View Full Version : ID these clowns please.
here are some pics.
i got them from 2 diff sources, and im hoping the bigger one is the female, and the small one is the male,.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6505/img30231eg.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img30231eg.jpg)
and
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/162/img30209sv.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img30209sv.jpg)
casperbgk
02-27-2006, 1:40 AM
hey
im no clownfish expert but i think they could be either amphiprion ocellaris or amphiron percula. percula have thicker black bands around the white.
these links might help
http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/clownfishcare/l/blpercula.htm (http://)
here are some pics.
i got them from 2 diff sources, and im hoping the bigger one is the female, and the small one is the male,.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6505/img30231eg.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img30231eg.jpg)
and
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/162/img30209sv.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img30209sv.jpg)
these are tomato clowns, I've had salt before . I've be raising fish of and on for almost thirty years. feel free to ask away.
Bes
these are tomato clowns, I've had salt before . I've be raising fish of and on for almost thirty years. feel free to ask away.
Bes
umm, you sure their not ocellaris?
because i know for sure they are either ocellaris or percula.
tomato clowns look like this
http://www.aquahobby.com/marine/img/tomato1.jpg
Oddball
02-27-2006, 3:01 AM
All clownfish are born as males and remain males until sexual maturity. Then, the largest male will change physiologically (sexual metamorphosis) into a female for spawning. If that new female should leave the colony, the next largest male will change into a female.
johno27
02-27-2006, 5:04 AM
If that is a tomato clown I am ozzy osborne :grinyes: definitely a perc or os like he said
casperbgk
02-27-2006, 6:29 AM
URL not valid?
sorry. im not sure how to hyperlink it. might have to copy and paste into adress bar.
im pretty sure theyre either percs or ocellaris. i had a pair of ocellaris before. its really hard to tell the difference between the two though
Getmuddy350
02-27-2006, 9:04 AM
They look to me like ocellaris. I'm 58% sure
Pretty sure they are ocellaris as they lack the clear black edging of the percula.
water_baby83
02-27-2006, 4:40 PM
Well, they are definatly not tomato clowns, lol, nope. I would have to say that those are false percula's (Ocellaris Clown). The main difference between the two (false vs. true Percula), is that they have thinner black borders, than the true Percula, and they (false) have 10 rather than 11 dorsal spines, and a higher anterior dorsal. They are pretty hardy little guys, and really easy to keep, I have about 5 right now, they aren't too picky when it's dinner time, and if you have a Ritteri, or carpet anemone, they will love you. LOL. The only problem with them is that they can be extremly belligerant towards others of their kind, so I suggest keeping them in groups around 3-7, that way a pecking order is defined, and no one fish is picked on too much. They are cute though, and yes, the bigger one will be (IF isn't already), the female. Good luck.
--EMI
Well, they are definatly not tomato clowns, lol, nope. I would have to say that those are false percula's (Ocellaris Clown). The main difference between the two (false vs. true Percula), is that they have thinner black borders, than the true Percula, and they (false) have 10 rather than 11 dorsal spines, and a higher anterior dorsal. They are pretty hardy little guys, and really easy to keep, I have about 5 right now, they aren't too picky when it's dinner time, and if you have a Ritteri, or carpet anemone, they will love you. LOL. The only problem with them is that they can be extremly belligerant towards others of their kind, so I suggest keeping them in groups around 3-7, that way a pecking order is defined, and no one fish is picked on too much. They are cute though, and yes, the bigger one will be (IF isn't already), the female. Good luck.
--EMI
:WHOA:
i belive the biggest one is a female already, because it was in a tank with an onyx clown, and i believe the onyx was a male already.
so they are BOTH ocellaris , correct?
ogre929
02-28-2006, 7:55 AM
Those are most likely occelaris. 95% Though I've got a lot of glare from my window and I can't see the stinkin picture very well. Percs have significant more black on them. As far as tomato??? 30 years of keeping freshwater fish maybe. That's a pretty basic salt fish to get confused. But maybe they call em different things in different places.
these are tomato clowns, I've had salt before . I've be raising fish of and on for almost thirty years. feel free to ask away.
BesThose are false percula's.Here's mine.[IMG]
This is a maroon clown.[IMG]
Princley
02-28-2006, 7:03 PM
they look like percula's... but even it theyr male and female don't mean they will breed
mates are usually sold as a pair
water_baby83
02-28-2006, 8:38 PM
That's true, but sometimes even "breeding" pairs don't mate. That's why keeping them in small schools naturally raises your chances of sucessfull breeding. I wouldn't buy into that whole buying a "breeding pair" thing, most places will charge you more for a mated pair, but more often then not, they are matched up the same as the rest, and breeding is 50/50. Just get some more - get them as small as you can, as you already have a large one. They will make their own "chain of command", and take it from there - if it is to happen at all. I have had perc's for a few years, and out of 20 or so (from three different schools in seperate tanks), only twice have they sucessfully bred, to where I was overwhelmed with babies. -- the LSWFS loved me though, LOL, as I gave them most of them. Good luck though!
--EMI
Syffe457
03-01-2006, 1:50 AM
They half to be ocellaris, the perks have more black in them.
Fish Finder
03-01-2006, 9:17 AM
there deff amphiprion ocellaris you can tell by the lack of black.
yodacroz
03-05-2006, 1:30 PM
As we've decided, they're either A. ocellaris or A. percula, and more than likely the ocellaris. The black bars are usually a good indication(Percs are wider) but not for certian. If you are adventourus, the way to be certian is to count the dorsal spines. Ocell have 11, and Percs have 9-10. Good luck getting them to stay still long enough to count though! More info can be foudn in Joyce Wilkerson's "Clownfishes" book
yodacroz
03-05-2006, 1:36 PM
Also you can look here... http://www.wetwebmedia.com/clnidfaqs.htm
cmersits
03-05-2006, 1:37 PM
finding nemo fish :hitting:
dmarinko
04-24-2006, 8:55 PM
percula clown
craig
04-24-2006, 10:40 PM
these are tomato clowns, I've had salt before . I've be raising fish of and on for almost thirty years. feel free to ask away.
BesThey are FALSE PERCULAS like mine.
Don4921
04-25-2006, 10:22 AM
ur correct
rudeanduncouth
04-25-2006, 3:14 PM
As we've decided, they're either A. ocellaris or A. percula, and more than likely the ocellaris. The black bars are usually a good indication(Percs are wider) but not for certian. If you are adventourus, the way to be certian is to count the dorsal spines. Ocell have 11, and Percs have 9-10. Good luck getting them to stay still long enough to count though! More info can be foudn in Joyce Wilkerson's "Clownfishes" book
As he said this is the ONLY true way to tell the difference between Amphiprion percula and Amphiprion ocellaris. While the black is generally a good inidicator it is not scientific. Unless you plan on breeding them and raising the babies it doesn't really matter that much. Generally, percs are a little more agressive than ocellaris as well.