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West1
08-13-2008, 4:30 PM
none right now, maybe later tonight.

its a 130.. 60x20x24

mostly eartheaters in the tank though lol.

2 Surinamensis
5 Tapajos Red heads
1 Jurapari
2 Armatus
and 2 parrot fish.

Nice. What size are the Tapajos (pike right?) and Armatus? No fighting?
I want to try this combo too, except with just one of each with a Goliath.
Only prob is I have no extra tank incase the Tapajo gets brave on me

xaznkewlguyx
08-13-2008, 4:34 PM
Nice. What size are the Tapajos (pike right?) and Armatus? No fighting?
I want to try this combo too, except with just one of each with a Goliath.
Only prob is I have no extra tank incase the Tapajo gets brave on me

not a pike, they are geo's.

nope no fighting.. armatus is about 6" and the geo's are about 2.5-3".

jlnguyen74
08-13-2008, 5:11 PM
ahah i am trying to get them to recognize me as food so i only give them 4 feeders a day. :popcorn:
These guys get aggressive when they're hungry. That's why they tested each other. I hope they don't go after your geophagus

none right now, maybe later tonight.

its a 130.. 60x20x24

mostly eartheaters in the tank though lol.

2 Surinamensis
5 Tapajos Red heads
1 Jurapari
2 Armatus
and 2 parrot fish.

I should hold on to those nice size Tapajos Red Head I had in the past to swap with you for your Armatus :(

xaznkewlguyx
08-13-2008, 7:37 PM
These guys get aggressive when they're hungry. That's why they tested each other. I hope they don't go after your geophagus



I should hold on to those nice size Tapajos Red Head I had in the past to swap with you for your Armatus :(

I would have done it too. :irked:

1badspilo
08-15-2008, 11:43 PM
hi guys I am new here. Here are a few pics of my Armatus. I have had him for about a month now. THe first pic is the day I received him and the others are from this week. He was just over 1.5" when I got him, now he is 4-4.5".

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9230/005ne9.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8323/017rq4.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8323/017rq4.jpg

channarox
08-16-2008, 12:14 AM
nice.
theres a few vids of that guy on youtube?

West1
09-08-2008, 9:42 AM
UPDATES!!!!!
West up with your $50.00 armatus-es?? Pics, pics, pics

Post size bought and current size now

DB junkie
09-08-2008, 3:17 PM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/rflwagon/PICT0594.jpg

DB junkie
09-08-2008, 3:17 PM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/rflwagon/PICT0596.jpg

West1
09-08-2008, 3:20 PM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/rflwagon/PICT0596.jpg

What size are your bad boys now??

Mine is about 6-7"
Still have not tried to get him off live foods. Been trying my Arse off thou with my Goliath:D

DB junkie
09-08-2008, 3:23 PM
Bought at about an inch to an inch and a half. Biggest close to 7, the runt about 5. I still have 1 that's being stubborn. Other 4 took to smelt easily but the one starved for over 3 weeks. Charges the smelt but just won't take it. I broke down and gave it a few rosies.... ate within 10 seconds of them being released on his side of the tank (divided). His will is a LOT stronger than mine...... I'll teach it yet though....really don't have a choice.... Can't seem to sell the thing.

West1
09-08-2008, 3:26 PM
Bought at about an inch to an inch and a half. Biggest close to 7, the runt about 5. I still have 1 that's being stubborn. Other 4 took to smelt easily but the one starved for over 3 weeks. Charges the smelt but just won't take it. I broke down and gave it a few rosies.... ate within 10 seconds of them being released on his side of the tank (divided). His will is a LOT stronger than mine...... I'll teach it yet though....really don't have a choice.... Can't seem to sell the thing.

