View Full Version : DIY : 24/7 New Water Drip System
neoprodigy
03-15-2006, 12:31 PM
Water Changes... do you love doing them? Well I'm tired of the doing water changes every other day on 18+ tanks...
The 24/7 drip system is a constant drip of "new" water and any excess water will overflow out the tank through the drains. Similar to a Overflow filter except it has a much slower flow rate.
Here's how my system works:
Water -> (filter) -> Aged water Barrel -> Tank -> Overflow -> drain/sink/lawn
----- Aged Water Barrel----
I tap into the cold water pipe
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07637.JPG
the aged water barrel
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07658.JPG
you have to get Float Valve!! or your place will be flooded!
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07680.JPG
the pump that pumps water into tanks
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07682.JPG
to age the water you must aerate the water 24/7
I have an air stone in the barrel but I didn't think it was enough, so Ii added a pump to circulate the water even more.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07638.JPG
circulated back in to the barrel.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07640.JPG
Spray bar helps spread the water around
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07672.JPG
you see the yellow quick disconnect ? why the quick disconnect?
It's just incase I need to do a quick water change :D
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07643.JPG
----- DRILL TANK----
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07670.JPG
if you want the water level to be higher, all you have to do is add an extention to allow the water level to rise.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07666.JPG
----- NON DRILL TANK----
here is how the overflow works
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/overflow-2.jpg
here is a DIY version its much cheaper and works the same way
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/neooverflow.jpg
----- How to build a Neoprodigy DIY overflow----
Im using a 1-1/4 pvc pipe
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07625.JPG
PVC primer and cement
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07630.JPG
primer the ends
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07631.JPG
when its all cemented
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07628.JPG
----- installing the drip----
New water to the tanks
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07655.JPG
the flow valve
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07653.JPG
the drip
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07675.JPG
----- install the over flow----
I use zip ties to secure it to the pole
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07646.JPG
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07648.JPG
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07645.JPG
make sure you line the water line correctly
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07650-x.jpg
you see the vinyl pipe from the tank to the overflow?
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07651.JPG
if you have time you can use pvc piping instead
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07664.JPG
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07665.JPG
to start the siphon process I use a pump to quick start it. Pump the water until it starts to flow out of the tube.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07685.JPG
This Setup Drains to the Sink
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07649.JPG
My other setup is set to drain to the AC draining system
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/mfkarticle/247/DSC07710-x.jpg
UPDATE : For Chloramine water.. check this setup
24/7 New Water changer (chemical Way) (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74275)
looks very good neo thank you for sharing im gonna put one in the works for my tanks very soon
FishHeadSoup
03-15-2006, 3:30 PM
SWEET setup Neo, wish i could hire somebody to do this in my house!
anybody know anybody that does this in Cali? PM me!
Fish_are_fishfood
03-15-2006, 3:32 PM
:jaw: :jaw: You are an aquarium drip system genius, or shoud I say prodigy :headbang2 Now just come over to my house and make one for me :D
neoprodigy
03-15-2006, 3:33 PM
if you shoot a video of your location of your tank.. i probally let you know how you can set the say way
DeLgAdO
03-15-2006, 3:46 PM
bravo Li!! :clap :clap :clap
how much water do you drip?(gph?)
DeLgAdO
03-15-2006, 3:48 PM
hey whats purple primer do?
neoprodigy
03-15-2006, 3:52 PM
primer is to "clean" the pipe...
OrnatipinnisBichir
03-15-2006, 3:54 PM
first time seeing something like that
DeLgAdO
03-15-2006, 3:58 PM
primer is to "clean" the pipe...
i use water and a paper towel :D
neoprodigy
03-15-2006, 3:58 PM
i use water and a paper towel :D
you have to do that first then add the primer...
werdna
03-15-2006, 3:58 PM
hope it works just fine without gettin a pool in ur house lol
neoprodigy
03-15-2006, 3:59 PM
hope it works just fine without gettin a pool in ur house lol
its been working for the past 3 years?
DeLgAdO
03-15-2006, 4:17 PM
you have to do that first then add the primer...
you need the primer? :confused:
PhullTank57
03-15-2006, 4:17 PM
Brilliantly executed, Li! :thumbsup: Very very nice, very convenient. Do you do house calls... International??!! :D
all i can see is a load of pipes. i really don't understand these things (dont worry bout trying to explain, i still wont get it lol) :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
unknownuza13
03-15-2006, 4:46 PM
Awesome set up Li, You did a good job explaining the steps. I think I will go home and try some DIY fun..
neoprodigy
03-15-2006, 4:48 PM
Awesome set up Li, You did a good job explaining the steps. I think I will go home and try some DIY fun..
if you need in home help you know where to find me
rallysman
03-15-2006, 5:04 PM
Great system Li. I need to get one done on mine asap.
thats a sweet set up Li very well executed
toxicfish
03-15-2006, 7:49 PM
you need the primer? :confused: you should use it. It helps the cement stick better... kinda like painting a car, primer makes for a good surface for the paint to adheire to.
rottbo
03-15-2006, 9:08 PM
i need to set one up on my ponds
redtailfool
03-15-2006, 9:15 PM
Awsome Neo.. Weve talked about this from the very beggining . Can you incorporate a system where you can put water treatment into the age barrel ? NJ has chloramine and it wont go away with aeration.
DeLgAdO
03-15-2006, 9:17 PM
Awsome Neo.. Weve talked about this from the very beggining . Can you incorporate a system where you can put water treatment into the age barrel ? NJ has chloramine and it wont go away with aeration.
24/7 drip conditioner? :ROFL:
Princley
03-15-2006, 9:19 PM
Neo thats very Fing cool man
Princley
03-15-2006, 9:20 PM
if my pipes would only drip out Salt water i'd have it made
neoprodigy
03-15-2006, 11:36 PM
Awsome Neo.. Weve talked about this from the very beggining . Can you incorporate a system where you can put water treatment into the age barrel ? NJ has chloramine and it wont go away with aeration.
you can install a dosing system ;)
Pangong_ilong
03-15-2006, 11:42 PM
Wow, nice setup. It's a lil complicated for me. Wish i have my own house and do that system.
Steve_89
03-15-2006, 11:53 PM
Well done brud ;)
mcblack
03-16-2006, 12:49 AM
hey neo cool system, do you still make water changes or the drip system works great that you don't need to perform water changes?
neoprodigy
03-16-2006, 1:21 AM
hey neo cool system, do you still make water changes or the drip system works great that you don't need to perform water changes?
water change is so 2002... LOL... we are in 2006 !! :ROFL:
DeLgAdO
03-16-2006, 2:57 AM
water change is so 2002... LOL... we are in 2006 !! :ROFL:
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
joeytoe
03-16-2006, 1:47 PM
you have to do that first then add the primer...
Primer isnt really needed just adds a extra level to ensure you have a water tight seal, I only use Primer if the Pipe is going to be under a fair amount of pressure.
cougar579
03-17-2006, 11:22 PM
Damn thats crazy bro, Bravo for coming up with the idea and putting it to work.
DIESELMACK
03-17-2006, 11:30 PM
very nice li :thumbsup: I am more of a minimalist and like things simplistic and would worry too much about a failure of the powerhead in the aging bin or a leak somewhere along the lines....I go for straight pipes and compact efficiency myself but always like those who dabble and DIY...makes for new ideas and creative filtration...as everyone with a big tank knows...store bought filters just dont do it like a DIY system....dont get me wrong in my writings...I have a system that is all DIY and would seem quite complex to the unknowing, but it is simple compared to your drip system. very nice step by step also....if I am in the market to do a set-up as complex I will give you a call and you can come up for some of the free beer we talked about :grinyes: :grinno: :grinyes: ........ :thumbsup:
rayman45
03-18-2006, 7:45 PM
i gotta pay the house of li a visit
softturtle
03-18-2006, 7:58 PM
just got done changing about 200 gal of water and I find this thread. :swear: You right Li, I'm totally stuck in 2002.
