210 tanganyikan tank - start to finish

[addicted2cichlids]

whats goin down yall! well i recently picked up a 210 gallon (84x24x25) drilled for 2 outs and 1 in for a "closed loop system" . for the most part ill have tanganyikans "piscivores" housed in the tank. this threads gonna be from start to finish. next im gonna get the parts for the plumbing, add aquascape, and then transfer the tangs and add some new ones as well! tryin to get a natural look goin on.... as i go ill post pics on where im at with the setup. enjoy and thanks for watchin!

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[repsol46]

awesome.,

[cichlidgirl]

Wow is that nice. Bring it on over to my house LOL

[AMG]

Nice tank, looking forward to seeing the updates.

[vildotcom]

gonna look sweet for sure.

[haynchinook334]

nice set up so far!!!

[Muske]

:headbang2











:popcorn:

[mike dunagan]

great start!

[fsc46]

Great! Did you create a stock list?

[addicted2cichlids]

Great! Did you create a stock list?

yup, got 9 burundi fronts. when they get big enough to vent ill break the group down to 1 male and 4 females if what i got now allows me to. 2 boulengerochromis microlepis which ill growout and donate to a local aquarium or rehome to a tank big enough to house for the rest of their lives. im going to add 1 or 2 lepidolamprologus kendalli, 1 or 2 lamprologus lemairii. 2 or 3 neolamprologus tetracanthus and 2 lepidolamprologus cunnuntoni. and that should do it.

[Ash]

That is an awesome looking tank I cant wait to see it when its done =]

[hamato_yoshii]

Beautiful tank! I look forward to seeing this take shape!

[mike dunagan]

wow sounds like a lot.

[JamesRiggs]

I SO want your Microlepis!!!!!! Nice tank!

[Arturo]

SWEEEEEEEET!!!! :headbang2

[fsc46]

yup, got 9 burundi fronts. when they get big enough to vent ill break the group down to 1 male and 4 females if what i got now allows me to. 2 boulengerochromis microlepis which ill growout and donate to a local aquarium or rehome to a tank big enough to house for the rest of their lives. im going to add 1 or 2 lepidolamprologus kendalli, 1 or 2 lamprologus lemairii. 2 or 3 neolamprologus tetracanthus and 2 lepidolamprologus cunnuntoni. and that should do it.

Sounds good to me. One thing I would do is add a few more fronts if you want to end up with 4 females. If you end up with more than 4 females you can trade them on MFK and get a lot in return for them. :headbang2

Can't wait to see your tank progress!

[addicted2cichlids]

good afternoon my fellow tanganyikans! sure is a hot one in cali today! anyways i got back from my lfs, homedepot, and pool supply spot and got all that i need to get this tanganyikan tank up and runnin. i was gonna hit up my local rock spot but i figure ill do it another day! so lets go on with this thread! here are the parts that ill be using...

(2) 1 and 1/2 inch returns. the centers can be pointed which ever way i like....
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture107.jpg


1 and 1/2 inch intake with strainer...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture106.jpg


(3) 1 and 1/2 to 1 inch reducers...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture109.jpg


(2) 1 inch barbed fittings and a 1 inch "T"...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture110.jpg


1 and 1/4 inch vinyl tube at 2 ft. with 4 stainless steel clamps...
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(2) 1 inch threaded to slip coupling with some plumbers glue...
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(3) 50lb. bags of 20 grade pool filter sand...
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hacksaw and mitre box. to cut the 2 1 inch x 10ft pvc pipes...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture122-1.jpg

the final piece that makes this system work. some may say its not enough filtration but i fell itll work just fine along with my weekly water changes and my bi-weekly vacuums...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture123-1.jpg

and daddys little helper. star, my rat terrier. shell be a year next month!...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture118.jpg
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now im gonna go put in work! :headbang2 ill check in later! deuce!

[addicted2cichlids]

alright so i got all the plumbing setup now...

i replaced the stock hose (the hose that comes with the unit) with this vinyl tube cut into 2 1 footers.
i clamped both ends of the vinyl tube. the pic only shows the bottom part.
it was kind of tough gettin those barbed fittings all the way in...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture127.jpg
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i directed one bulkhead at a downward slant and the other bulkhead at a upward slant all toward the intake.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture129.jpg
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heres the intake strainer. i wanted a flush mount but couldnt find one and the only option was to special order but then i thought that this would be a better decision since you can say it "grabs" more debris and water.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture130.jpg

i bought 2 1 inch x 10ft. pvc pipes just in case but only needed 1 and heres the outcome of my "closed loop system"...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture136.jpg
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stay tuned cuz i still gotta add water, sand, rocks, and of course my tangs!:headbang2 thanks for all the comments! others dont understand and call me crazy but it feels great to come to a spot where others like myself share the love for africans!... africa bambata and the soooouuuul sonic force! just thought id bring it back to the electric funk and freestyle days! hahahahah!

[slowef]

Cant wait! can we get a price list??

[addicted2cichlids]

Cant wait! can we get a price list??

at homedepot it came out to $38.98 with the items i needed i also got a tape measure too.
at my lfs the strainer was $4.99 + tax. the pool filter sand came out to $30 and some change.
dont know if this helps!

[johnuskglass]

I'm predicting the rat terrier to be key to the projects survival...
Great looking tank, can't wait to see it when it's all done.

[AMG]

The tank is coming together nicely.

[Taz2478]

looks nice.

only thing is the Micros with the smaller fish.

[mike dunagan]

I know you say that is enough, but you are not going the route of overstocked then? Many on this site are big on what others call overstocked, this maybe why it seem like it is not enough.

[addicted2cichlids]

I know you say that is enough, but you are not going the route of overstocked then? Many on this site are big on what others call overstocked, this maybe why it seem like it is not enough.

and your right mr. dunagan! thanks for pointing it out! a man who pays attention to detail!

[xaznkewlguyx]

looks like a sweeet setup

[addicted2cichlids]

so last night i filled it up just a little above the strainer to check for leaks and it turned out fine. pretty good for my first time.
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[addicted2cichlids]

water tight.
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[addicted2cichlids]

so late into the morning i decided to start on the pool filter sand. for those who havent done the sand cleaning thing before it might seem like a hassle and never ending. well instead of filling the bucket all the way up with pool filter sand and cleaning it try doing 1 3rd of the bag or even break it down to 1 4th of the bag. youll see its really quick to clean. this is just one bag before i decided to call it a night. ill get the 2 other bags of pool filter sand in today.
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[mike dunagan]

Looking good so far. How much does the filter turn over?

[addicted2cichlids]

Looking good so far. How much does the filter turn over?

come on mike, you dont know? what is it, tell me.

anyways, i got one more bag left to clean....

[mike dunagan]

Well I use sumps on all of my large tanks and am not much a canister fan, so no I can not tell you.

