Now THESE are the kind of fish I want, dont understand why we cannot keep them?

[sg1]

With all of todays technology and all the specilized breeding and conditioning they can do, why is it that deep sea fish cannot be kept alive in salt water aquariums? I mean, through generations they bread puffers that do not require salt, is it not possible through generations to breed an angler fish that can survive in far less pressure than what would be natural to them? Id kill to see a gulper eel in a giant salt water aquaruim!!!

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/04deepscope/background/deeplight/media/fig3a_400.jpg
http://www.sumedh.info/pictures/deep-sea/hairy-angler.png
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200705/r141780_489830.jpg
http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/ocean/anglerfish.jpeg
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/Content/gulper-eel-15579-sw.jpg
http://people.whitman.edu/~yancey/astronesthes1.jpg

[killerfish]

Would be cool if they could catch them in a presurized capsules or something and keep them in aquariums would be difficult and very expensive though

I don't think it would be possible to breed them so that they can handle the absence of pressure in aquariums they evolved to handle litterally tons of pressure so i don't think they could ever survive at surface pressure

Also i didn't know they breed salt water puffers to live in freshwater

[sg1]

Yeah I imagine it would be expensive but can you imagine how much money could be made if they came out with an anglerfish that could be kept in an aquarium? Wow, everyone with a saltwater setup would want one!

[chafed]

i know i would!

[UNKNOWN_MALONE]

They probably would not look like that over time if they were no longer pressurized . Like adapt a new look in aquariums.

[zakeel]

they would be awesome the only problem would be the pressure

[chafed]

They probably would not look like that over time if they were no longer pressurized . Like adapt a new look in aquariums.
not necessarily, look at the majority of nocturnal animals that have not adapted over time. thats just what comes to mind first, a change like that would have to happen over a very long period of time.

they would be awesome the only problem would be the pressure
well obviously:D

[sg1]

Can anyone here explain to me how it is that these types of fish can live in water so deep that the pressure is such that most submarines cannot even dive that far without imploding?

[famous323]

Can anyone here explain to me how it is that these types of fish can live in water so deep that the pressure is such that most submarines cannot even dive that far without imploding?

they just adapted to it like many other different animals you have to deal with what you are dealt!

[Pyramid_Party]

How do they even get pics of anglers if its dangerous to be that deep?

[Lupin]

How do they even get pics of anglers if its dangerous to be that deep?
That does boggle the mind.lol

[sg1]

How do they even get pics of anglers if its dangerous to be that deep?

Im pretty sure its with those little mini deep exploration subs, the ones that go down to photograph the titantic wreckage, and even if they cant dive that deep they have little camera type robot submercibles that they can send down even further to take the shots, they are attatched to the deep exploration mini suns by some kind of tubing or something.

[Pyramid_Party]

Yeah, thats what I figured. They gotta use some special camera etc. Crazy stuff

[sg1]

Yeah, thats what I figured. They gotta use some special camera etc. Crazy stuff

Since we actually have no way to send people down to the bottom of the ocean floor, makes ya wonder how many strange lookin things are down there that we dont even know about:)

[Pyramid_Party]

Yeah, I was thinking the same. Theres probably some pretty weird/crazy looking creatures down there. We may never ever see them

[sudi817]

Underwater Cyborgs. Cool!

[sg1]

Is there actually any video footage of anglers or gulper eels? Id love to see the way they swim as in their swimming patterns and what not?

[sg1]

Yeah, I was thinking the same. Theres probably some pretty weird/crazy looking creatures down there. We may never ever see them

Well supposidly there are giant deep sea squid that are down there estimated to be as large as 100ft long from head to its longest tentical, but one has never actually been seen alive, only dead ones and pieces of dead ones that wash ashore after they die and float to the surface. They have caught some smaller ones 30-50 feet long but they think the squids can get much larger than that. Talk about a sea monster.

[sg1]

Here look at this one they caught, its a collosal squid, they are shorter than the giant squids but they are also heavier, both are deep sea critters Im pretty sure:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21269279-30417,00.html

[Will Hayward]

Here is the real question... If life exists on other planets, and planets have huge differences in atmospheric pressures, just as living on earth and living at the deepest point of the ocean would, how would that life from space ever be able to visit earth- and vice versa.

Or another one while I'm baked n deep'n thought, Currently our technology does not allow us to see very far into space (in comparison...) but the largest planet currently known is called TRES4. Now lets generalize that a human is 5.5' tall, and earth is 12,742 km in diameter. The planet TRES4 is 243,073 km in diameter. If there is humanoid life on that planet, would they be 110 feet tall?

And also, why are 99 of 100 races shown on Star Trek humanoid?

Now I've gone overboard...

[andyjs]

And also, why are 99 of 100 races shown on Star Trek humanoid?


Less money they have to put into costumes:ROFL:

Even bringing fish up from 30 ft down in a lake is so drastic of a pressure change that some have their swim bladders prolapse out of their mouths. Coming from 6,000+ feet down, even at an extremely slow rate (as in months, maybe years), the pressure change would be so great that the fish likely wouldn't survive

[sg1]

Here is the real question... If life exists on other planets, and planets have huge differences in atmospheric pressures, just as living on earth and living at the deepest point of the ocean would, how would that life from space ever be able to visit earth- and vice versa.

Or another one while I'm baked n deep'n thought, Currently our technology does not allow us to see very far into space (in comparison...) but the largest planet currently known is called TRES4. Now lets generalize that a human is 5.5' tall, and earth is 12,742 km in diameter. The planet TRES4 is 243,073 km in diameter. If there is humanoid life on that planet, would they be 110 feet tall?