I was told that my guy stuffed down 9 minnows in about 5 min. I was blown away. I think the growth spur is ganna start real soon... maybe 5-5:30:ROFL:

DB junkie
09-08-2008, 3:43 PM
Growth spurts......BLAH. I hope mine never hit them. I want MINImatuses. I'de be allright with mine staying this size for a few years. They get any bigger and they are just gonna kill everything. I kinda dig the Odoe/Armatus combo right now.... Heavy infantry with a few snipers..... The Armatus just go nuts at feeding time... But the Odoes never miss. I don't want to have to throw mine in the pond..... I'de rather throw them in a monster tank that I have yet to build cause I don't OWN a friggin house yet. I feel stupid.... ALL I wanted was an Armatus. Couldn't find one so I bought a shoal of Tats. Got an Armatus and it killed off a few Tats and took over the tank. Then after it died I was lucky enough to find more.... Now what? I want a shoal of manageable Tats........ Cause until I buy a house I'm gonna end up with a POND of Armatus. What fun is that?

West1
09-08-2008, 3:51 PM
Growth spurts......BLAH. I hope mine never hit them. I want MINImatuses. I'de be allright with mine staying this size for a few years. They get any bigger and they are just gonna kill everything. I kinda dig the Odoe/Armatus combo right now.... Heavy infantry with a few snipers..... The Armatus just go nuts at feeding time... But the Odoes never miss. I don't want to have to throw mine in the pond..... I'de rather throw them in a monster tank that I have yet to build cause I don't OWN a friggin house yet. I feel stupid.... ALL I wanted was an Armatus. Couldn't find one so I bought a shoal of Tats. Got an Armatus and it killed off a few Tats and took over the tank. Then after it died I was lucky enough to find more.... Now what? I want a shoal of manageable Tats........ Cause until I buy a house I'm gonna end up with a POND of Armatus. What fun is that?

I just bought my House and almost finished remodeling:naughty:

I told the Mrs.... next is the tank:headbang2
Then go up another on the house:popcorn:
Hopefully 1500gl or around there depending on measurements in the living room:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headb ang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headb ang2:headbang2

I would forcast a few Years till this happends but you never know:naughty:

DB junkie
09-08-2008, 4:08 PM
Sounds like YOU should be the one with the 5 Armatus......... Paging Mr. West your Armatus are now broken.... Pick up in Iowa.

West1
09-08-2008, 4:32 PM
Sounds like YOU should be the one with the 5 Armatus......... Paging Mr. West your Armatus are now broken.... Pick up in Iowa.


:ROFL:
If I go on a business trip down there, Id gladly pack them in my suitcase and bring them over:ROFL:

DB junkie
09-08-2008, 4:36 PM
Patience man..... I can ship them to your doorstep. I will be laying the groundwork to be able to ship VERY soon. After this not being able to give shibby away in this butt crack of the earth people like to grow corn in....... I have no choice. I will be breeding rays very soon so I have no choice but to make them happy and get them the hell outta here!!!

West1
09-09-2008, 7:57 AM
Patience man..... I can ship them to your doorstep. I will be laying the groundwork to be able to ship VERY soon. After this not being able to give shibby away in this butt crack of the earth people like to grow corn in....... I have no choice. I will be breeding rays very soon so I have no choice but to make them happy and get them the hell outta here!!!

Your getting rid of all 5pcs??

DB junkie
09-09-2008, 8:05 AM
^^ Would if the price was right. Stupid stingrays. But when I said make them happy and get them outta here I met the baby rays (in the future) sorry for confizzle.

DB junkie
09-09-2008, 8:05 AM
More pics from a crap phone.........http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/rflwagon/IMG00076.jpg

DB junkie
09-09-2008, 8:06 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/rflwagon/IMG00078.jpg

West1
09-09-2008, 8:08 AM
More pics from a crap phone.........http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/rflwagon/IMG00076.jpg

What kind of RAYmonds do you have??:naughty:

DB junkie
09-09-2008, 8:23 AM
2 Mantillas. 7 Marbles...... Probobly gonna end up picking up a few more Mantillas as well.

West1
09-09-2008, 8:31 AM
2 Mantillas. 7 Marbles...... Probobly gonna end up picking up a few more Mantillas as well.

Sweet. What are you ganna breed soon?? Man or Marble... both?

