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bella535
01-18-2008, 11:59 AM
i recently purchased a pair of guppy's to breed. i never had guppys before so i don't know much about them. i thought she was pregnant cuz her gravid spot was dark and big. i put her in the breeding piece and overnight her gravid spot became clear....she doesn't look preg to me anymore.....any help is appreciated.

NilePufferFanatic
01-18-2008, 12:39 PM
I hear that guppies can absorb their young. Make sure that your water has proper parameters (a local fish store (LFS) will check this for free) and make sure it is dechlorinated.

Another possiblity is that the young didn't escape their hungry mother. Baby guppies are delicious to all fish.

chicken_boy_Kurt
01-18-2008, 1:08 PM
Maybe the shock of moving caused her to absorb the babies.

bella535
01-18-2008, 1:24 PM
i've had a tank for aprox 10 years. i think the water is fine.....i think it was the shock.....if it was i have no clue what to do about that......

Druu
01-18-2008, 1:49 PM
I find it better to let them give birth in the main tank- the babies will hide among the plants and gravel. You can then net those out and transfer them into the breeder net.

importracer
01-18-2008, 1:55 PM
i recently purchased a pair of guppy's to breed. i never had guppys before so i don't know much about them. i thought she was pregnant cuz her gravid spot was dark and big. i put her in the breeding piece and overnight her gravid spot became clear....she doesn't look preg to me anymore.....any help is appreciated.

Yeah buddy....Just fill your tank up with bushy plants and Hornwort....The fry will hide and eat the algea and other microbes that grow around the plant...I beleive Hornwort cost 99 cents a bundle...Get a bunch to fill the tank with....Leave a small swimming space in the front, so yo can see them from time to time....Leave the tank next to the window for sunlight....

bella535
01-18-2008, 3:18 PM
i have a bunch of rocks and plants, thats where the fry have been till now and i think ill just keep doing that. as for the guppy....the gravid spot is back! i'm really confused now. do all the females look like that?

Mystix212
01-18-2008, 4:55 PM
Guppies can store sperm from one spawn for up to 6 months. Even when she has just given birth to say, 50 fry, another brood is still developing. Once she has the 50 fry spawn, she'll continue to have the gravid spot untill the sperm 'runs out' so to speak.

Alistriwen
01-18-2008, 5:18 PM
The livebearer gravid spot is one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of livebearer reproduction. If you try to judge pregnancy and such from gravid spots you will not have a lot of success with these fish. I can tell when my guppies are a day from giving birth with almost 100% accuracy without even looking at their gravid spots.

A gravid spot develops in juvenile females whether or not they've been fertilized yet. This dark patch is actually a mass of orange eggs but due to the colouration of the guppy often appears black or brownish. The gravid spot changing colour therefore, is a result of a change in colour on the guppy's part not anything going on with her offspring. If a fish changes colour and it isnt breeding time, chances are you've stressed it. You said you'd had this guppy a day before tossing it in a net and if that's the case 100% you've over stressed that fish. A new tank is stress enough for a fish without being tossed into a tiny net right away.

Size isnt neccessarily an indicator of pregnancy either. Shape is more important than a female's overall size. Sometimes a fish is just fat because it has eaten a lot and when you stress it all that was inside comes out. Once they get back to eating normally the weight usually comes back. Absorbing fry is a very uncommon occurence, far more so than most would lead you to believe. Unfortunately, if this does occur your fish will not just carry on normally in all likelihood. A fish that has absorbed fry often has serious problems later, including an inability to reproduce.

bella535
01-19-2008, 5:10 PM
I appreciate your info but I didn’t say that I purchased her and the next day I put her in the breeding net. I did say that I’ve had tank for over ten years so I know what not to do to stress out fish. I’ve successfully bred molly's a number of times (I currently have some week old fry) I just said I’m new to guppies so I don’t know much about them and I’m trying to figure them out.

bella535
01-19-2008, 5:29 PM
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Alistriwen
01-19-2008, 9:56 PM
Yah she's at least a week from dropping if not more by the looks of her. As for the stress issue, it doesnt matter if she'd been in there a day a week or a month, if she was in a relatively new setting it's going to stress her to be moved to a new one again so soon. It stresses a fish out when you move them regardless. If the net was small then there's even more stress from being in a confined space unable to reach members of her species.

bella535
01-20-2008, 6:58 AM
ok thanx that actually helped me alot......... now i know somewhat whats going on with her. ill let u know when she has them.

Alistriwen
01-20-2008, 1:09 PM
No problem at all. If you need any more advice on guppies let me know, I've had thousands of them :).

bella535
02-12-2008, 8:15 AM
the guppy just had her babies.......finally! my red molly and white molly also just had their babies this week so we have a bunch of babies.

nikochan--
02-12-2008, 7:32 PM
lol i did that once.... her belly was HUGE! and the next day he had the fry :D

nikochan--
02-12-2008, 7:32 PM
congrats!

Cappuccino
02-18-2008, 11:21 AM
The livebearer gravid spot is one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of livebearer reproduction. If you try to judge pregnancy and such from gravid spots you will not have a lot of success with these fish. I can tell when my guppies are a day from giving birth with almost 100% accuracy without even looking at their gravid spots.

