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rayman45
04-01-2005, 12:15 AM
ok ie rtcXtsh

do they put a rtc(male) and a female tsn together

or sicentificly(spelling lol)

piranha45
04-01-2005, 12:16 AM
I wouldnt think it would make any difference...

rayman45
04-01-2005, 12:20 AM
no im not saying there is a difference

just wanting to know how they do it \

WckedMidas
04-01-2005, 2:46 AM
Honestly they take and jerk a male fish off. and remove the eggs from the female of the other spieces and use the milk from the male to fertlize the eggs

M|L
04-02-2005, 9:39 PM
the fish does not mate naturally, they are artificially inseminated.

evilcat
04-03-2005, 10:26 PM
the original story behind the cross was that the two types of cats were being kept and bred in separate holding ponds, but that during the rainy season ( both cats are native to the Amazon river in South America) the ponds overflowed into one another and the cats inadvertenly cross-bred. The real truth of the matter is that Japanese were the source of crossed-up cats. They have been messing around with fish genetics for quite some time: they are the only source of domestically bred clown loachs, red tail sharks, rummy nose tetras etc. all forced to breed by artifical application of hormones.They are also the origin of the infamous parrot cichlid.Though the cross is often a handsome animal , they are in themselves inable to reproduce ; which leaves them at a dead end.

piranha45
04-03-2005, 10:33 PM
Parrots, handsome animals? heh.

one of my biggest unexpected joys in fishkeeping was watching my 9" texas beat my dad's 2" dyed blood parrot to death, after my dad foolishly threw the fish in my tank. Natural selection at work, baby.

The TRUST
04-07-2005, 10:47 AM
Evilcat,


I don't think it's the Japanese that made the blood parrot. They were created eaither in Taiwan or somewhere in Southeast Asia.

However I agree to the fact that the Hyrbid cats were created with hormones and manually crossbred with human intervention.

Wesley
04-08-2005, 9:09 PM
Evilcat,


I don't think it's the Japanese that made the blood parrot. They were created eaither in Taiwan or somewhere in Southeast Asia.

However I agree to the fact that the Hyrbid cats were created with hormones and manually crossbred with human intervention.




Agree.. Taiwan or Malaysia are the key suspects here...
Japanese are mainly Buyers of AAA monsterfish but they rarely farm
tropical fish probably because of space and the weather.

neoprodigy
04-09-2005, 12:25 AM
what kind of cross are these?

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/1DSC02242-med.jpg

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/1DSC02237-med.jpg

rayman45
04-09-2005, 1:58 AM
i say rtcXtsn that took after the rtc more
many disagree but i stand at this

WckedMidas
04-09-2005, 2:25 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/num1stoner/april7th2005015.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/num1stoner/april6th2005023.jpgtsn
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/wckedmidas/P1010015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/wckedmidas/march16th029.jpg

WckedMidas
04-09-2005, 2:25 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/wckedmidas/march16th005.jpgred tail tsn hybrid
and i borowed these two pics from another site i have the other two tho.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/num1stoner/Phractocephalus_hemioliopterus_b.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/num1stoner/redtailcat_s.jpg

I would like to get a red tail.And ide like to get a b jurense and the tsn x marble cat

rayman45
04-09-2005, 2:27 AM
NEVER SEEN A TSNxMARBLED

WckedMidas
04-09-2005, 2:32 AM
you all decide. But just remember a tsn isnt born with stripes. They grow into them and i beleve i see stripes starting to form atleast i think i do. lets here everyones oppinion.

WckedMidas
04-09-2005, 2:32 AM
i seen a couple pics on ww of them thats it,.

rayman45
04-09-2005, 2:33 AM
I STAND RTCxTSN

neoprodigy
04-09-2005, 9:05 AM
NEVER SEEN A TSNxMARBLED
you havent???

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/1DSC012621-med.jpg

rayman45
04-09-2005, 11:10 AM
cool

got pics of a baby?

Rui
05-04-2005, 8:30 PM
I just bought a RTCxMarbled yesterday! Impulse buy...I threw him into my 230, and my Red Texas hybrid took a big bite into him...I stayed up until 2:30am trying to catch him and throw him into my sump and grow him up there until he doubles/triples his size. Can't get him from underneath my big boulder I have in there...

Might have to go out and buy #2 that the store had..Very nice. I will post pics once I can move him.

dascsh
05-04-2005, 8:34 PM
I have one that has grown quickly to 18" and is slowing down.

Rui
05-10-2005, 12:25 AM
Any pics? I would really like to see what an RTCxMarbled will look like when it gets that big. Very nicely spotted right now, with a scissor tail.

I have tried to net mine and throw it in my sump until it is larger, but it is impossible to get, as that boulder weighs about 120lbs, and the top of the tank is about 5'5" off the ground. A 230 gallon is too deep..but I do see it eating pellets and anything else that happens underneath it. I think he will survive in their anyways.

I will try to focus my camera underneath it and post up a pic. Can barely see him where he is.

predsg
05-10-2005, 12:38 AM
PICS . NEVER ENOUGH OF THOSE!! PLEASE POST THEM

Rui
05-15-2005, 6:22 PM
I would post pics of mine, but it got eaten by my cichlids.. There are smaller cichlids in the tank, and they decide to the catfish :wall:

Time for a culling of the big tank anyways..Anyone live in Calgary? I will give you some fish if you are interested...

rayman45
05-16-2005, 6:20 AM
I have one that has grown quickly to 18" and is slowing down.
x breeds grow faster then the parents
and bigger

Oddball
05-21-2005, 1:03 PM
Here's my little 1 footer. I'll try to get a better pic that shows his red tail.

civic93
05-21-2005, 2:11 PM
i was interested in picking up one of these catfish. where can you find them. thanks.

M|L
05-21-2005, 10:34 PM
x breeds grow faster then the parents
and bigger

Although not denying the validity of that statement, but so far I haven't seen/hear of a solid proof behind that.