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puffer_girl
01-10-2006, 11:27 AM
Got you to look!!! (figured it would work after looking through the 9 pages of replies to the new girl yesterday!!!) Ok, want to get a Fahaka puffer. I know that some of you have them and would like to get some info.

How quickly do they grow? Have a 45 gal empty and wondering how long this size would be adequite before having to upgrade if I purchase one at 2 inches....

At monster size is a 100 gal big enough or what size would be ideal?

Also, I understand that these puffers do NOT like ANY salt... Is this true? I usually put a little salt in all my tanks and want to be certain that this is a no no......

The more input the better because I'm hoping to do this in the next week!!!!

Thanks!!!

Wondering if I post my pic if I'll get more responses........

Miles
01-10-2006, 11:36 AM
Might get more thorough information just asking about Fahakas ;)

These lil buggers grew fast.. I thought my 2"er would be fine in a 55g for quite some time.. I think he outgrew it in about 4-5 months.

The reccomended minimum tanksize for these guys would be a 120g wide (48x24x24"), due to their larger adult size they need alot of space to turn comfortably. Please don't get fooled by your LFS telling you a 90g or a 100g long (60x18") will work, because the turning space is inadequate and it will stress your puffer out.. They really should have a 24" deep tank.

I put plain water softening salt in with my Fahaka from time to time, usually when I am doing all the other tanks. I don't do heavy dosages, and hes never reacted to it.. I believe others might of given you that word of advice as a precautionary measure, as most people are very puffer-ignorant and some even believe that ALL puffers are brackish or saltwater in someway, when a Fahaka puffer is completely freshwater. I had a PetCo guy try to tell me this once, so don't listen to everything the LFS tells you! As far as the salt, Freshwater Stingrays are completely freshwater, and they do fine with a bit of aquarium salt ;) I also used salt on my fahaka when it was small to battle a mild case of Ich!

puffer_girl
01-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Thanks!!! If they grow that fast maybe I should purchase a large tank first..... Figured when little a smaller tank is better cause it's easier to clean and then gradually upgrade as needed.

Ash
01-10-2006, 12:00 PM
Got you to look!!! (figured it would work after looking through the 9 pages of replies to the new girl yesterday!!!) Ok, want to get a Fahaka puffer. I know that some of you have them and would like to get some info.

How quickly do they grow? Have a 45 gal empty and wondering how long this size would be adequite before having to upgrade if I purchase one at 2 inches....

At monster size is a 100 gal big enough or what size would be ideal?

Also, I understand that these puffers do NOT like ANY salt... Is this true? I usually put a little salt in all my tanks and want to be certain that this is a no no......

The more input the better because I'm hoping to do this in the next week!!!!

Thanks!!!

Wondering if I post my pic if I'll get more responses........
try it... lol go to the introuduce yourself lounge and then members photos and post up your pictures.... Ne who I dont know anything about those puffers >__> sorry.

riggs
01-10-2006, 3:02 PM
title got me in here.....

stotty
01-10-2006, 3:17 PM
The Fahaka Puffer, also known as the Nile Puffer or Band Puffer, comes from the freshwater lakes and rivers of Africa and can grow to a very large size. The Fahaka is brownish-gray on the back fading to an off-white on the underbelly, with a series of lighter horizontal stripes running from the tail to the pectoral fin.

The Fahaka requires a very large aquarium with tank mates of similar size and disposition. Many plants and rocks should be included in the setup providing the Puffer with plenty of hiding places.

The Fahaka has not been successfully tank bred and little is known about their breeding habits. It is known that, in the wild, they spawn in very deep water.

Their diet should consist mainly of crustaceans such as brine shrimp, krill, mollusks, and earthworms.

Ideal tank mates include:

Puffers
South American Dwarf Cichlids (such as Rams and Apistogrammas)
African Cichlids of similar size
Plecos
Loaches
Catfish
Other fish of similar temperament and size




Right now i have sorted that where is the Picture : :drool: :ROFL:

guppy
01-10-2006, 3:36 PM
She is teasing the fish heads! :ROFL:

puffer_girl
01-10-2006, 4:43 PM
You guys are too much!!! Thanks for the advice though!!! Maybe one of these days...... Keep everyone in suspense......

downset21
01-10-2006, 5:29 PM
I have a pic of myself on this site... and nobody was impressed... instead I meet people face to face, it seems like a better idea... until I remember my girlfriend... jk, some day I think I'd like a puffer. The fahaka ones seem popular as far as this site goes. I see mini puffers for sale and wonder if they really stay tiny. any ideas on that? I'd put them in a 10 gal.

