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Sean6870
10-23-2008, 12:20 PM
Hi. This is my first post. I've been a MFK member for all of four minutes and don't know my head from my rear when it comes to keeping fish. I was given a 55 gallon aquarium with all the fixin's and I want to keep a few bluegill in it. I have checked with my state game laws and I am good to go.

With that in mind, could osme give me some guideance with habitat ideas, substrate, etc.? How long should me tank be up an running with the right Ph before I introduce the fish?

Help! :-)

-Sean:nilly:

skrefany
10-23-2008, 2:51 PM
1st-Do your research on cycling the tank before you add fish.

Read here:http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132494

2nd-I've kept ONE solitary bluegill in a 75g tank before. They should be treated about the same as an Oscar and are more aggressive (info on Oscars is easier to find). You would need a much larger tank to keep more than one (they either have to be kept solitary or in groups of 5 or more, or so I've read). If you wanted a small group, I would check out a smaller kind of sunfish. I think Pumpkinseed stay smaller? Somebody correct me?

Mine got about as wide as the 3 gallon bucket I had him in when I gave him away.

This was before he got real big...

le patron
10-23-2008, 6:38 PM
i'd say 55g BARE MINIMUM for one single bluegill. they grow very slowly, so try to get a juvenile and get it accustomed to aquarium life.they are very aggressive but they are also a lot of fun to keep. they arent very colorful at at all and hide all day so i really dont see why thats the only fish you would want. think about it before you make the decision. i have a bluegill and i have angelfish and tetras. i like the angels and tetras awhole lot more. they have great personalities and are fun to watch. why not get something more colorful and maybe a larger tropical cichlid. maybe a firemouth and a convict or other CA cichlids. hope this helps

Sean6870
10-27-2008, 3:58 PM
Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I appreciate it.

-Sean

Sean6870
10-27-2008, 3:59 PM
Thanks so much for the help!

Sean6870
10-27-2008, 3:59 PM
Thanks!

DRgrits
10-27-2008, 4:40 PM
Years ago I kept a few that I caught in the pond out back in a 125.I would put them back in the pond if they had any issue's. I believe I even had a couple of smaller Bass and catfish from time to time. But they are aggresive with each other and like really clean water.And they like to eat-alot!

perfect_prefect
10-27-2008, 5:30 PM
i have some green sunfish which are actually quite attractive as far as bluegills go. they seem to adjust to aquarium life quite well. IMO.

andyjs
10-27-2008, 7:11 PM
i have some green sunfish which are actually quite attractive as far as bluegills go. they seem to adjust to aquarium life quite well. IMO.
You are aware that bluegill and green sunfish are two different fish correct? It seems like a when a lot of people talk about NA native fish they think of bluegill or bass, but there are actually many distinct species of bass and non-bluegill sunfish. Personally, I think a large male bluegill in breeding color is a very attractive fish, but there are many smaller more attractive sunfish out there like greens, pumpkinseeds, longears, orange spots, etc

perfect_prefect
10-27-2008, 7:59 PM
sorry, as far as panfish go they are quite attractive. also like you stated smaller and better suited to life in a 55.

oscarcrazy
10-27-2008, 10:08 PM
pretty much any sunfish other than the bluegill or redear can live ok in a 55 for life(though a single fish might be ok). I have a warmouth and a longear in a 55. Great aquarium fish. Care is the same as cichlids as in a bunch of hiding spots and powerful filtration, just don't need a heater. Most sunnies quickly adjust to a diet of pellets and other store bought goodies. Spoil them with crickets and worms every once in a while and you'll have some fat little slabs in your tank.

Muske
10-28-2008, 8:10 AM
What kind of filtration can w/the tank?

Any Rock Bass in your area?

JIM
12-07-2008, 6:04 PM
There are actually quite a few really nice natives that you could keep in a tank that size without worry of them getting too big. Orange spots, obesus,blue spotted, dollars, punkinseeds. all bluegill shaped kinda but stay smaller. Then there is the rock bass, and shadow bass (very attractive), and warmouth. If you want native fish go after them they are out there. small gravel or sand substrate, rocks caves, drift wood, plants. Nature in a glas box for you to enjoy. and i havent even mentioned the Darters

MultispeciesTamer
12-07-2008, 7:06 PM
put 2 bluegill and a bullhead catfish that should be good

Noto
12-07-2008, 7:15 PM
I agree that bluegill are not the best choice for a 55. Bluegill, greens, and redbreasts all easily reach 12", which is a bit too big for such a narrow tank.

If you can get some longear sunfish, that would be perfect- they are gorgeous, relatively peaceful sunfish, and the subspecies in your area stays quite small, 5" or so. You could easily keep 4-5 in a 55. Just be sure to provide plenty of structure; when scaping the tank imagine that you are dividing it into rooms, one for each fish. This will limit aggression. It also helps to keep all fish of one gender.

Appropriate tankmates include moderate-to-large minnows, madtoms, studfish, and large darters such as blacksides and logperch. Moderate flow and mixed gravel/cobble substrate are a plus. Room temp is fine; water parameters are not critical so long as it's clean and fairly stable.

Let us know what you decide!

JIM
12-08-2008, 5:30 PM
Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I appreciate it.

-Sean

There are lots of possible choices, in the bluegill shaped natives that stay small, such as Blue spotted sunfish, Dollar sunfish, Obesus, and the list goes on Visit a few verdor sites, Such as Zimmermans fish, Sachs Aquaculture, Jonahs fish, ksi aquatics. BT Darters, all these sites sell Native fish and all would be more than happy to help you pick fish that would be happy in your 55 without outgrowing it. Sunfish by nature are agressive, but not so much more so than, a lot of Chiclids. If you really want to keep natives do a little research on them. Youll get hooked I did after keeping everthing else out there for over 30 years. :headbang2

le patron
12-08-2008, 7:39 PM
You are aware that bluegill and green sunfish are two different fish correct? It seems like a when a lot of people talk about NA native fish they think of bluegill or bass, but there are actually many distinct species of bass and non-bluegill sunfish. Personally, I think a large male bluegill in breeding color is a very attractive fish, but there are many smaller more attractive sunfish out there like greens, pumpkinseeds, longears, orange spots, etc
thats what im trying to say

le patron
12-08-2008, 7:40 PM
I agree that bluegill are not the best choice for a 55. Bluegill, greens, and redbreasts all easily reach 12", which is a bit too big for such a narrow tank.

If you can get some longear sunfish, that would be perfect- they are gorgeous, relatively peaceful sunfish, and the subspecies in your area stays quite small, 5" or so. You could easily keep 4-5 in a 55. Just be sure to provide plenty of structure; when scaping the tank imagine that you are dividing it into rooms, one for each fish. This will limit aggression. It also helps to keep all fish of one gender.

Appropriate tankmates include moderate-to-large minnows, madtoms, studfish, and large darters such as blacksides and logperch. Moderate flow and mixed gravel/cobble substrate are a plus. Room temp is fine; water parameters are not critical so long as it's clean and fairly stable.

Let us know what you decide!
actually greens are one of the smaller sunfish maxing out around 6-7"

Noto
12-08-2008, 8:01 PM
They get big. Not as heavy as a big bluegill or redbreast, but just as long.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z161/Newt1453/Sean_Vanderburg-_record_green_sunfi.jpg