Pete Lindgren
03-22-2006, 9:51 PM
you can also get clear primer.
chefdazza
03-29-2006, 4:09 AM
cool man, mind boggoling
zhuangsw
03-31-2006, 1:05 AM
neo!
seriously how long did it take u to complete this project? u really are a genius to do this!
so now no more water change at all for you?
fishnthings
03-31-2006, 1:18 AM
neat idea... something im going to have to look forward to doing in future...
say when i get about 18 tanks or so :D........
aquaoahu
04-01-2006, 4:56 PM
Did you notice a chagne with the water bill (up or down) since the installation?
bryce
04-02-2006, 10:49 PM
thats a great idea :thumbsup:
TheUnhappiest
04-12-2006, 5:01 PM
Very nice :clap
I find it a bit awkward to assemble
Too creative or too lazy...:grinyes:
Nice one bro.
boisblancboy
04-19-2006, 11:57 AM
Very cool setup. I have a setup all designed, but havent been able to use it yet, waiting for my 240 gallon tank. The nice thing for me is that I have well water and dont have to treat or age my water. So, all I have to do is tap into my cold water line, probably with either 1/4" copper or plastic tubing. The line will run from the cold water line near my heating ducts for the house to take the chill off of the water before it gets to the tank, that way my heaters are doing any more work than they have to. Then line will dump directly into my tank and a valve somewhere in the line. Since my tank is going to have a wet.dry system on it, I am either going to put an overflow box in the sump or drill the sump, attach a bulkhead and run it to a drain. So this system is totally simple! The hardest part is going to be getting the valve set just perfect so that 30% of the water will be changed through the week, so approx have the line dripping about a half gallon an hour. So its will be nice no water changes, of course there still will have to be gravel cleanings, but no big deal. So what do you guys think?
doubleA
04-19-2006, 5:31 PM
pretty complicated looking:confused: :confused:
boisblancboy
04-19-2006, 6:58 PM
Nah it is really quite simple. Once I get going on it I will take tons of pictures to show how it works!
limz_777
05-07-2006, 1:34 PM
great idea, its better you can hook up d waste water pipe to the toilet bowl holding flush tank.
Nice, Nice, Nice :woot: but a little complicated to follow those pics.
I've been thinking of the same sort of thing, but I was going to use a larger flow and overflow into an emergent plant filter bed, then recycle the water back into the system. Reccon this would remove enough of the fish wates?
neoprodigy
05-11-2006, 7:46 AM
great idea, its better you can hook up d waste water pipe to the toilet bowl holding flush tank.
the "waste" water is pump to the backyard to water the grass... i have to say... my grass are greener than the front ;)
fishnthings
05-11-2006, 8:05 AM
haha... genius
neoprodigy
05-11-2006, 8:19 AM
haha... genius
hmmm all the fish waste water will drip into the gator snapping turtle tubs first before it get pumps out ;)
fishnthings
05-11-2006, 8:26 AM
what... you have gator snappers too?:D... must see pics li:grinyes:
ELDODEVILLE
06-08-2006, 10:08 PM
That is one of the smartest things I have seen.
rallysman
06-08-2006, 10:27 PM
Very cool setup. I have a setup all designed, but havent been able to use it yet, waiting for my 240 gallon tank. The nice thing for me is that I have well water and dont have to treat or age my water. So, all I have to do is tap into my cold water line, probably with either 1/4" copper or plastic tubing. The line will run from the cold water line near my heating ducts for the house to take the chill off of the water before it gets to the tank, that way my heaters are doing any more work than they have to. Then line will dump directly into my tank and a valve somewhere in the line. Since my tank is going to have a wet.dry system on it, I am either going to put an overflow box in the sump or drill the sump, attach a bulkhead and run it to a drain. So this system is totally simple! The hardest part is going to be getting the valve set just perfect so that 30% of the water will be changed through the week, so approx have the line dripping about a half gallon an hour. So its will be nice no water changes, of course there still will have to be gravel cleanings, but no big deal. So what do you guys think?
you can do exactly what you are doing without having to dial in the valve. Just get a pressure regulator and a drip irrigation emitter (they are preset to X gph) and you're done.
Its what I use and it works very very well.
ewurm
06-08-2006, 10:45 PM
Nice, Nice, Nice :woot: but a little complicated to follow those pics.
I've been thinking of the same sort of thing, but I was going to use a larger flow and overflow into an emergent plant filter bed, then recycle the water back into the system. Reccon this would remove enough of the fish wates?
Depends on how many fish, if you are seriously understocked yes, otherwise, no.
Waverz
06-10-2006, 9:55 PM
I would like to setup a system like this, the problem is my municipal water contains chlorimines. What could i use to eliminate them before they reah the tank. Would carbon remove them?
rallysman
09-17-2006, 2:39 PM
I would like to setup a system like this, the problem is my municipal water contains chlorimines. What could i use to eliminate them before they reah the tank. Would carbon remove them?
I use a carbon filter and a drip emitter system on mine. I'm not sure if the pictures are working but here is my version:http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27474
skillzdatkillz
09-17-2006, 3:25 PM
pics dont work, I just see red x's
dannyboy
10-23-2006, 8:36 AM
pics dont work, I just see red x's
Yeah, i get that too.
is there anywhere we (well I) can go to see the pics?
aaronskwod
10-23-2006, 9:40 AM
no pic's for me either?:irked:
Oscarboyz
11-01-2006, 3:47 PM
nice
ozz465
11-01-2006, 5:07 PM
Any pics???????
willys-1
11-01-2006, 5:32 PM
I can't see the pics either!!
johnptc
11-07-2006, 8:33 PM
I would like to setup a system like this, the problem is my municipal water contains chlorimines. What could i use to eliminate them before they reah the tank. Would carbon remove them?
DIY : 24/7 New Water Drip System
how do you get rid of chlorimines ??
they are not added to water everywhere but if they are added in your area they need to be dealt with chemically...eg prime etc:( :( :(
i have a solution for this for large systems....i will do a diy article..:WHOA: :WHOA: :WHOA: :WHOA: :WHOA:
koudys
11-07-2006, 9:49 PM
thats nuts
That is awesome but i think the olds would definitely drown me in one of my tanks if i tried this....they have always threatened me but this would definitely push them over the line LOL
docnelson2000
04-08-2007, 9:35 AM
Like many articles on this website - amazing, ingenious and creative but please include a price estmation and how you obtain the funds to pay for these super projects!!
Cheers
Chris
Xavier21
04-30-2007, 8:33 PM
wow looks like you spent a really long time working on it
Aquaman_95
06-19-2007, 3:51 AM
It looks really nice. Cool
fishboyakadean
06-21-2007, 1:34 AM
dang that keeps your tanks real clean hu.
fishboyakadean
06-21-2007, 1:34 AM
dang that keeps your tanks real clean hu?
Tongue33
06-21-2007, 1:36 AM
Thats the ugliest thing I've ever seen :D No really it is :) But very effective anyway :) And thats what counts right :) Nice job :)
neoprodigy
06-21-2007, 1:40 AM
my new upgrade setup
24/7 New Water changer (chemical Way) (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74275)
flmatty
03-05-2008, 2:08 PM
looks good
Finalfire9
08-22-2008, 6:56 AM
That setup is retarded id rather just hook your tapline up to a inline icemaker filter and run a tiny line to your tank with a floatvalve at the end.
Just seems like your gonna have to time the aged water and turn the system on and off alot. On maybe a week like cycle, The problem i see it takes water more then 24+ to declorinate so you cant have a continous flow like RO filter or inline icemakefilter would give you. Nice work tho.
Finalfire9
08-22-2008, 8:37 PM
That setup is retarded id rather just hook your tapline up to a inline icemaker filter and run a tiny line to your tank with a floatvalve at the end.
Just seems like your gonna have to time the aged water and turn the system on and off alot. On maybe a week like cycle, The problem i see it takes water more then 24+ to declorinate so you cant have a continous flow like RO filter or inline icemakefilter would give you. Nice work tho.
Dumbass Finalfire that setup is good if you dont wanna buy a INline RO filter or a Icemaker filter.