Top 10 most rare cichlids

[Jakob]

Whitch cichlids would you think to be the top 10 most rare cichlids in the world (SA/CA) please numer the fish as 1. as the rarest and 10. as the less rarest on that list.
Im not looking for any cichlids to get or buy so its alright if they only excist in the Wild or are endangered.
Maybe not all the lists will be the same, but i want your opinions.:D

[Spaz]

Do you mean rare in the hobby or in the wild?

[Jakob]

The wild!

[fishguts]

oscars
jags
uros
red devils
convicts
midas
texas
green terror
angelfish
id say oscars are the rarest.

[dirtyblacksocks]

If we're talking in the wild every fish on this list should be a madagascar species...I dont' know enough about them to know which is more rare than the others - but I think almost every single one is endangered.

[crmarti]

naw oscars are all over hte lakes around here i believe...in the south (SC) but i dont really know i just know they are on alot of fishing charts around here.

[fishguts]

naw oscars are all over hte lakes around here i believe...in the south (SC) but i dont really know i just know they are on alot of fishing charts around here.
jk

[Jakob]

this isnt what im talking about, im talking about fish that are so rare in the wild that they are not commonly kept in home aquariums either.

[dogofwar]

Here's the ACA's Conservation Priority Species at Risk List:
http://www.cichlid.org/ACA_CARES.html

Species
Allochromis welcommei
Amphilophus bussingi
Amphilophus lyonsi
Amphilophus rhytisma
Archocentrus altoflavus
Archocentrus myrnae
Archocentrus nanoluteus
Archocentrus septemfasciatus
Archocentrus spinosissimus
Astatotilapia aeneocolor (2/08)
Astatotilapia barbarae
Astatotilapia brownae
Astatotilapia desfontainii (2/08)
Astatotilapia flaviijosephi
Astatotilapia latifasciata
Astatotilapia piceata
Astatotilapia sp. ‘dwarf bigeye scraper’
Astatotilapia sp. ‘shovelmouth’
Astatotilapia velifer
Benitochromis nigrodorsalis(7/08)
Benitochromis ufermanni(7/08)
Chetia brevis
Cichlasoma istlanum
Copadichromis atripinnis
Enterochromis erythromaculatus (2/08)
Eretmodus cyanostictus
Haplochromis acidens
Haplochromis annectidens
Haplochromis cyaneus
Haplochromis flavus
Haplochromis guiarti
Haplochromis heusinkveldi
Haplochromis howesi
Haplochromis katavi
Haplochromis lividus
Haplochromis obliquidens
Haplochromis sp. ‘ruby’ (2/08)
Harpagochromis cavifrons (2/08)
Hemichromis cristatus
Herichthys bartoni
Herichthys labridens(7/08)
Herichthys minckleyi
Hericythys steindachneri
Herichthys sp. ‘Cazones’ (2/08)
Hoplotilapia retrodens
Katrias katria
Konia dikume
Konia eisentrauti
Labrochromis ishmaeli
Lethrinops macracanthus
Lethrinops macrophthalmus
Lethrinops micrentodon
Lethrinops microdon
Lethrinops oculatus
Lethrinops stridae
Limbochromis robertsi(7/08)
Lipochromis cryptodon (2/08)
Lithochromis rubripinnis
Lithochromis rufus
Lithochromis xanthopteryx
Macropleurodus bicolor
Mbipia lutea
Myaka myaka
Neochromis gigas
Neochromis greenwoodi
Neochromis simotes
Oreochromis alcalicus
Oreochromis amphimelas
Oreochromis chungruruensis
Oreochromis hunteri
Oreochromis jipe
Oreochromis karomo
Oreochromis karongae
Oreochromis lidole
Oreochromis pangani
Oreochromis rukwaensis
Oreochromis squamipinnis
Oreochromis variabilis
Paralabidochromis beadlei
Paralabidochromis chilotes (2/08)
Paralabidochromis chromogynos
Paralabidochromis crassilabris
Paralabidochromis labiatus (2/08)
Paralabidochromis victoriae
Paratilapia sp. ‘Andapa’
Paratilapia sp. ‘Betsihoka’
Paratilapia polleni
Paratilapia sp. ‘Betsileo Highlands’
Paratilapia sp. ‘Southwest’
Paratilapia typus
Paratilapia sp. ‘East Coast small spot’
Paratilapia sp. nov. ‘Vevembe’
Paretroplus damii

Paretroplus sp. ‘Dridrimena’
Paretroplus maromandia

Paretroplus cf. kieneri
‘Sofia drainage’
Paretroplus kieneri

Paretroplus dambabe
Paretroplus maculatus
Paretroplus menarambo
Paretroplus nourissati
Paretroplus tsimoly
Paretroplus sp.
nov. ‘giant lamena’
Paretroplus sp.
‘Lake Amparihinandrina’
Paretroplus polyactis
Paretroplus sp. nov. ‘Ventitry’
Platytaeniodus degeni
Prognathochromis argenteus (2/08)
Prognathochromis bayoni (2/08)
Prognathochromis perrieri
Psammochromis aelocephalus (2/08)
Ptychochromis grandidieri
Ptychochromis inornatus
Ptychochromis oligacanthus
Ptychochromis loisellei
Ptychochromis insolitus
Ptychochromis curvidens
Ptychochromis makira
Ptychochromis sp. ‘Mananara’
Ptychochromis sp. ‘Tarantsy’
Pundamilia igneopinnis
Pundamilia macrocephala
Pundamilia nyererei
Pungu maclareni
Ptychochromoides betsileanus
Ptychochromoides vondrozo
Pyxichromis orthostoma
Sarotherodon caroli
Sarotherodon linnellii
Sarotherodon lohbergeri
Sarotherodon steinbachi
Stomatepia mariae
Stomatepia mongo
Stomatepia pindu
Thorichthys callolepis (2/08)
Tilapia ‘jewel’
Tilapia ‘little black’
Tilapia ‘yellow-green’
Tilapia bakossiorum
Tilapia bemini
Tilapia bythobathes
Tilapia deckerti
Tilapia flava
Tilapia guinasana
Tilapia gutturosa
Tilapia imbriferna
Tilapia kottae
Tilapia snyderae
Tilapia spongotroktis
Tilapia thysi
Tristramella sacra
Xystichromis ‘Kyoga flameback’
Xystichromis nuchisquamulatus
Xystichromis phytophagus
Xystichromis sp. ‘Nawampasa red’
Yssichromis laprogramma (2/08)

Reasons for being on this list include:
AR = At Risk in Nature: (Dr. Paul V. Loiselle)
CD = Conservation Dependent: (i.e., the species is part of a conservation program, which, if ended, would
result in the fish being reclassified as “Threatened” within 5 years.)
CP = Conservation Priority: Species suitable for Breeder Award Programs. (Dr. Paul V. Loiselle)
CR = Critically Endangered: A species facing an extremely high risk of extinction in the wild in the
immediate future (same as “EE” used by de Rham, & Nourissat)
EN = Endangered: Species facing a very high risk of extinction in the wild in the near future. (Includes
species on the ALA list (2) shown as “Threatened.”)
EW = Extinct in the Wild: Known only to survive in cultivation, in captivity or as a naturalized population
(or populations) well outside the past range.
EX = Extinct: There is no reasonable doubt that the last individual has died.
NT = Near Threatened: Species which are close to qualifying for classification to Vulnerable.
VU = Vulnerable: A species facing a high risk of extinction in the wild in the medium term future.

