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West1
06-17-2008, 9:36 AM
Okay... a few MFKers bought some Payaras for $50.00 from RKC and lets get those good clear shots out and start to disect the Armatus vs Tat
The Juvis have dark freckles on their body and they do swim like an Armatus/Tat does.
The tail does look round like DBJunkies Juvi Armatus, so that
is a PLUS!!:headbang2. I am 70% Tat and 30% Armatus... so I still have hope (as does the Celtics:ROFL:)
Here is an example of a Bad shot:ROFL:(Sorry, it is a phone pic:D)

jlnguyen74
06-17-2008, 9:46 AM
I'm sorry to be the first one who breaks it to you. Your picture is worthless!!!! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: I have an idea. Put one of yours with Recs' Gulper, and ask the Gulper if it tastes like the one he gulped the other night :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

JD7.62
06-17-2008, 9:46 AM
LoL get us a better shot man!

Oh and besides the fact youre in the wrong forum!

jlnguyen74
06-17-2008, 9:48 AM
LoL get us a better shot man!

Oh and besides the fact youre in the wrong forum!
LMAO :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: I didn't notice he posted it in Datnoids Forum :grinno: :grinno: :grinno: :grinno: You ruined my morning, yet you made my day, Big Dog E

West1
06-17-2008, 9:49 AM
I'm sorry to be the first one who breaks it to you. Your picture is worthless!!!! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: I have an idea. Put one of yours with Recs' Gulper, and ask the Gulper if it tastes like the one he gulped the other night :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

I know:D:ROFL:
Lets see the pro shots J. I want to see a pic of the "Flock of Birds you bought"

LoL get us a better shot man!

Oh and besides the fact youre in the wrong forum!

Dude... I swear I put it in the correct spot. I even logged off and logged back on to edit it on the correct place. I Swear:screwy:, Oh well... MODS move pls

jlnguyen74
06-17-2008, 9:54 AM
I know:D:ROFL:
Dude... I swear I put it in the correct spot. I even logged off and logged back on to edit it on the correct place. I Swear:screwy:, Oh well... MODS move pls
It's all good E! Just have a cup of coffee before you start your day :D

West1
06-17-2008, 9:59 AM
It's all good E! Just have a cup of coffee before you start your day :D

Hey hey, Im not that tired:D (well maybe but no). I was able to get some Z's

I dont know bud, Im leaning pretty strong towards Tat's:screwy:
You think they are Armatus J?

jlnguyen74
06-17-2008, 10:08 AM
Hey hey, Im not that tired:D (well maybe but no). I was able to get some Z's

I dont know bud, Im leaning pretty strong towards Tat's:screwy:
You think they are Armatus J?
I'm not an expert, so I can't give 100% ID. Besides, in my line of work, "think" means "I don't know if..." It's either "I know" or "I think" :D Give them a month or two, and we'll know. :naughty:

West1
06-17-2008, 10:20 AM
I'm not an expert, so I can't give 100% ID. Besides, in my line of work, "think" means "I don't know if..." It's either "I know" or "I think" :D Give them a month or two, and we'll know. :naughty:

Yeah, time to beef them up

Onion01
06-17-2008, 10:24 AM
hopefully I will have my own up sometime this week. How big is yours, and what tank size is it in?

Dragon Hunter
06-17-2008, 10:25 AM
here is the best shot i can get. what ever they are cant wait to go get some guppies tonight.:goldfish: these are about quarter size. i doubt anyone can 100% ID them yet.

Onion01
06-17-2008, 10:26 AM
you mean the size of a quarter? That's small!

West1
06-17-2008, 10:30 AM
here is the best shot i can get. what ever they are cant wait to go get some guppies tonight.:goldfish: these are about quarter size. i doubt anyone can 100% ID them yet.

West up "X"
How are both of your doing? Mine are doing good (I think)
Yours dont have any freckles right? Mine do. Hopefully this is the diff between baby Armatus and Tat:naughty:

Dragon Hunter
06-17-2008, 10:33 AM
West up "X"
How are both of your doing? Mine are doing good (I think)
Yours dont have any freckles right? Mine do. Hopefully this is the diff between baby Armatus and Tat:naughty:

Sup E. so far so good i think. never kept this type of fish before. i wont be able to get them feeders till after work today.

West1
06-17-2008, 10:55 AM
Sup E. so far so good i think. never kept this type of fish before. i wont be able to get them feeders till after work today.

Yeah me too. i see a lot of Tat side effects on my 2 pcs. Hopefully I am wrong:D

Just took a good look at your 2nd pic and I noticed the Freckles on yours too:D

Looking at the spot behind the gills... Im more than 75% positive they are Tats. Armatus have a thiner/longer one and Tats have a thicker and more rounded dark spot (dont know what it is called:D)

G/L Bigg dogg:naughty:

DB junkie
06-17-2008, 11:14 AM
We need pics of lil Tats....... That's the problem.To me the overly large fins make me lean towards Armatus. I mean even in the recent posted pics I see a huge similarity to my guy when he was small and the pics X posted...Other problem..... Do Tats grow at the same rate up to say 5-6 inches?

West1
06-17-2008, 11:17 AM
We need pics of lil Tats....... That's the problem.To me the overly large fins make me lean towards Armatus. I mean even in the recent posted pics I see a huge similarity to my guy when he was small and the pics X posted...Other problem..... Do Tats grow at the same rate up to say 5-6 inches?

Good point on the growth??? I would think that they would grow faster than Tats at all cost. Especially when they go threw their growth spur:naughty:

I tried doing a mill diff google searches for young Tats, and nothing:cry:

JD7.62
06-17-2008, 11:31 AM
Ask and you shall receive...

http://opefe.com/images/HtatuaiaBaby.jpg

West1
06-17-2008, 11:54 AM
Ask and you shall receive...

http://opefe.com/images/HtatuaiaBaby.jpg

Thats a cool looking Tat. Mine looks like that... but more older (freckles are fadding away). Although I ran into a fishbase info and there are suppos 4 locations where Tats are found. Brazil, columbia, venezuela and peru. I wonder where these Armatus/Tats came from? Also where your little monster is from?

Thanks for the pics:headbang2

JD7.62
06-17-2008, 11:56 AM
That fish is not mine but the pic is from OPEFE.

Armatus also have a very very wide range and are not restricted to Venezuala like often thought.

R1_Ridah
06-17-2008, 11:58 AM
here was a site in the PAST selling what was titled as ARMATUS. Clearly they are not and is a TAT

http://www.aquadesignz.com/fresh.html

However...for an Armatus hope here is a link...

http://taro0616.exblog.jp/615585/

use babblefish to change text to english.

Dragon Hunter
06-17-2008, 12:05 PM
here was a site in the PAST selling what was titled as ARMATUS. Clearly they are not and is a TAT

http://www.aquadesignz.com/fresh.html

However...for an Armatus hope here is a link...

http://taro0616.exblog.jp/615585/

use babblefish to change text to english.

http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200602/03/58/f0009758_1046887.jpg

mine always has his head to the floor. does that mean anything? i never see it swim upright and staright like in the this pic.

R1_Ridah
06-17-2008, 12:06 PM
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200602/03/58/f0009758_1046887.jpg

mine always has his head to the floor. does that mean anything? i never see it swim upright and staright like in the this pic.

YUP.. TAT's has a different stance than ARMATUS.

TATS swim/hover with the head towards the bottom practically all the time. I was going to make that comment about your picture.

West1
06-17-2008, 12:13 PM
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200602/03/58/f0009758_1046887.jpg

mine always has his head to the floor. does that mean anything? i never see it swim upright and staright like in the this pic.

YUP.. TAT's has a different stance than ARMATUS.

Never owned an Armatus, but it looks to be the same stance from a Tat and Armatus. At level?

TATS swim/hover with the head towards the bottom practically all the time. I was going to make that comment about your picture.

Dont worry X... it is just feeling out the bare bottom of the tank. My big Tats did the same for a few days cause of the reflection of the glass. Every here and there they would snap at the floor to bite the reflection

Here is an old pic of the Tats that John owns now. Just guessing??... but I would think Tat or Armatus would do this on a barebottom glass tank (like I said though... I think:D)??

R1_Ridah
06-17-2008, 12:33 PM
Here's a picture of when i had a few tats with my Armatus's.

The Armatus is in the lower right hand corner. Everyone else in the foreground are TATS.

West1
06-17-2008, 12:59 PM
Here's a picture of when i had a few tats with my Armatus's.

The Armatus is in the lower right hand corner. Everyone else in the foreground are TATS.