And also, why are 99 of 100 races shown on Star Trek humanoid?

Now I've gone overboard...

Well I imagine that life on a different planet might be very different than what we are used to, that said, I dont think living in our atmosphere would be a problem for them as their technology would have to be so vastly more sophisticated than ours just to get here from whereever they came from, a small change in pressure would probably be no thing lol AS for Trek, its low budget, its why I prefere stargate lol

[sg1]

Less money they have to put into costumes:ROFL:

Even bringing fish up from 30 ft down in a lake is so drastic of a pressure change that some have their swim bladders prolapse out of their mouths. Coming from 6,000+ feet down, even at an extremely slow rate (as in months, maybe years), the pressure change would be so great that the fish likely wouldn't survive

Yeah its a bummer isnt it, just trying to imagine some of those deep sea fish in aquariums would be beyond cool:)

[agreeive?fish]

How do they even get pics of anglers if its dangerous to be that deep?


Equipment needed

Camera
Long long long retrval rope
huge lead weight
1 x wife

procedure

attach retreval rope to cammera
attatch x wife to huge lead weight
shove camera into x wife mouth (lense facing outward)
throw x wife into water
when your rope runs out retrieve cammera
develop film and enjoy new pics

[cnoel08]

Equipment needed

Camera
Long long long retrval rope
huge lead weight
1 x wife

procedure

attach retreval rope to cammera
attatch x wife to huge lead weight
shove camera into x wife mouth (lense facing outward)
throw x wife into water
when your rope runs out retrieve cammera
develop film and enjoy new pics

:iagree:
:ROFL:lolz:ROFL:
:hitting:

[sg1]

Equipment needed

Camera
Long long long retrval rope
huge lead weight
1 x wife

procedure

attach retreval rope to cammera
attatch x wife to huge lead weight
shove camera into x wife mouth (lense facing outward)
throw x wife into water
when your rope runs out retrieve cammera
develop film and enjoy new pics
hahahahahahaha!

[Myteemouse]

If your interested in deep sea exploration Watch "BLUE PLANET" of Discovery !!
GOOD STUFF!!

[Knowdafish]

they just adapted to it like many other different animals you have to deal with what you are dealt!

Their bodies are mainly water. Water doesn't "pressurize" to the extent that gasses do. Submarines are full of a gas (oxygen/air). If they were 100% full of water they could go as deep as they wanted!

[sg1]

Isnt the human body also made up mostly of water though?

[da7v9e6]

Isnt the human body also made up mostly of water though?

Yes, I think our bodies around 70% water but I think that we would still get crushed by the pressure. If we didn't get crushed by that we would have no way of breathing unless a rebreather can make it that far down.

[sg1]

This might be a stupid question but does anyone know, that prototype suite that the guy wend down in that trench with on the movie "The Abyss", the one where it fills his lungs up with super oxygenated water so he can go deeper, does such a thing really exist? Is such a thing really possible?

[ewurm]

How do they even get pics of anglers if its dangerous to be that deep?


The pressure inside their bodies has to be the same as the outside, otherwise they would implode. I have to imagine that if they were quickly brought to the surface their internal organs would explode!

[sg1]

This might be a stupid question but does anyone know, that prototype suite that the guy wend down in that trench with on the movie "The Abyss", the one where it fills his lungs up with super oxygenated water so he can go deeper, does such a thing really exist? Is such a thing really possible?

Actually found an answer to my question on google, figured Id post it if any was interested:

From an interview with James Cameron in Movieline magazine, found on the web:

"The idea for the film came from a science experiment that Cameron saw performed in high school, which he eventually turned into a short story. 'There was a guy named Frank Felacek, a human guinea pig who actually breathed a liquid in both lungs,' Cameron explained from his posh hotel suite in Beverly Hills. 'They started with one lung and then the other. He thought he was going to die, and everyone got real nervous, so they pumped the stuff out of his lungs. It didn't work very well because a saline solution couldn't hold enough oxygen. But later they started experimenting with flourocarbon, and they've done it very successfully with dogs and monkeys. The FDA won't let them use it in human experimentation, so the research has sort of hit a wall, but the proposition is that if there was ever a strong enough military application for it, it would proceed again. In the film, when the rat breathes it, it's the real stuff, it's really happening... [message corruption]

[viridari]

Can anyone here explain to me how it is that these types of fish can live in water so deep that the pressure is such that most submarines cannot even dive that far without imploding?


Submarines are full of air.

Fish are full of water.

The fish have equilibrium at depth. The submarine can't add more air pressure on the inside to counter the water pressure on the outside as it goes down.

[Fishes33]

Here is the real question... If life exists on other planets, and planets have huge differences in atmospheric pressures, just as living on earth and living at the deepest point of the ocean would, how would that life from space ever be able to visit earth- and vice versa.

Or another one while I'm baked n deep'n thought, Currently our technology does not allow us to see very far into space (in comparison...) but the largest planet currently known is called TRES4. Now lets generalize that a human is 5.5' tall, and earth is 12,742 km in diameter. The planet TRES4 is 243,073 km in diameter. If there is humanoid life on that planet, would they be 110 feet tall?

And also, why are 99 of 100 races shown on Star Trek humanoid?

Now I've gone overboard...

Why dont you say to search for Levithan and Megaladon in the deep blue sea?

Myth! :D