[Modest_Man]

Here's the ACA's Conservation Priority Species at Risk List:
http://www.cichlid.org/ACA_CARES.html

Species
Amphilophus bussingi
Amphilophus lyonsi
Amphilophus rhytisma
Archocentrus altoflavus
Archocentrus myrnae
Archocentrus nanoluteus
Archocentrus septemfasciatus
Archocentrus spinosissimus
Cichlasoma istlanum
Herichthys bartoni
Herichthys labridens(7/08)
Herichthys minckleyi
Hericythys steindachneri
Herichthys sp. ‘Cazones’ (2/08)
Thorichthys callolepis (2/08)



That's what I was going to post. I took the liberty of restricting it to CA/SA cichlids.

[Fishes33]

Isnt the cichlid called "Beanie" the most RARE on the fish trade?

[Spaz]

Isnt the cichlid called "Beanie" the most RARE on the fish trade?

Beani arn't rare in the wild.

[mbunafishkeeper]

beani thrive in wild but as soon as it comes to keeping them in the hobby, there near extinct, i dont think there is a single beani in the UK.

[mbunafishkeeper]

why is it that the beani arent collected that much?? every1 wants them and theres loads in the wild so..

i supose the location of them in the wild is pretty far out of the way??

[fishfarm]

oscars
jags
uros
red devils
convicts
midas
texas
green terror
angelfish
id say oscars are the rarest.
LOL, all of these are very common.

[dirtyblacksocks]

beani aren't that hard to come by - people just don't breed them becaues they're high aggressive, so all specimins are F0 and command a higher price. I'm pretty sure Mexico has banned export on them, too.

[Spaz]

why is it that the beani arent collected that much?? every1 wants them and theres loads in the wild so..

i supose the location of them in the wild is pretty far out of the way??

There are people that have and are collecting them. I should have 4 of them 4" - 6" by the end of October, I can't wait.

[davidefc]

beani thrive in wild but as soon as it comes to keeping them in the hobby, there near extinct, i dont think there is a single beani in the UK.
Wrong, a shop sold a adult pair acouple of years ago, not sure who too or if there still alive

[killerfish]

Beani are rare in captivity becuase there difficult to breed due to aggression and the fry bloat and die very eazily

Ornatums are very rare in captivity don't know how rare they are in the wild though

Lynosi would also be high on the list there getting very rare in the wild

[fishguts]

LOL, all of these are very common.
if you didnt think i was joking then uhhhhhh.:hitting:

[davidefc]

Beani are rare in captivity becuase there difficult to breed due to aggression and the fry bloat and die very eazily

Ornatums are very rare in captivity don't know how rare they are in the wild though

Lynosi would also be high on the list there getting very rare in the wild
Ornatum arnt rare in the wild its the collection area, its run by drug barons.....

[nc_nutcase]

Blue Dempseys have never been seen in the wild... that's pretty rare...

[Cross127]

Blue Dempseys have never been seen in the wild... that's pretty rare...

neither are Flowerhorn but we are talking true species not hybrids or recessive gene fish.

I would say Bartoni are pretty damn rare in the Wild but Lyonsi are up there.

Obviously people have already stated beani are infact not rare in the wild just captivity. LOL the UK doesn't have Beani what about Australia LOL. I don't think anyone has one.

Oh and Beani aren't being brought into country's because of what davidefc said. Most areas are HIGH drug trafficing and areas of Drug Baron's. They are still able to get caught in alot of areas though.

[killerfish]

Yeah color morphs of fish would be the rareist in the wild LoL

[nc_nutcase]

Color morphs are "true species"... and are not hybrids... be careful what you group together ;)

Although I can accept they are a rare variety of a common species... therefore that species is not rare...

[darthodo]

I was under the impression that bocourtis were rare in the wild.

[japes]

if you didnt think i was joking then uhhhhhh.:hitting:

I can't believe some people couldn't detect the sarcasm, lol.

[big dovii]

I think oscar is the least rare.

Jaguar
Flowerhorn
Rose Queen
Red Devil
Red terror
Green Terror
Jack Dempsey
Convict cichlids
Severum
Oscar



I think Umbee's should be up there too, not many new fish being brought in due to drug barons...