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ctoychik
12-26-2008, 12:29 AM
It has all started with this thread over a month ago http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189015

Then came the political unrest in Thailand which resulted in closure of their two airports - and the long, nail biting wait has begun ... but there is always a happy ending three weeks later :D

On 19th of December 2008 - 9pm local time, the ancient treasures from Singapore has finally arrived in Laos in two boxes. One with two large aros (blue based and red) and the other one with small black, green and HBRTG, medium x-back and three plecos (one medium L600) and two smalls (L24 and 25).

So, the fish were in boxes for around 24 hours ... very unpleasant 24 hours for me hehehe, but when i opened the boxes, and saw the contents still alive the relief was really great ...

Then came the realization that black, green and HBRTG (and two L24 and 25) are morcel sized for the red and blue based (i am not aware if aros are cannibals or not but i was not about to risk three valueable fishes) ... besides the two marble pims 13"+ are more than capable of doing away with the puny aros and plecos. So i have decided to split the content of the new aquarium in two.

Blue based and Red (~12" each) plus L600 in the new set-up while the rest go into small aquarium with neon tetras and tiger barbs.

Then came the climitization. The fish were all transfered out of bag with no particular events. During the transfer it became apparent that one pleco did not take the journey so well. L24 came out of the bag completely shattered :cry:

All aros arrived with intact fins, scales and barbels. ALL aros were faded ... probably due to stress. Only blue based showed some blueness and black looked really good. X-back was quite pale too. The red was completely colorless while the rest did not have color due to their age.

So that was the end of DAY 1 and midnight ... the fish room was a complete mess when i was done, but i did not have any energy to clean-up so it was left until DAY 2

PS: the cycling fish were left there: two marble pims, one green aro and a walking cat.

wmkr
12-26-2008, 1:44 AM
nice set-up bro... and congrate on the newly purchase aro... put in some black water to clam them down easier

Mobatic
12-26-2008, 1:54 AM
nice tank, its great community!

Gr8KarmaSF
12-26-2008, 1:56 AM
YUM!

What was your acclimation process? Drip? Float? etc?

RockyGoldy
12-26-2008, 2:04 AM
Well done Toy bro!

Glad to be able to see my 'babies' in another land and just sad that the L24 did not make it so well in your tank.

jmotion
12-26-2008, 2:21 AM
Nice collection you got going. Btw there's a ghost in pic #4. ;)

ctoychik
12-26-2008, 2:42 AM
The next morning was quite surreal when i was coming down to check on my new babies ... i was kinda scared to find all of them floating upside down.

What i found was quite acceptable :nilly::nilly::nilly: (errr except for L24)
See for yourself below.

Black, HBRTG and green seemed content (lots of neon tetras were missing). L25 was fine (no detereoration). L24 was dead (upside down). Heehhe i have thought to try pellets on them straight away. Black took to Hikari almost immediately. High back and green were not far behind.

Blue based was faring the best ... he has started to gain back his glorious blue hues ... X-back looked comfie but still slightly faded. the red was not so lucky ... the tail and anal fin were splitting (the rest were ok) AND he has started to acquire the slight tilt while swimming (having seen this afliction on my original green i was started to despair). L600 was hiding amongs the sponge filters.

To my horror i found that the original green was chasing the new comers around the tank. Worse, the marble pims sudden movements made the aros quite jumpy. Worse, when i tried feeding them, the pims were all over the food and swiming quite violently and "feeling" out the aros with their super long whiskers which really freaked the aros out. Nevertheless, X-back too occasional floating stick - not so for red and blue. The prawns were snatched by pims before aros could react ... decision was made - pims gotta go. But where? The original tank was still empty and awaiting setting up ... silver tank was already quite crowded ... only one place left - RTC/gar/paima land ... and so they went out.... (more on that will be posted in catfish forum). The green was relegated back to silver/jar set-up.

L600 loves peeled shrimp. When i moved a heater from sump into the tank, the L600 was all over it and sucking the algae of it as well

So, below are shots of fish on the next day.:D:D:D <sigh
PS: don't you guys think that the aros look quite puny in the 8x3 footer

PS1: to date i have not seen L25 eat yet ... he remains the only one that i have not seen eating ...

ctoychik
12-26-2008, 2:54 AM
nice set-up bro... and congrate on the newly purchase aro... put in some black water to clam them down easier

Thanxxx ;) What is black water??? They are all fine now - after i removed the tank mates :D

Well done Toy bro!

Glad to be able to see my 'babies' in another land and just sad that the L24 did not make it so well in your tank.

Thank bro,

I think it is safe to say that they have all settled in. I am a bit anxious for L25 though ... while it looks perfect and not stressed, i have not seen him eat with my own eyes. L600 is a pig ;) when it comes to eating. The two big aros are more picky when eating. But i have seen them take occasional piece of prawn.

YUM!

What was your acclimation process? Drip? Float? etc?

:naughty::naughty::naughty: i know. These are great where they are legal hehehe

Acclimation? I just floated the bags for three quarters of an hour then poured the contents of the bag into a container with a sieve at the bottom then quickly transfered the fish into the aquariums ... no struggle from fish. ... nerve wrecking exercise ... not looking to do it again


nice tank, its great community!

Thanx :D wait till HBRTG, green and black are big enough to join - should be soon judging by the amount of hikari they consume

Nice collection you got going. Btw there's a ghost in pic #4. ;)

:ROFL::ROFL: that would be my boss - the gf. she arrived earlier than my babies (to surprise me)... while admitting the fish looked faboulous, she frowned upon the price tag :ROFL::ROFL:

Steve_89
12-26-2008, 3:24 AM
Nice bro.

It must be a great feeling to receive so many asian aro at the one time :thumbsup:

wmkr
12-26-2008, 3:37 AM
Nice collection you got going. Btw there's a ghost in pic #4. ;)


if that is a ghost then i would not mind it be there... i like:headbang2

Hao
12-26-2008, 3:40 AM
OMG grATZ and nice XB

aro-lover
12-26-2008, 8:27 AM
WOW, nice collection.
I loved the long barbels of red.:)

Miguel
12-26-2008, 8:55 AM
Great pick ups!! Admond delivers!

Wait'till that blue based gains some colours! Most awesome aros!

TLkmDN
12-26-2008, 9:55 AM
wow! awesome arows bro! sorry about ure pim but thats life i guess...fatten those big boys up ASAP!

Boydo
12-26-2008, 11:16 AM
Great collection....keep us updated.


Looks very good

LemonHead
12-26-2008, 1:57 PM
Sounds like you've had a merry christmas! Congrats on your collection.
I like your aro with the top pic exposing the long pectoral fins.

ctoychik
12-26-2008, 8:56 PM
if that is a ghost then i would not mind it be there... i like:headbang2
At that particular moment, you would "mind" the "ghost" ;), cos the "ghost" was not particularly happy about the new acquisition ... lots of shmoozing was done and still more to come :naughty: ... not that i mind

Nice bro.

It must be a great feeling to receive so many asian aro at the one time :thumbsup:

Thanxxx bro, the feeling is great once they all settle in - during the transit and climatation, it was very stressful. I would have prefered to received one by one actually. If i were in Sing, i would have been buying one by one for sure. Luckily i had my tigerbarb tank handy for small aros

OMG grATZ and nice XB

XB is great and eating the most in that tank (not counting L600). Should be magnificent in no time :naughty:

WOW, nice collection.
I loved the long barbels of red.:)

The red is gaining back some color. it is current "orange". Will keep posted next week when i return for new year. Unfortunately, its tail is slightly shredded... but wounds heal

Great pick ups!! Admond delivers!

Wait'till that blue based gains some colours! Most awesome aros!


