Marine white spot

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

Please help me guys. My beloved Volitan has come down with this dreaded Marine disease and I don't know what to do. I dumped him in this antibiotic ich/ freshwater serum that I can make, and it usaully works on every other disease I've encountered but not this one. This is the third day that there have been any visible symptons and I am desperate and willing to do anything to help it survive. Its getting worse and I am running out of time.

[Fish_are_fishfood]

I don't know if this will help, I never encoutered this diease, but here's what I got from my book...

"Isolate and treat with a commercial remdey. Continue treatment for at least a week after the fish appears to have recovered and to reduce the likelihood of return outbreaks. Ultraviolet steralization can help to curb the spread of the parasites. Watch out for secondary fungal and bacterial infections."

Encyclopedia of Aquarium & Pond Fish
David Alderton

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

I own the same book and I've done that , but none of it works.

[Ornatapinnis]

Do a water change and vacuum the gravel bed real well. Lower you S.G. to about 1.015 or so and treat the aquarium with copper like Cupramine from Seachem for about 14 days. Use a copper test kit to test the copper value and maintain it at about .20 to no higher than .25. THis will fix the problem if you catch it early enough.

Joel

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

Do a water change and vacuum the gravel bed real well. Lower you S.G. to about 1.015 or so and treat the aquarium with copper like Cupramine from Seachem for about 14 days. Use a copper test kit to test the copper value and maintain it at about .20 to no higher than .25. THis will fix the problem if you catch it early enough.

Joel

Gee sounds a little extreme what will it do to the other fish.

[guppy]

I saw that copper and hyposalinity treatment in a couple books, they mentioned that it will kill some sharks and cannot be used where inverts are present.

[eng55]

Have you been adding garlic to his food. Is supposed to boost the immune system. That is what I did to cure my blue hippo of ich. Dont know if it would work for this but it may help prevent future break outs.
Good luck
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[Ornatapinnis]

It is not extreme, pretty common practise. Guppy is correct that copper will kill most inverts (hermit crabs will be ok with it) but corals , anemone's and such will not live in copper treated water. Sharks and rays don't tolerate copper treatments either. Most, if not all other fish will be fine. When done, perform another water change and put fresh carbon in you filter to remove the residule copper from your water.

There is nothing out of the ordanary about this type of treatment on saltwater fish. I have done this type of treatment on my shop and my customers aquariums with excellent results for many years. Hurry though, it's tough to fix if it has gone on for to long before it gets treated.

Joel

[K.O.D]

If you ever want to keep inverts, corals anemones etc then dont treat with copper, even in tiny doses it will harm and eventually kill them
Ich is difficult to kill whilst it is in the cyst stage ( visible white spots ) so a dip will be pretty much useless.
In our reef tank we have had quite a bit of success using garlic and lowering the SG and also the addition of a UV steriliser will help kill the free swimming parasites.
In a fish only system as Joel has quite rightly put copper is the best remedy but leaves you screwed if you ever want to change to reefkeeping, EsHA do a supposed reef friendly ich cure and wide spectrum bactericide ( the holes left in the fish when the spores burst allows infection in ) but have not heard how effective they are.

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

Day 2 of extensive treatment. This is what I am doin, Ive moved everyone out except the lion and I have the UV action goin and The Lionfish is looking better. thhe white spots are beginning to disapear, but his fins are getting raggity. I don't know if thats the disease or what Ive never delt with this before. Waiting on the hyposalanity method. Also I have replaced the carbon.

[MaJiKTeRRoR]

Now would be a good time to invest in a quarantine tank. How long did you have your lion before the spots started to appear?

[Zoodiver]

Best treatments are a lower salinity and a copper dose. I've done it hundreds of times on larger marine fish.

Post reatment start looking into the garlic food additive and UV.

You mentioned you had UV going. What is the size/flow rate?

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

A year
Just added a green wolf eel which is fine but he must of carried the disease in.
He still is sitting on the bottom of the tank but the white spots are disappearing.

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

:footinmou I was quoting terror.

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

[QUOTE=Zoodiver]Best treatments are a lower salinity and a copper dose. I've done it hundreds of times on larger marine fish.

Post reatment start looking into the garlic food additive and UV.

You mentioned you had UV going. What is the size/flow rate?[/QU

Are you talking about wattage? if so its 200nm If filtration I have to ginormous penguin 400 power filters one Magnum 350and a nice size protein skimmer.

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

Okay new development looked better a half hour ago, until I go in and check on him again and see three of his front right fins floating in the waster so dont know if hes better or not.

[AquaticAggression]

There are a few products to use for this made by tropical science Marine Max as a on going prevented & X-tinguisher.

[Mattcomptonassvanhorn]

There are a few products to use for this made by tropical science Marine Max as a on going prevented & X-tinguisher.

Where would I get these?

[tjaystone]

please ..... help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have a wolf eel in my 200 gallon marine set up my wolf eel is about 8 inches .... i 've had him for about 6 months now for ( 3 ) days he has not eaten silver sides , krill ,, nothing ..... he has a large spot about 1 and 1/2 inches long in the middle of his body a very light green color ... and has heavy breathing .........please any suggestions will be very helpful also do u think this will affect the other fish in my tank ...... help

[Kdcarey]

well ur screwed by now