[addicted2cichlids]

Well I use sumps on all of my large tanks and am not much a canister fan, so no I can not tell you.

well its rated at 563 g/h without media (weird huh). i have bio-max in all 3 trays but i dont think its much less from 563 g/h. the pump output is 925 g/h...

[addicted2cichlids]

so i got the 3rd bag of pool filter sand in. water conditioned and i got the canister running too. still kind of cloudy. the sand just has to settle and then i can even out the sand. the sand is 1 1/2-2" deep. gotta give the tangs some play! i still gotta mount my visi-therm stealth heaters and get more lava rocks and put them in. this week im gonna start the cycle with some bb from my other tank and lots of gold fish and possibly cycle for 2-3 weeks just to be safe.

[jcardona1]

Nice setup, i like the way you did the FX5. Is the FX5 going under the cabinet or will it stay behind the stand?? BTW, just finished my 210, check out my threads!

[addicted2cichlids]

Nice setup, i like the way you did the FX5. Is the FX5 going under the cabinet or will it stay behind the stand?? BTW, just finished my 210, check out my threads!

thanks man! you as well. yeah ive been following your thread and its clean!
i planned it out to have the fx5 under the tank but it worked out to just leave it behind the stand.

[Taz2478]

def glad no leaks with carpet.

any rocks or wood?

[johnny_1993]

FS- "BRAND NEW" AGA brand, 210 gallon w/ stand. has a tiny/small imperfection on glass. asking $450. .

whats going on are you selling it already????

[fsc46]

so i got the 3rd bag of pool filter sand in. water conditioned and i got the canister running too. still kind of cloudy. the sand just has to settle and then i can even out the sand. the sand is 1 1/2-2" deep. gotta give the tangs some play! i still gotta mount my visi-therm stealth heaters and get more lava rocks and put them in. this week im gonna start the cycle with some bb from my other tank and lots of gold fish and possibly cycle for 2-3 weeks just to be safe.

Just an idea, it might be better to turn the filter off and do water changes to remove the cloudiness. The sand grit can wear down your impeller and create a lot of noise.

You can even plumb the lower bulkhead to drain the cloudy water and connect another hose from the tap to one of the return bulkheads. :headbang2

When the water is clear, reconnect your (cleaned) fx5. Add water conditioner, turn the canister filter on.

[mike dunagan]

no pics updating?

[addicted2cichlids]

def glad no leaks with carpet.

any rocks or wood?

i mos def glad no leaks! but for the rocks, im gonna be puttin some lava rocks in. ill hit up my local rock spot this friday when im off and dig thru their rock piles to get some good lava rock forms!

[addicted2cichlids]

whats going on are you selling it already????

nah, thats another 210 i just got. its a 72x24x29 and the one i have setup is a 84x24x25.

[addicted2cichlids]

Just an idea, it might be better to turn the filter off and do water changes to remove the cloudiness. The sand grit can wear down your impeller and create a lot of noise.

You can even plumb the lower bulkhead to drain the cloudy water and connect another hose from the tap to one of the return bulkheads. :headbang2

When the water is clear, reconnect your (cleaned) fx5. Add water conditioner, turn the canister filter on.

thanks man but im good! its pool filter sand and is heavy and not floatin around but i do know what your talkin bout. its gonna be fine.

[addicted2cichlids]

alright, so i got the sand some what leveled out and it turns out to be
2-21/2" deep and not what i said before. i got the gold fish in and the gold fish are lovin it. not used to free space to swim about. the waters clearing up good and ill have the rocks, heaters, and probably some fake plants (not sure which ones i want to put in yet. add some green to color it up a little) by the end of this coming weekend.
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[mike dunagan]

Nice thanks for getting the pic in too!

[fsc46]

WOW! How much did the pool filter sand cost? It looks great! I could have saved a ton of money. :eek::nilly:

[addicted2cichlids]

Nice thanks for getting the pic in too!

its all good mike! its for the movement!

[addicted2cichlids]

WOW! How much did the pool filter sand cost? It looks great! I could have saved a ton of money. :eek::nilly:

thanks! the bags were $9.99 per 50lb bag. what did you spend so much on?

[LBathory]

thats hot.

[addicted2cichlids]

thats hot.

drop it like its hot, drop it like its hot! when the pigs try to get at you. park it like its hot!

thanks!

[cichlids _killer]

is that tank 84x24x25 from AGA too? thats a badass size

[Sic_Maggot13]

hey addicted...where you at aquatic warehouse on saturday? and did someone in a blue shirt with long hair talk to you? haha just wondering

[addicted2cichlids]

hey addicted...where you at aquatic warehouse on saturday? and did someone in a blue shirt with long hair talk to you? haha just wondering

hahaha! thats you! wheres the hookup man! how come you never said you worked at aquatic man? :irked: ... tell sam were gonna expand the "african section".... no justice! no peace!

[addicted2cichlids]

is that tank 84x24x25 from AGA too? thats a badass size

yuppers! but the one thats setup is a visio. advance aqua tanks makes them in los angeles.

[addicted2cichlids]

oh yeah sickmaggot13, thanks for helping me out!

[Sic_Maggot13]

hahaha! thats you! wheres the hookup man! how come you never said you worked at aquatic man? :irked: ... tell sam were gonna expand the "african section".... no justice! no peace!

lmao, i havent worked there that long thats why. they wanted me there because no one but sam knows anything about freshwater and i will eventually talk him into more africans after i start convincing more people to buy them :D what fish do you want? i will check some prices or i can order some fish.

and i didn't really help out i just get excited when people who like africans come in, thanks for wasting my time at work hahahah

[addicted2cichlids]

lmao, i havent worked there that long thats why. they wanted me there because no one but sam knows anything about freshwater and i will eventually talk him into more africans after i start convincing more people to buy them :D what fish do you want? i will check some prices or i can order some fish.

and i didn't really help out i just get excited when people who like africans come in, thanks for wasting my time at work hahahah

i see. ill let you know what fish come to mind! are we talkin wholesale or markup if i were to go thru you? good lookin out though. shoot, if sams lookin for another african person hit me up! hahahaha, i was wasting your time more like helping you past time!

[fsc46]

thanks! the bags were $9.99 per 50lb bag. what did you spend so much on?

I paid $20 for each 30lb bag of Aragamax™ Sugar Sized Sand. $10 for a 50lb bag is way cheaper is still looks great IMO.

[Lorinser925]

Very nice setup.

[hamato_yoshii]

Tank looks sweet, I really like the "closed loop" systems...

[ethnics]

i don't know why it took so long for me to see this.

your tank is hot ant! and super heavy haha. gettin it moved from the store to ur spot was a lil mission but was a fun one. gettin to see it sit in its spot of glory was well worth the mission. oh and the bbq and beer topped it off as well. that setup is sweet and should be way more then enough. keep it up dude, your setup is way clean. did that part in the corner all level out after you filled it?