Yeah, the back fin on my little guys are more pointy than round like a birds eye view pair of cheecks:naughty:

channarox
06-17-2008, 10:16 PM
i think those are tats.
i dont think baby armatus got the freckles.
this is exciting. :D

vamptrev
06-17-2008, 11:50 PM
im leaning twards tats now..... :screwy:

Cohazard
06-18-2008, 1:34 AM
so, are baby tats worth $50?

jlnguyen74
06-18-2008, 2:22 AM
so, are baby tats worth $50?
You can get 7"-8" for $50.00, and same size Armatus for $350.00, if there is one available, so $50.00 is affordable to gamble ;)
Does anyone have a picture of 1"-2" Armatus to compare if they have speckles like Tat? I saw baby Scomb not too long ago, look pretty much the same, except the tail is small and round

DB junkie
06-18-2008, 11:04 AM
Anyone want to venture to guess how long it takes to get a Tat the size of a quarter to 7-8 inches? My pics are at 2.5 inches.Absolutly no freckles whatsoever.

jlnguyen74
06-18-2008, 11:35 AM
If this is picture of baby Armatus, then :woot: :woot:

DB junkie
06-18-2008, 1:13 PM
No. You have allready exceeded your quota on Armatus. Please ship one to me.I'de be lying if I said that I thought that looked like a Tat. But what do I know? I live in Iowa.

West1
06-18-2008, 2:33 PM
No. You have allready exceeded your quota on Armatus. Please ship one to me.I'de be lying if I said that I thought that looked like a Tat. But what do I know? I live in Iowa.

:ROFL:Funny

I can say that my little guys are showing a Slight, Slight tint or Orange on the top little fin. Just to give a little update. Any one else?:D

channarox
06-18-2008, 2:36 PM
the adipose fine?

AttackFish
06-18-2008, 2:45 PM
Gotta question for you guys.
I know scombs barely ever get to 12''.

But how big to tats and armatus really get?
Whats the growth rate?

West1
06-18-2008, 3:05 PM
the adipose fine?

The smallest fin on the top of their body?
It is the tail, the little fin and then the top fin... the little fin is the one Im talking about. There is a slight orange in it... whatever that means:D
Tat/Armatus... Im happy:headbang2

Bsixxx
06-18-2008, 3:07 PM
So where are all the pics of everyones Hydrolycus at??

I want to see them so i can tell rich to bring me one or not..;)

worrut
06-18-2008, 3:45 PM
sorry i used my iphone ..so,this is the best
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/IMG_0088-1-1.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/IMG_0086.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/IMG_0087-1.jpg

DB junkie
06-18-2008, 5:03 PM
Gotta question for you guys.
I know scombs barely ever get to 12''.

But how big to tats and armatus really get?
Whats the growth rate?

Armatus with proper tank size I say you should be able to get to 3 foot. Wild they get 4. You'll easily see them over a foot within the 1st year. They need LOTS of room though. Some will say they'de be fine in a decent size tank (2 foot wide) like say a 180. I don't believe that. Mine wanted out of its 180 by the time it hit a foot.Tats if you do some research you'll score a few pics of tank raised 16-18 inchers. These are across seas. To MY knowledge the biggest one I have heard of here in the states was just barely over a foot. They grow stupid slow. If you can muster 1/2 in per month out of them you are running with the best of em. I definetly believe with patience they are not tough to get to that 1.5 foot mark. BUT it's probobly gonna take many many years. But plus side with Tats is you can easily keep a shoal together whereas Armatus are usually loners.

channarox
06-18-2008, 7:06 PM
The smallest fin on the top of their body?
It is the tail, the little fin and then the top fin... the little fin is the one Im talking about. There is a slight orange in it... whatever that means:D
Tat/Armatus... Im happy:headbang2
:headbang2
thats the spirit!

channarox
06-18-2008, 7:07 PM
Gotta question for you guys.
I know scombs barely ever get to 12''.

But how big to tats and armatus really get?
Whats the growth rate?

tats usually up to 18 inches.
growth is very slow.
armatus gets up to 4 feet,in the wild.
grows fast.
both fish are new in the hobby so one cannot say for sure how big theyll get.

Dragon Hunter
06-18-2008, 8:44 PM
3 day update. just gobbled up some guppies. @ this point im calling it a TATmatus

BigJ
06-18-2008, 8:47 PM
I see aqua scape has armatus do you belive they are real i have not delt with them?

AttackFish
06-18-2008, 9:13 PM
tats usually up to 18 inches.
growth is very slow.
armatus gets up to 4 feet,in the wild.
grows fast.
both fish are new in the hobby so one cannot say for sure how big theyll get.

From what you and DB said, I got a good idea on growth rate.
I'm moving some fish around and will have an empty 55G soon and was thinking of growing some tats or scombs.
I've hears scombs die before 12'' most of the time? Is that true?

vamptrev
06-18-2008, 11:25 PM
dosnt anyone have a good camera?!?!?!?!

xaznkewlguyx
06-19-2008, 1:02 AM
the tail on one of mine is getting turning a dark color. i can't snap a picture of it though these guys are extremely active and fast.

does that help at all?

jlnguyen74
06-19-2008, 1:14 AM
3 day update. just gobbled up some guppies. @ this point im calling it a TATmatus
ArTatus :WHOA:

dosnt anyone have a good camera?!?!?!?!

I spent all my money on fish, so I just have a decent camera with zero photographic skill :grinno:

xaznkewlguyx
06-19-2008, 1:23 AM
guess i'll share my pictures too.. this is the best i could do..couldn't get a picture of the tail that is turning grayish.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617010.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617013.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617018.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617031.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618003.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618005.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618007.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618012.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618013.jpg

Cohazard
06-19-2008, 1:32 AM
Nice Tats!!

xaznkewlguyx
06-19-2008, 1:40 AM
Nice Tats!!

tats for sure?

jlnguyen74
06-19-2008, 5:58 AM
Alright, some pics of mine for you guys to check out.. Just keep an open mind, these guys don't represent the whole group I picked up, or the whole batch Rich has ;)

channarox
06-19-2008, 6:27 AM
tats for sure?

looks like tats.
but only time will tell.

channarox
06-19-2008, 6:28 AM
Alright, some pics of mine for you guys to check out.. Just keep an open mind, these guys don't represent the whole group I picked up, or the whole batch Rich has ;)

first two pics lok armatusy and least few look tatish.
hmm....

jlnguyen74
06-19-2008, 9:11 AM
first two pics lok armatusy and least few look tatish.
hmm....
First 3 pics are same fish, last 3 pics are same fish, but difference from the one in first 3 pics

jlnguyen74
06-19-2008, 9:13 AM
guess i'll share my pictures too.. this is the best i could do..couldn't get a picture of the tail that is turning grayish.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617010.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617013.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617018.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/617031.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618003.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618005.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618007.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618012.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/618013.jpg

Time will tell, but the one in your last 5 pics look very promising :)

JD7.62
06-19-2008, 9:19 AM
The first one does look promising. Notice how the angle of the jaw is way less then the second one?!

channarox
06-19-2008, 10:57 AM
First 3 pics are same fish, last 3 pics are same fish, but difference from the one in first 3 pics

oops.
thats what i meant. :D

HugeGhost
06-19-2008, 1:17 PM
I was thinking if there are any black spots anywhere then they are probably tats since the baby 1 inch tats are completely covered in them and then loose them. So are there any payaras in the batch with absolutely no spots anywhere? Then again i never saw a baby armatus, but i think they have clear bodys?

xaznkewlguyx
06-19-2008, 2:57 PM
Time will tell, but the one in your last 5 pics look very promising :)

lol love the avatar! :ROFL:

vamptrev
06-19-2008, 6:52 PM
if they are tats, i cant belive how much they are eating. ive never seen a tat fill himself like that b4...

xaznkewlguyx
06-19-2008, 10:29 PM
if they are tats, i cant belive how much they are eating. ive never seen a tat fill himself like that b4...

mmm one of mine just ate a feeder almost the same size as it.

channarox
06-19-2008, 10:56 PM
I was thinking if there are any black spots anywhere then they are probably tats since the baby 1 inch tats are completely covered in them and then loose them. So are there any payaras in the batch with absolutely no spots anywhere? Then again i never saw a baby armatus, but i think they have clear bodys?

from the pics ive seen of baby armatus,
they dont have any spots.

channarox
06-19-2008, 10:56 PM
mmm one of mine just ate a feeder almost the same size as it.

:eek:
tat and armatus hybrids!!

xaznkewlguyx
06-19-2008, 11:10 PM
from the pics ive seen of baby armatus,
they dont have any spots.

I'm not sure if this helps but i found this picture when i google'd it.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/post-327-1162539282.jpg

if you look closely there are small spots.. hMMmMmMm

channarox
06-19-2008, 11:53 PM
ive see nthat pic.
i meant those big spots that baby tats get.
both armatus and tats get those tiny spots.

jlnguyen74
06-19-2008, 11:59 PM
The problem is, no one has a picture of 1" Armatus to see if they have freckles. Even scombs have freckles at 1". BTW, some of my baby "Armatus" ate another one :WHOA: I found two dead ones with half of their body gone :screwy: My casualty is 10 already :irked:

xaznkewlguyx
06-20-2008, 12:25 AM
The problem is, no one has a picture of 1" Armatus to see if they have freckles. Even scombs have freckles at 1". BTW, some of my baby "Armatus" ate another one :WHOA: I found two dead ones with half of their body gone :screwy: My casualty is 10 already :irked:

agreeed :) we can always wait for the pics from aquascape though.

milokai
06-20-2008, 1:58 AM
man!!!its look like armatus...

jlnguyen74
06-20-2008, 4:36 AM
lol love the avatar! :ROFL:
You like dats? :D

West1
06-20-2008, 8:50 AM
Time will tell, but the one in your last 5 pics look very promising :)

I have one just like that, that I think is promising. He ate 4 feeders and looked like he was going to start pooping live food. He swims like crazy and swims up top too:screwy:.

The problem is, no one has a picture of 1" Armatus to see if they have freckles. Even scombs have freckles at 1". BTW, some of my baby "Armatus" ate another one :WHOA: I found two dead ones with half of their body gone :screwy: My casualty is 10 already :irked:

I also see headless guppies everywhere:screwy::naughty:


Hopefully one of us have a winner:headbang2

jlnguyen74
06-20-2008, 10:42 AM
How about this one? Winner? What do y'all think? BTW, these guys could eat until they drop dead. :screwy: They're worst than Piranha!

channarox
06-20-2008, 10:57 AM
The problem is, no one has a picture of 1" Armatus to see if they have freckles. Even scombs have freckles at 1". BTW, some of my baby "Armatus" ate another one :WHOA: I found two dead ones with half of their body gone :screwy: My casualty is 10 already :irked:

WHOA!

jlnguyen74
06-20-2008, 11:00 AM
WHOA!
That probably one reason why they don't come around too often. Actually casualty is eleven as we speak.

channarox
06-20-2008, 11:02 AM
im starting to think armatus. :D

West1
06-20-2008, 11:25 AM
How about this one? Winner? What do y'all think? BTW, these guys could eat until they drop dead. :screwy: They're worst than Piranha!

Whats going on in the tank J? Is it aggression or just dying? If it aggression, try a devider.
My 2 guys like to hang out in a floating Anubia. I also took out the 90* from the outlet on the Rena and im letting the flow breack the surface to make a lot of air bubbles in the tank. So far, only 6pcs of guppies have died for no reason from the 5dz I bought (thats pretty damb good for me)
I also dont have a light on the tank, but near a window to get med light.
So far so good for me... and they eat like champs:WHOA:. I am very impressed with their eating habbits... if you move, your ganna try to get swallowed:ROFL:

jdiidy271
06-20-2008, 11:30 AM
nice guys!!!!!

jlnguyen74
06-20-2008, 12:18 PM
Whats going on in the tank J? Is it aggression or just dying? If it aggression, try a devider.
My 2 guys like to hang out in a floating Anubia. I also took out the 90* from the outlet on the Rena and im letting the flow breack the surface to make a lot of air bubbles in the tank. So far, only 6pcs of guppies have died for no reason from the 5dz I bought (thats pretty damb good for me)
I also dont have a light on the tank, but near a window to get med light.
So far so good for me... and they eat like champs:WHOA:. I am very impressed with their eating habbits... if you move, your ganna try to get swallowed:ROFL:
Big guys killed/ate lil' guys. :irked: A couple of big guys died with no reason, unless they ate till dead (the belly looks full) :screwy: I put a divider this morning, to seperate big guys with lil' guys. We'll see :headbang2 Where did you buy Anubia? I'm looking for some

West1
06-20-2008, 12:22 PM
Big guys killed/ate lil' guys. :irked: A couple of big guys died with no reason, unless they ate till dead (the belly looks full) :screwy: I put a divider this morning, to seperate big guys with lil' guys. We'll see :headbang2 Where did you buy Anubia? I'm looking for some
By my place. There is about 5-7 leaves for about 10bucks (might be a lil less) and they can order Pots for 25.00 (Though I have not seen the pot size yet, but will order some soon. Cause my 300 goes up on Sunday:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:hea dbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:hea dbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:hea dbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:hea dbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:hea dbang2)

Pwn
06-20-2008, 12:34 PM
Mine have just landed. I was sent more than I payed for :naughty:

I have 4 in a 55g....hope this works out. So far, 3 are hanging out together in a rock and 1 is chasing ghost shrimp around:headbang2


I'll get pics up tonight when I get home from work. My camera skills suck, but at least the new guys will be documented.

Here's hoping for Armatus!:cheers:

And thank you Rich; wonderful job shipping and one helluva good deal:D

West1
06-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Mine have just landed. I was sent more than I payed for :naughty:

Hopefuly it was a blessing:D


Glad to hear they arrived in good health:D. I put guppies in and with in 1 sec, they were surfacing looking for guppies. They did not hesitate to snap multiple times till they cought one. They it was arse from there. Their bellies were so full, I tought they were ganna explode:WHOA:. But I guess they enjoy being full more than enjoying their food:D

Congrads big dogg

Pwn
06-20-2008, 12:44 PM
I think I'm going to do daily water changes and keep it stocked with a ton of tetras or mosquito fish. Hopefully they get some size on them soon :)

West1
06-20-2008, 1:02 PM
I think I'm going to do daily water changes and keep it stocked with a ton of tetras or mosquito fish. Hopefully they get some size on them soon :)

Thats what Im doing. Except... Im feeding the guppies beef heart (just a lil, but nothing else), so when the Payaras eat the guppies... hopefully they can digest the undigested beef heart too:naughty: (have no Idea if it works, but worth a try. Also maybe it will be a taste that the Payaras will get used to:naughty: so I can get them on beef heart)

xaznkewlguyx
06-20-2008, 3:13 PM
you guys should try fatheads/minnows. I bought 15 guppies and 15 fatheads and they seem to like to eat the fatheads more. or maybe the fatheads are just slower.

either way the fatheads filll them up MUCH more than the guppies.

Dragon Hunter
06-20-2008, 3:20 PM
you guys should try fatheads/minnows. I bought 15 guppies and 15 fatheads and they seem to like to eat the fatheads more. or maybe the fatheads are just slower.

either way the fatheads filll them up MUCH more than the guppies.
1 of mine ate a fathead. choked and croaked:headbang2

xaznkewlguyx
06-20-2008, 3:23 PM
1 of mine ate a fathead. choked and croaked:headbang2

died? eek..

JD7.62
06-20-2008, 3:33 PM
It shouldnt be long before we start knowing for sure. My armatus was growing nearly an inch a week after I first got him!!

West1
06-20-2008, 4:41 PM
you guys should try fatheads/minnows. I bought 15 guppies and 15 fatheads and they seem to like to eat the fatheads more. or maybe the fatheads are just slower.

either way the fatheads filll them up MUCH more than the guppies.

That was my original plan, till I realized how big the minnows were:D

It shouldnt be long before we start knowing for sure. My armatus was growing nearly an inch a week after I first got him!!

:jaw:1 inch a week:WHOA:. In that case, I def got Tats. Im sure I would have notice 1/8 of a diff from Mondays purchase. To me they look the same (dang I should of measured when I first got them:D). At that growth rate, Im sure someone will be posting how big their Tat/Armatus has gotten:naughty:

Shoot, I hope I quote myself:ROFL::D
I doubt it, if I had look this good, Id be playing the Lotto:D:headbang2:popcorn:

JD7.62
06-20-2008, 6:32 PM
He went from 4" to 12" in a little over three months.

Pwn
06-20-2008, 11:21 PM
Petco has a **** load of tetras and others on sale @ 5 for $5. Just cleaned them out of rosie reds and neons. Should be an interesting Saturday morning :)

Pwn
06-21-2008, 12:53 AM
I couldn't take a good photo if my life depended on it :(

I fail at picture taking

I could show you the blurry dots that are my fish, but I don't see the point.

channarox
06-21-2008, 1:09 AM
:popcorn:
i cant wait to see how these guys turn out.
ya'll should post more pics. :D

worrut
06-21-2008, 6:12 AM
i'm selling all 5, any one want them
i just realize that it never going to catch up with my 12" armatus
ohh so stupid.....
pm me

xaznkewlguyx
06-21-2008, 7:24 AM
:popcorn:
i cant wait to see how these guys turn out.
ya'll should post more pics. :D

ask and you shall recieve. :)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620005.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620008.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620013.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620018.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620019.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620032.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620035.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620036.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620037.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620017.jpg

Looks like those freckles are going away.... hmMmMM..



Looking your fish is even better when you are buzzed. :)

West1
06-21-2008, 8:00 AM
ask and you shall recieve. :)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620005.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620008.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620013.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620018.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620019.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620032.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620035.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620036.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620037.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620017.jpg

Looks like those freckles are going away.... hmMmMM..



Looking your fish is even better when you are buzzed. :)

Damb bratha.... some pics look promising and some look like Tat. How big is he? He looks pretty big to eating minnows:D (2 1/2-3"?)

JD7.62
06-21-2008, 11:02 AM
Thats an armatus for sure!

vamptrev
06-21-2008, 4:13 PM
Thats an armatus for sure!

its got to be! ive never seen a tat eat like that.

xaznkewlguyx
06-21-2008, 5:17 PM
Damb bratha.... some pics look promising and some look like Tat. How big is he? He looks pretty big to eating minnows:D (2 1/2-3"?)

he is a little over 2"..

well guys... lets keep our fingers crossed!!:popcorn:

Pwn
06-21-2008, 7:38 PM
These guys are growing fast! Im down to 12 neons out of 30 in less than a days time. One of the 4 payara is losing its tale...I'm guessing he will die. I started adding bloodworm cubes into the tank and they are scooping that up as well.

channarox
06-21-2008, 8:55 PM
ask and you shall recieve. :)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620005.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620008.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620013.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620018.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620019.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620032.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620035.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620036.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620037.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/620017.jpg

Looks like those freckles are going away.... hmMmMM..



Looking your fish is even better when you are buzzed. :)

damn.
pic 5 is looking like an armatus.

Dragon Hunter
06-22-2008, 10:40 AM
here's a little update. its stomach is never empty.

rkc772
06-22-2008, 12:45 PM
nice pictures guys... :D

this is only my comment on the Hydrolycus sp. All of us can google and yahoo the Hydrolycus Armatus and tatanuaia on the internet. But good point raised by "John", no one has posted nor has shared their photo of a 1 inch to 2 inch armatus up to this date. We cannot based our decisions based on what is written on the internet, unless coming from a well documented source using science and not someone else's opinion. We may not know for a fact that all the Hydrolycus sp. can have spots on their face and body when newly born or at a very young age. Only 1 week has passed and the ones I have are starting to get more robust and bold on their body, spots are almost gone. If this does end to be Armatus for the people who bought earlier, that is a good knowledge base that at least we would know both Tatauaia and Armatus at a very young age have spots. If this ends up to be a Tatauaia then I can conclude that the Tatauaia does have spots and Armatus doesn't have any. I will wait until 1 of them that I am keeping will show concrete signs of being an armatus--it has spots as well but fading when it landed. ---- Again, this is my opinion and is not based on science. It is what you call "Hypothesis" :D

channarox
06-22-2008, 5:57 PM
i think someone had a 2 inch armatus...
cant recall who.

channarox
06-22-2008, 5:57 PM
here's a little update. its stomach is never empty.

looking good!

JD7.62
06-23-2008, 1:26 PM
Let get another update people. Armatus grow fast so we should be able to start telling the difference, if only by growth rate, at this point!

jlnguyen74
06-23-2008, 1:32 PM
Let get another update people. Armatus grow fast so we should be able to start telling the difference, if only by growth rate, at this point!
They growing fast alright :naughty: I'm afraid they're no longer $50.00 when I post update pics on mine :D Let me make a 3rd trip first :naughty: Wait, I already made a 3rd trip yesterday... Well, 4th trip then

JD7.62
06-23-2008, 1:42 PM
Dude stop getting all my armatus! :irked: Im ordering five as soon as Rich gets that WYSIWYG thing going!!

worrut
06-23-2008, 2:30 PM
my hit 3" already

xaznkewlguyx
06-23-2008, 3:03 PM
mine went shy and now they hide. :irked:

West1
06-23-2008, 4:36 PM
my hit 3" already

ONE OF MINE CHECKED OUT LAST NIGHT BUT THE OTHER ONE IS STILL LOOKING GOOD. I WOULD SAY MINE IS ALSO ABOUT 3", so he might have grown 1/2-1" since I got him 2 Sundays ago???
Also on the top of his small top fin, he is getting a black little Dot?? Do you think it is a Tat?:D

jlnguyen74
06-24-2008, 12:42 AM
Dude stop getting all my armatus! :irked: Im ordering five as soon as Rich gets that WYSIWYG thing going!!
Just place the order, or you will get WYSIAMTT (What You See Is An M T Tank) :ROFL::ROFL: They look very good!!!

worrut
06-24-2008, 2:23 AM
ONE OF MINE CHECKED OUT LAST NIGHT BUT THE OTHER ONE IS STILL LOOKING GOOD. I WOULD SAY MINE IS ALSO ABOUT 3", so he might have grown 1/2-1" since I got him 2 Sundays ago???
Also on the top of his small top fin, he is getting a black little Dot?? Do you think it is a Tat?:D

3 of mine get really orange on an adipose .hope so
look like on the left one ;););)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC04149.jpg

channarox
06-24-2008, 3:10 AM
:popcorn:

West1
06-24-2008, 7:57 AM
3 of mine get really orange on an adipose .hope so
look like on the left one ;););)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC04149.jpg

Those look huge. What size are they and those case from Rich?

channarox
06-24-2008, 8:04 AM
i think those are old pics.
not from rich.

Dragon Hunter
06-24-2008, 2:49 PM
Aquascape just posted their pics of Armatus from their suppliers. Looks just like ours. Could all these suppliers not know what they selling?

xaznkewlguyx
06-24-2008, 3:46 PM
3 of mine get really orange on an adipose .hope so
look like on the left one ;););)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC04149.jpg

both of mine have that orange fin also..:grinno:

worrut
06-24-2008, 3:47 PM
update 3"
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/IMG_0120.jpg

unknownuza13
06-24-2008, 3:50 PM
Those last ones you just posted Worrut look like armatus to me.

worrut
06-24-2008, 3:54 PM
Those last ones you just posted Worrut look like armatus to me.

sorry guy i used an iphone,
i think mine would be a little bigger than you guy ,because i paid extra for a bigger one :grinno: :grinno:

Dragon Hunter
06-24-2008, 3:58 PM
sorry guy i used an iphone,
i think mine would be a little bigger than you guy ,because i paid extra for a bigger one :grinno: :grinno:

are you still selling yours?

jlnguyen74
06-24-2008, 4:23 PM
Aquascape just posted their pics of Armatus from their suppliers. Looks just like ours. Could all these suppliers not know what they selling?
They could be all from the same place :D

xaznkewlguyx
06-24-2008, 4:27 PM
They could be all from the same place :D

that is my thoughts exactly, its not a coincidence that some of the vendors are getting them in at the same time..

West1
06-24-2008, 4:31 PM
that is my thoughts exactly, its not a coincidence that some of the vendors are getting them in at the same time..

I dont know about some of you guys, but Im ganna put a devider in my Temp tank with the last Armatus to make the other side a QT tank for guppies. I think my last guy ate a bad one that made him check out quick. One day swiming like crazy and the next day stuck to the filter:cry:
I am just going to add a lot of salt and slowly feed for a week. Then after a week let them go and add a new batch to the other side in the QT.

What do you guys think (I have no other tanks available for feeders:irked:)?

channarox
06-24-2008, 6:08 PM
update 3"
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/IMG_0120.jpg

:naughty:
looking like armatus to me.

channarox
06-24-2008, 6:09 PM
I dont know about some of you guys, but Im ganna put a devider in my Temp tank with the last Armatus to make the other side a QT tank for guppies. I think my last guy ate a bad one that made him check out quick. One day swiming like crazy and the next day stuck to the filter:cry:
I am just going to add a lot of salt and slowly feed for a week. Then after a week let them go and add a new batch to the other side in the QT.

What do you guys think (I have no other tanks available for feeders:irked:)?

they can still spread disease.

Dragon Hunter
06-24-2008, 6:11 PM
:naughty:
looking like armatus to me.

dude u should stop posting till your 100% sure. i think you have gone back and fourth whether they are tat or armatus like 20 times since Rich posted. :ROFL::ROFL: your like a yoyo mang.

channarox
06-24-2008, 6:12 PM
LOL
thats because some look like tats and some look like armatus.

xaznkewlguyx
06-25-2008, 12:27 AM
just snapped a few real quick..

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2001.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2002.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2003.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2008.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2009.jpg




I went downstairs to eat dinner and i guess one of them made his own dinner :)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2010.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2012.jpg

jlnguyen74
06-25-2008, 12:38 AM
just snapped a few real quick..

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2001.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2002.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2003.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2008.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2009.jpg




I went downstairs to eat dinner and i guess one of them made his own dinner :)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2010.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/800a2012.jpg
They look so good, don't they? ;) Jackpot, baby!

jlnguyen74
06-25-2008, 12:40 AM
LOL
thats because some look like tats and some look like armatus.
First, most look like Tats. Now, some look like tats and some look like Armatus. You are worst than John Kerry :ROFL:

jlnguyen74
06-25-2008, 12:42 AM
I dont know about some of you guys, but Im ganna put a devider in my Temp tank with the last Armatus to make the other side a QT tank for guppies. I think my last guy ate a bad one that made him check out quick. One day swiming like crazy and the next day stuck to the filter:cry:
I am just going to add a lot of salt and slowly feed for a week. Then after a week let them go and add a new batch to the other side in the QT.

What do you guys think (I have no other tanks available for feeders:irked:)?
It's the filter that check your fish out, not the guppies. I have to keep guppies in my tank 24/7, or someone will get killed.

rkc772
06-25-2008, 1:04 AM
It's the filter that check your fish out, not the guppies. I have to keep guppies in my tank 24/7, or someone will get killed.

I second that.. "West1" do not leave your tank empty without any feeders... you do not want them to snap on the other fish you have. good luck guys.. I hope the best comes along with the grow outs. :D

xaznkewlguyx
06-25-2008, 1:09 AM
They look so good, don't they? ;) Jackpot, baby!

:cheers:

Datnoid101
06-25-2008, 3:27 AM
Can anybody verify this fish on what it is?
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/sinisterj808/6-24-08021.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/sinisterj808/6-24-08020.jpg

channarox
06-25-2008, 5:15 AM
First, most look like Tats. Now, some look like tats and some look like Armatus. You are worst than John Kerry :ROFL:

most look like tats,and the rest look like armatus. :D

channarox
06-25-2008, 5:16 AM
Can anybody verify this fish on what it is?
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/sinisterj808/6-24-08021.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/sinisterj808/6-24-08020.jpg

hydrolycus scomberoides.

JD7.62
06-25-2008, 8:03 AM
No, its a tat.

channarox
06-25-2008, 8:05 AM
is it?
looks more like a scomb to me cause of the tail.
the adipose isnt orangey either.
plus the spot behind the gill is roundish.

West1
06-25-2008, 8:08 AM
I second that.. "West1" do not leave your tank empty without any feeders... you do not want them to snap on the other fish you have. good luck guys.. I hope the best comes along with the grow outs. :D

Never been without feeders. Just bought another 4Dz with about 6pcs left in the tank. Only thing is I see he is not eating and is just in a corner breathing heavy. I think he had a bad batch of guppies:cry: Looks like he will check out too. I do H20 changes 2xs a week, 50% each time (in a ten gallon right now)
I dont know about some of you guys, but do you think they have some disease/parasite since they are wild cought? I am trying to treat mine now (hope he wont die from the guppies or QT tank)

Hope it survives cause mine looks like Armatus... looks exactly like the baby just posted with the round tail:drool::cry:

JD7.62
06-25-2008, 8:57 AM
Channarox, you must have better vision to me cause I dont see a round humeral spot and the fish's tail looks tatish to me, as well as his overall color and body shape.. :confused:

West1...four dozen feeders in a ten gallon?! Your water went to hell I bet!

jlnguyen74
06-25-2008, 12:00 PM
Can anybody verify this fish on what it is?
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/sinisterj808/6-24-08021.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/sinisterj808/6-24-08020.jpg

I'm 50/50 between Tat and Scomb. The tail looks too small to be Tat. Besides, young Scomb does have the orange tint on the body. Only when they're older, they turn black

jlnguyen74
06-25-2008, 12:08 PM
Never been without feeders. Just bought another 4Dz with about 6pcs left in the tank. Only thing is I see he is not eating and is just in a corner breathing heavy. I think he had a bad batch of guppies:cry: Looks like he will check out too. I do H20 changes 2xs a week, 50% each time (in a ten gallon right now)
I dont know about some of you guys, but do you think they have some disease/parasite since they are wild cought? I am trying to treat mine now (hope he wont die from the guppies or QT tank)

Hope it survives cause mine looks like Armatus... looks exactly like the baby just posted with the round tail:drool::cry:

You may overload the bio in your tank with those guppy. Most of the time, my babies died from either don't eat (rosies are too big) or got eaten by bigger one.. I do water change every other day, or every other two days, 30%-40%. Fish does come with parasite, but the chance they got killed by parasite is much less than the chance they got killed by human :ROFL: Beside, the parasite only takes over when we make an error, like keep the temp below normal.

vamptrev
06-25-2008, 12:29 PM
I'm 50/50 between Tat and Scomb. The tail looks too small to be Tat. Besides, young Scomb does have the orange tint on the body. Only when they're older, they turn black
scomb

JD7.62
06-25-2008, 12:42 PM
Can some one upload that pic again using MFK? I cant see it now that Im at work. I looked at it early this morning and I swear it was a tat!

jlnguyen74
06-25-2008, 12:57 PM
Can some one upload that pic again using MFK? I cant see it now that Im at work. I looked at it early this morning and I swear it was a tat!
Here you go.... Scomb most likely...

JD7.62
06-25-2008, 1:48 PM
Thanks for the upload!

I still say that is a tat, blow it up and you can see how big his tail really is as most of it hasnt colors up plus there is no spot shaped humeral spot. Im 99% certain that is a tat!

West1
06-25-2008, 1:54 PM
You may overload the bio in your tank with those guppy. Most of the time, my babies died from either don't eat (rosies are too big) or got eaten by bigger one.. I do water change every other day, or every other two days, 30%-40%. Fish does come with parasite, but the chance they got killed by parasite is much less than the chance they got killed by human :ROFL: Beside, the parasite only takes over when we make an error, like keep the temp below normal.

Thats true, I have not checked the Params:screwy:. $hoot!
Ganna have to figure something else out soon

KRSwop1
06-25-2008, 3:23 PM
Thanks for the upload!

I still say that is a tat, blow it up and you can see how big his tail really is as most of it hasnt colors up plus there is no spot shaped humeral spot. Im 99% certain that is a tat!

100% scomb.

JD7.62
06-25-2008, 3:41 PM
How can you tell? There is no visible humeral marking and its tail is huge!

DB junkie
06-25-2008, 4:31 PM
Scomb x2. Body shape.

West1
06-25-2008, 4:33 PM
Im jumping on the Scomb wagon too.
I think cause of his color, body shape, and shape of his jaw. And maybe the way he is chilling in the first pick at almost 90*, the way most scombs stand

channarox
06-25-2008, 5:57 PM
like i said...
scomb.

benzjamin13
06-25-2008, 6:03 PM
I'm impressed with you guys! I can't tell any of them apart really.

Pwn
06-26-2008, 1:49 AM
O.k. here are some of my crappy pictures. Some of these actually came out decent for me...I found the zoom button and the setting to take moving pictures :)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49044&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49044&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49043&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49043&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49042&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49042&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49041&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49041&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49040&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49040&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49039&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49039&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49038&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49038&size=1)

Asian_Redtail_Catfish
06-26-2008, 1:53 AM
I know a person who is selling an 14 inch Armatus for $650 with pics to confirm.....I dont know the person personally but it an Armatus..He is willing to ship also..

DrZacharyus
06-26-2008, 2:23 AM
third pic down DEF looks like an armatus

Dragon Hunter
06-26-2008, 3:31 AM
please id
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channarox
06-26-2008, 4:11 AM
O.k. here are some of my crappy pictures. Some of these actually came out decent for me...I found the zoom button and the setting to take moving pictures :)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49044&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49044&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49043&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49043&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49042&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49042&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49041&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49041&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49040&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49040&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49039&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49039&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49038&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49038&size=1)

:drool::drool::drool:
:naughty::naughty::naughty:

channarox
06-26-2008, 4:12 AM
please id
zbTzJwwAHE4

armatus.

Bsixxx
06-26-2008, 4:15 AM
O.k. here are some of my crappy pictures. Some of these actually came out decent for me...I found the zoom button and the setting to take moving pictures :)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49044&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49044&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49043&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49043&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49042&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49042&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49041&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49041&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49040&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49040&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49039&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49039&size=1)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49038&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=49038&size=1)




in pic 1,3 and the one in the back of 5 are 100% armatus, you deffinatly have tat also

West1
06-26-2008, 10:05 AM
My little guy has not eaten in 3 days now:irked:

I hope he dont check out and takes a chomp out of one of the feeders

jlnguyen74
06-26-2008, 11:14 AM
My little guy has not eaten in 3 days now:irked:

I hope he dont check out and takes a chomp out of one of the feeders
He probably ate, but you didn't see it. It's hard for payara that size not eating for 3 days and still survive

West1
06-26-2008, 11:18 AM
He probably ate, but you didn't see it. It's hard for payara that size not eating for 3 days and still survive

He got stuck to the filter twice during a water change yesterday:irked:
When I try to suck whatever is in the tank, he dont move. It looks like he is having contractions in his stomach. He keeps pumping and arching his back:screwy::screwy::screwy:
I pray he makes it cause it dont look good. And I do have to say I feel pretty damb good about him being an Armatus

jlnguyen74
06-26-2008, 12:16 PM
He got stuck to the filter twice during a water change yesterday:irked:
When I try to suck whatever is in the tank, he dont move. It looks like he is having contractions in his stomach. He keeps pumping and arching his back:screwy::screwy::screwy:
I pray he makes it cause it dont look good. And I do have to say I feel pretty damb good about him being an Armatus

That's why I only use sponge filter, get all the dirty stuff by net, and scoop water with 32 oz soda cup for w/c. They are too small. Take good care of your baby. I observed mine for a good amount of time yesterday, and went to bet with a big smile on my face :naughty: :naughty: Too bad, Rich sold out :( Oh well, there's always next year (like my Lakers) :D

Pwn
06-26-2008, 12:25 PM
I have an ac110 and an emp400 on that 55g that they are in. They haven't been stuck on the filter once. Along with keeping the feeders in there (really just as a safety net) I feed bloodworm cubes at night and mysis shrimp cubes in the morning. I have no idea if they eat that or not, but the feeders love it :) And I'm constantly adding new feeders:)

Also I've only been doing 25% w/c twice a week...well it's only been about a week but that's how it has been going so far.

Hope your little guy pulls through west1

West1
06-26-2008, 12:27 PM
That's why I only use sponge filter, get all the dirty stuff by net, and scoop water with 32 oz soda cup for w/c. They are too small. Take good care of your baby. I observed mine for a good amount of time yesterday, and went to bet with a big smile on my face :naughty: :naughty: Too bad, Rich sold out :( Oh well, there's always next year (like my Lakers) :D

So how long do you think they can go with out eating?? 2 days...

For the last 3 days I have not seen a bump on in his stomach and this morning when the lights went on, he got scared and swam:D
But I dont see him eating, only the first day he swallowed 4 guppies and has not eaten since??

Oh, well... what can I do:(

West1
06-26-2008, 12:54 PM
I have an ac110 and an emp400 on that 55g that they are in. They haven't been stuck on the filter once. Along with keeping the feeders in there (really just as a safety net) I feed bloodworm cubes at night and mysis shrimp cubes in the morning. I have no idea if they eat that or not, but the feeders love it :) And I'm constantly adding new feeders:)

Also I've only been doing 25% w/c twice a week...well it's only been about a week but that's how it has been going so far.

Hope your little guy pulls through west1

Thanks, me to. For now his name is "Dont Die Foo":ROFL:

Do your little guys eat everyday? Or am I the only one with a fish that worries about Carbs?

Dragon Hunter
06-26-2008, 12:56 PM
I have an ac110 and an emp400 on that 55g that they are in. They haven't been stuck on the filter once. Along with keeping the feeders in there (really just as a safety net) I feed bloodworm cubes at night and mysis shrimp cubes in the morning. I have no idea if they eat that or not, but the feeders love it :) And I'm constantly adding new feeders:)

Also I've only been doing 25% w/c twice a week...well it's only been about a week but that's how it has been going so far.

Hope your little guy pulls through west1

in my 10g growout i got a ac70 and a small emperor. so far so good only guppies got sucked in before i covered the intake with a sponge.

West1
06-26-2008, 1:17 PM
in my 10g growout i got a ac70 and a small emperor. so far so good only guppies got sucked in before i covered the intake with a sponge.

Hey X, does your little guy eat a lot??
Trying to figure out whats wrong with my little guy

Dragon Hunter
06-26-2008, 1:20 PM
Hey X, does your little guy eat a lot??
Trying to figure out whats wrong with my little guy

never seen it on empty

West1
06-26-2008, 2:17 PM
never seen it on empty

:cry: then it dont look good for "Dont Die Foo":ROFL:

Dragon Hunter
06-26-2008, 2:27 PM
Hey X, does your little guy eat a lot??
Trying to figure out whats wrong with my little guy

even the one that didnt survive died with a fat belly.

West1
06-26-2008, 2:31 PM
even the one that didnt survive died with a fat belly.

Thanks big dogg, you made my day a lil brighter:cry::cry::cry::D

Or are you trying to tell me to make my own Forum called "Juvi Fish Keepers":ROFL:

jlnguyen74
06-26-2008, 6:08 PM
even the one that didnt survive died with a fat belly.

:ROFL::ROFL: I like this one :ROFL::ROFL: Some of mine died happy with a fat belly :ROFL::ROFL:

Thanks big dogg, you made my day a lil brighter:cry::cry::cry::D

Or are you trying to tell me to make my own Forum called "Juvi Fish Keepers":ROFL:

We probably nominate you for "Rookie of The Year," big dog :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

xaznkewlguyx
06-27-2008, 5:20 AM
snapped a few more..

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/627017.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/627014.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/627013.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/627004.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/627003.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chunghoang921/627002.jpg

Bsixxx
06-27-2008, 5:23 AM
looks promising
:)
all I am saying

West1
06-27-2008, 7:59 AM
:ROFL::ROFL: I like this one :ROFL::ROFL: Some of mine died happy with a fat belly :ROFL::ROFL:



We probably nominate you for "Rookie of The Year," big dog :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

:ROFL:... wait... jokes on you big dogg. The little bastard ate:headbang2:headbang2
Dont Die Foo aint ganna die soon fool:ROFL:. He had a nice little knot in his stomach (Dont want to speak to soon;))

looks promising
:)
all I am saying

x2... either way, Im happy with a Tat/Armatus:naughty:

DB junkie
06-27-2008, 12:18 PM
I just picked mine up.Woo hoo! That's all I gots to say. Rich is the man. I think I'll be changing this sig tomorrow.

West1
06-27-2008, 12:50 PM
I just picked mine up.Woo hoo! That's all I gots to say. Rich is the man. I think I'll be changing this sig tomorrow.

Nice:naughty:

Is it just me or can you see the little guys growing each day? Mine is about 2.5". That was pretty quick considering I got him smaller.
"Dont Die Foo" finally woke up after I added ceramic rings to get ready for my 300gl. He swims a lot now just like when I first got him. :D

DB junkie
06-27-2008, 2:23 PM
It's like deja vu all over again for me. My first guy from the R.W. shipment was about 2.5 inches when I got him. Only difference is now theres 5 instead of 1. :)

xaznkewlguyx
06-27-2008, 3:12 PM
anyone have some juvie's that look like tat? i have a feeling most of them are armatus..

Dragon Hunter
06-27-2008, 3:19 PM
Thanks big dogg, you made my day a lil brighter:cry::cry::cry::D

Or are you trying to tell me to make my own Forum called "Juvi Fish Keepers":ROFL:

I think i should join the club:cry::cry::ROFL: dont ask. if you must know ask J

West1
06-27-2008, 3:52 PM
anyone have some juvie's that look like tat? i have a feeling most of them are armatus..

Im with ya big dogg. My lil guy is beefing up pretty fast and that is not just from me. People who are close to the tank a lot see him getting bigger real fast. And his color and shape is realy starting to look like Armatus. I almost dont know what to do!!! Armatus with my 11"+ GATF:drool:
Man, I better make my 300 into a sump for a 1000gl tank quick:naughty::D

jlnguyen74
06-27-2008, 3:53 PM
Nice:naughty:

Is it just me or can you see the little guys growing each day? Mine is about 2.5". That was pretty quick considering I got him smaller.
"Dont Die Foo" finally woke up after I added ceramic rings to get ready for my 300gl. He swims a lot now just like when I first got him. :D
It means that your tank was filthy :irked:

anyone have some juvie's that look like tat? i have a feeling most of them are armatus..
Most is the wrong word.. ALMOST ALL is the correct one. I was on my knees watching them for 1/2 an hour

I think i should join the club:cry::cry::ROFL: dont ask. if you must know ask J

"I'll never teeeeeeeeeeeeell!" :D

West1
06-27-2008, 4:02 PM
It means that your tank was filthy :irked:


Most is the wrong word.. ALMOST ALL is the correct one. I was on my knees watching them for 1/2 an hour



"I'll never teeeeeeeeeeeeell!" :D

Could have been that it was dirty? The water in the tank looked clear but when I opened my RenaX4, it was cloudy. So Im just ganna clean out the Rena every other day and do daily water changes till I can take him out of the ten gallon:D. its funny cause when I let out the water from the Rena, it is about the same amount of water that is in the 10gl Armatus
tank:ROFL:. Well I thope I found the prob:D

So any more casualties???? They look like Armatus big dogg:headbang2

xaznkewlguyx
06-27-2008, 4:05 PM
It means that your tank was filthy :irked:


Most is the wrong word.. ALMOST ALL is the correct one. I was on my knees watching them for 1/2 an hour



"I'll never teeeeeeeeeeeeell!" :D


i was going to say all but i decided to go with most. :(

West1
06-27-2008, 4:15 PM
i was going to say all but i decided to go with most. :(

This just gives me a better excuse for fire-works day:headbang2

jlnguyen74
06-27-2008, 4:40 PM
i was going to say all but i decided to go with most. :(

You just being humble. The more I look at them, the happy I am :D

Could have been that it was dirty? The water in the tank looked clear but when I opened my RenaX4, it was cloudy. So Im just ganna clean out the Rena every other day and do daily water changes till I can take him out of the ten gallon:D. its funny cause when I let out the water from the Rena, it is about the same amount of water that is in the 10gl Armatus
tank:ROFL:. Well I thope I found the prob:D

So any more casualties???? They look like Armatus big dogg:headbang2
Only if I forgot to put guppies in the tank. I went from 28 to 13, came back for another 15, and recent count is 24, until Mr. X comes for his pick of the litter, wait 2nd pick of the litter, cuz I have 1st pick :D

West1
06-27-2008, 5:02 PM
You just being humble. The more I look at them, the happy I am :D


Only if I forgot to put guppies in the tank. I went from 28 to 13, came back for another 15, and recent count is 24, until Mr. X comes for his pick of the litter, wait 2nd pick of the litter, cuz I have 1st pick :D

So can I go pick one up too:D
I'll trade ya for some cash:naughty:

Dragon Hunter
06-27-2008, 5:05 PM
So can I go pick one up too:D
I'll trade ya for some cash:naughty:

i got 1 eye willy for $25.00:ROFL::ROFL:

jlnguyen74
06-27-2008, 5:09 PM
So can I go pick one up too:D
I'll trade ya for some cash:naughty:
How about your GATF? :naughty:

West1
06-27-2008, 5:15 PM
How about your GATF? :naughty:

If I had a Ka-zillion on hand like you do Armatus, I would be more than happy too:ROFL:

worrut
06-27-2008, 8:22 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02639.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02650.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02656.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02658.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02661.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02664.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02669.jpg
still look tat to me ,only thing that look like armatus is a color of adipos is orage

xaznkewlguyx
06-27-2008, 8:56 PM
wow warren!! those things are beautiful

channarox
06-27-2008, 9:11 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02639.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02650.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02656.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02658.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02661.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02664.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02669.jpg
still look tat to me ,only thing that look like armatus is a color of adipos is orage

:drool::drool::drool:
i want!!!

vamptrev
06-27-2008, 9:30 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02639.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02650.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02656.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02658.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02661.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02664.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02669.jpg
still look tat to me ,only thing that look like armatus is a color of adipos is orage

deff both armatus.

channarox
06-27-2008, 9:35 PM
the vamp has spoken!!!

jlnguyen74
06-27-2008, 10:48 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02639.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02650.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02656.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02658.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02661.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02664.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02669.jpg
still look tat to me ,only thing that look like armatus is a color of adipos is orage

They both are Armatus. The color of adipose fin and body are contrast. Pics don't lie. Congrats :) BTW, if they still look Tat to you, I'll take them off your hand ;) Did you picked up four?

rkc772
06-27-2008, 11:00 PM
nice to hear you guys are enjoying your fish.:D if all are Armatus then I am happy for all of you guys. keep it up! :headbang2 can't wait to see it as a huge fish. i was honestly afraid of selling them as Armatus when I was questioned it was a Tatauaia. Thank you again for the trust and confidence.:D

channarox
06-27-2008, 11:07 PM
nice to hear you guys are enjoying your fish.:D if all are Armatus then I am happy for all of you guys. keep it up! :headbang2 can't wait to see it as a huge fish. i was honestly afraid of selling them as Armatus when I was questioned it was a Tatauaia. Thank you again for the trust and confidence.:D

you did good rich.

jlnguyen74
06-27-2008, 11:21 PM
nice to hear you guys are enjoying your fish.:D if all are Armatus then I am happy for all of you guys. keep it up! :headbang2 can't wait to see it as a huge fish. i was honestly afraid of selling them as Armatus when I was questioned it was a Tatauaia. Thank you again for the trust and confidence.:D
I'm so pleased and happy Rich :D No worry :grinno: Otherwise, you wouldn't see me 4 times in a week :ROFL::ROFL: Well, actually I was worried a bit, only when I go to buy guppies... For some reason, the store keep sold out on guppies :confused:

jlnguyen74
06-27-2008, 11:25 PM
you did good rich.

I like your style :D First, it was "Most of them are Tat." Then, it was, "Some of them are Tat and some of the are Armatus." Now, it's "You did good Rich." :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

worrut
06-28-2008, 12:21 AM
you are the best rich, i'm happy with my fish.i told you to bring an armatus ,and you did .i'm glad i got it from you

channarox
06-28-2008, 12:23 AM
I like your style :D First, it was "Most of them are Tat." Then, it was, "Some of them are Tat and some of the are Armatus." Now, it's "You did good Rich." :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
LOL
im :screwy:

xaznkewlguyx
06-28-2008, 2:25 AM
yup.. warren you said it..

we cant go wrong with richard. :)

thanks again richard !! i'm glad i took the risk

rkc772
06-28-2008, 2:33 AM
Thank you for the compliments.

I am attaching a photo that was posted by "calisucks" about 2 weeks ago. These fish were posted almost right after Father's day to give you guys some idea how old have they been in your tank. :D All the fish you guys have had speckles on the face, I am hoping for the best and if it does turn out to be the real Hydrolycus armatus then we can conclude that both Hydrolycus Armatus and Tatauaia have dark speckles on the body and face. :D I would really want to see them as Armatus with no doubt. :D

you guys can look back at the thread that had tons of reply: Armatus and more (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150092)

jlnguyen74
06-28-2008, 3:57 AM
Thank you for the compliments.

I am attaching a photo that was posted by "calisucks" about 2 weeks ago. These fish were posted almost right after Father's day to give you guys some idea how old have they been in your tank. :D All the fish you guys have had speckles on the face, I am hoping for the best and if it does turn out to be the real Hydrolycus armatus then we can conclude that both Hydrolycus Armatus and Tatauaia have dark speckles on the body and face. :D I would really want to see them as Armatus with no doubt. :D

you guys can look back at the thread that had tons of reply: Armatus and more (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150092)

Rich,
You bring the firework back for 4th of July :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: I believe I mentioned we'll know the answer by July, cuz same time last year, Armatus was up 4 sale

calisucks
06-28-2008, 6:13 PM
2 weeks later.

Pwn
06-29-2008, 9:29 PM
I'm going through 30+ mosquito fish every 2 days now. I have pretty much cleaned out all the LFS's within 10 miles of me. They used to be .15c each but I have a feeling that will be raised soon. The next cheapest fish at that size seem to be neons or guppies...which average about $1.99 each. I will be broke soon feeding these guys.

R1_Ridah
06-29-2008, 10:55 PM
2 weeks later.

Nice pix..Wil.

I'm still convinced it's a TAT. Perhaps I'm wrong and another a few weeks will really show what it is. Looks great though.

R1_Ridah
06-29-2008, 11:48 PM
BTW - If I'm wrong I'm wrong.. I have a real small ego so I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I'm not trying to prove anything just adding my opinion..nothing more, nothing less ;)

West1
06-30-2008, 8:51 AM
2 weeks later.

Nice flick big dogg.

JD7.62
06-30-2008, 9:48 AM
I think Will's is a tat as well.

There are some posted that are 100% armatus though.

worrut
06-30-2008, 2:01 PM
check this out
http://www.aquascapeonline.com/prodView.asp?idProduct=432&item=Hydrolycus%20Armatus

worrut
06-30-2008, 2:08 PM
I think Will's is a tat as well.

There are some posted that are 100% armatus though.

who got 100% armatus?

West1
06-30-2008, 2:09 PM
check this out
http://www.aquascapeonline.com/prodView.asp?idProduct=432&item=Hydrolycus%20Armatus

That looks like a replica of mine:D
Hope it is indeed Armatus. He is growing very fast (to me and my lil bro atleast)

JD7.62
06-30-2008, 2:21 PM
who got 100% armatus?

You did for sure! :headbang2

If you dont believe me I will send you $200 for the pair and grow them out! :naughty:

Dragon Hunter
06-30-2008, 2:26 PM
Guys tell me what the difference between these 2 fishes what makes 1 a tat and the other armatus?

fish #1
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=219765&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1214691788

fish#2
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02669.jpg

worrut
06-30-2008, 4:29 PM
Guys tell me what the difference between these 2 fishes what makes 1 a tat and the other armatus?

fish #1


fish#2


they might come out the same ,i don't know
but like i told you guy ,i paid extra for all 5 of them
so mine is little bigger than your
the only thing i can think of is adipose color is bright orange
i try to compare with my 12" armatus everyday.

jlnguyen74
06-30-2008, 4:34 PM
Guys tell me what the difference between these 2 fishes what makes 1 a tat and the other armatus?

fish #1
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=219765&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1214691788

fish#2
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02669.jpg

The one on the bottom picture is a few days to a week older than the one on the top picture :)

JD7.62
06-30-2008, 4:52 PM
The jaw angle! The top fish has a much sharper angle then the bottom. This is a near perfect sidexside flank shot comparison to show that!

Dragon Hunter
06-30-2008, 6:38 PM
The jaw angle! The top fish has a much sharper angle then the bottom. This is a near perfect sidexside flank shot comparison to show that!

so which 1 is the tat and which 1 is the armatus?

jlnguyen74
06-30-2008, 8:55 PM
BTW - If I'm wrong I'm wrong.. I have a real small ego so I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I'm not trying to prove anything just adding my opinion..nothing more, nothing less ;)
You a sharp guy bro, no matter big or small ego :) your opinion does matter ;)

R1_Ridah
06-30-2008, 9:24 PM
Guys tell me what the difference between these 2 fishes what makes 1 a tat and the other armatus?

fish #1
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=219765&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1214691788

fish#2
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02669.jpg

Nothing.. in my opinion. Same fish, well same specie...TAT..

R1_Ridah
06-30-2008, 10:02 PM
[QUOTE=jlnguyen74;1934638;]You a sharp guy bro, no matter big or small ego :) your opinion does matter ;)

Awwww.. Thanks bro I feel the love...;)

JD7.62
06-30-2008, 10:04 PM
The top is tat and bottom armatus. I will give the owner of the second one $100 right now if he would ship that fish to me! I got my armatus at just 4" in length and he looked exactly like that!

West1
07-01-2008, 8:07 AM
Im convinced that I own an Armatus now:D
My guy is just shy over 3". I got him about 1.25-1.5" 2 Sundays ago

Check out his body structure... what do you think?
His Jaw/ head shape and tail is what makes it for me?

channarox
07-01-2008, 8:09 AM
sure looks like it! :headbang2

jlnguyen74
07-01-2008, 12:04 PM
Which one is Armatus? Which one is Tat?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0895.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0896.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0897.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0899.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0900.jpg

R1_Ridah
07-01-2008, 12:10 PM
Which one is Armatus? Which one is Tat?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0895.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0896.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0897.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0899.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0900.jpg


WHAT the? did someone throw an M80 in your tank?

Damn, sorry for the loss John :(

West1
07-01-2008, 12:15 PM
did someone throw an M80 in your tank?

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: (sorry, I thought that was halarious)

That sucks arse!!!!

Dragon Hunter
07-01-2008, 12:19 PM
Which one is Armatus? Which one is Tat?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0895.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0896.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0897.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0899.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0900.jpg


is that tonight dinner...:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:




sorry for being an asrseee:screwy::screwy:

West1
07-01-2008, 12:22 PM
Which one is Armatus? Which one is Tat?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0895.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0896.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0897.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0899.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0900.jpg

DAMB!!!!! I cant help but to keep looking at this pic. It hurts so bad and they are not even mine:D:cry:

jlnguyen74
07-01-2008, 12:46 PM
WHAT the? did someone throw an M80 in your tank?

Damn, sorry for the loss John :(

Came home yesterday afternoon and found them floating everywhere in the tank. Didn't know WTF went wrong :irked: Did a w/c on Saturday, and they ate Sunday fine.. Final count this morning 19 checked out, 6 hang in there, but 2 have some sort of white cotton thing on the body - didn't look good :irked:

is that tonight dinner...:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:




sorry for being an asrseee:screwy::screwy:

Don't worry... They'll go to you for Mr. Turt anyway :ROFL::ROFL:

West1
07-01-2008, 1:02 PM
Came home yesterday afternoon and found them floating everywhere in the tank. Didn't know WTF went wrong :irked: Did a w/c on Saturday, and they ate Sunday fine.. Final count this morning 19 checked out, 6 hang in there, but 2 have some sort of white cotton thing on the body - didn't look good :irked:



Don't worry... They'll go to you for Mr. Turt anyway :ROFL::ROFL:

JMO... After 5 days in my tank, I added Tetra Cyclin in the tank incase he had any parasites... For a hot sec my guy looked like he was going in the cooler but shook out of it and he is looking good right now. But with babys, anything can go wrong

G/L big dogg on the rest of them

DB junkie
07-01-2008, 5:05 PM
Did the population of Armatus in the US just go down 30%?

Sorry for your loss man.....

One of mine took a ride last night. Baby Armatus and 3/4 siphon hose = a wild ride. Hope the lil bugger pulls through.........

My only other update is my 5 are definetly NOT Armatus. They can't be cause they are schooling.....LMAO!!!! MUUUHHHHAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA........

At under 2 inches I have witnessed jaw flappin...... Rich is the man.... Vendor of the year!!!!!!!!!

West1
07-01-2008, 5:08 PM
Did the population of Armatus in the US just go down 30%?

Sorry for your loss man.....

One of mine took a ride last night. Baby Armatus and 3/4 siphon hose = a wild ride. Hope the lil bugger pulls through.........

My only other update is my 5 are definetly NOT Armatus. They can't be cause they are schooling.....LMAO!!!! MUUUHHHHAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA........

At under 2 inches I have witnessed jaw flappin...... Rich is the man.... Vendor of the year!!!!!!!!!

What do you mean by jaw flapping? Aggression? Or yawning?

DB junkie
07-01-2008, 5:19 PM
Aggression..... My first one used to do this to me through the glass and to the other fish that got too close.

They are fine when all are calm but as soon as one sprints then they spook and one usually ends up flappin at the one that sprints.....

This is gonna get real interesting.

Am I assuming right that no one has kept more than 3 together successfully?

:naughty::popcorn::naughty:

jlnguyen74
07-01-2008, 5:38 PM
Aggression..... My first one used to do this to me through the glass and to the other fish that got too close.

They are fine when all are calm but as soon as one sprints then they spook and one usually ends up flappin at the one that sprints.....

This is gonna get real interesting.

Am I assuming right that no one has kept more than 3 together successfully?

:naughty::popcorn::naughty:
I have four Armatus and four Tats in the same tank :D for a year :popcorn: 10" to 14" :naughty:

channarox
07-01-2008, 6:07 PM
Which one is Armatus? Which one is Tat?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0895.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0896.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0897.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0899.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0900.jpg


what did you do to them???:WHOA:

jlnguyen74
07-01-2008, 9:17 PM
what did you do to them???:WHOA:
The right question is, "What did they do to me?"

JD7.62
07-01-2008, 10:13 PM
I really think all of those are tats! The close up ones are Im pretty sure.

channarox
07-02-2008, 6:56 AM
The right question is, "What did they do to me?"

:ROFL:

worrut
07-02-2008, 4:40 PM
3.5" update any comment?
thinking of selling....
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02693.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02707.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02715.jpg

channarox
07-02-2008, 5:59 PM
3.5" update any comment?
thinking of selling....
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02693.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02707.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02715.jpg

you can send it over to me. :naughty:
looks like an armatus! :headbang2

vamptrev
07-02-2008, 6:00 PM
3.5" update any comment?
thinking of selling....
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02693.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02707.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02715.jpg

armatus 4 sure! dont sell!

HugeGhost
07-02-2008, 6:43 PM
Where you at man that looks like an Armatus!

jlnguyen74
07-02-2008, 8:50 PM
3.5" update any comment?
thinking of selling....
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02693.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02707.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/worrut/DSC02715.jpg
How much? :naughty:

BigJ
07-02-2008, 8:56 PM
Which one is Armatus? Which one is Tat?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0895.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0896.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0897.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0899.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/jlnguyen74/IMG_0900.jpg


Sorry about the huge loss bro!:(