,feed me . really cool to connect with him like this.he is not shy or skiddish as some have said he would be.ive been feeding him gf and convicts. but starting soon traning with feeding stick and fillet chunks. any advise polypterus? words of wisdom? seems to me you know your gars. thanks

Good thing he's calming down, accustomed and doing the classic Atractosteus begging..... You really should have no issues getting the fish to feed on fillets. Gators are in general garbage disposals and will pick up quickly to any sorts of foods. Helps things along at first to use long thin slices rather than chunks.

PoopSmart

01-09-2008, 9:39 AM

Somebody released a gator gar in a trailer park pond nearby here and it ate ducks and dogs. I think the news said it was 8 feet long, but I never saw a picture of it, just a bunch of people on the news crying and screaming, "No dogs go by there no more cause they know its somethin bad!"

FisHaRNekEd

01-09-2008, 12:53 PM

It was this one, they found a license plate , 4 dogs, 2 possums, a 12 year old human child, and one live bandicoot in its belly during the autopsy.

vinson lim

01-09-2008, 1:13 PM

It was this one, they found a license plate , 4 dogs, 2 possums, a 12 year old human child, and one live bandicoot in its belly during the autopsy.

its sad to hear that.

issit true anyway ???

Polypterus

01-09-2008, 4:44 PM

its sad to hear that.

issit true anyway ???

No it is not....That was a joke....
and about as real as the "Dog-eating trailer park gar"....It was not a gar it was a Snakehead...

convict94

01-09-2008, 4:59 PM

when i was about 6 or 7 i caught an alligator gar while ice fishing it was about 50"+ it was so big that it couldn't fit through the hole in the ice shanny.

demjor19

01-09-2008, 5:56 PM

No it is not....That was a joke....
and about as real as the "Dog-eating trailer park gar"....It was not a gar it was a Snakehead...

a snakehead that is big enough to eat a dog? do you know what sp.?

Polypterus

01-09-2008, 8:00 PM

a snakehead that is big enough to eat a dog? do you know what sp.?

Guacha of coarse everyone knows this.... Yeesh
They eat Bull mastiffs in one gulp...and take down pitbulls chained up forty feet from any body of water....

OK well anyhow.... are we done with posting a bunch of spam, crap and stupidity???

Can we focus on the FACTS about gar and not stupid myths or outright Lies about them? These fish already have a bad reputation can we at least discuss the truth about them rather then the lies that have fueled ignorance about them?

My god why is it so hard to give any respect to these fish for what they are? "Gator gar eat dogs"...:irked: ... "It will bite your hand off".... :irked:

"What do I feed my Rocket gar, Asian gar, marble gar"..... :irked:....Yeah lets just lump these unrelated fish by common name and further disrespect lepisosteids of their right to be treated with respect and dignity and lump them in with Tetras and flying fish... Not like the state sponsored systematic extermination attempts where not enough, now lets just make sure they remain something unimportant by dilution....

demjor19

01-09-2008, 8:37 PM

Guacha of coarse everyone knows this.... Yeesh
They eat Bull mastiffs in one gulp...and take down pitbulls chained up forty feet from any body of water....

OK well anyhow.... are we done with posting a bunch of spam, crap and stupidity???

Can we focus on the FACTS about gar and not stupid myths or outright Lies about them? These fish already have a bad reputation can we at least discuss the truth about them rather then the lies that have fueled ignorance about them?

My god why is it so hard to give any respect to these fish for what they are? "Gator gar eat dogs"...:irked: ... "It will bite your hand off".... :irked:

"What do I feed my Rocket gar, Asian gar, marble gar"..... :irked:....Yeah lets just lump these unrelated fish by common name and further disrespect lepisosteids of their right to be treated with respect and dignity and lump them in with Tetras and flying fish... Not like the state sponsored systematic extermination attempts where not enough, now lets just make sure they remain something unimportant by dilution....

ok...thats what i thought. never heard of a GIANT snakehead. you just caught me off guard since you normally dont post BS.

as far as gar go...i get so tired of seeing people killing them w/ a bow and arrow and just letting them rot! what do people have against them? the only reasoning ive ever heard is that "they eat all the gamefish". this is a BS reason in my opinion. if they were an invasive species i could see, but they are as native as a fish can be.

minizookeeper

01-10-2008, 12:45 AM

E_americanus

01-10-2008, 2:03 AM

i agree with polypterus no more bs all you guys can find another web site as far as im concerned. facts only. tonight was the first time i tried to feed with feeding stick.first try was with live gf on a stick(yummy)at least i thought it looked good.the gar didnt think so.he eyeballed it for a while and refused.we will try again tomorrow.this is day two for no eating. how long do you think i should wait to give in?i would think not long but you know more about this species then i do.(as i said before my gar questions are directed to richard(polypterus)and anyone else who has first hand experience only. hope i can call you richard.:)thanks for all your help.

gators will eventually eat just about anything. go with the feeding stick method until he takes it...don't give in as the fish can go for a loooong time without eating. the fish will eventually come around. you may also want to try something like raw shrimp/smelt/tilapia/silversides on a stick, as i've had gars that initially took those off the stick better than dead rosies or other feeders. keeping goldfish away from your gar is the best move anyway. good luck--
--solomon

minizookeeper

01-10-2008, 2:33 AM

thanks for info solomon. i want (irwin)to be as healthy as he can be in my care.i hope to soon be able to answer questions about gators too.only time will further my knowledge on this species. kinda hard when i dont have anything else like him to compare to but thats why you guys are here right.i have 30yrs experience with fw monsters(nothing like this thou!!!)got my first big tank when i was 9.i feed all my fish tilapia chuncks or strips among other things(too many too list)they all love it. i can see a day in the near future when ill need to throw whole chicken or duck in a converted swimming pool or huge pond:). i try to not stunt the growth of any of my fish as this summer ill be finished with my indoor pond(10 foot x 5 foot x 30") im collecting materials right now. you guys are a great help and i cant thank you enough.ill post new pics tomorrow.

FisHaRNekEd

01-10-2008, 7:59 AM

Glad to hear Irwin is doing well. Thanks in advance for posting the pics. I move too often to have anything that wont fit in a 5gl bucket or 40gl tote to move, so My fantasy of having a gator is purely lived thru Irwin, and the others on this site.
As for the BS, I find It amusing that it gets bad enough to have the SciFi chanel make a movie about it, then people are scared to go anywhere near water. Kinda like Jaws when It first came out.
I agree with killing something for no reason and letting it rot, terrible to waste good meat.
Good luck with your pond, what are you constructing it out of? do you have that project in another thread? If you'r scavenging, have you looked on craigslist or freecycle? I give things and get things for free all the time on there, its great.

and where is this post creator, I wanted to see who have the largest alligator gar here

phantoms

01-10-2008, 9:09 PM

alligator gar in detroit michigan? 50 inches? little outside their normal range dontcha think

fishaholic

01-10-2008, 10:25 PM

yeah,ya think!
and it was caught through the frozen lake too.:screwy:

minizookeeper

01-11-2008, 12:41 AM

ok now were cooking. irwin just fattened up with 3 med. size strips of fresh catfish fillet on a stick.:) i am so happy, it wont be long now. this morning he ate a gf on a stick and now i dont have to feed him anymore gf. i think he likes to chase the convicts i throw in, it gives him something to hunt. where is the dodo thread starter? he must of gone to the kitchen and poured himself a big cup of shut the hell up. i guess thats what happens when you speak before you think.(hellooooo this is a monster fish site what was he thinking?????????) oh well we all learn one way or another.did i mention that im very happy right now(proud pa-pa) thank you soloman, and thank you richard. you two have been the most help for me. ill keep you all posted on his upbringing. happy fishing:)

E_americanus

01-11-2008, 12:44 AM

congrats on getting the little monster to take non-live food! he'll soon take just about any meaty food (and maybe some others too...my croc gar and large t-gar eat algae wafers as well).
i'm sure richard would agree, but no matter how many times it happens, it's always cool when a gar takes non-live food for the first time. nice job--
--solomon

minizookeeper

01-11-2008, 1:08 AM

i just cant believe how many fish store owners feed there fish gf. you would think they would know better. i guess it just makes it that much better when you do things the right way.sry forgot to take pics. ill do it tomorrow after work. i havent been this excited with my fish since my rtc (hoover)hit the 30" mark.thaks again.

vinson lim

01-11-2008, 11:37 AM

yeah,ya think!
and it was caught through the frozen lake too.:screwy:

i read, and i was thinking too...!!! :screwy:

alex2158

01-16-2008, 6:30 PM

lets see some more pics in here of everyones big gars mine is only 7 inches and i dont kno how to add pics but wen i find out i will add one

FisHaRNekEd

01-16-2008, 11:14 PM

^

When you reply, click the go advanced, then click the button that looks like a paper clip,then a new window will pop up, then click on browse, and find the pics on your desktop or puter, then click upload. When the browser stops spinning, the pics are uploaded, so type what u gonna type then click submit reply.