[addicted2cichlids]

I paid $20 for each 30lb bag of Aragamax™ Sugar Sized Sand. $10 for a 50lb bag is way cheaper is still looks great IMO.

im sure the aragamax looks good though. shoots, im on a budget :headbang2pool filter sand all the way man!

[addicted2cichlids]

Very nice setup.

thanks! welcome to mfk!... gas, break, dip :headbang2

[addicted2cichlids]

Tank looks sweet, I really like the "closed loop" systems...

thanks man! i like it too. got the idea from saltwater setups that ive seen around!

[addicted2cichlids]

i don't know why it took so long for me to see this.

your tank is hot ant! and super heavy haha. gettin it moved from the store to ur spot was a lil mission but was a fun one. gettin to see it sit in its spot of glory was well worth the mission. oh and the bbq and beer topped it off as well. that setup is sweet and should be way more then enough. keep it up dude, your setup is way clean. did that part in the corner all level out after you filled it?

whats goin down kirk! yeah it was a mission. i swear my lowprofile tires were gon pop man! my face was stuck like this :eek: but its all payin off though, cant wait till its all situated :headbang2 thanks again for dippin thru and helpin a homie out. that tank was HEAVY! i have to agree that the bbq, stalkin my neighbors, blackjack, and beer topped it off but i wish we had more meat! wasnt really prepared, next time well have a real bbq! and yeah, the stand is cool now!

[addicted2cichlids]

so now its 2 days into the cycling and the water has pretty much cleared up but its not crystal clear yet. well heres the update pic...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture.jpg

[Sic_Maggot13]

so now its 2 days into the cycling and the water has pretty much cleared up but its not crystal clear yet. well heres the update pic...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture.jpg

why didn't you just get some of that bacteria in a bottle we sell? under 10 bucks, treats 300 gallons and allows you to have fish in there in 20 minutes :D looks good though! what kind of lights are going to be on it?

[addicted2cichlids]

why didn't you just get some of that bacteria in a bottle we sell? under 10 bucks, treats 300 gallons and allows you to have fish in there in 20 minutes :D looks good though! what kind of lights are going to be on it?

not that i dont mind your recommendations but bacteria in a bottle sounds like a scam (you tryin to steal my money! damn you aquatic! jk). why not just overdose the tank :headbang2and add your own bb from current tanks. thats what i did. i just threw in my crayfish and hybrid yellowlab/zebra in last night and theyre fine. but for lights just straight flourescent bulbs, hagen sun-glo. i borrowed the light from my other tank to take a pic. im not sure if i want to use the 2 light fixtures that came with the tank for a lit up/bright look or 1 light fixture where it lights up the middle and the sides are dark. im leanin towards the 1 light fixture in the middle for a settle look. well see....

[Sic_Maggot13]

not that i dont mind your recommendations but bacteria in a bottle sounds like a scam (you tryin to steal my money! damn you aquatic! jk). why not just overdose the tank :headbang2and add your own bb from current tanks. thats what i did. i just threw in my crayfish and hybrid yellowlab/zebra in last night and theyre fine. but for lights just straight flourescent bulbs, hagen sun-glo. i borrowed the light from my other tank to take a pic. im not sure if i want to use the 2 light fixtures that came with the tank for a lit up/bright look or 1 light fixture where it lights up the middle and the sides are dark. im leanin towards the 1 light fixture in the middle for a settle look. well see....

lmao no thats not what im trying to do, but im sure you didn't want to look at goldfish for a week...well i know i dont! :P and yeah thats what what do just putting bacteria from another tank but i wasn't sure if you had another, i dont at the moment because i sold it to have money for this tank :( lights should look good too. if you can do two 3 foot lights! especially how deep that tank is

[TheFanatic]

I generally take a new filter that is going on the new tank and put it on an established tank for a week or two. Then I set up the new tank I take water out of an established tank and fill it at least half way. Fill it the rest with treated tap water, throw on the filter, and instant cycled tank....

[NewETown]

That's exactly what I do fanatic, and i can throw fish (hardy ones at least) into a tank that's 3-4 days old. The only caution I'd take when doing that is if you have a problem with parasites or something in the tank you're using.

[Sic_Maggot13]

yeah i have done that but dont have a tank at the moment, so i just get the bacteria in a bottle and put fish in 20 minutes later :D

[addicted2cichlids]

yup, got 9 burundi fronts. when they get big enough to vent ill break the group down to 1 male and 4 females if what i got now allows me to. 2 boulengerochromis microlepis which ill growout and donate to a local aquarium or rehome to a tank big enough to house for the rest of their lives. im going to add 1 or 2 lepidolamprologus kendalli, 1 or 2 lamprologus lemairii. 2 or 3 neolamprologus tetracanthus and 2 lepidolamprologus cunnuntoni. and that should do it.

alright, so i ordered some of my stocklist and offlist the other day and today i go to follow up with the order thats being shipped tomorrow to my airport.... i ordered 2 lepidiolamprologus kendalli (nkambae bay) , 4 lamprologus lemairii, 3 neolamprologus tetracanthus, 3 sexfasciatus golds, 3 julidochromis dickfeldi, 1 golden nugget, and 1 king tiger pleco... i call the vendor up and he goes i was about to call you! i have some bad news! the lemairii and tetracanthus have all died! (im like wtf in my head) i say :eek: are you serious. he goes yeah and its weird cuz they were housed with other fish and theyre still alive! i call BS. anyways he goes on to say that he'd recommend i just replace them with some king tiger plecos because i originally wanted 3 and when i did the order he told me he only had 1 king tiger pleco and that he just noticed he had more than 1 now. doesnt this sound like BS. how do you not know your own stock:irked: moving along, so im bummed cuz i wanted the lemairii's due to their rarety in the hobby and the tetracanthus... so i ended up with 3 kendalli, 3 sexfasciatus golds, and 3 dickfeldi along with the golden nugget and king tiger. still kind of bummed cuz i was looking forward to the ones that MYSTERIOUSLY DIED!

[Sic_Maggot13]

nice!!! those fish are going to have SOO much room hahaha. you could throw like 30 more fish in :D anddd i got my tank up tonight!!! filter is spitting out some bubbles and i need to get the wiring all situated but if thats all not bad :D

[addicted2cichlids]

nice!!! those fish are going to have SOO much room hahaha. you could throw like 30 more fish in :D anddd i got my tank up tonight!!! filter is spitting out some bubbles and i need to get the wiring all situated but if thats all not bad :D

i know, i wanna but then again i dont want to overcrowd the tank. so for sure ill have 9 fronts, 2 boulengerochromis, 3 kendallis, 3 sex golds, and 3 dickfeldis in the 210 and the plecos will be housed with my ocellatus blues.
im still looking around for the lemairii and tetracanthus and ill be straight!...

thats good man! so whered you end up getting your tank from? mbunas?
you workin tomorrow so i can waste your time!

