buying marbled crayfish

[generalcov]

Is the www.marbledcrayfish.com (http://www.marbledcrayfish.com) site legit? I am considering purchasing a few but I want to make sure that my money will be well spent.

[mauricio yearwood]

Check aquabid.com threre is a guy selling 12 for $99.00

[generalcov]

I'll check into it. Thanks

[smokin]

i just bought 2 marble crays from that site and i found out that www.shrimp-n-it.com is alittle cheaper for the shipping and the crays are like 2 inches.i bought the juvenile from www.marblecrayfish.com

[Otto_VonBacon]

My blue lobster and red lobster had babies, the babys look like marbles though...

Red+Blue= Marble??

[fishbait2]

I just noticed that my marbled cray is berried. friggin awesome. about 60 days theyll be ready.

[fishbait2]

your red and blue may look like marbles, but can they clone themselves?

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

is this real yall?
does it work?
they legeit?

[fishbait2]

Yes it is real, they do clone themselves. here is some more info www.marbledcrayfish.com

[Pyramid_Party]

Think before you buy. Soon you will be overwhelmed with crayfish and wont know what to do with them. If you are planning them as feeders thats fine. But this cray is dangerous because of the way it spawns. Im sure they will eventually be banned when more people start getting their hands on them and are careless. Some will make it to the wild and there will be problems.

So again, think before you buy. This cray can get out of hand if you have no plans to dispose of all the babies properly.

[MN_Rebel]

Think before you buy. Soon you will be overwhelmed with crayfish and wont know what to do with them. If you are planning them as feeders thats fine. But this cray is dangerous because of the way it spawns. Im sure they will eventually be banned when more people start getting their hands on them and are careless. Some will make it to the wild and there will be problems.

So again, think before you buy. This cray can get out of hand if you have no plans to dispose of all the babies properly.

Also this marbled crayfish have no natural range as this species do not existed in the wild. I dont trust that guy whos claimed that its okay to use marbled crayfish as bait and cannot survived in United States waters...total bs as this marbled crayfish can hybridizing with other crayfish species. I agreed with Pyramid_Party, this species will eventually become banned and we cannot let it happened as this species are very useful as feeders and are very interesting crayfish as long as no moron dump them into the waterways.

[black_sun]

Also this marbled crayfish have no natural range as this species do not existed in the wild. I dont trust that guy whos claimed that its okay to use marbled crayfish as bait and cannot survived in United States waters...total bs as this marbled crayfish can hybridizing with other crayfish species. I agreed with Pyramid_Party, this species will eventually become banned and we cannot let it happened as this species are very useful as feeders and are very interesting crayfish as long as no moron dump them into the waterways.

The idea behind the bait thing being okay is that the Marmorkreb is so non-aggressive that even with the ability to produce large amounts of offspring, it still gets decimated by naturally occurring species. Though, valid reports go both ways on this subject, at this point even in states and countries where they've been made illegal, the reports are still "inconclusive" as to the actual impact on the environment. (Not to say it's not a valid issue)

And the Marmorkreb is in fact used as a bait crayfish, though certainly a lot of other species are still more wildly used currently (and subsequently spread, as well). These are becoming more popular because they are easier to handle and don't often, if at all, pinch when being handled. By the bye, that website suggests freezing the crayfish before using them as bait to avoid ecological issues, so they're not advocating using them live or allowing the spread of them.

Additionally, this species does not hybridize with other species. Not that's been reported at least, though if you can find me a report of it I'd certainly love it for my own research gathering. You could probably get some interesting hybrids if they did. But that's beside the point...

This species does require more consideration before being obtained because of it's ability to reproduce by apomixis, at such frequent intervals and so easily when given ideal conditions. If you don't have the means to PROPERLY re-home, sell or dispose of the offspring you should look into getting another species.

[MN_Rebel]

I have no proof that they are very popular bait crayfish, however they are popular feeder. I personally dont believe that marbled crayfish cannot survive in the United States because of temp, but isnt that marbled crayfish are closely related to the Red swamp crayfish or possible hybrid of this species?

[pufferdudeg5]

I want some, somone send me some babies. 12 for 100$ yeah right.

[MN_Rebel]

I want some, somone send me some babies. 12 for 100$ yeah right.

Why need 12? Why not just a single crayfish or two then in few months you will have lots of babies crawling over your place.

[black_sun]

I have no proof that they are very popular bait crayfish, however they are popular feeder. I personally dont believe that marbled crayfish cannot survive in the United States because of temp, but isnt that marbled crayfish are closely related to the Red swamp crayfish or possible hybrid of this species?