downset21
01-10-2006, 5:32 PM
and I admit... I looked in here thinkin there was a picture of a fully clothed girl, and in retrospect, I dont know why it would interest me to see a picture of that when I could just look in a magazine or look at a real live one on my left... that's how bad guys are, and I'm no exception, and I love it. I bet this post gets hit up 100 times today, because a real live girl posted a pic in a forum... or so it seems. sounds pathetic when you think about it. and I'm sure if anybody did this again tomorrow, I'd look.

puffer_girl
01-10-2006, 5:35 PM
Dwarf puffers stay small. I have a palembangensis which gets to be roughly 8 inches from what I understand. I was told when I bought him he was full grown and he's more than doubled!!! Green Spotted Puffers are terribly cute and I believe they max out at 4 inches, although I've never seen one that big. Red-eyes I think are only suppose to get around 2 1/2-3 inches, but you have to be careful because that was what my puffer was sold as!!!

guppy
01-10-2006, 5:51 PM
I am not a fan of puffers myself but this has come up before so here is what I have found out about the Pygmy or Dwarf puffers. All of the six species of the genus Carinotetradaodon are true freshwater species. All are sold, usually as Indian, Malabar, Gold, or Dwarf puffers. A 10G tank or even a 5G is plenty big.
The largest is the Red-eyed puffer (C. loreti) which gets to 2 1/2". (pic by Nonn Panitvong).
The smallest, and most commonly sold, is the Malabar puffer (C. travancoricus) which only gets to 1 1/2". (pic by Ott, G.). All of them are fin nippers.
The lower pic is the Red-eyed puffer.

M|L
01-10-2006, 6:05 PM
:idea: so...... where's your pic? :naughty:

downset21
01-10-2006, 6:17 PM
that red eye puffer looks great... I'll set up a 10 gal. puffer tank I think.

puffer_girl
01-10-2006, 6:29 PM
I'd go for it. I like them a lot all though that is my personal opinion. They take no prosoners when it comes to eating..... Matter of fact, I have to be careful how much I feed mine cause I honestly think he'd eat till he blew up.....

downset21
01-10-2006, 11:01 PM
It's done, and my girlfriend is already givin me **** about it. I'm bringin my 10 gal. home from work. Can you post pics of your puffer tanks to show me what kind of setups you make?

puffer_girl
01-10-2006, 11:16 PM
Yeah definitely. Actually have a pic in my profile. Only one picture (of whole tank) and it was taken last week after I put the sand in.

puffer_girl
01-10-2006, 11:18 PM
Supposedly sand is better for them because they suck when they eat and may take in gravel. I must warn you though....... The sand isn't fun to clean!!!! For a 10 gal your all right though!!!! :thumbsup:

downset21
01-11-2006, 4:22 PM
I planned on using sand because I never had before, and figured with a 10 gal. tank it could be a pretty good way to learn. I have no idea how to get it prepped, and how to do regular cleanings with it. Also, I'm curious as to what kind of filter I should get for it.

puffer_girl
01-11-2006, 4:32 PM
I'm just using a normal filter. The sand does get sucked out when you clean but because it is so fine I focus on just skimming the top..... It's not like the gravel where particles work there way down. I know that with puffers you don't want them to take in air so unlike my other tanks I don't have undergravel filters or heavy filtration. Just regular maintainence which should be easy in a 10 gal. Keep in mind though that I'm learning as I go..... Despite my log-in name I'm not an expert....YET!!!! :)

downset21
01-11-2006, 4:44 PM
puffergirl, I'm going to be learning as I go with this little project, so I'm gonna need all the help you can give. I wont even ask for a picture in return. Next week I am going to buy the sand. I saw a post concerning sand so if I find it I'm gonna follow their instructions. Anybody know where I can get that nice green puffer with the red eyes up above on this page?

puffer_girl
01-11-2006, 4:49 PM
Posted a pic of myself today actually..... It's floating around here somewhere. The most common puffers you will find are green-spotted, crazy eights, and dwarf puffers. Next after that are the red eyes. My fish store I always go to have red-eyes come in about once a month. They usually know in advance what will be coming in.

downset21
01-11-2006, 5:13 PM
I was just kidding about the picture... but I did look just because it's cool to see who you're talking too. very cute... :-) work on becoming a puffer master so that I can get some guidance.