[Sic_Maggot13]

i know, i wanna but then again i dont want to overcrowd the tank. so for sure ill have 9 fronts, 2 boulengerochromis, 3 kendallis, 3 sex golds, and 3 dickfeldis in the 210 and the plecos will be housed with my ocellatus blues.
im still looking around for the lemairii and tetracanthus and ill be straight!...

thats good man! so whered you end up getting your tank from? mbunas?
you workin tomorrow so i can waste your time!

haha i got it from AW, no mbunas...just peacocks and haps. i work to today from 1-7 hahahaha

[addicted2cichlids]

haha i got it from AW, no mbunas...just peacocks and haps. i work to today from 1-7 hahahaha

post some pics!

[addicted2cichlids]

gonna hit up the airport today. my fish come in at 2:15 :headbang2 i hope theyre okay when they come in! ill post some pics once they get settled!

[ethnics]

pics pics pics.

hope they all made it okay ant, im sure they did tho. tanks lookin good dude

[Sic_Maggot13]

post some pics!

there is only 2 test mbunas in it right now...once i get some more fish

gonna hit up the airport today. my fish come in at 2:15 :headbang2 i hope theyre okay when they come in! ill post some pics once they get settled!

im sure they will br unless the guy shipping them is a moron, ive gotten fish from japan and they were fine :D

[mike dunagan]

I am so not sure about this purchase, but hey let us know!

[addicted2cichlids]

I am so not sure about this purchase, but hey let us know!

okay mike, i mean ad konings , NOT :screwy:
shhhhhhh, its gonna be okay mike! :wall: ....moving along

[addicted2cichlids]

so i got my fish :headbang2

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture173.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

you see the "blue watered" bags... yall know what it is? is it some sedative?

[addicted2cichlids]

anyways, for those who have been following/reading each post then you know that when i ordered these fish the vendor told me that the lemairii and tetracanthus all died after i ordered for unknown reasons! so heres the actual invoice of what i ended up with...
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look at the qty of the neolamprologus sexfasciatus golds! its say qty 3 right.
so i look at the bag and see something isnt right and open it and heres whats inside...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture182.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture181.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture179.jpg

...its 2 sexfasciatus golds and 1 lemairii! he got caught slippin! i knew it was BS! the lemairii's not even on the invoice nor did i end up paying for him! scam and he said they were all dead! he probably doesnt know that it got into the bag! A**HOLE! thats a shiesty move! cats like that are in the hobby for the wrong reasons! your supposed to help spread the species!

[addicted2cichlids]

heres better pics of the lemairii...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture201.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture197.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture195.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

heres the julidochromis dickfeldi...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture191.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture189.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture188.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

heres the lepidiolamprologus kendalli "nkamba bay"...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture187.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

L066
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture176.jpg

L018
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture178.jpg

[Sic_Maggot13]

you see the "blue watered" bags... yall know what it is? is it some sedative?

its either malachite green or this other stuff i forgot the name at the moment. but what it does is makes the fishs get oxygen all the time while being shipped, kinda forces them too. but the fish look nice! i bet it looks so funny with those tiny fish in there, mine does...only like 8 fish in there right now and it looks naked.

[Sic_Maggot13]

oh yeah and post some pics of the whole tank now!!!!

[addicted2cichlids]

oh yeah and post some pics of the whole tank now!!!!

i will, dont trip! everyones in the 210 now and doing good and settled/stable and eating. i gotta get more rocks for the dickfeldi's, kendalli's, and sexfasciatus gold's but theyre adapting really well for what i got in the tank so far. hahah, i still have the gold fish in there too!

[addicted2cichlids]

so my lfs hit me up and said that they got the neolamprologus tetracanthus in! :headbang2 this will complete most of my 210 stocklist minus the lemairii:irked: and still locating the neolam cunningtoni. gonna go swoop them up! oh yeaah! :nilly:

[mike dunagan]

yes the blue stuff helps keep the fish claim so they do not use too much oxygen. When I go to auctions fish will be in bag for the entire day until late that night, and I have yet to lose one in the blue water.

I have been burned by shippers before, so when a fish dies and then they have ones they said they didn't I fear is all. Glad to see they made it okay

[ethnics]

yah the blue water is always used when fish are shipped. keeps them calm, cuz when they stress they use more oxygen. and that bag doesn't have enough as it is. some fish stores even use it now like goldfish world jus to keep the fish less stressed.

fish are lookin good dude!

[fsc46]

For info on the blue stuff look up "bag buddies".

How about a recent tank shot!

[addicted2cichlids]

yah the blue water is always used when fish are shipped. keeps them calm, cuz when they stress they use more oxygen. and that bag doesn't have enough as it is. some fish stores even use it now like goldfish world jus to keep the fish less stressed.

fish are lookin good dude!

hahaha! i noticed that the first time i hit up goldfish world when i picked up some synodontis and then my tropheus pulled a 187 on them! i was like wtf! now i know!

[addicted2cichlids]

alright im back with my new tanganyikans! i ended up getting 4 neolamprologus tetracanthus! they look nice huh!...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture213.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture214.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture215.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

and boy was i lucky. they also just got in some lipidolamprologus cunningtoni's :headbang2 which they rarely get. i picked up 1 for now and might get another just wanna see how this one does!...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture216.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture217.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture218.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

so this wraps up my stocklist for my mostly "piscivore" 210. i just wanted more than 1 lemairii :( . i put that 1 lemairii with my occellatus cuz hes not that much bigger than they are!

[addicted2cichlids]

it no where near finished! its not my vision yet! i still gotta mount the heaters which im going to do right after this! get more rocks and pick out some fake plants and im DONE! ive just been taken my time and bs'n at that. no worries im really in no rush!

[addicted2cichlids]

heres the tank. sorry you cant really see. well theres nothing really to look at cuz its not finished...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture226.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

and here are the tanganyikans...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture246-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture247-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture248-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture249.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture245-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture244-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture243-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture242-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture235-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture237-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture239-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture240-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture227.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture232-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture234-1.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

like those african goldfish:naughty:

[johnny_1993]

hahah nice . wht sort of lighting do you have on that??

[addicted2cichlids]

hahah nice . wht sort of lighting do you have on that??

1 36" hagen sun-glo fluorescent. thinkin about getting another one since my tank came with 2 fixtures. going for that natural look!

[Sic_Maggot13]

1 36" hagen sun-glo fluorescent. thinkin about getting another one since my tank came with 2 fixtures. going for that natural look!

yeah you deff need some more lighting so we can see them colors! :D now i dont want to take pics of mine :(

[addicted2cichlids]

im gonna get more lava rocks and spread them out towards the back and stack some. mostly all the tangs are hugging the rocks! itll color up when i get the fake plants in!

[Sic_Maggot13]

im gonna get more lava rocks and spread them out towards the back and stack some. mostly all the tangs are hugging the rocks! itll color up when i get the fake plants in!

yeah i got like 3 big chunks of lace rock and im lucky if i see one fish out of the 7...kinda sucks but im sure they are just shy and will be all over the place as they get used to it and grow up.