There isn't proof needed for that, just stop in a half dozen bait stores... you'll see them in at least a few of them (at least around here). And they definitely are a popular feeder, the only people who buy my offspring are people or stores who want feeders.

I couldn't find any reference to them not being able to survive in the US in that site. But they definitely can, many people have introduced them to their outdoor ponds throughout the US to be used as food for whatever they're keeping. But they can definitely survive here. They can weather German winters easily, so they can surely winter ours. And the they can handle Madagascar's summer heat, so they can also handle ours.

Marmorkrebs are a proposed relation to NA Procambarus species, but with no direct link to any one species or that genus being found yet. This in part being due to the fact that it is still largely debated whether this is a new species or a hybrid.

[MN_Rebel]

Marmorkrebs are a proposed relation to NA Procambarus species, but with no direct link to any one species or that genus being found yet. This in part being due to the fact that it is still largely debated whether this is a new species or a hybrid.

One problem: Marmorkrebs are discovered in some pet store in Europe and it appeared that marmorkrebs have no natural home range or any native range....we still have no idea where this species really come from, so this species sure have mystery history...just like flowerhorn and blood parrot cichlids.

[MN_Rebel]

I couldn't find any reference to them not being able to survive in the US in that site.


Really? The seller/owner of that Marmorkreb website said they cannot survived in United States water.

[black_sun]

Really? The seller/owner of that Marmorkreb website said they cannot survived in United States water.

I looked through it, I didn't find that reference. What page was it on? They'd need to be notified about that, as it's blatantly untrue. Well, untrue related to water temperatures and conditions. The owner/seller may be one of the many people that subscribe to the idea that if introduced to the wild, the natural species would decimate them, thus avoiding any ecological issues. (not necessarily a wise view, imo, but not unfounded either)

[MN_Rebel]

I looked through it, I didn't find that reference. What page was it on? They'd need to be notified about that, as it's blatantly untrue. Well, untrue related to water temperatures and conditions. The owner/seller may be one of the many people that subscribe to the idea that if introduced to the wild, the natural species would decimate them, thus avoiding any ecological issues. (not necessarily a wise view, imo, but not unfounded either)

This owner said that in other thread in here, claimed that they cannot survived in United States winters.

For one thing, I would be very surprised if this species is on ANY state list. And, all evidence seems to indicate this species could not live through the winter in any state, not even Texas - much less Wisconsin. By all means, investigate your own state lists for prohibiting species of any kind, I am all for it. But there is no need to add paranoia to a species already villified by British press - there is a lot of good that this animal could provide to the world, in the bigger picture.

Still we dont know if it could cause problems in the waterways or not as its not happening right now as this marorkerbs' still new to the American aquarium hobby, but it take just one marmorkerb got stray in the waterways then you will find some of feral marmorkerbs soon. (reason i say feral because there are just no wild marmorkerbs existed)

[black_sun]

This owner said that in other thread in here, claimed that they cannot survived in United States winters.

Still we dont know if it could cause problems in the waterways or not as its not happening right now as this marorkerbs' still new to the American aquarium hobby, but it take just one marmorkerb got stray in the waterways then you will find some of feral marmorkerbs soon. (reason i say feral because there are just no wild marmorkerbs existed)

I just sent them an email asking them to remove that statement, as it's incorrect. I suggested they look up the readily available reports of the temperatures and conditions in which they can survive and provided the name and address of one of the more known researchers of Marmorkrebs, so as they may gather accurate information. Hopefully, they'll rectify it... (though, the majority of their info is correct) though now that I saw the email address they provided I remember this person... he was such a friggin' jerk the last time we had contact. He even followed me around on forums spamming me after I emailed him. >_<

[MN_Rebel]

I just sent them an email asking them to remove that statement, as it's incorrect. I suggested they look up the readily available reports of the temperatures and conditions in which they can survive and provided the name and address of one of the more known researchers of Marmorkrebs, so as they may gather accurate information. Hopefully, they'll rectify it... (though, the majority of their info is correct) though now that I saw the email address they provided I remember this person... he was such a friggin' jerk the last time we had contact. He even followed me around on forums spamming me after I emailed him. >_<
Was this person who follow you in forums named Marmorkrebs as his username? Yeah I understand, I have mixed feelings about this Marmorkrebs person. I have no problems with marmorkrebs being used as frozen bait as long as its not alive as i have no idea that this marbled crayfish website has changed as they are no longer suggest use marmorkrebs as live bait but now used as frozen bait.

[black_sun]

Was this person who follow you in forums named Marmorkrebs as his username? Yeah I understand, I have mixed feelings about this Marmorkrebs person. I have no problems with marmorkrebs being used as frozen bait as long as its not alive as i have no idea that this marbled crayfish website has changed as they are no longer suggest use marmorkrebs as live bait but now used as frozen bait.

