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galatic
11-04-2008, 12:23 AM
I will be getting a blue eye pleco this week. I already named him BLUEY. Bluey will be housed in his own 75 gallon aquarium. I was wondering what kind of gravel to put in with him ( or should I leave the bottom of the tank bare)? My aquarium right now had bright blue gravel so I don't know if its good for a blue eye pleco or not ( Will the blue gravel stress him out cause he's not use to the bright blue color). I know driftwood is a must cause they eat them and caves or plants for hiding places. Also how long should I wait before I start feeding him? I know most fish wont eat for two or three days while they adjust to a new tank. Last question I have is how often should I do water changes and how much should I take out of the tank ( Like 50 percent water changes or less ). Please help me answer all of my questions for I've paid $1,500 for this rare specimen and dont want him to die..... ;)

Knowdafish
11-04-2008, 12:33 AM
$1,500 ? !! :WHOA:

Lupin
11-04-2008, 12:38 AM
Water changes depend on the amount of bioload involved. Twice a week isn't bad. I prefer black sand for plecos.

Vandecruz
11-04-2008, 12:38 AM
Congrats to your new purchase of the rare Blue eye stuttoni:D

Allan01230
11-04-2008, 12:52 PM
Wow! Out of curiosity where did you find a blue eyed?

Bogwoodbruce
11-04-2008, 1:43 PM
Id go with nice fine gravel or black gravel, i think that coloured stuff looks tacky wich you dont want with a $1,500 pleco.

tennisboi87
11-04-2008, 1:52 PM
How big will it be? I also have one coming in this week, Im going to try giving him cucumber, I just got a huge watermelon and it started to eat the next day, completely demolished the cucumber!Post pics when you can, would like to see it, great pick up!

OneFishBlue
11-04-2008, 1:56 PM
amazing purchase
hope it all works out

Yanbbrox
11-04-2008, 3:56 PM
Id go with nice fine gravel or black gravel, i think that coloured stuff looks tacky wich you dont want with a $1,500 pleco.
Couldn't agree more, $1500 pleco with tacky blue gravel? Hope it works out looking forward to pictures

galatic
11-04-2008, 4:10 PM
So is the dark blue gravel tacky ( I have dark blue not bright blue )? It wont harm the fish right? You know the post by knowdafish of his arowana ( The blue water is the exact same gravel color I have in my aquarium.) Is that wrong or okay?

xiahaolong168
11-04-2008, 4:54 PM
wow. i've never seen a blue eyed pleco in my life. PICTURES PLEASE!

lee1
11-04-2008, 8:30 PM
Congratulations I am also getting one Thursday morning:headbang2

RedDevilDon2005
11-04-2008, 8:35 PM
1500..................american dollars? my LFS had 5 for like 27 bucks a piece.

bigfishsmallpond
11-04-2008, 9:46 PM
blue eyed panaque or L-137?

lee1
11-04-2008, 10:00 PM
1500..................american dollars? my LFS had 5 for like 27 bucks a piece.wrong fish my friend

azntank
11-04-2008, 10:02 PM
changing 50% of the water twice a week for 1 pleco in a 75 gallon is a bit much in my opinion

lee1
11-04-2008, 10:04 PM
changing 50% of the water twice a week for 1 pleco in a 75 gallon is a bit much in my opinionAgreed I would do 25% biweekly they are not as messy as your common plecos and I would put a piece of driftwood for him to graze on and to help soften the water.

RedDevilDon2005
11-04-2008, 10:30 PM
wrong fish my friend


no..........no it wasnt. they had them in the same tank where they were keeping the blue spot plecs. they were blue eyed plecs.

lee1
11-05-2008, 12:03 AM
Is this the one?http://www.aquabid.com/uploads/fwcatfishp1226250400.jpg

tennisboi87
11-05-2008, 12:18 AM
Not that one, its more of a royal pleco body shape dull in color and has bright blue eyes

lee1
11-05-2008, 12:19 AM
http://www.aqua-fish.net/imgs/fish/panaque-suttoni.jpgThe Real Deal

tennisboi87
11-05-2008, 12:24 AM
Thats the one!

lee1
11-05-2008, 12:27 AM
Thats the one!My pics were meant for reddevil and his 27 dollar plecos at his lfs,I will be getting mine Thursday of course the real deal.

uncwnells
11-05-2008, 12:33 AM
Awesome looking fish, Ive never seen these before!

tennisboi87
11-05-2008, 12:33 AM
Cool...post pics and I will do like wise

lee1
11-05-2008, 12:41 AM
I will post pics when it settles down I am excited just hope the wife does not find out a pleco just cost me:screwy:Beleive it or not I had one in 86 that I paid 25 bucks for and I thought that was steep for a pleco boy how things change,see the guy on aquabid selling his pair for a price of a car.

tennisboi87
11-05-2008, 12:48 AM
Just like my L46 zebra plecs, they were cheap before an then I bought some and wow has the price changed over the years....

lee1
11-05-2008, 12:55 AM
If you ever decide to let any of the stripped fellows go give me a holler.;)

tennisboi87
11-05-2008, 12:57 AM
We'll see, hopefully I can breed them soon, their pretty good size.

RedDevilDon2005
11-05-2008, 6:13 AM
http://www.aqua-fish.net/imgs/fish/panaque-suttoni.jpgThe Real Deal


this is it. im not trying to start a fight. my lfs had a few brought in from a guy who shut down his tank. they were around 25-30 bucks.

lee1
11-05-2008, 10:11 AM
this is it. im not trying to start a fight. my lfs had a few brought in from a guy who shut down his tank. they were around 25-30 bucks.I would drop everything you are doing and by them all ,and post pics ,they might just be regular royals honstly you just do not have 3 blue eyes laying around.

Bogwoodbruce
11-05-2008, 3:10 PM
Couldn't agree more, $1500 pleco with tacky blue gravel? Hope it works out looking forward to pictures
Hee hee.

Im looking forward to pix

We had a 12" Blue eye listed on a germany import list it was £1000 at trade price.

Allan01230
11-05-2008, 4:31 PM
If those are the real blue eyed panque I would drop everytrhing and buy every one. I have seen these on aquabid going for $2000 a couple of years ago. I also had 1 that was mixed in with some commons in the 80's that I paid $3 for. I told the owner and than he said Oh blue eyes that one is 5 bucks. He just died on me about 10 years ago.

Johny
11-06-2008, 2:12 AM
haha blue eyed pleco at $25-$30!!! buy one and post pics...im 100% sure there not real blue eyes...

tennisboi87
11-06-2008, 2:19 AM
Not feeling to hot about my pleco the flight was delayed until tomorrow morning!!!!!I should have it by now!

lee1
11-06-2008, 12:51 PM
That stinks mine just got in going to p/u now

Bogwoodbruce
11-06-2008, 1:42 PM
Not feeling to hot about my pleco the flight was delayed until tomorrow morning!!!!!I should have it by now!
Doesnt sound too good.

Good luck:)

lee1
11-06-2008, 9:57 PM
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=275440&stc=1&d=1226025755 My new pleco

tennisboi87
11-06-2008, 10:06 PM
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=275440&stc=1&d=1226025755 My new pleco


Nice i got mine 2!

lee1
11-06-2008, 10:10 PM
Nice i got mine 2!Show me some pics,min is pushing 13 inches and how the heck do you sex these guys mine does have wiskers but not very long.

wingate2581
11-06-2008, 10:21 PM
this is it. im not trying to start a fight. my lfs had a few brought in from a guy who shut down his tank. they were around 25-30 bucks.


I tell you what, you go buy all of them for 30 a piece and I will give you 35 a piece for everyone of them! you could make yourself $15!! deal?! lol
seriously, for your sake I hope your right. that would be a deal of a lifetime.

