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VLDesign
10-10-2008, 8:49 AM
Virgin shark got pregnant in Virginia aquarium By Will Dunham Fri Oct 10, 1:05 AM ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

Scientists using DNA testing have confirmed the second-known instance of "virgin birth" in a shark -- a female Atlantic blacktip shark named Tidbit that produced a baby without a male shark.

The shark came to the Virginia Aquarium & Marine Science Centre in Virginia Beach not long after being born in the wild and lived there for eight years with no males of the same species, said Beth Firchau, the aquarium's curator of fishes.

The 5-foot (1.5-metre) shark died after being removed from the tank for a veterinary examination, and a subsequent necropsy revealed that Tidbit was carrying a fully developed shark pup nearly ready to be born, Firchau said.

Demian Chapman, a shark scientist with the Institute for Ocean Conservation Science at Stony Brook University in New York state, performed DNA testing that showed the pup had no father. Virgin birth such as this is known as parthenogenesis.

A year ago, Chapman used genetic testing to confirm that a hammerhead shark at a zoo in Omaha gave birth to a pup in 2002, also after parthenogenesis.

"It tells us that the original case we documented last year was not some fluke of nature. This is something that might be more common than we think it is, and widespread among sharks," Chapman said in a telephone interview.

Parthenogenesis also has been documented in Komodo dragons, snakes, birds, fish and amphibians, Chapman said.

It occurs when a baby is conceived without male sperm fertilizing the female's eggs. In the type of parthenogenesis seen in sharks, the mother's chromosomes split during egg development.

How the sharks do it is unclear. Chapman said they may use a hormone to trigger eggs to develop in this manner in the absence of males. Or perhaps if eggs remain unfertilized with no males around, a certain fraction develop into embryos.

"It's a finding that kind of rewrites the textbooks a little," Chapman said. "It just goes to show how the ocean keeps its secrets very well. And the sharks in particular."

"Of course, sharks are being killed at such a rate that unless we do something to stop that, we're not even going to learn all their secrets before they're gone," Chapman added.

The findings appear in the Journal of Fish Biology.
(Editing by Maggie Fox; Editing by Peter Cooney)

Frostyone
10-10-2008, 8:53 AM
Very cool, thanks!

evilxyardxgnome
10-10-2008, 9:16 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/10/shark.virgin.birth.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

davo
10-10-2008, 9:18 AM
Matt and Em?

By this I don't mean that they have had a baby shark together :grinno:
Just last time this happened Matt came along and crapped all over the validity of the one case.

evilxyardxgnome
10-10-2008, 9:24 AM
Could it possibly of held sperm maybe?

matt123
10-10-2008, 9:34 AM
another one of natures neat little tricks !! i had heard of it in certain species of frog but not on anything as large as a shark !! pretty cool tho !

Dan Feller
10-10-2008, 9:48 AM
Komodo Dragons have produced fatherless young in zoos! I believe the hatchlings are all male. Great reproductive strategy!

PATSFAN69
10-10-2008, 10:15 AM
Brings on a whole new meaning to the phrase "Go Yourself "

bfhslilred93
10-10-2008, 10:19 AM
lol yea this has happened to many animals before. Jurrassic park may not be all fiction

wonword
10-10-2008, 10:22 AM
genetics is interesting isnt it. Just as in fruit flies, male and females are not determined by a y chromosome, but how many x chromosomes they have in comparison to autosomal sets, or something like that.

rmorse
10-10-2008, 10:32 AM
This just PROVES creationism is the one truth we have left! Down with Darwin!!!!


*Cough cough*



Thats pretty cool! I wonder if this is a new thing, or just a recently discovered thing....

Zoodiver
10-10-2008, 12:50 PM
I remember that shark. She attacked and bit one of the aquarists there.
I'm still against this idea. Pups develop and are reabsorbed by females often. So an unborn "pup" doesn't really tell anything.
Also, here are several mehods of DNA esing. Some will give various results even with known breeding pair offspring.

serafino
10-10-2008, 12:52 PM
This has been known to happen with many other types of animals before. I could go into detail as to why but unless your very familiar with embryo development there's no point. If you are interested google parthenogenesis.

turkeyboy85
10-10-2008, 12:54 PM
good read

[enjoyable_attempt]
10-10-2008, 1:00 PM
Wow thats really quite interesting.

Zoodiver
10-10-2008, 1:03 PM
***I just merged the 2 threads.***

For this mother, there are 8 months unaccounted for. Not probable that she was bred that soon in the wild, but we don't know 100 percent. Unless it occurs in a captive bred female so we can account for her entire life, it's all a guess.

And like I said in the other post, in elsamos, unborn pups like this will grow and usually result in self abortions of a non developed pup or pups are reabsorbed into the female.

ewurm
10-10-2008, 5:21 PM
Shark does not have a father? Divorce is such a terrible thing for kids....

aro-guy246
10-11-2008, 5:33 PM
***I just merged the 2 threads.***

For this mother, there are 8 months unaccounted for. Not probable that she was bred that soon in the wild, but we don't know 100 percent. Unless it occurs in a captive bred female so we can account for her entire life, it's all a guess.

And like I said in the other post, in elsamos, unborn pups like this will grow and usually result in self abortions of a non developed pup or pups are reabsorbed into the female.
Zoodiver I forgot to mention in the other thread that I posted in but he pup was fully formed and almost full term if that makes a difference.