puffer_girl
01-11-2006, 5:37 PM
Working on it..... Will keep you posted as I obtain all knowledge necessary to be a puffer master..... :)

guppy
01-11-2006, 7:37 PM
Supposedly sand is better for them because they suck when they eat and may take in gravel. I must warn you though....... The sand isn't fun to clean!!!! For a 10 gal your all right though!!!! :thumbsup:
I found a couple places that usually have them or the other dwarf redeye (C. irrubesco) that gets to 2" (those go for $9.30 ea.) and are easily sexed as the males and females are differently colored. They are known to spawn in tanks as small as 5g. Both places are currently out of stock but carry them as a regular item so you should not have too long a wait.They are www.aquariumfish.net and www.fish2u.com. the price and these pics of male and female irrubesco are from the latter site. (the darker one is the male)
I might have to try a pair of these myself.

puffer_girl
01-11-2006, 7:45 PM
Saw mine online being sold for around $50 and got mine for $8 at my lfs. It was being sold as a red-eye and after I did my research I tried talking to the manager and he STILL insisted that mine is a red-eye.... He told me that they are getting in some more "red-eyes" on the 20th so I'm definitely going to go check them out.... Anyone in the Cleveland area interested let me know and I'll keep you posted!!!

eh1421
01-11-2006, 8:14 PM
tease

guppy
01-12-2006, 12:07 AM
Oh, check with ornatapinnis, not long ago he was getting these little guys.

puffer_girl
01-12-2006, 12:13 AM
Thanks!!! Get that downset?! Assuming he means the red-eyes. Really hope you get one with a good personality!!!!!

downset21
01-12-2006, 1:02 AM
I gotta find them online, my guy doesnt sell them, and the last thing I got from a chain store, my green terror, is not lookin healthy. I want a puffer with charisma. so I agree.

puffer_girl
01-12-2006, 1:05 AM
You definitely want a red-eye?

downset21
01-12-2006, 1:12 AM
not particularly, I'm open to any and all suggestions, and as usual, guppy is a guru. Whatever I get, it's goin in a 10 gal. tank. So my options have to be limited.

puffer_girl
01-12-2006, 1:15 AM
Yeah, guppy seems to be good!!! Would trust his advice on about anything. Just that I had a green spotted and although they are more common they definitely have good personalities. Very friendly and get happy to see you.

downset21
01-12-2006, 1:16 AM
I will obviously take your advice as well seeing as you have more experience with them. this is next week's project, as soon as I get paid.

puffer_girl
01-12-2006, 1:20 AM
Mine even changed colors when he saw me.... HIs belly would turn white and his top would turn a bright green. Good luck on this!!!!

shoefreak03
01-12-2006, 1:43 AM
alrite guppy, no more advise until we see pic of puffer_girl!!! :naughty:

limz_777
01-12-2006, 5:02 AM
:screwy: where is the pics?

guppy
01-12-2006, 4:18 PM
Hey you two horndogs, her picture is in the "members pics" section of the introductions forum, cute too!

DeLgAdO
01-12-2006, 4:31 PM
Hey you two horndogs, her picture is in the "members pics" section of the introductions forum, cute too!

LOL!!!

lce68
02-05-2008, 6:32 PM
Hi!!! I'm new to MFK and I love it! Will update more info about me and get a pic on here asap. My hubby has won POTM twice now! I am very proud of him and how he keeps all of our fish happy and healthy! Looking at our fish in our 180 in the bedroom helps me to relax, it's so awesome to watch the fish and how they interact with eachother! Talk later!

~~~Laura~~~

DRiViNByINsAniTY
02-05-2008, 6:36 PM
im new and just loOkn rOund

Pufferpunk
02-07-2008, 2:38 AM
Here's my smiling 12" fahaka & his 125g tank. I do not recomend tanks mates for these fiah as they have been known to bite plecos 2x their size in half!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Pufferpunk/Pufferpics/FahakaSmile.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Pufferpunk/Pufferpics/125Fahakatanknewlydecorated.jpg

phuture1
01-11-2009, 8:06 PM
hey folks. just wanted to take this oppertunity to say hi. i am new to this site and hope that i can learn a few things and possibly help some folks out in some minute capacity. i look foreward to getting to know you guys.

Guy.

le patron
01-11-2009, 8:07 PM
title got me in here.....
:ROFL: same here

dark_knights_99
01-11-2009, 11:24 PM
hey folks. just wanted to take this oppertunity to say hi. i am new to this site and hope that i can learn a few things and possibly help some folks out in some minute capacity. i look foreward to getting to know you guys.

Guy.

Well, don't hesitate to ask around. There are a lot of fish keepers here in thier own masteries of species. You'll learn a lot here.By the way, welcome to MFK!

Bottomfeeder
01-17-2009, 1:08 PM
lmao...over 1000 views... :ROFL:

sexypuffer
02-06-2009, 10:51 AM
I am female an I thought if this chick posts herself , then i would also but I havn't seen a pic yet ? :popcorn:Come on lets do it . :nilly: