arapaima laws

[osteoglossum]

wats the situation with arapaima gigas in the US. are there state by state laws? are they illegal? the LFS near me thinks they are illegal yet i see them on live aquaria, aqua bid, and numerous posts on MFK.


whats the deal!?:nilly:

thanks

[AttackFish]

Legal.

[osteoglossum]

not that i dont trust you but i read they were added to the CITES list. were they removed or what?

[s15240drifter]

i dont know much about it, but from what i have seen here you need the proper paper work for them and about 30,000 gallons.

[AttackFish]

Doubt it.
If so, would you see so many people with them on MFK?
Would you see so many people selling them publicly?
Trust me.
They're legal.

[AttackFish]

i dont know much about it, but from what i have seen here you need the proper paper work for them and about 30,000 gallons.

Oh yeah.
The 30,000 is a new law.

[groovitudedude]

Oh yeah.
The 30,000 is a new law.

No need to get sarcastic....

:chillpill:

[osteoglossum]

is there a credible website that tells you exactly what you need? (if or if not you need paperwork)

[osteoglossum]

or maybe an arapaima owner we could ask?

fyi i know i dont want one my silver aro is keeping my hands fuller than they should be as it is, i just want a def. answer

[rallysman]

copied from Oddballs thread in the frequently asked questions section:

OHIO:

-- it is unlawful for any person to possess, import, or sell live individuals of the following fish species (scientific names listed exactly as provided in code section) or hybrids of any such species at any given time:

1) walking catfish (Clarias batrachus),
2) diploid white amur or diploid grass carp (Ctenopharygodon idella),
3) silver carp -- white bream (Hypopthalmichtyhys molitirx),
4) black amur -- black carp (Mylopharyngodon piceus),
5) bighead carp -- bighead -- bighead amur (Aristichthys nobilis),
6) rufe (Gymnocephalus cernuus),
7) round goby (Neogobius melanostomus),
8) tubenose goby (Proterorhynus marmoratus),
9) snakeheads (Channa spp. and Parachanna spp.),
10) white perch (Morone America),
11) three spine stickleback (Culaeea aculeatus),
12) sea lamprey (Petromyzon marinus),
13) eastern banded killifish (Fundulus diaphanus diaphanus),

Souce: Ohio Dept. of Natural Resources, Division of Wildlife regulations, Ohio Administrative Code (OAC) 1501:31-19-01(A).


I've never heard of having to fill out paper work or do anything special to get a pima.

[osteoglossum]

thank you

[deeda]

Here is the link to Ohio Administrative Code regarding unlawful fishes. http://codes.ohio.gov/oac/1501%3A31-19-01

[dookie]

they need export papers to leave the country. sometimes F&W may ask for a copy of the paperwork. Your importer should have a copy on hand.

[Zoodiver]

The truth of it is that Arapaima gigas is listed under CITES Appendix II.
If you have on in the US, it needs to have paperwork showing it was taken from it's country of origin legally. If you do not have that documentation, it makes it blackmarket and illegal in ALL 50 states - whether that state prohibits them or not. The reason you need to have paperwork is to prove it was brought in legally. If US F/W officers show up one day and asks to see proof, they won't take "Trust me, I got it legally at a petshop" as an answer.
I would not buy one unless that company could provide the legal paperwork. LiveAquaria.com is NOT a good supplier for Arapaima. They provide misinformation about adult size, proper care and after talking with them myself, refuse to add the legal paperwork or pass on the name of their importer for confirmation that they are indeed legal animals.

MOST Southern US states have laws against them. Some local laws regulate them as well.

[johnptc]

The truth of it is that Arapaima gigas is listed under CITES Appendix II.
If you have on in the US, it needs to have paperwork showing it was taken from it's country of origin legally. If you do not have that documentation, it makes it blackmarket and illegal in ALL 50 states - whether that state prohibits them or not. The reason you need to have paperwork is to prove it was brought in legally. If US F/W officers show up one day and asks to see proof, they won't take "Trust me, I got it legally at a petshop" as an answer.
I would not buy one unless that company could provide the legal paperwork. LiveAquaria.com is NOT a good supplier for Arapaima. They provide misinformation about adult size, proper care and after talking with them myself, refuse to add the legal paperwork or pass on the name of their importer for confirmation that they are indeed legal animals.

MOST Southern US states have laws against them. Some local laws regulate them as well.


:iagree::iagree::iagree: this about what i have heard/read


however i was unable to get papper work on either of mine even though they were imported legally :(


since the exporters name is on the cities permit no one would give it out... like it was a big secret where they come from :(

[TLkmDN]

:iagree::iagree::iagree: this about what i have heard/read


however i was unable to get papper work on either of mine even though they were imported legally :(


since the exporters name is on the cities permit no one would give it out... like it was a big secret where they come from :(
ARREST HIM!!! lol jks...besides even if they found ure arapaimas id like to see them jump in to catch them...hope the wallago eats them :s

[bluestarjazz]

This would explain why one of the sites that was selling them said they came with paperwork

[ilikewomen]

don't ever trust the lfs,its all bs.