Ph33n0m
11-07-2008, 8:23 PM
heres the gold lined

lee1
11-07-2008, 10:15 PM
Thanks for posting my pics.

tennisboi87
11-09-2008, 3:05 AM
I will be getting a blue eye pleco this week. I already named him BLUEY. Bluey will be housed in his own 75 gallon aquarium. I was wondering what kind of gravel to put in with him ( or should I leave the bottom of the tank bare)? My aquarium right now had bright blue gravel so I don't know if its good for a blue eye pleco or not ( Will the blue gravel stress him out cause he's not use to the bright blue color). I know driftwood is a must cause they eat them and caves or plants for hiding places. Also how long should I wait before I start feeding him? I know most fish wont eat for two or three days while they adjust to a new tank. Last question I have is how often should I do water changes and how much should I take out of the tank ( Like 50 percent water changes or less ). Please help me answer all of my questions for I've paid $1,500 for this rare specimen and dont want him to die..... ;)

Did your fish come in bro???How does it look?

lee1
11-09-2008, 10:30 AM
Cool avatar

galatic
11-09-2008, 4:06 PM
My fish will be comming in this Tuesday :) . I have to take a 4 hours drive to san antonio and pick up driftwood and plants. I guess my blue gravel is okay other than taking some out ( cause its 5 inches think from top to bottom ). I might also get real plants to put in with it ( or should I get fake ones )?

andregurov
11-09-2008, 9:27 PM
My fish will be comming in this Tuesday :) . I have to take a 4 hours drive to san antonio and pick up driftwood and plants. I guess my blue gravel is okay other than taking some out ( cause its 5 inches think from top to bottom ). I might also get real plants to put in with it ( or should I get fake ones )?

Don't take this the wrong way - did you research the feeding habits of this plec before you bought it? I think you'll find they are rather not picky when it comes to eating plants. Pretty much all of them will taste just fine. I imagine *if* you could feed it enough it may leave live plants alone ... but there are precious few ways to keep a 13" plec fed all the time. As an Hypostomus species, they'll eat anything and everything that doesn't run away (just take a gander at their teeth, and you'll see those teeth are pretty utilitarian).

I'd just go with a lot of wood. Nothing shows worse than a $1500 fish that looks like it lives in Vegas (plastic and fake). Or at least, I'd imagine nothing looks worse ... ;)

D-Train
11-09-2008, 9:38 PM
oh lawd 1500 dolla. thats more than what it cost to buy both my tanks (180 and 110).... and stock..... almost.

Kevaldo
11-10-2008, 3:33 AM
great looking blue eyes, my friends shop has brought in a few since they became available again, they are a truly amazing plec

galatic
11-10-2008, 2:01 PM
I didn't make the trip to San Antonio :( . But I will drive an hour to Harlingen and go to the local fish store that has plenty of driftwood and supplies. Dang I'm easily looking at spending an extra $200 for the supplies (Food, plants, driftwood, new filter, and some of that ready tank mix ). I plan on cleaning my aquarium 100 percent and then adding the ready tank chemicals that way my aquarium will be already for BLUEY when he arrives Tuesday :) . THANKS for all the help from you guys ;)

BTB0923
11-10-2008, 2:10 PM
Wow! Out of curiosity where did you find a blue eyed?

riverwonders.com had some, but I think they are sold out now

lee1
11-10-2008, 3:34 PM
I didn't make the trip to San Antonio :( . But I will drive an hour to Harlingen and go to the local fish store that has plenty of driftwood and supplies. Dang I'm easily looking at spending an extra $200 for the supplies (Food, plants, driftwood, new filter, and some of that ready tank mix ). I plan on cleaning my aquarium 100 percent and then adding the ready tank chemicals that way my aquarium will be already for BLUEY when he arrives Tuesday :) . THANKS for all the help from you guys ;)Are you putting bluey in a uncyled tank?Make sure your tank is cycled or you are going to put alot of stress on him.and the instant tank stuff I think is way overrated.

cob201
11-11-2008, 6:21 AM
Galactic- ready tank mix type stuff is not worth buying, 90% of the time it does nothing, especially with a massive waste producer like a large panaque. You'd literally have to be mad to put this fish in to an uncycled tank, I really hope that's not what your doing, because your likely to lose alot of money.