[fishoverlivingspace]

I'd say more likely its methylene blue(or could be a trace copper solution), and it's a disease treatment(a lot of distributors use it as preventative measures, doesn't necessarily mean the fish are sick). I've seen fish shipped in blue and green water before, and I think that both of them are used as something to keep the water somewhat sterile, consume any ammonia produced, slow the fish's metabolism, or all three.

[mike dunagan]

Looking good, that is a great mix. SO what is the total stock list? I really like those guys. I was going to get some but was worried about eating my other fish... I might try them in a different setup.

[JamesRiggs]

Are those midnight dickfeldi julies?

[addicted2cichlids]

Are those midnight dickfeldi julies?

yuppers!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture205.jpg

[JamesRiggs]

NICE pickup! I am going to be ordering some midnights here real soon! How do you like them so far?


You ordered from Dave's didnt you???

[addicted2cichlids]

Looking good, that is a great mix. SO what is the total stock list? I really like those guys. I was going to get some but was worried about eating my other fish... I might try them in a different setup.

thanks mr. dunagan! so the complete stocklist for the 210 is...

9 - burundi frontosa (piscivore)
2 - boulengerochromis microlepis (piscivore)
3 - julidochromis dickfeldi midnights (micropredator)
1 - lepidiolamprologus cunningtoni (piscivore)
3 - lepidolamprologus kendalli (piscivore)
2 - neolamprologus sexfasciatus gold (micropredator)
4 - neolamprologus tetracanthus (predator)

...which one were you worried about eating other fish? just add a good amount of rock work and itll be fine!

right now the tetracanthus's cant make up their minds on which rocks they want to occupy! it almost seems like they follow the dickfeldi's around.

[addicted2cichlids]

NICE pickup! I am going to be ordering some midnights here real soon! How do you like them so far?


You ordered from Dave's didnt you???

noooooo, what are you talkin about:screwy:

[JamesRiggs]

LOL! Nice setup man! I really am jealous!

[addicted2cichlids]

NICE pickup! I am going to be ordering some midnights here real soon! How do you like them so far?


theyre pretty cool! i always wanted them and the spot i go for my tangs has never got them in so the only route was ordering! theyre just like other julies with their bellys to the rocks but the blues jump out!

[addicted2cichlids]

LOL! Nice setup man! I really am jealous!

thanks man! just take it as motivation! were all here for the
tanganyikans :headbang2

[JamesRiggs]

thanks man! just take it as motivation! were all here for the
tanganyikans :headbang2


Wasn't that a Nortorious BIG song? :ROFL:

[addicted2cichlids]

Wasn't that a Nortorious BIG song? :ROFL:

seriously? notorious big had "tanganyikans" in one of his songs!
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::R OFL::ROFL:

notorious big - "they call me ta-la-pia"

[addicted2cichlids]

yall know what, im so tempted to throw in my tropheus in! but no, its a hassle trying to feed 2 different groups in 1 tank! im not!

[johnny_1993]

that would look mad. :-)

[Sic_Maggot13]

yall know what, im so tempted to throw in my tropheus in! but no, its a hassle trying to feed 2 different groups in 1 tank! im not!

if i dont like the looks of my peacock/hap tank in a few months i might to tropheus tank

[fsc46]

heres the tank. sorry you cant really see. well theres nothing really to look at cuz its not finished...

Tank shots helps to soothe the addiction.:D

[fsc46]

and here are the tanganyikans...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture237-1.jpg

Is this a photo of the "neolamprologus sexfasciatus mpimbwe gold"?

[mike dunagan]

neolamprologus tetracanthus, I had one that was sold as 'Lamprologus' caudopunctatus then found out what it really was. So.... I traded him off. He would not work with the shellies he was in with. Was not afraid of him eating anything you had, just when I had him.

[addicted2cichlids]

if i dont like the looks of my peacock/hap tank in a few months i might to tropheus tank

get rid of the malawi's and do a tropheus tank! :headbang2 i think itll be more rewarding! im gonna redo my tropheus tank after i get the 210 complete!

[addicted2cichlids]

Tank shots helps to soothe the addiction.:D

i agree!

[addicted2cichlids]

Is this a photo of the "neolamprologus sexfasciatus mpimbwe gold"?

yeah that! i had some before but they passed! they look sweet when full grown!

[addicted2cichlids]

neolamprologus tetracanthus, I had one that was sold as 'Lamprologus' caudopunctatus then found out what it really was. So.... I traded him off. He would not work with the shellies he was in with. Was not afraid of him eating anything you had, just when I had him.

i see. i would of done the samething if i didnt have anywhere else to put the tetracanthus! i have to say that the group of tetracanthus are running my tank! bastards! hahahah! nothing too agro!

[mike dunagan]

I am sure they will. enjoy them!!!!!!!!!

[addicted2cichlids]

I am sure they will. enjoy them!!!!!!!!!

not really, this is temp! but i will!

[johnny_1993]

if i dont like the looks of my peacock/hap tank in a few months i might to tropheus tank

firstly learn to keep water paramaters good then get expenisve tropheus;)

[mike dunagan]

yea, crazy difficult comparative.

[voss345]

When i set up a big Tanganyikan tank i will be following your masterpiece
good work!

[addicted2cichlids]

firstly learn to keep water paramaters good then get expenisve tropheus;)

most tropheus are expensive :D . the cheapest ive got them was for $10 each and they were the common duboisi maswa. regarding to water parameters for tropheus just maintain a scheduled water change and stay with it. i do weekly water changes and bi-weekly vacuum on all my tanks as well as my tropheus tank!

[addicted2cichlids]

When i set up a big Tanganyikan tank i will be following your masterpiece
good work!

thanks for the kind words! tanganyikaaaa:headbang2

[addicted2cichlids]

i just sold my burundi's and hopefully replacing them with kigomas! i know my updates have been really laggin but ill have some new pics up this weekend! i changed the layout of the rocks and will be adding more this saturday! im really happy with this layout and now i just gotta add and stack!

[Muske]

How are the tetracanthus doing? I was up in the air about a proven pair I saw, until I saw them DOMINATING a 125 w/ all other fish twice there size. They are some of the toughest little bastards I've see. Good luck with them and hopefully you only have one male.

Can't wait til the Lepidios are all grown up.

[Robertshadow]

get rid of the malawi's and do a tropheus tank! :headbang2 i think itll be more rewarding! im gonna redo my tropheus tank after i get the 210 complete!

I've been keeping a single medium sized female trop in with my mixed africans, she's been thriving. I paid nine for mine and just added her in as an experiement, I don't know maybe I'm just lucky. I do alternate krill/greens day one day two type feeding. One meal day one, krill (she loves krill), two meals on day 2, greens. Seems to work perfectly. she's in with huge haps and she dosen't seem to even notice them, vise versa.

[addicted2cichlids]

How are the tetracanthus doing? I was up in the air about a proven pair I saw, until I saw them DOMINATING a 125 w/ all other fish twice there size. They are some of the toughest little bastards I've see. Good luck with them and hopefully you only have one male.

Can't wait til the Lepidios are all grown up.

yup, my cunningtoni got down and killed the dominate tetracanthus! now theres order in the tank and all this time you could see that the cunningtoni was buliding up! now it looks to be one male and two female tetracanthus. just guessing by size and how the two reacted to that one. had a feeling that cunningtoni was gonna put in work sooner or later! it is what it is!

which lepidolamprologus did you pick up?

[mike dunagan]

sorry for the loss

[addicted2cichlids]

sorry for the loss

thanks man but its all good. fish law. hahaha.

[mike dunagan]

Finally someone who understands it...!

[Sic_Maggot13]

Finally someone who understands it...!

understands what???

[gunnerx]

Very nice tank! You need to put a school of Cyps in there to stir things up! :D

[addicted2cichlids]

understands what???

the law of fish law is the laaaaawwwww!

reminds me of dr. moreau's island with marlon brando and val kilmer.

[addicted2cichlids]

Very nice tank! You need to put a school of Cyps in there to stir things up! :D

thanks gunnerx! ive been thinkin about cyps and other schooling fish but cant decide what kind of cyps! theres so many that i like! the cyps would mos def help wit everybody being so emo and hiding.

[mike dunagan]

That would help with the emo attitude.

[addicted2cichlids]

see whats a trip is the only ones that swim out in the open and hangout as a group is the cunningtoni (leading the pack), 3 tetracanthus, and the 2 boulengerochromis right behind. shouldnt they help with the whole emo trip or is it that the others are imtimidated and hide? it has to be that! so im gonna go ahead and introduce some cyps cuz this hide-n-seek thing isnt cool :irked:
it took me sometime just locating my kendalli's with a flashlight. man, they can hide!

[redpsycho78]

LOOKS GREAT SO FAR

[gunnerx]

Cyps seems to have this careless freedom about them. They don't care who they go to, where they go to and who runs the area. They swim about minding everyone else's business that suddenly everyone gets distracted. Right now all of my Tangs swim out in the open amongst each other and it's great to see! Even now the Julis come out into the open. I always read on forums that Julis always like to hide so it's hard to take pics. I don't seem to have that issue. :D

As for the type, pick anyone. :) I picked the cheapest that was offered to me. :D I actually got a really great deal for adult cyps.

[mike dunagan]

I have never had that julie problem my self, but I have heard from other that the cyps help claim everyone done. They are less jumpy when they are out.

[addicted2cichlids]

alright cool! cyps it is! doooo it!

[cichlids _killer]

lolz im start a malawi tank and u start a tang tank lolz ..its like westside going again eastside ..

[addicted2cichlids]

lolz im start a malawi tank and u start a tang tank lolz ..its like westside going again eastside ..

WESTSIDE! BOW DOWN! :headbang2 nah, no funk here! we all in the same "african riftlakes!" what now!

[addicted2cichlids]

so last, i rearranged the rocks cuz i wasnt feelin it and yesterday i got more rocks! this is where its at now but its not finished! i wanna add a few more rocks!
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture277.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

i wanna get some more rocks to at least mid level. but now you guys can see where its going!

[addicted2cichlids]

heres some more shots of the tank...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture273.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture271.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture275.jpg

[cichlids _killer]

damn lookin so damn good ...i aint even halfways there yet...is that lace rock in there? im still think what to go with ( lace or river) river here is cheap but lace around here 2.49$a pound its the cheaper that i found

[addicted2cichlids]

damn lookin so damn good ...i aint even halfways there yet...is that lace rock in there? im still think what to go with ( lace or river) river here is cheap but lace around here 2.49$a pound its the cheaper that i found

good lookin out man! remember its for the movement :headbang2 hahaha. its lava rock at $0.36 a pound!

[gunnerx]

That looks great! Yeah, you definitely need more rocks. :D You should put shellies right in the middle near the front, they would look great. I like the look of the stealth heaters. I currently have 1 400W but I just purchased 2 250w stealth heaters and I think I will use those 2 instead.

[addicted2cichlids]

That looks great! Yeah, you definitely need more rocks. :D You should put shellies right in the middle near the front, they would look great. I like the look of the stealth heaters. I currently have 1 400W but I just purchased 2 250w stealth heaters and I think I will use those 2 instead.

yeah, i know i need more rocks but yall get the idea. im also gonna add more shells for a cosmetic look but ill keep my shellies in their own tank but i agree it would look sick! that was actually my first setup thought but i didnt want to take any chances with shellies in a piscivore/predator tank! you feel me!
im using the same stealth wattages as you are. i got them set at 75 no more. i dont want cooked fish!

[Sic_Maggot13]

lookin good, wish i had that much width to fill up. i need to take out my big hunkin lace rock chunks and get smaller ones to stack. and you have the heaters set to 75???

[addicted2cichlids]

you have the heaters set to 75???

why? 250w heaters will heat a 210!

[Sic_Maggot13]

why? 250w heaters will heat a 210!

idk i just like my temps around 78-80 and the heaters only turn on when if gets below what you set it too. just curious

[addicted2cichlids]

idk i just like my temps around 78-80 and the heaters only turn on when if gets below what you set it too. just curious

thats cool! i know how they function.

[addicted2cichlids]

got my kigomas and cyps coming in this friday :headbang2

[mike dunagan]

I like the setup updates. Looking forward to the new fish. I still like the hide everything in the sump!!

[gunnerx]

got my kigomas and cyps coming in this friday :headbang2

Nice!! Can't wait to see them. Hope you take lots of pics. :D

[addicted2cichlids]

I still like the hide everything in the sump!!

what you talkin bout mike:confused: im lost man! i dont understand?

[addicted2cichlids]

Nice!! Can't wait to see them. Hope you take lots of pics. :D

just kind of worried cuz theyre getting shipped over night instead of same day! the guy wouldnt do same day aircargo on friday only overnight thru fedex on thursday only? never done fedex overnight but have heard some + and - things about it! im more worried cuz cyps are pretty sensitive! ill just keep my fingers crossed! im sure the fronts will make it just paranoid about the cyps!

[addicted2cichlids]

I like the setup updates. Looking forward to the new fish. I still like the hide everything in the sump!!

never mind i get it now. sorry im slow man, falling asleep. once i get more rocks the heaters will be covered and out of sight. you probably put your heater in your sump huh?

[Rbacchiega]

thanks for the wicked ass idea about the plumbing off of the fx5. I'll be using a modified version of this for my 8 foot tank. Danke!

[mike dunagan]

yes, I hid everything int he sump when I can. Makes it look really nice!

[addicted2cichlids]

thanks for the wicked ass idea about the plumbing off of the fx5. I'll be using a modified version of this for my 8 foot tank. Danke!

no problem!... post some pics of your setup once you get it done!

[addicted2cichlids]

got my kigomas and cyps coming in this friday :headbang2

originally it was scheduled for overnight fedex to the door but the cyps wouldnt be guaranteed if they die so i switched up shipment to same day aircargo and ill get them thursday night.

[Sic_Maggot13]

originally it was scheduled for overnight fedex to the door but the cyps wouldnt be guaranteed if they die so i switched up shipment to same day aircargo and ill get them thursday night.

if the guy uses pure oxygen they will last 24 hours and maybe more, just so you know

[Sic_Maggot13]

thats cool! i know how they function.

haha sorry didn't mean it like that.

[addicted2cichlids]

if the guy uses pure oxygen they will last 24 hours and maybe more, just so you know

i know, its just cyps are very sensitive to ship.

[addicted2cichlids]

haha sorry didn't mean it like that.

its all good man i know you mean no harm! anything new at AW in the african side?

[addicted2cichlids]

its all good man i know you mean no harm! anything new at AW in the african side?

hows the tank coming along?

[addicted2cichlids]

so i got my kigomas and cyprichromis utintas this past thurday and theyre doing good. i put the kigomas in the 210 and the cyps are in my 60 with my tropheus growing out some. the cyps are a inch and half and worried my 2 boulengerochromis will eat them cuz they do look like rosie minnows so i dont want to chance it! i also put more rocks in today which should do it! ill take some pics once it clears alittle cuz right now its foggy...

for those who have cyps, when do the males start showing color? right now all of them are a opal color.

[Sic_Maggot13]

damn your going to finish WAY before me...kinda got lazy on the stocking after i set up the tank and too lazy to order fish :P

[addicted2cichlids]

damn your going to finish WAY before me...kinda got lazy on the stocking after i set up the tank and too lazy to order fish :P

i feel yah man! i wasnt gonna go get rocks today cuz i was lazy after work and it was hot! but i told myself "quit bullsh*tin"

[addicted2cichlids]

derek, you ordering fish thru aw?

[Sic_Maggot13]

derek, you ordering fish thru aw?

i made i list of stuff i want but keep forgetting to tell them haha. why whats upp

[addicted2cichlids]

i made i list of stuff i want but keep forgetting to tell them haha. why whats upp

i wanna get some more shellies. you got a list of what you can get? will it be markup or you hook it up:D for wholesale?

[Sic_Maggot13]

i wanna get some more shellies. you got a list of what you can get? will it be markup or you hook it up:D for wholesale?

lmao give me a few and i will see if i can get them, i haven't really had time to look at the lists yet. hopefully i will know by this week.

[mike dunagan]

At least you have the tank. I have been in the process of setting up my sitting room. I have been so lazy at getting the stand build so I can order the two other tanks and set them up.

[addicted2cichlids]

so i got more rocks in the tank. i wanna add just alittle more...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture288.jpg

[addicted2cichlids]

theres alot of crevices and spots to hide in the tank! most of the tangs like to stay on the right side of the tank! i dont know why but they do!

[addicted2cichlids]

i added to the group 3 yellow calvus and... ill let yall tang fans guess!

[gunnerx]

The tank is looking great with the addition of rocks!

[addicted2cichlids]

so heres some photos i just took. i cant get a shot of the dickfeldi's and the sexfasciatus golds! :irked:

[addicted2cichlids]

lets try that again.... aahhhh

[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[cichlids _killer]

how many pound of rock did u put in there so far? its look str8

[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

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[addicted2cichlids]

sorry if the pics arent that clear! theres a total of 7 kigomas in there. the most ive seen swimming together was 5.

[addicted2cichlids]

the 2 boulengerochromis wouldnt stay still for a pic. they remind me of sharks. those two patrol the tank, bank and forth.

[addicted2cichlids]

okay, so its known by two names. "NAME THIS TANG!"

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[addicted2cichlids]

i had to use the flash cuz it blended in the black background. it swims close to the rocks and never swims thru the middle of the tank!

[addicted2cichlids]

hint, its pretty common and known for tangs!

[addicted2cichlids]

The tank is looking great with the addition of rocks!

thanks man! i wanna add about 50 more pounds.

[addicted2cichlids]

how many pound of rock did u put in there so far? its look str8

lets see, this recent trip to my rock spot i got 100lbs, 50lbs before, and 40lbs starting. spent about $80 on rocks!... *scratch neck* come on man, dont cut me off! i need my rocks! *scratch neck*

[addicted2cichlids]

for those who are wondering about the cyprichromis, i got my cyprichromis utintas in my tropheus tank growing out! theyre small and worried they might get swallowed so im gonna grow them out a bit! i got a group of 6. by the way, i know i asked this before but i never got a response from those who own cyps but when does the color come out in the males? my cyps are opal looking right now at 11/2". any idea?

[Sic_Maggot13]

so i got more rocks in the tank. i wanna add just alittle more...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture288.jpg

your tank deffinatly looks better than mine :( i have been working and no time to get things i want. congrats on a nice tank...

[addicted2cichlids]

thanks derek! im gonna add 50 more pounds of rock and some shells. i was thinkin, but not sure how itll look but hittin up ur spot for a nice piece of drift wood for the center! well see cuz those pieces arent cheap!

[addicted2cichlids]

okay, so its known by two names. "NAME THIS TANG!"

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture312.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k16/steadywestcoastin/Picture314.jpg


so i guess no one knows? wheres mike at? this one for mike then!

[gunnerx]

for those who are wondering about the cyprichromis, i got my cyprichromis utintas in my tropheus tank growing out! theyre small and worried they might get swallowed so im gonna grow them out a bit! i got a group of 6. by the way, i know i asked this before but i never got a response from those who own cyps but when does the color come out in the males? my cyps are opal looking right now at 11/2". any idea?

From reading on Chichlid Forums, most people said around 2" for colour on the tail and 2.5" for the body. Mine were already 3-4" when I got them so I didn't have to worry about that. :D You've got quite a great collection of tangs there!

[syxteenhmong]

DANG DAWG... those fish came to a GREAT OWNER MAN... lovin it.. i'm a way beginner so hopefully i'll get my own pad one of these days and get a beautiful setup like that bro.. Piranhas would look so bad ass in that tank! hahahahah...

[addicted2cichlids]

From reading on Chichlid Forums, most people said around 2" for colour on the tail and 2.5" for the body. Mine were already 3-4" when I got them so I didn't have to worry about that. :D You've got quite a great collection of tangs there!

thanks for the info man! :drool: im all about my tanganyikans and thanks again!
tanganyikaaa:headbang2

[addicted2cichlids]

DANG DAWG... those fish came to a GREAT OWNER MAN... lovin it.. i'm a way beginner so hopefully i'll get my own pad one of these days and get a beautiful setup like that bro.. Piranhas would look so bad ass in that tank! hahahahah...

good lookin out man! im sure youll have plenty of nice tanks setup! i saw your garage in the buy/sell section and you have nothing but big tanks! turn that garage into a fish room :headbang2 and piranhas would look sweet too!

[gunnerx]

so i guess no one knows? wheres mike at? this one for mike then!

Variabilichromis moori?

[addicted2cichlids]

Variabilichromis moori?

ahahaha! :headbang2 we got a winner! :headbang2 now who can tell me the old name?

[Sic_Maggot13]

thanks derek! im gonna add 50 more pounds of rock and some shells. i was thinkin, but not sure how itll look but hittin up ur spot for a nice piece of drift wood for the center! well see cuz those pieces arent cheap!

yeahh after i get most of the fish i want in the tank i will worry about the rocks and stuff. i want to take some of my big ones out and throw a tons of small ones. did you use eggcrate? and yeah i was thinking of eventually adding a little piece of wood down the road and some fake plants. we got a ton of small brichardi for like 5 bucks right now :D and like one other tang that im not even sure what they are because we got them yesterday

[Sic_Maggot13]

ahahaha! :headbang2 we got a winner! :headbang2 now who can tell me the old name?

Neolamprologus?

[mike dunagan]

broke down and got fronts huh? I am getting some Moori too. Mine will be smaller. I am unsure where to put them, but I have been waiting for them. Tank is coming along, but it will be full so at this rate!

[addicted2cichlids]

broke down and got fronts huh? I am getting some Moori too. Mine will be smaller. I am unsure where to put them, but I have been waiting for them. Tank is coming along, but it will be full so at this rate!

hahaha, yeah. sold the burundi and replaced with the kigomas. the moorii's from what i heard are great spawners! im not trying to breed so i got one. its a damn ninja! were you planning on puttin them in their own tank or community?

[addicted2cichlids]

yeahh after i get most of the fish i want in the tank i will worry about the rocks and stuff. i want to take some of my big ones out and throw a tons of small ones. did you use eggcrate? and yeah i was thinking of eventually adding a little piece of wood down the road and some fake plants. we got a ton of small brichardi for like 5 bucks right now :D and like one other tang that im not even sure what they are because we got them yesterday

nah, no eggcrate! my sand bed is thick in the middle to the back! i just set the rocks in and push them down till they were settled. im positive they will stay! ive been doing that for sometime now! how are them brichardi's lookin? are they as good as the wc's at pk? still debating on getting a few! cuz they are bad! :headbang2 find out what other tangs you got and if theyre not common ill pick them up! let me know!

[Sic_Maggot13]

nah, no eggcrate! my sand bed is thick in the middle to the back! i just set the rocks in and push them down till they were settled. im positive they will stay! ive been doing that for sometime now! how are them brichardi's lookin? are they as good as the wc's at pk? still debating on getting a few! cuz they are bad! :headbang2 find out what other tangs you got and if theyre not common ill pick them up! let me know!

yeah thats what i do with no eggcrate. well they are just the regular brichardis not the wc dafodils, i thought you said you liked the normal ones better when i told you pet kingdom had nice daffodils. and i will check what we just got in hopefully tomorrow

[bzVon]

Nice tang tank:headbang2:headbang2

[addicted2cichlids]

Nice tang tank:headbang2:headbang2

thanks man!

[malawi haps]

Lookin good they dont call this site MONSTER for nothing!!

[Bawb2u]

Not to be a jerk but I see MAJOR FLAW in your plumbing design! I haven't read through the whole thread, so I don't know if this was addressed somewhere else but:

If your Fluval breaks or stops working you are going to have to drain almost the entire tank to take it out and fix or replace it. You should have put some shutoff valves in-line before the Fluval shutoff valves. You can get threaded PVC valves, put male barbed fittings in them and place them in the tygon before the Fluval. That way you can shut them down to keep water in the tank while removing the entire filter without having to leave the top of the Fluval in place.

[addicted2cichlids]

Not to be a jerk but I see MAJOR FLAW in your plumbing design! I haven't read through the whole thread, so I don't know if this was addressed somewhere else but:

If your Fluval breaks or stops working you are going to have to drain almost the entire tank to take it out and fix or replace it. You should have put some shutoff valves in-line before the Fluval shutoff valves. You can get threaded PVC valves, put male barbed fittings in them and place them in the tygon before the Fluval. That way you can shut them down to keep water in the tank while removing the entire filter without having to leave the top of the Fluval in place.

I SEE A MAJOR FLAW IN YOUR ABILITY TO READ AND PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL!

[addicted2cichlids]

Not to be a jerk but I see MAJOR FLAW in your plumbing design! I haven't read through the whole thread, so I don't know if this was addressed somewhere else but:

If your Fluval breaks or stops working you are going to have to drain almost the entire tank to take it out and fix or replace it. You should have put some shutoff valves in-line before the Fluval shutoff valves. You can get threaded PVC valves, put male barbed fittings in them and place them in the tygon before the Fluval. That way you can shut them down to keep water in the tank while removing the entire filter without having to leave the top of the Fluval in place.

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[WarPath2007]

I enjoyed reading your thread. When I'm ready to setup one, i will use yours and maybe mix it with fmueller for the fish and closed-loop setup.

[ttmf]

nice job and setup so far.

[fsc46]

I just though of something, couldn't you turn the pvc pipe that drains into the FX5 180 degrees.

If that hose should leak, it wouldn't drain to the bottom hole. Unless of course it leaks from the bulkhead or one of the elbow joints.

[addicted2cichlids]

I just though of something, couldn't you turn the pvc pipe that drains into the FX5 180 degrees.

If that hose should leak, it wouldn't drain to the bottom hole. Unless of course it leaks from the bulkhead or one of the elbow joints.

its all covered! no worries!

[addicted2cichlids]

I enjoyed reading your thread. When I'm ready to setup one, i will use yours and maybe mix it with fmueller for the fish and closed-loop setup.

good looking out pinoy!

[addicted2cichlids]

nice job and setup so far.

thanks man! what island you on? im originally from waialua, oahu!

[Bawb2u]

I SEE A MAJOR FLAW IN YOUR ABILITY TO READ AND PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL!

Please enlighten me then. I saw the way you have the tank plumbed. It looks to me as if one of the valves on the FX5 breaks, you have to drain the tank down past the lowest bulkhead to pull the valve out. I was just pointing out that having shutoff valves inline above that would keep that from being a problem. Or you can just be a size 7 font jackass again.

[addicted2cichlids]

If your Fluval breaks or stops working you are going to have to drain almost the entire tank to take it out and fix or replace it.

no, your wrong! all i need to do is turn the fx5 valves to close and remove the fx5! i dont need to drain nothing!

[addicted2cichlids]

also, why would the valve break on the fx5? it wont! so dont worry about it!

[mike dunagan]

lol, It can don't say it can't or it will.

I understand your lack of concern. It is pretty unlikely, and I can understand your concern, but they have a cut off already in line.