DB junkie
09-09-2008, 8:53 AM
Well.... Lets see..... I've had 1/2 them for a year and haven't got squat yet.... LOL So I guess at this point only god knows..... Cause 1 things certain, I sure as hell don't. I KNOW the pup which I thought was a Mantilla (apparently isn't) won't be ready for breeding for a few years. The other suspected mantilla/ unidentified/hybrid looks like she is prego but then again has looked that was since I've had her. So in conclusion..... I don't know anything.... Except beer is good and Iowa sux (except for the album... that is good)

West1
09-09-2008, 8:57 AM
Well.... Lets see..... I've had 1/2 them for a year and haven't got squat yet.... LOL So I guess at this point only god knows..... Cause 1 things certain, I sure as hell don't. I KNOW the pup which I thought was a Mantilla (apparently isn't) won't be ready for breeding for a few years. The other suspected mantilla/ unidentified/hybrid looks like she is prego but then again has looked that was since I've had her. So in conclusion..... I don't know anything.... Except beer is good and Iowa sux (except for the album... that is good)


:ROFL:... alright dogg:D

West1
09-10-2008, 8:06 AM
Here are some pics of mine.

VATF is about 5".................:WHOA:

Armatus is close to 7"


...trying to give him the feel of the wild and letting the Alge grow:ROFL:

Sike... he ate my Pleco:irked::screwy: (Armatus did)

channarox
09-10-2008, 5:07 PM
the plecos gone and :WHOA:!
hope they stay peaceful like that.

West1
09-11-2008, 7:58 AM
the plecos gone and :WHOA:!
hope they stay peaceful like that.


:ROFL:. I know... I hope he dont kill my 2nd to last atf but my last Vittatus:irked:
He is ganna stay there till he is about 8-9" then off to the 300
hopefully, hopefully by then the Vittatus will still be breathing:D

Pleco I put in there was 3.5 maybe 4".... just a common one and gone?
No where to be found. No way out cause of the canopy and the 2" gap from water surface and the top of the tank.... rena has the case thing around the inlet... so I have reason to believe that the Armatus took him out. Oh yeah... no Decor to hide either:irked:

channarox
09-11-2008, 10:15 AM
was the armatus fat?

West1
09-11-2008, 10:31 AM
was the armatus fat?


Dont know?? I throw in feeders every 4-5 days and didnt see the Pleco before I did a water change. So Im assuming he got "wacked" :ROFL:

channarox
09-11-2008, 10:32 AM
:ROFL:
pleco murderer!

DB junkie
09-11-2008, 10:41 AM
You seriously think it was eaten? My Armatus can't eat a full piece of smelt. Considering the fins and the skull itself I would think this to be put near impossible...... I have spotted pictus in with my Armatus. They are maybe 3 inches. Silvery and always moving. They haven't been touched. Haven't even seen a nipped fin. I would think it would spit out a hard arse pleco after the first time it bit down on it.

West1
09-11-2008, 10:58 AM
You seriously think it was eaten? My Armatus can't eat a full piece of smelt. Considering the fins and the skull itself I would think this to be put near impossible...... I have spotted pictus in with my Armatus. They are maybe 3 inches. Silvery and always moving. They haven't been touched. Haven't even seen a nipped fin. I would think it would spit out a hard arse pleco after the first time it bit down on it.

The plecos body was prob 2" and maybe the tail 1" so I might think the Armatus could have. He is probly close to 7"
This was like a week ago, or atleast I just noticed last Thursday. When the lil guy was added, there was no water changes and no one touched the tank. I doubt the pleco jumped out?? No possible way he got sucked into the canister.... cause of the blue plastic rena pc.

I just added some minnows in 2 days ago and there was the biggest Fing minnow I ever seen. Maybe 3" long and beefy. It was the very first to fall to the Armatus. It took him a while to get it down but he did:WHOA:

Dont know to tell you the truth but I do know I have an unsolved
mystery:D

DB junkie
09-11-2008, 11:01 AM
Geez. I feel for your Armatus man...... When it comes to be time to lay out that duece it's gonna be like a human crappin a bowling ball sized pinecone. Whoaaa OUCH.

West1
09-11-2008, 11:24 AM
Geez. I feel for your Armatus man...... When it comes to be time to lay out that duece it's gonna be like a human crappin a bowling ball sized pinecone. Whoaaa OUCH.