Edit: 5 inches of substrate is also a very bad idea, the chances of anaerobic bacterial build up are high, use 2 inches of sand/gravel mix at most.

galatic
11-11-2008, 11:01 AM
No No I'm not taking all the water out just 50 percent. I'm also adding three live plants ( so he can be in a nice enviornment and hide ) and also some Malaysian driftwood. Is Moopani driftwood good or not ( cause in some fourms they say that its too hard and can mess up blue eye plecos teeth )? But I will not dare mess up the cycled tank ;) By the way my blue eye pleco is comming from L.A. and I should recieve by 10:30 a.m. today. :) :) :)

MalawiTango
11-11-2008, 11:55 AM
$1500 YIKES! Good luck I hope it arrives healthy

ctoychik
11-11-2008, 12:06 PM
1500 for a pleco? What ... you live in Australia or something where everything fish is soooo expensive??? Joking ^^

Seriously, i would really love to see a pleco that is so expensive. I am fairly new to plecos ...always saw them as tank cleaners which comes in black ... well, now in red and leopard (i thought those were steep already but not 1500 to be sure)

IsaacMTSU
11-11-2008, 12:22 PM
I would certainly be well educated on this purchase before actually making it... I kind of don't believe you

roombo
11-14-2008, 4:13 PM
I had one of those 10 years ago, the LFS was going out of biz, they wanted $50 and I got it for $25. Had him for years until I went on vacation and my mother thried to turn the tank light on via the heater knob, boiled the poor bastard. They are rare because their habitat has been distroyed by chemicals from local drug lords as they are only from a certian area, from what I know.

galatic
11-20-2008, 1:33 AM
IssacMTSU you said " I dont believe you " :irked: We'll believe the pics I'm about to post :headbang2 Thursday..........

tennisboi87
11-21-2008, 12:13 PM
Pics of Bluey!
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp291/blkarow/bluey.jpg
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp291/blkarow/bluey1.jpg
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp291/blkarow/bluey2.jpg
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp291/blkarow/bluey3.jpg

Lupin
11-21-2008, 9:35 PM
Nice pleco!:D

galatic
11-21-2008, 11:44 PM
Thanks Lupin ;)

jiapei
12-26-2008, 9:18 AM
$1500 is a fair price for blue eye panaque, congrats!

T1KARMANN
12-26-2008, 9:32 AM
i wouldn't rush out and pay crazy money for a blue eye any time soon

their will be lots for sale over the next year and prices will crash

due to the places they are fish being accessible again

i think prices will drop to $400-600 soon :D

jiapei
12-26-2008, 11:34 PM
haha, the recent pricelist i got from colombia exporter directly is 500usd for a 10'', exclude freight.
so $1500 for retail is a fair price FOR THE MOMENT.
but you are right, there are more and more blue eyes these days, and they may drop to a more acceptable price next year.

galatic
12-29-2008, 2:31 PM
I dont know if this is true, but a importer recently told me that they might ban on limit the ammount of blue eyes being exported next year. Like onlt 20 a year or so. That would totally wipe them out of the trade

Patatl3
01-02-2009, 11:51 AM
L-137 is the Rusty Blue Eyed PLeco (hypostomus Soniae). The Panaque Cochliodon is the true very rare Pleco. Id love to get my hands on one! I have my L-137 for now still a pretty fish!
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Patatl3
01-02-2009, 12:02 PM
P.S. Get yourself some New Life Spectrum H20 Stable Algae wafers. I have 5 Bristlenose,a Vampire, and a Blue Eye who all love right before the lights out dropping 4-5 in they go nuts. along with there diet of my plants, driftwood, and my very generous frozen blood worms and spirolina brine shrimp. Plecos have a varied diet and should never be feed just one food there whole life. Best of luck! If you get tired of your blue eye hes always welcome in my tank. : )

dogofwar
01-02-2009, 3:13 PM
I had a Blue Eye Panaque back in the day. I think I paid $19.99 for it. People called them the poor man's royal pleco :)

It lived in a 55g community of SA cichlids (geophagus and stuff) ...hung out on some driftwood... and lived for several years growing to nearly a foot. It died when it got its head stuck in a piece of driftwood and couldn't extract itself. Getting him out stressed him out and he died a couple weeks later.

