View Full Version : Big enough to identify?
Miguel
11-30-2008, 5:44 AM
this is the small hybrid I posted a couple of months ago...was then labelled as TSNxMarble.
Confirm?:)
krisRTC
11-30-2008, 6:12 AM
to me that looks like a TSN X RTC X Marble pim or leiarius mamoratus cuz i have a TSNXRTC and a Marble pim and it looks like what i think would be the outcome if they were to breed hope that helps
lophius
11-30-2008, 11:41 AM
it looks to be a cross bewteen TSN - P. corruscans and L. pictus - reasons - rather than L marmoratus - head shape, dorsal fin hight and size and the pale stripe on the side above the lateral line. - beautiful fish.
carl
Miguel
11-30-2008, 12:24 PM
First time I hear that there are more than 1 on 1 viable crossings....
Lets see what Necro and Basslover have to say....
krisRTC
11-30-2008, 1:08 PM
the reason i say it is a 3 way cross hybrid is that the white stomach is very much like a RTC than just a shovelnose, i have seen something simialr to this in the LFS, what does any1 else think?
Bogwoodbruce
11-30-2008, 1:36 PM
Certainly looks like it, but im no expert.
Very nice cat either way.
Miguel
12-03-2008, 4:22 PM
Bump!
marvinbaker
12-03-2008, 4:33 PM
tsn x L.Pictus. I'd bet anything on it. The diagonal line sweeping backwards from the front base of the dorsal along the body give away the pictus rather than the marmoratus and the TSN part is obvious.
Miguel
12-03-2008, 4:36 PM
tsn x L.Pictus. I'd bet anything on it. The diagonal line sweeping backwards from the front base of the dorsal along the body give away the pictus rather than the marmoratus and the TSN part is obvious.
Of course, Marvin, that the TSN is obvious. But are you sure on the Pictus? If so, what would its size be?
marvinbaker
12-03-2008, 4:54 PM
Of course, Marvin, that the TSN is obvious. But are you sure on the Pictus? If so, what would its size be?
just trying to find a few useable pics. in this thread of a pictus by zaric
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32740[/URL]
you can see the line i am talking about that your fish clearly has. if i'm right then this line may have been even more prominent when juvenile with another thinner line from toward the end of the base of the dorsal going towards the tail in a wiggly line.
the marmoratus does not have this as you can see in this thread
[URL]http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62187&highlight=Leiarius+marmoratus (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119248&highlight=Leiarius+pictus)
I would imagine you are looking at a size of anything from 24" to 40". God knows!! But i think somewhere around 30" would be my guess.
polish
12-03-2008, 4:58 PM
Awesome looking cat.
Miguel
12-03-2008, 5:22 PM
You're right, Marvin, about the white line...but never would have thought of the Pictus.....
marvinbaker
12-03-2008, 5:28 PM
glad to be of assistance.
FavCatfish
12-03-2008, 7:21 PM
Whatever it is, i love it!
TheFishJunky
12-03-2008, 7:23 PM
marble sailfin CAT/shovel imo
lophius
12-04-2008, 2:49 PM
thats EXACTLY what I said only 3/4 of the page higher - glad that at least two of us on here can ID fish !!!!! (ha ha)
carl
IveGotTheBestTank
12-04-2008, 3:22 PM
:drool:
i am honestly drooling
thats an awsome cat never seen a cross like that :drool:
Miguel
12-04-2008, 4:38 PM
Drool away, my friend, hehe
basslover34
01-06-2009, 8:50 AM
can't beleive I missed this thread... see what happens when your gone for awhile... good thing I'm arrogant and searched my name LOL :grinno:
Definetly Still a TSN X Marble The line that you see is also due to the TSN portion... As with most TSN Crosses you are bound to see a few Odd markings which will change alot during the course of it's life.
Miguel
01-06-2009, 12:27 PM
can't beleive I missed this thread... see what happens when your gone for awhile... good thing I'm arrogant and searched my name LOL :grinno:
Definetly Still a TSN X Marble The line that you see is also due to the TSN portion... As with most TSN Crosses you are bound to see a few Odd markings which will change alot during the course of it's life.
Jeesus, it took you a long time intervening...( not to mention Necros absence in this thread of mine , hehehe)
Dovii dude
01-06-2009, 1:45 PM
Bass you ae the man!!!
basslover34
01-06-2009, 2:05 PM
Jeesus, it took you a long time intervening...( not to mention Necros absence in this thread of mine , hehehe)
Well with the lack of color on my name I tend not to spend much time here lately :grinno:
basslover34
01-06-2009, 2:06 PM
Bass you ae the man!!!
:headbang2I'm the man .... thats late to the party!!! LOL
fishlover88
01-06-2009, 3:24 PM
Im gonna have to agree with bass on this one. While it is possible that L. Pictus was used. I think its very unlikely. This particular fish i somewhat rare in the hobby depite its more reasonable size and absolutely beautiful pattern.
PS. my lfs told me last week that he could get me anything i wanted. and L. pictus was the first thing that popped in my head. So look out for pictures towards the end of the week if i am lucky enough. It would be my luck he would get more marbles and try to pass it off as pictus.
oscar n redtail cat
01-06-2009, 3:31 PM
tsn x marble cat 100% sure
basslover34
01-06-2009, 6:51 PM
It would be my luck he would get more marbles and try to pass it off as pictus.
Thats the common practice with exporters and the Poor LFS gets stuck with the fish because it's a bad ID from the Exporter... I hoope your able to get one though
ctoychik
01-06-2009, 7:49 PM
I can't believe i missed this thread too ^^
Looks great, Miguel ...whatever it is. I say (in my non-expert opinion) that he has some marble blood in him for sure. Certainly the general body shape is there imo. The head shape is not marble pims though.
How big is he now?
fishlover88
01-06-2009, 11:42 PM
Thats the common practice with exporters and the Poor LFS gets stuck with the fish because it's a bad ID from the Exporter... I hoope your able to get one though
Yeah i know. So i dont have my hopes up too high. But *fingers crossed* maybe.
Miguel
01-07-2009, 8:29 AM
I can't believe i missed this thread too ^^
Looks great, Miguel ...whatever it is. I say (in my non-expert opinion) that he has some marble blood in him for sure. Certainly the general body shape is there imo. The head shape is not marble pims though.
How big is he now?
Getting bigger everyday.....
aquaman45
01-11-2009, 4:03 PM
I agree with my pal Lophius,definitely L.pictus but not too sure what else,its so similar in colour to L.pictus that i wouldnt think there are any shovel nose species involved,i reckon L.pictus X L.marmoratus,the only thing that is possibly shovel nose is the sharper longer head study.....puzzling.
nishant_datta
01-11-2009, 5:03 PM
hey miguel, real nice find mate. I agree with krisrtc that it kinda looks like a cross between a marbled pim and a TSNXRTC. beautiful fish.
le patron
01-11-2009, 5:05 PM
looks like a tsn x marble now that i look at it
Red Devil
01-11-2009, 5:31 PM
All I know is~~~~~ That is some beautiful, beautiful CAT!
digger123
01-11-2009, 5:35 PM
nice cat
doubledragon
12-20-2009, 11:22 AM
Hey beutifull cat, can I see some updates on this fish. I just now seen them available and think they are very cool cat's.
Ive got no idea what it is but its a nice cat,any more pics?
Steve