Yea, he was named Marmorkrebs (though, admittedly I had to go back and pull up those posts to find out).

Yea, well he just cemented my feelings against him now that I know who this is again. He just sent me back a rather rude email in response to mine, to which I sent back actual documented evidence (amazing, what a concept) disproving his statements. He's so silly... he's claiming to personally know the person who discovered the first Marmorkreb as well as the researcher I referred him to (the same researcher who's own webpage and research disproves his statements). Because I really believe that... ;)

[MN_Rebel]

I guess he only want try hook us up with buying his stock and try to repel any negative about his stock...typical seller.

[26pets]

Gosh you paid allot for marbles..... I got a whole bunch of them.... They like to breed allot. They are often sold as feeder crayfish. I feed them to my seahorses. I dont see why marbles cost so much? I understand Electric Blues and other species...

[crm7290]

where exactly are you located? Id be interested in buying one off of you if your around here. I want to feed them to oscars possibly and dont especially want to pay 12 dollars or whatever that site is selling them for.

[Pyramid_Party]

plus the shippign cost which is about $30-$40

[crm7290]

Would anyone here be willing to ship out a couple young marmokrebs?
Or a pick up in either mns twin cities or around chicago or madison is doable.

I think the majority of you are on the west coast but there might be some around here with marble crays.

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

is anybody willing to ship some? i would like some small ones plz

[black_sun]

I have a brood that will be ready to be rehomed/sold/traded/etc in about a week or two (currently, they're too small to ship), if anyone wants to wait on them. They won't start to reproduce until they've reached about 2in in length though. So, if you're looking for feeders now, check out Aquabid.com, there's usually some cheap ones on there.

[crm7290]

keep a few of them until they are able to be shipped. Id be willing to buy a few if the price is right

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

let us know cost and shipping

[mauricio yearwood]

Definetly willing to get some and im right next door in new york, just let me now wen they redy

[black_sun]

When they're ready, they'll be $2/ea and then whatever shipping costs (priority or express, buyer's choice) - calculated via USPS.com (from past experience, that's usually $5-10 for priority and in the neighborhood of $30 for express)

[uberunce]

hey black sun if you're ok with shipping to toronto canada im interested as well. i have already did research on importing these crays to canada and it is all good.

[crm7290]

When the crays are ready can you please PM me. Ill send you a PM right now about them just to remind you. Those prices are better than others ive ever seen

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

pm me too man
ill want some

[Louie]

Gosh you paid allot for marbles..... I got a whole bunch of them.... They like to breed allot. They are often sold as feeder crayfish. I feed them to my seahorses. I dont see why marbles cost so much? I understand Electric Blues and other species...


Wow thats neat. I never thought sea horses would eat tiny crayfish

[Danger_Chicken]

Is the www.marbledcrayfish.com (http://www.marbledcrayfish.com) site legit? I am considering purchasing a few but I want to make sure that my money will be well spent.This guy's ad's on craigslist introduced me to Marbles and got me interested in them. But after asking him some questions and telling him I wanted to wait 3 weeks he he started feeding me lines of BS trying to get me to buy now. He also misrepresents his location on CL. When I was ready to buy I got them from aquabid. $10 ea 1.5-2" and only $10 shipping, a bargin compared to this crooked used car salesman.

Also this marbled crayfish have no natural range as this species do not existed in the wild. I dont trust that guy whos claimed that its okay to use marbled crayfish as bait and cannot survived in United States waters...total bs as this marbled crayfish can hybridizing with other crayfish species. I agreed with Pyramid_Party, this species will eventually become banned and we cannot let it happened as this species are very useful as feeders and are very interesting crayfish as long as no moron dump them into the waterways. If they self reproduce I don't know how they could hybridize.

Really? The seller/owner of that Marmorkreb website said they cannot survived in United States water.that guy will say anything to make a sale.

[TheJD]

I'm assuming the guy doesn't realize the United States is kind of big and that winter in Texas is a little different than winter in Wisconsin.

[smokin]

hey if any1 see this i know its a old thread i have some of the marble crays(the self cloneing ones) for sale pm me or check out my for sale ad.

[Docsoldlady]

People look at these guys as pests. What if this IS the solution to world hunger??? LOL

[Freezekougra]

People look at these guys as pests. What if this IS the solution to world hunger??? LOL

LOL NICE IDEA :D:D

[brandonN]

i just bought three off of marbled Crayfish.com and they got here yesterday, and they are very active and healthy, and eat a lot, you'd be surprised!!!!!