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zennzzo
10-19-2008, 5:28 PM
I started this thread to open discussion on the subject of De-chorinator, Chlorine, and Chlorimines.

How long does it take a product like stresscoat to work?

If I used "aged" water from a barrel, what do you do about temperature?

How do you keep your water/change water?

cassharper
10-19-2008, 5:50 PM
the chlorine removing agent in stress coat (and most other dechlorinators) is sodium thiosulfate, which should act immediately. Most people who barrel age water keeping powerheads for circulation and heaters for temp.

I just use a python and add prime in the stream

sabotage
10-19-2008, 5:54 PM
INSTANT

Pyramid_Party
10-19-2008, 5:56 PM
Cool, I wanted to know this too. I add the chemicals to my bucket as it fills up. But I also stir it pretty good too before I put it in the tank.

zennzzo
10-19-2008, 5:59 PM
the chlorine removing agent in stress coat (and most other dechlorinators) is sodium thiosulfate, which should act immediately. Most people who barrel age water keeping powerheads for circulation and heaters for temp.

I just use a python and add prime in the stream
See, I have read here somewhere that the de-clorination isn't imediate and that there was chances of nuking your BB.

Circulation and a filter?, dang that's like another Tank!:naughty:
Powerhead isn't bad, but a heater for 50gals, what 200watt?

I too run a Python, well parts of one, to refill at correct temp. I been pouring my stresscoat into the tank and then adding the water...

zennzzo
10-19-2008, 6:03 PM
OK here is another thought...
If I added more than the recommended amount of de-chlorinator, will there still be some unused in the tank? And how long will it be available for de-chlorinating?

Potts050
10-19-2008, 6:19 PM
OK here is another thought...
If I added more than the recommended amount of de-chlorinator, will there still be some unused in the tank? And how long will it be available for de-chlorinating?

Tough to give an honest answer on this one.
Sulphates can be consummed over time as an energy source (reducing agent) by anaerobic bateria that lurk in the dark recesses of a mature tank. Live rock, deep substrate etc that aren't turned over frequently will harbour these bugs. As they consume sulphate they produce sulphide which you can detect as that rotten egg smell.

This is not a bad thing however as these same bugs will consume nitrate and nitrite reducing these anions to oxygen and nitrogen gas.

There is little danger of overdosing with thiosulphate based dechlorinators within reason. As far as the other ingredients in prime and stresscoat, I suspect they are just buffers and fillers, and beyond the fact that your thickening the soup of chemicals in your tank, I don't see any serious threat-accept to your pocket book.

There are much cheaper sources of thiosulphate, including the old darkroom chemical 'Fixer' if you can still find it anywhere. It seems it getting more difficult to buy straight chemicals these days...

zennzzo
10-19-2008, 6:36 PM
Maybe a better question is, what is the chlorine doing as it enters the tank and before mixing with the thiosulphate...could this be enough to nuke Benificial Bacteria?

...and here is a link to thiosulphate
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190177459816

chesterthehero
10-19-2008, 8:11 PM
for the daily topoffs it has from the time i leave the sink till i get to the tank to work...
for waterchanges it has a few minutes to kick in as i move the hose from the tub to the rubbermaid tub and hook up the pump...

the more i drink the less i worry about it..

zennzzo
10-19-2008, 8:30 PM
for the daily topoffs it has from the time i leave the sink till i get to the tank to work...
for waterchanges it has a few minutes to kick in as i move the hose from the tub to the rubbermaid tub and hook up the pump...

the more i drink the less i worry about it..Good answer...I been over thinking it...:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

zennzzo
10-19-2008, 9:03 PM
ttt

iat814
10-19-2008, 9:39 PM
Good thread. I always wonder about this. I too stir the water like crazy in the bucket before I pour it in the tank.