My Gars

[Idealconcepts]

The first pic is a gar I have had for about 2-3 months and eating Hikari sinking pellets, he eats the food sticks also but mainly the sinking pellets. Can you guys verify that it is a Shortnose? Or is it something else? He is about 8-9 inches long at about as thick as a big marker.

The other three pics are of gars I just got today that were labeled Long nose gars. Can you verify they are Long Nose Gars?

[Weylin]

The 1st one is a Florida/spotted gar.. And the other 3 r longnose gars..

[Weylin]

Repost.

[Idealconcepts]

Thanks Weylin. The Florida/Spotted gar, get about 2ft in an aquarium?

[channarox]

yup.

[Idealconcepts]

Thanks channarox.

[ESJBond007]

nice looking Florida/spotted and long nose gars..

[Idealconcepts]

Thanks ESJBond007.

Just to clarify I have one spotted and 4 Longnose. Got 3 possibly 4 of them to eat frozen blood worms and two to eat Hikari Food Sticks. Can't wait to bulk them up.

[ESJBond007]

what size tank do u have them in right now?

[aggressor09]

hi, im fairly sure its a spotted gar. You can tell by the size from tip of snout to eye vs. the size from the end of the gill cover to eye. If its over 2/3rds of the snout length long, youve got a silver.
I do realize that what i just wrote made very little sense, im going with spotted vs florida. If you post a pic with a clear eye and gill region, then we can tell for sure.

[Polypterus]

hi, im fairly sure its a spotted gar. You can tell by the size from tip of snout to eye vs. the size from the end of the gill cover to eye. If its over 2/3rds of the snout length long, youve got a silver.
I do realize that what i just wrote made very little sense, im going with spotted vs florida. If you post a pic with a clear eye and gill region, then we can tell for sure.

This technique does not work on Sub adult fish and questionably works on any captive fish.

We have went over hundreds of Wild, hobby and preserved Oculatus and Platyrhincus and found that this is at best a secondary ID trait (If that) with wild fish and useless in aquacultured or captive raised fish.

The only guaranteed method to distinguish a Florida from a spotted, without killing it, is to know exactly where it came from. There really is no point to attempt distinguishing them without locality information.

[Idealconcepts]

what size tank do u have them in right now?
The Florida/Spotted or the Long nose?
The Florida/Spotted is in a 40gal breed by himself and the long nose are in a 10gal quarrantine tank.



hi, im fairly sure its a spotted gar. You can tell by the size from tip of snout to eye vs. the size from the end of the gill cover to eye. If its over 2/3rds of the snout length long, youve got a silver.
I do realize that what i just wrote made very little sense, im going with spotted vs florida. If you post a pic with a clear eye and gill region, then we can tell for sure.

I'll try to take a clear pix soon.



This technique does not work on Sub adult fish and questionably works on any captive fish.

We have went over hundreds of Wild, hobby and preserved Oculatus and Platyrhincus and found that this is at best a secondary ID trait (If that) with wild fish and useless in aquacultured or captive raised fish.

The only guaranteed method to distinguish a Florida from a spotted, without killing it, is to know exactly where it came from. There really is no point to attempt distinguishing them without locality information.

Are there any differences with the Florida and Spotted, regarding size, aggression, or anything else?

[Polypterus]

Are there any differences with the Florida and Spotted, regarding size, aggression, or anything else?

They are identical in most respects with only insignificant differences in size and behavior in captivity.

[vinson lim]

nice colouration of your spot/flo gar, i love it.

and cute lngnose gar as well.

[Idealconcepts]

They are identical in most respects with only insignificant differences in size and behavior in captivity.

Thanks Polypterus, appreciate the info.




nice colouration of your spot/flo gar, i love it.

and cute lngnose gar as well.

Thanks vinson lim. I really like the pattern on my florida/spotted.


I got rid of one of my Long nosed. Three I kept all eat pellets, two greedily and the third is getting the point that its food.

[West1]

Here goes my Spotted Gar with one of his tank mates.
He is about 9.5" long (maybe a lil longer)

[skimmy518]

nice spotted gar color!

[skimmy518]

how big to payara get?

[West1]

how big to payara get?

Depending on the species
Scomb die for no reason around 11"
Red Tail I hear max out around 18"
Armatus max out around 2-3'

I have a Red Tail at about 8.25" of Hate:popcorn:

[skimmy518]

how big of a tank would you need for one?

[West1]

how big of a tank would you need for one?

For what?? Red Tail I say 150gl comfortable as they swim way more aggressive than the Gars
You can find more info on the Reds under the "predatory fish" since this thread is for Gars :)

[Idealconcepts]

Here goes my Spotted Gar with one of his tank mates.
He is about 9.5" long (maybe a lil longer)

Nice spotted/florida West1. He is about and inch or two bigger than mine. How long have you had the two together and how do they get along?

[West1]

I just got my Red 2 fridays ago. They get along perfect! The gar and the payara actually hang out together. The payara is quickly growing hate for my VATF'S as he chases them if they come close to him or sometimes to close to the gar.
By the way, I don't know myself if its a florida or spotted. When I bought it they said spotted, so I guess spotted :)

[ESJBond007]

nice looking Florida/Spotted gar..

[Idealconcepts]

I just got my Red 2 fridays ago. They get along perfect! The gar and the payara actually hang out together. The payara is quickly growing hate for my VATF'S as he chases them if they come close to him or sometimes to close to the gar.
By the way, I don't know myself if its a florida or spotted. When I bought it they said spotted, so I guess spotted :)

That is good they ar getting along.

nice looking Florida/Spotted gar..

Thanks.

[Nic]

nice gars what size tank they going in??

[Idealconcepts]

nice gars what size tank they going in??

40gal breeder all by his lonesome. He was in a 20gal tall. Will eventually go in my 180gal, 240gal as soon as I can get one, or my 300gal (but looking to replace it with a larger wider tank).

[West1]

nice gars what size tank they going in??

Not sure if the Q was for me, but ...

Gar is in my 150 (5x2x2)

[West1]

My newest addition
4" (disk) motoro :drool:

[Idealconcepts]

My newest addition
4" (disk) motoro :drool:

Very nice. I want one but gonna wait until I can get a 3 or 4 foot wide tank.

[E_americanus]

My newest addition
4" (disk) motoro :drool:

keep an eye on the gar...generally gars and rays are not a good combination as gars are known to randomly swipe at tankmates, especially during feeding or when they are hungry. most fishes can recover from potential damage relatively well, but rays, especially younger rays may not rebound as quickly. this has been documented by several people who have tried the combination...some ended up with a ray with only one eye.--
--solomon

[West1]

keep an eye on the gar...generally gars and rays are not a good combination as gars are known to randomly swipe at tankmates, especially during feeding or when they are hungry. most fishes can recover from potential damage relatively well, but rays, especially younger rays may not rebound as quickly. this has been documented by several people who have tried the combination...some ended up with a ray with only one eye.--
--solomon

Really?? Man, I hope I have a mellow gar! He seems pretty calm and when eating he is pretty peaceful. I will keep a close eye. Thank you!!