A gravid spot develops in juvenile females whether or not they've been fertilized yet. This dark patch is actually a mass of orange eggs but due to the colouration of the guppy often appears black or brownish. The gravid spot changing colour therefore, is a result of a change in colour on the guppy's part not anything going on with her offspring. If a fish changes colour and it isnt breeding time, chances are you've stressed it. You said you'd had this guppy a day before tossing it in a net and if that's the case 100% you've over stressed that fish. A new tank is stress enough for a fish without being tossed into a tiny net right away.

Size isnt neccessarily an indicator of pregnancy either. Shape is more important than a female's overall size. Sometimes a fish is just fat because it has eaten a lot and when you stress it all that was inside comes out. Once they get back to eating normally the weight usually comes back. Absorbing fry is a very uncommon occurence, far more so than most would lead you to believe. Unfortunately, if this does occur your fish will not just carry on normally in all likelihood. A fish that has absorbed fry often has serious problems later, including an inability to reproduce.

I agree 100% size and shape will indicate pregnacy or readiness to breed better than the gravid spot

Cappuccino
02-18-2008, 11:23 AM
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this female is not quite ready yet, but im sure you will know when she is.

ductTAPE
02-21-2008, 3:32 PM
i'm trying to breed guppies as well :D

Alistriwen
02-21-2008, 4:02 PM
Honestly, just because of the many different colours and shapes they come in, these will probably remain some of my favorite fish for all time.

beefcake44b
03-12-2008, 5:59 PM
I am brand new at the breeding and guppy game. Is it possible to grow the fancy guppies with the larger tails from normal guppies with proper feeding? Also if my pregnant female is stressed, can she still birth her fry or what will happen? I have her seperated from the males I have but am not sure if this was 100% necessary. please advise!

sharkslayer46
12-01-2008, 7:56 PM
the female rarely absorbs the unborn fry but depending on how big she was, how pregnant she was, and how mush you fed her. Like you said you nver had guppies before so maybe you didn't feed the guppy enough and overnight she had her babies and considered them a snack, it just depends

woofy
12-01-2008, 9:58 PM
i wouldnt put more males than females the females can be easily stressed or even nip at the males. If a guppy is extremely stressed she will abort her babies and just give birth to under developed eggs, this is why it is bst to understand how close ur guppy is to giving birth before puting her in a breeder trap, or taking her if nothing has happened. My method is always use java moss or other plants or hide grass for the fry. I feel i get just as many fry from leaving the mom in th tank with the moss and hide grass as i do with puting her in a net or breeder box.

AquaParadise2012
12-02-2008, 11:58 PM
...so i guess my femle guppy has been absorbing frys for quite a long time,now it makes sense.

jaw09
04-10-2011, 10:18 AM
I bought 3 female guppies from my local pet shop 4 days ago and as usual 2 are lightly pregnant and I have this one which I am not sure when it is going to pop so I was wonder if any body had a rough idea of how long she has left, she has been being acting like she would when heavy pregnant in terms of hiding and always staying away from my other guppies thank you :) link to picture of her below thanks...

http://s1105.photobucket.com/albums/h349/gupplover1995/?action=view&current=103_5024.jpg

I have posted this as a reply cause im new to the site and dont know how to post or thread :)

jaw09
04-10-2011, 10:23 AM
and by the way when you have more males than females the males can harass the females and eventually the females will die, but the rule is and inch of fish per gallon of tank water unless you are willing to do weekly 75% water changes treating the water afterwards for ammonia, nitrates, nitrites, pH and water hardness. The ideal rule for males to females with any live-bearers is 1 male to 3 females. JW.

muffywrx
04-10-2011, 11:22 AM
Jaw - to me, your female doesn't look that pregnant. She also looks very small. You may not have success for the first couple of births due to her size, simply because she will probably eat the babies. But maybe not. Look for her body to square out ... She may start swimming harder and not moving as much right before as well.

good luck!

jaw09
04-10-2011, 9:45 PM
thanks for that so how long would you say roughly and but she definatly is right first time keeping guppies :)

fwlionfish
04-10-2011, 9:57 PM
Not to sound like too much of a jerk but i had a guppy who i could have sworn was pregnat turns out she just had to poop. it happend to her alot.

muffywrx
04-10-2011, 10:10 PM
Not to sound like too much of a jerk but i had a guppy who i could have sworn was pregnat turns out she just had to poop. it happend to her alot.

X2

you will know more when she is ready if she starts to get bigger. Look for getting bigger, then look for gravid spot changes, and then look for squareness and lack of activity. She may get really hungry before/after .. but generally speaking she will stop moving around alot/start swimming harder in one spot.

It's pretty easy to tell. i say just observe behavior every day until she births, then you'll know how your guppies look. everyone has a different way of telling.

jaw09
04-12-2011, 1:33 PM
@muffywrx --- based on this video she has now become very boxed shaped because that picture was a week ago, she also has a very dark gravid spot.

link to video = http://www.youtube.com/user/GuppySpecialist?feature=mhum