Would it be crazy to use 400w metal halides on a 240L African tank??

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I had a custom 280 I was going to set up as a reef tank but Katrina changed that. Now I have a 240 long that I am going to set up as africans. I still have my three 400w MH setups that use lumenarc 3 reflectors. These reflectors spread the light out very far. So I was thinking of useing 2 of them and having them like 24" off the water. I think I could cover the 8' of tank wih light this way and lessen the heat problem and maybe alge problem with the bulb so far off the water.

I might be able to trade the 400 watters for 250's but I have 400w bulbs already too to try and see what color I want. I have a 10k 15k and 20k bulbs. So if I went this route I would want to try the 400's first.

What do yall think?


This is the reflectors I have http://www.lumenarclighting.com/proddetail.asp?prod=L3
 
Thats alot of power. 400w x3 is 1.2kw/hr, x $.085 per kWh, your going to spend a $1.60 for every 16 hours they are on in electricity. Your going to spend $48 a month just to have the lights on. And that isn't even a warm / or filtered tank yet.

Just a thought but I would try to go green in the lighting department unless you have live coral or plants that need it to grow. Florecent lighting has temps and color too, and it is a place you can go green, unlike a heater or filtration where you cant get an eco- and wallet friendly version.
 
I was only going to use 2 not all 3. And I wouldnt run them 16 hours a day...more like 7-8 hrs a day. I know they are cheaper lighting but you cant replace that shimmer like real sunlight. I just wonder how the fishs color will look and alge problems.
 
Don't some African cichlids like algae? If you put even one of your MH's over the 240 you should get good algae growth for the fish to nibble on. With that kind of wattage you could also put some Anubias and Java ferns in the tank.
 
I think any kind of plant, including algae is going to love that light. You can always get an algae blocker. Personally, I get alot of algae, with my plant lights and iron and fertilizer supplements for my plants. I had africans with rocks and plants--I know they eat plants they are omnivors, I try to grow enough so they can graze, but that means extra lighting, iron, etc and along with that comes extra algae. I use two items that take care of my tank quickly 1st one of those 6" plastic scapers (they come in 8" and 12" too for big walls...um I mean tanks), from Home Depot wont scratch glass or acrylic and makes quick work of cleaning glass....2nd a stiff plastic bristle brush, like one you would use to clean your car rims, this one from Lowes though, takes algae right off rocks. Forget those gimics that they sell in the Pet shops, they dont work. Just run your items through a sanatise & water heat cycle in the dishwasher before useing the 1st time, and after use to clean (and always prime the diswasher by making sure the water runs hot out of the sink before starting it--this will improve any dishwashers efficiency 10fold) Use a cup of distilled vinagar instead of soap in the dishwasher. Distilled nagar will rinse and evaporate off leaving no toxic residue, heck if you wanted you could use distilled vinagar to pH down a tank with high ammonia levels after you, get some ammolock in there. I used to be afraid of algae, because it was so hard to get off, it was just too much work. Now I couldnt care less because it is so quick to using a huge scaper and huge scrub brush.
 
Newt;2282831; said:
Don't some African cichlids like algae? If you put even one of your MH's over the 240 you should get good algae growth for the fish to nibble on. With that kind of wattage you could also put some Anubias and Java ferns in the tank.

I was thinking about maybe some of those plants....but I dont know if one light would cut it. I dont like dim corners of the tank. I think im going to try two of them.....
 
anubias and java fern would sustain and probably grow some under regular fluorescent lighting. Under halides, you'd better be doing some sort of nutrient supplementation (maybe just a ton of waste from the fish), or their growth patterns will be pretty messed up. under a 400w halide, you could keep pretty much any freshwater plant you wish, and 95% of all plants would need some serious acclimation to that kind of bright lighting. If you have mbuna, they might like that situation, as they live in the shallows of lake malawi (the same goes for the tropheus of tanganyika), but as far as peacocks go, they are from the murky, deeper waters, and only venture up into the shallows to prey upon fry of mbuna. This is a generalization, but a pretty accurate one. If you raise fluorescents high enough above the water such that it is pretty much just ambient light, you can get a shimmer. However, I'm with you on the halide shimmer.... SWEET. I foresee some major algae problems in your future, and probably some skittish fish too...
 
24" off the water is pretty far to have them tho. I dont know if it would be that bright. If it is too bright I might drop to 250 MH and see what thats like. I was thinking of a hap/peacock type tank...
 
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