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monticellomanderin
03-14-2006, 11:45 PM
:eek: ARE THEY BAD FOR A REEF TANK???

Don4921
03-15-2006, 9:15 AM
not sure never used them

mainy999
03-15-2006, 11:24 AM
personally i dont use HOB filters. If you are going for a reef tank, you are going to be investing alot of money in the tank. imo, if you want a good filter, get a good canister (eheim or Fluval) or a wet/dry.

Nic
03-15-2006, 3:57 PM
i swear by refugiums bio wheels will not hurt the tank at all but if you use a canitser or hob filter use it for mechanical filtration only and clean it every week

guppy
03-15-2006, 5:02 PM
I have heard that biowheels do have one problem in salt and brackish tanks, they collect salt accretion.

Don4921
03-16-2006, 9:46 AM
I have heard that biowheels do have one problem in salt and brackish tanks, they collect salt accretion.
that is true i would use a wetdry

fatsolomon
03-16-2006, 5:03 PM
i have a biowheel on both brackish and full salt. neither of them has had buildup, ever.

Don4921
03-17-2006, 9:30 AM
if you dont have to use them then dont

craig
03-17-2006, 11:50 AM
Wetdry and a penguin 350double biowheel.Works fantastic.[IMG]

craig
03-17-2006, 11:58 AM
Wetdry like this one.[IMG]

guppy
03-17-2006, 2:23 PM
i have a biowheel on both brackish and full salt. neither of them has had buildup, ever.
That is good, I don't have any salt or brackish tanks but a friend stopped using biowheels after salt buildup kept occurring at the axle of the wheel, He might have had it set up where it got excessive splashback.

DigitalFiction
03-18-2006, 1:35 PM
On my 58 marine I used to have just my Emperor 400 and I never saw any build up on the wheels from the salt. But as posted above I wouldn't use them on a reef unless you want them there for a piece of mind. Definitely go with a refugium.

koliveira
03-18-2006, 1:38 PM
Bio wheels are a great source of denitrfication. Don't run the carbon insert though it will lower your PH. Just cut a spounge to fit the space.

thefishofdoom
03-18-2006, 11:25 PM
dont use bio wheels on a reef they cause unwanted nitrates.

Nic
03-19-2006, 12:28 PM
plenty of live rock and sand would be best with a good wet dry of refugium

Lepomis
03-20-2006, 11:59 PM
I would go with a refugium and pull the Biowheels off the power filter, cause unnessary nitrates.

Konrade
03-21-2006, 6:50 PM
Refugium with lr rubble and macroalgae sump with skimmer and instead of bio balls put in lr. I skimmer is waht you really need to invest in. It is amazing how much crap they collect. About the bio wheels, they don't do much because the lr and sand provides all the bio filtration, the bio wheels just provide a place to harbor nitrates

fish_master2000
01-18-2009, 10:23 PM
:eek: ARE THEY BAD FOR A REEF TANK???
yes they are, the salts and proteins will clog the bio-wheel and will stop it.
so really there not bad but pointless

puffcrusader696
01-20-2009, 8:06 PM
if its a small reef tank or just saltwater in general a wet/dry shouldnt be used as they increase phosphate levels.

Dr Joe
01-23-2009, 12:15 PM
yes they are, the salts and proteins will clog the bio-wheel and will stop it.
so really there not bad but pointless

That's just part of filter maintenance.

srikamaraja
04-04-2009, 3:05 PM
There is a store in Vernon, CT called "Wet Pets". They use Bio-wheel filtration on all of their tanks, fresh, brackish, and salt, and they run no skimmers. They have some of the most fantastic reef tanks I have ever seen, they run a fragging operation, and they even have a tank with a 6 foot moray eel (his name is Ernie).

Nitrates and Phosphates are the end-product of an efficient biofilter, which is a necessary component of any system. A biowheel or bioballs will not create any more nitrate or phosphates than your live rock will. The only thing that will create 'unneccessary' or 'unwanted' levels are lack of maintenance, overstocking, or overfeeding.

mkman
04-04-2009, 3:12 PM
get a skimmer or a refugium and you'll be good. The live rock in your tank will take care of everything else.

If you have a huge bioload or certain corals like sps, then get a refugium and a skimmer

But a hob is fine though if you want that.

cichlid keeper
04-04-2009, 4:27 PM
canister filters take alot of the oxygen out of the waterthats why they say not to use them for discus for this reason!i dont know how much oxygen salt tanks need . i do cichlids only just my 2 cents