Now that you mention that, I have not seen anything over sized??
Now you got me thinking where is it at??
Ganna check my canister.... but there is no possible way to get there if I have not turned it off or the plastic pc has not been taken off...

Im going :screwy: thinking about the lil guy:D

West1
09-29-2008, 7:16 AM
Here goes some updates on my guy
He is 6 or 7"s

hybridtheoryd16
09-29-2008, 5:09 PM
Nice --------------it should not be to hard to find that pleco in there.

channarox
09-29-2008, 5:09 PM
very nice west!
time to get him off feeders!

West1
09-30-2008, 7:56 AM
Nice --------------it should not be to hard to find that pleco in there.

As a matter afact, my baby pleco just checked out yesterday:irked:

very nice west!
time to get him off feeders!

I was trying for a day but decided to beef him up till he goes in with the Goliath:D. Then Ill do it. To thin to go in right now... need him about 3" bigger so I can free up his tank for some babys Orino, and Pike Odoe:naughty:

West1
10-20-2008, 7:52 AM
Here goes an update on my 8"er

channarox
10-20-2008, 3:15 PM
nice one west!
when you putting him with the goliath? :D

West1
10-20-2008, 3:39 PM
nice one west!
when you putting him with the goliath? :D


Im ganna say somewhere between 9 and 10"

Most likely 9" So if he strikes the odds should be that much closer for my Goliath to survive (Dudes got some long Arse Fangs. Looks pretty cool when feeders get stuck in the fangs and he has to shake them off:naughty:)

channarox
10-20-2008, 3:52 PM
Im ganna say somewhere between 9 and 10"

Most likely 9" So if he strikes the odds should be that much closer for my Goliath to survive (Dudes got some long Arse Fangs. Looks pretty cool when feeders get stuck in the fangs and he has to shake them off:naughty:)

well,he is 8 inches now.
why not just add him now?
i doubt the wolf or gatf will bother about him if they dont touch 5 inch geos.:D

West1
10-20-2008, 4:25 PM
well,he is 8 inches now.
why not just add him now?
i doubt the wolf or gatf will bother about him if they dont touch 5 inch geos.:D


Hmmmm, Very true...............:popcorn:
Im ganna have to think about that

DB junkie
10-20-2008, 4:31 PM
Get a nice divider built and add him now. You want the GATF bigger than him. Wait much longer and it's just gonna shave more time off the allready limited time you'll see them together before the Armatus stakes it's claim.

If you actualy want this to work your Armatus NEEDS to be off live. I'm guessing it's probobly too late allready...... Should have had it off live a while ago. Then it would be a puddy tat now.......

West1
10-22-2008, 7:50 AM
Get a nice divider built and add him now. You want the GATF bigger than him. Wait much longer and it's just gonna shave more time off the allready limited time you'll see them together before the Armatus stakes it's claim.

If you actualy want this to work your Armatus NEEDS to be off live. I'm guessing it's probobly too late allready...... Should have had it off live a while ago. Then it would be a puddy tat now.......


No not to late:D
Just yesterday he took a shot at some Scallops on a fishing line:headbang2
Nothing down the pipe, but smelled it maybe 3 times and opened wide.... but released it:cry:

DB junkie
10-22-2008, 8:10 AM
If he's biting scallops he'll take smelt. Scallops are still shaken off the shanks of mine occasionally. I don't think they like the way it feels. Try some smelt......

West1
10-22-2008, 10:30 AM
If he's biting scallops he'll take smelt. Scallops are still shaken off the shanks of mine occasionally. I don't think they like the way it feels. Try some smelt......


Ill try some tonight:D

I added my 8" Silver Aro with the GATF and Wolf and there is no aggression over there. If no scales are missing Im ganna add my Armatus this weekend:popcorn:

West1
11-06-2008, 8:45 AM
Just thought Id update my Armatus with a before and now pic:D

Picked him up at around 1.5" and is currently 8.25ish

The bigger pic was taken yesterday after a scuffle with my Goliath. Goliath took first blood:irked: (Red dot behind the Gill Plate)

DB junkie
11-06-2008, 9:39 AM
Well if his aim was a little better maybe you'de have a shot at housing them together. If the Armatus is blind in one eye it might just work.....LOL

Have you broken lines of sight in your tank with say several driftwood pieces?

West1
11-06-2008, 10:16 AM
Well if his aim was a little better maybe you'de have a shot at housing them together. If the Armatus is blind in one eye it might just work.....LOL

Have you broken lines of sight in your tank with say several driftwood pieces?

Well I did think of trying to buy a mouth pc for the Armatus but I guess ill try to look for a pair of fish muzzles:ROFL:

I thought about adding more driftwood but the Goliath spears around the tank sometimes and i dont want to risk him messing up his beautiful
face;). I have the current from the sump going towards the left and most of the current is felt on the left of the tank. that is where the Goliath kicks it at and the Armatus likes it too. I might add a lil pump to the right side so there is more current in there?

I hate to say it but if I cant house them together, Id be giving up the Armatus:cry:. Goliaths are to hard to find and his teeth look KickArse!
They are always revealed:naughty:....JMO

DB junkie
11-06-2008, 10:39 AM
I had to use driftwood in my 180 to break up sight. Now that I think about it.... I am NOT sure if it has anything to do with sight. Each Armatus had it's own little cozy nook, it's own territory. Another Armatus would come along and take the territory and that one would just move along to the next one. Musical nooks if you will.

Try building a nook out of driftwood. Once your Armatus fins a place he's comfy in he's more than likely going to hang out there. The GirAFT will just swim by, likely the Armatus will charge then go back to it's nook. Eventually the GirAFT will figure out to stay clear and you should have a possible co-hab.

This is of course a perfect world..... And we all know this world isn't. Otherwise you'de have an Aimara in the mix.... LOL

All else fails just de-fang the Armatus....... LMAO.

West1
11-06-2008, 10:59 AM
I had to use driftwood in my 180 to break up sight. Now that I think about it.... I am NOT sure if it has anything to do with sight. Each Armatus had it's own little cozy nook, it's own territory. Another Armatus would come along and take the territory and that one would just move along to the next one. Musical nooks if you will.

Try building a nook out of driftwood. Once your Armatus fins a place he's comfy in he's more than likely going to hang out there. The GirAFT will just swim by, likely the Armatus will charge then go back to it's nook. Eventually the GirAFT will figure out to stay clear and you should have a possible co-hab.

This is of course a perfect world..... And we all know this world isn't. Otherwise you'de have an Aimara in the mix.... LOL

All else fails just de-fang the Armatus....... LMAO.


y defang him, I could just throw him in a 10gl and let him bash his face for me.........:grinno:
I do see that the Armatus goes behind the driftwood when its lights out. Other than that, the two have their cozy spots in the same spot. That is what I think will make World WarIII. They start then the Gold Wolf smels blood and jumps in...

We will see. gatta see how they are doing today:D

DB junkie
11-06-2008, 11:08 AM
y defang him, I could just throw him in a 10gl and let him bash his face for me.........:grinno:
I do see that the Armatus goes behind the driftwood when its lights out. Other than that, the two have their cozy spots in the same spot. That is what I think will make World WarIII. They start then the Gold Wolf smels blood and jumps in...

We will see. gatta see how they are doing today:D

My point was if they have a common hangout then there needs to be more hangouts..... Put like 1 at each end of the tank and one in the middle.

Good luck meng!!! I know I'm rootin for you guys.....

West1
11-06-2008, 11:15 AM
My point was if they have a common hangout then there needs to be more hangouts..... Put like 1 at each end of the tank and one in the middle.

Good luck meng!!! I know I'm rootin for you guys.....

:ROFL:.... you and me both:D:D:D

channarox
11-06-2008, 8:22 PM
good luck west.
i'd keep that armatus and get rid of the GATF.
do what alan said!

West1
11-17-2008, 3:34 PM
Some pics of my guy eating:D

He is about 9.25-9.5"

channarox
11-17-2008, 7:07 PM
nice west. :headbang2
i still cant believe i dont have one yet. :(