Nice fish but more for bragging about having than the fish itself. Hopefully they'll be back to $20-30 soon!

I'd put some other fish in with it in a 75g. Maybe some barbs or not-too-aggressive cichlids. Once weekly water changes would be more than enough. They're not difficult to keep or sensitive.

galatic
01-04-2009, 8:48 PM
Patat13 I'll never get tired of BLUEY :) . BLUEY is doing awesome in his tank. I do weekly 50 percent water changes. Its just him in the 75 gallon aquarium ( cause I think he loves having all the free space to roam and call his own ). I will never sell him. He is not only a rare specimen but a show male. BLUEY is family now :)

lee1
01-04-2009, 11:35 PM
Patat13 I'll never get tired of BLUEY :) . BLUEY is doing awesome in his tank. I do weekly 50 percent water changes. Its just him in the 75 gallon aquarium ( cause I think he loves having all the free space to roam and call his own ). I will never sell him. He is not only a rare specimen but a show male. BLUEY is family now :)How did you sex yours?I have a 14 incher and I have no idea the sex, and they are alittle territorial towards other plecos have mine with a goldy, galaxy and gold line royal.

aro-discus
01-05-2009, 5:08 PM
IDK, saw a pic somewhere of the blue eyes male genital thingy, somewhere online. here yah go.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/image.php?image_id=9320

gotta check by its dodo hole. Any way to tell if ones a female or not?

killerfish
01-05-2009, 10:09 PM
I love the eyes on those plecs but even if there extreamly rare $1500 doesn't seem worth it to me there just to dull of a pleco

romosoldier
01-05-2009, 11:39 PM
wow, very nice pleco, i only have 3 common plecos, the largest is about 8', its in a 55g tank, im going to be getting some albino bristle nose soon, and hopefully going to set up a second 45g tank.

lee1
01-06-2009, 12:56 AM
I paid 900 for mine from a petshop in Mobile Alabama.The black body and blue eyes makes a interesting contrast.

wato
01-06-2009, 1:57 AM
sweet~ pleco that size should have a tank all to his own~:ROFL:

aro-discus
01-06-2009, 4:43 PM
so anyone gotta clue on how to spot a female panaque since I found the male pics?

Coryd55
01-13-2009, 10:00 PM
Lets see you know how to tell if its a male. So if its not a male then it must be.....A FEMALE! There's your answer...

Nice fish but why would you pay $1500 for a fish when it seems you know nothing about it or what it needs....just my opinion

syndicate
01-14-2009, 12:57 AM
Lets see you know how to tell if its a male. So if its not a male then it must be.....A FEMALE! There's your answer...

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

snakebite22
01-14-2009, 1:01 AM
i've been debating getting a 6in for 600.00 thought that was a bit high till i saw what you paid maybe i will get it.

lee1
01-15-2009, 2:44 PM
i've been debating getting a 6in for 600.00 thought that was a bit high till i saw what you paid maybe i will get it.I have never seen a 6 inch blue eye would rather have that than my 14 incher.

fishman646
01-15-2009, 2:50 PM
yeah my guess is he got it from riverwonders

aro-discus
01-21-2009, 4:37 PM
Lets see you know how to tell if its a male. So if its not a male then it must be.....A FEMALE! There's your answer...

Nice fish but why would you pay $1500 for a fish when it seems you know nothing about it or what it needs....just my opinion


very funny wise ass.

ever consider its not always visable.....I guess not......but thanks for your valuable insight into sexing plecos.

Why are you asking me why someone would pay 1500? IDK, maybe you should ask someone who has one that paid that much. :screwy: