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jp80911
12-17-2008, 9:42 AM
I'm waiting to get a shoal of baby caribes but no one is selling them now and no one knows when they'll be available. One of the vendor here may still have some piraya in stock so I'm thinking should I get a shoal of pirayas instead? how different between caribes and pirayas other than size and coloration? I've read somewhere saying caribes are usually more agressive and some info says pirayas are the most aggressive in they pygo family. anyone had both and what's your experience with them?
I know some will say it all comes down to the individual fish (that is true) but I want to know which one is more agressive and the less skittish on average.
Also thought about a mix shoal of caribes and piraya but I don't have an additional grow out tank available so if I can't get them at the same time then mix shoal is out of question unless I can find similar size when the time comes.
the tank I'll be keep them in is 44"x45"x20", how many caribes and/or piraya I can keep in there for life? for filtration I have one FX5 for mechanical filtration mainly (no bio media) and the outlet goes to a 7"x30"x20" sump with ~160 pot scrubbies for bio filtration. have some live plants and two decent size driftwood. I'll see if I can post some picture of the tank when I get home tonight.
any suggestion/comment is welcomed.
jp80911
12-17-2008, 9:29 PM
bump, no one had experience with both pygos?
if you have only one of those two you can also post your experience with it. some pictures of the fish would be nice too.
i have a shoal of piraya... they are awesome.
you will need a little bigger tank for piraya when they get bigger. like in a 180 i would not put more than 5. they are def. the most impressive shoal.
DucatiDragster
12-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Mix them both. They are both gorgeous!
jp80911
12-18-2008, 9:32 AM
i have a shoal of piraya... they are awesome.
you will need a little bigger tank for piraya when they get bigger. like in a 180 i would not put more than 5. they are def. the most impressive shoal.
are they skittish at all? I was thinking may 3 to 5 the most too.
do you have any recent picture of your piraya or maybe a whole tank shot? as for color I see most pirayas are either yellow or organe, are there also red?
DrUgS
12-18-2008, 10:39 AM
Gotta go with piraya!
akskirmish
12-18-2008, 11:07 AM
Buddy has a tank with 50 caribe in it---It sure is damn impressive to see amd watch...
I have had a shoals of piraya as well....Still prefer these caribe..
jp80911
12-18-2008, 12:37 PM
Buddy has a tank with 50 caribe in it---It sure is damn impressive to see amd watch...
I have had a shoals of piraya as well....Still prefer these caribe..
What size are the caribes and what size tank he has? must be a HUGE tank if he's going to keep all 50 in there for life.
Do you see any issue to house 12 caribes in my tank for life? probably better with 8 but "I have a dozen caribes" just sounds much better. :naughty:
should I add more filtration? or that'll be enough?
akskirmish
12-18-2008, 12:48 PM
What size are the caribes and what size tank he has? must be a HUGE tank if he's going to keep all 50 in there for life.
Do you see any issue to house 12 caribes in my tank for life? probably better with 8 but "I have a dozen caribes" just sounds much better. :naughty:
should I add more filtration? or that'll be enough?
Rule of thumb would be 20 gal for every pygo......But I tend to go with over stocked tanks-
I dont know your knowledge on Piranha so I wont recommend an overstocked tank for you----
IMO-
Piraya seems to cannibilize eachother alot more than Caribe-Caribe seem to fin nip and such alot more though...
Either would look impressive-I seem to like tanks more with one species instead of mixed-But that all certainl personal preference....
Filtration seems fine if went with recomended piranha for space given..Piraya can get huge-Alot bigger than caribe can..Just take forever to grow them up.
akskirmish
12-18-2008, 12:49 PM
Caribes are in a 125 gal tank right now-Only little guys all under the 3 inch mark right now....Have ponds and other tanks to split them when needed....
jp80911
12-18-2008, 1:24 PM
Rule of thumb would be 20 gal for every pygo......But I tend to go with over stocked tanks-
I dont know your knowledge on Piranha so I wont recommend an overstocked tank for you----
IMO-
Piraya seems to cannibilize eachother alot more than Caribe-Caribe seem to fin nip and such alot more though...
Either would look impressive-I seem to like tanks more with one species instead of mixed-But that all certainl personal preference....
Filtration seems fine if went with recomended piranha for space given..Piraya can get huge-Alot bigger than caribe can..Just take forever to grow them up.
Thanks.
I've only had rbps before but never caribes nor piraya.
Caribes are in a 125 gal tank right now-Only little guys all under the 3 inch mark right now....Have ponds and other tanks to split them when needed....
Will your friend willing to sell me 8-12 caribes now :)
go for 3-5 piraya. you will not be disapointed
frontosablkrhom
12-21-2008, 10:43 PM
caribes are cooler and cheaper imo jp knows what to do ;) wait it out
jp80911
12-22-2008, 9:00 AM
caribes are cooler and cheaper imo jp knows what to do ;) wait it out
waiting now. :)
someone from p-fury told me that there's a vendor/lfs that has caribes now (~3") and will find out price for me and give me the address.
still waiting to hear back from that person.
if price is right and not too far then I'll probably go pick some up during my Xmas break. Will see...worst case is to wait for aquascape. :)
dudey
12-22-2008, 10:38 PM
waiting now. :)
someone from p-fury told me that there's a vendor/lfs that has caribes now (~3") and will find out price for me and give me the address.
still waiting to hear back from that person.
if price is right and not too far then I'll probably go pick some up during my Xmas break. Will see...worst case is to wait for aquascape. :)
im pretty sure shark aquarium has caribes in right now for 26 each. I inquired for a quote on shipping for them and waiting to here back. Check it out.
jp80911
12-23-2008, 6:13 AM
im pretty sure shark aquarium has caribes in right now for 26 each. I inquired for a quote on shipping for them and waiting to here back. Check it out.
really? I should give them a call today then, last time I called they only had one left and was $75 and only 2~3", I was like WOW, i'll get a piraya for that price.
Thanks dudey.
jp80911
12-23-2008, 9:31 AM
just called S.A. they don't have any. :(
Either they are gone very quickly or they updated their website too late.
cichlaguapote
12-23-2008, 12:37 PM
I prefer piraya.. just better looking piranha to me.. just me though..
akskirmish
12-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Sorry-
Shipping from here would kill the expeience.....
No need to Rape you on the price-Otherwise I would....
dudey
12-23-2008, 12:49 PM
just called S.A. they don't have any. :(
Either they are gone very quickly or they updated their website too late.
gotcha, I just saw on their website they had them, but I guess its not updated that often
asianeagle87
12-23-2008, 12:51 PM
i owned 3 caribe and two servived. if you plan of getting any plan on getting 10 or more
jp80911
12-23-2008, 1:15 PM
Sorry-
Shipping from here would kill the expeience.....
No need to Rape you on the price-Otherwise I would....
thanks for watching out for me :D
gotcha, I just saw on their website they had them, but I guess its not updated that often
I didn't see it on their website before, then it's there. got my hopes up until I called. :( just have to keep on waiting, if you find out a vendor that has some, please pm me.
thanks
i owned 3 caribe and two servived. if you plan of getting any plan on getting 10 or more
I'm thinking about 8-12
random fish guy
12-23-2008, 1:17 PM
mix them
thanks for watching out for me :D
I didn't see it on their website before, then it's there. got my hopes up until I called. :( just have to keep on waiting, if you find out a vendor that has some, please pm me.
thanks
I'm thinking about 8-12
Will do, Ive been looking for a few myself and a brandtii so if I see some ill let you know.
jp80911
12-23-2008, 5:11 PM
Thanks dudey, if I find some will let you know too.
master.k.
12-24-2008, 10:00 PM
Mix umm !
Thanks dudey, if I find some will let you know too.
"I am trying to get things current again. Last week, a test file was loaded, showing 1.5" caribe.... sorry.
We have to wait until May/June for those.
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He just wanted to get everyone's hopes up:nilly:. Also took down the brandtii I wanted to buy, looks like I will never get one:cry:.
I thought there was only a short period of time when caribe would be available for sale, and I guess its not until late spring.
jp80911
12-29-2008, 5:40 AM
dudey,
found a store in Maryland that has them in stock, $30 each. a little too far for me to just drive down there but if you feel like a road trip then pm me and I'll give you the store info.
too bad that they don't ship.
dudey,
found a store in Maryland that has them in stock, $30 each. a little too far for me to just drive down there but if you feel like a road trip then pm me and I'll give you the store info.
too bad that they don't ship.
I have to go to md today to help my dad move some of his stuff out of his town house to our house!! where is the store!!!! :headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2
jp80911
12-29-2008, 3:32 PM
I have to go to md today to help my dad move some of his stuff out of his town house to our house!! where is the store!!!! :headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2
PM sent hopefully you gets it before you head out.