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Polypterus
08-05-2008, 8:49 PM
Couple different fish... Again please do give a reason on why you think the species pictured is what it is..

city_of_evil6661
08-06-2008, 12:02 AM
Osseus, Platyrhincus, Oculatus, Platostomus

xander
08-06-2008, 12:34 AM
first and las i say osseus. cause of thelong nose and typical juvvy ln patterning. the 2nd and 4th have typical oculatus/platyrinchus pattern but really long noses...im going w oculatus/platyrinchus

dzb912
08-06-2008, 2:13 AM
nice setup

Polypterus
08-06-2008, 8:49 PM
first and las i say osseus. cause of thelong nose and typical juvvy ln patterning. the 2nd and 4th have typical oculatus/platyrinchus pattern but really long noses...im going w oculatus/platyrinchus

I have no Oculatus/platyrincus I either have one or the other and none that are unknown ... It is however a good and an appropriate guess to say both as they are mostly indistinguishable.

These might or might not be the fish... I'll give the answers in a few days...

E_americanus
08-06-2008, 11:19 PM
Osseus, Platyrhincus, Oculatus, Platostomus

reasoning? i'm just curious as you've listed all 4 Lepisosteus species :)

city_of_evil6661
08-07-2008, 6:17 AM
reasoning? i'm just curious as you've listed all 4 Lepisosteus species :)

they all look like Lepisosteus species. i dont see a gator, trop, or cuban. im taking that its a good thing that i listed the L. species cuz of the smiley.

xander
08-07-2008, 6:51 AM
I have no Oculatus/platyrincus I either have one or the other and none that are unknown ... It is however a good and an appropriate guess to say both as they are mostly indistinguishable.

These might or might not be the fish... I'll give the answers in a few days...

waiting:D

Polypterus
08-07-2008, 7:00 AM
waiting:D

What is it with the lack of patience these days?
I'll leave it up for a few more days...

E_americanus
08-07-2008, 8:46 AM
they all look like Lepisosteus species. i dont see a gator, trop, or cuban. im taking that its a good thing that i listed the L. species cuz of the smiley.

that wasn't really what i was asking (guess i worded that a little differently than i thought), i was wondering what your explanation was as to why each fish was the species you ID'd it as...i.e...why did you say longnose for the first one and so on and so forth? richard had asked that people explain their answers (i believe xander did in his answer) --
--solomon

xander
08-07-2008, 1:13 PM
What is it with the lack of patience these days?
I'll leave it up for a few more days...

lack of patience? i just said i would be waiting for an answer. take weeks if you must.

city_of_evil6661
08-07-2008, 4:40 PM
that wasn't really what i was asking (guess i worded that a little differently than i thought), i was wondering what your explanation was as to why each fish was the species you ID'd it as...i.e...why did you say longnose for the first one and so on and so forth? richard had asked that people explain their answers (i believe xander did in his answer) --
--solomon

my reasoning:
Fish 1: Osseus, slender body, long narrow snout. and color/pattern of an average juvi Longnose.

Fish 2 and 3: Both look like Platyrhincus or Oculatus. But since you and Richard can ID a gar almost reguardless of size i just guessed not knowing which is which. (i havent had enough personal experience with each species to tell most juvi's apart.)

Fish 4: Platostomus, i did some research and went to Primitivefishes.com and this one looks very similar to most of the shortnoses there. almost the same coloration, broadness and length of snout look to be about the same.

or i could be completely wrong and be sounding really stupid right now.
but hopefully not.

E_americanus
08-07-2008, 4:53 PM
my reasoning:
Fish 1: Osseus, slender body, long narrow snout. and color/pattern of an average juvi Longnose.

Fish 2 and 3: Both look like Platyrhincus or Oculatus. But since you and Richard can ID a gar almost reguardless of size i just guessed not knowing which is which. (i havent had enough personal experience with each species to tell most juvi's apart.)

Fish 4: Platostomus, i did some research and went to Primitivefishes.com and this one looks very similar to most of the shortnoses there. almost the same coloration, broadness and length of snout look to be about the same.

or i could be completely wrong and be sounding really stupid right now.
but hopefully not.

don't worry man, was just curious as to why you guessed what you did...good comparison and thought process for ID'ing the fishes given just a single photo for each...regardless of the correct answers, good guesses--
--solomon

city_of_evil6661
08-07-2008, 8:32 PM
don't worry man, was just curious as to why you guessed what you did...good comparison and thought process for ID'ing the fishes given just a single photo for each...regardless of the correct answers, good guesses--
--solomon

thanks solomon.

Polypterus
08-29-2008, 11:52 AM
lack of patience? i just said i would be waiting for an answer. take weeks if you must.

1. Osseus
2. Oculatus
3. Oculatus
4. Oculatus

This shows well some of the variations within the spot gar.. Osseus was actually the same fish Solomon post earlier....