Thanx, Miguel. Indeed, he does indeed delivers. It was a very pleasant transaction. Definitely would recommend him to everyone else. With the exception of L24, all fish arrived in pristine condition .... oh well s**t happens.

Blue has gained back some color the following day, but as you know my camera and my skills are to be desired ... i am looking for a proper camera now (researching ... secretly).... i have to wait until the "ghost" goes back to Ozland heheheh

wow! awesome arows bro! sorry about ure pim but thats life i guess...fatten those big boys up ASAP!


Thankx, TL. The aros are very magical indeed. <sigh> ... it is not certain whether pim really perished - i would not know until i pick the sump apart... but i find it very lucky indeed if the one in the sump - jumped back in correct direction ... will keep posted on this in the catfish forum ^^

Errrr, how about your aro army in the making - i have been looking forward to a thread on that ;)


Great collection....keep us updated.

Looks very good


Thanx and of course i will keep updates ... need to tidy up the tanks and all that ... get new camera etc etc

Stay tuned ^^


Sounds like you've had a merry christmas! Congrats on your collection.
I like your aro with the top pic exposing the long pectoral fins.


X-mas was great. GF was back and the new fish were in da house!!!:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2

Heeheheheh - i know what you mean about top shot. The new tank has sliding (removable) covers so it is much easier to take overhead shots (unlike my silver aro tanks with hinged covers) ... the draw back is that two of the covers are fixed (i have no idea why the carpenter did that) so it makes catching fish in the tank an absolute nightmare (i tried first hand on green, and two pims ... i gave up catching claris though ... will fish him out later ... anyway he helps out with bottom cleaning for now)

More to come certainly. Asian aros are not as skittish as my silvers so much easier to photo them

nishant_datta
01-01-2009, 5:09 AM
the tank and fish look great. have u put the marbled pims in there as well ?

ctoychik
01-04-2009, 10:15 PM
Happy New Year to you all on MFK

Good and bad news all around for me.

The big aro set-up is doing great: red, blue and x-back (+L600). Clarias was moved out due to its aggressive feeding and potential nibbling on aros (it was fed to gars). After settling in, red took dislike of the similar sized blue ... they follow each other around the tank and puff up - no actual lounging, ramming or biting occured (not that i have seen) just circling around. red's fins tail is coming together nicely. X-back does not seem to be bothered by these two. Of all three aros in the tank, x-back eats the most and the growth is noticeable. Note that x-back accepts HIKARI!!! the other two only take prawn. I just figured out that blue base needs completely thawed shrimp otherwise no eating ... (and with clarias around, the blue was probably starving a little bit). Both red and blue take pellets in the mouth, but never swallow.

So red is coloring up and getting more agro (tail is definitely red and pectorial fins are redding up). Scales are still orange-ish. the head has some orange veins in them but no true red yet- but hey, it has only been two weeks ^^

Blue is only blue on the top row of scales. Of all three, he is the slowest one... but does not seem to be bothered by red too much ... but i am keeping and eye on them

x-back is doing the best. Nice and shinny though not yet 24k shiny, but still shiny. Not a picky eater either.

Overall, these three aros are not skittish though they do disturb each other i think (especially when the light is turned on). Swim in bunch (red and blue circling each other whenever the light is on).

L600 is the clean-up guys after the aros ... he does not clean algae lol he destroys the spounge filters though ... one is almost completely shredded. i hope he is not eating it ...

Worst part of the new year was the collapse of the small set-up with black, HBRTG,green (+L25) as well as some barbs and hatchets... all my prized fish are dead :swear::swear::swear: - more on that later.

angelo21
01-04-2009, 10:21 PM
nice!

Hao
01-04-2009, 10:41 PM
so ur HBRTG and black and green are dead? =( but you still have dose XB and BB and Red

ctoychik
01-05-2009, 12:23 AM
so ur HBRTG and black and green are dead? =( but you still have dose XB and BB and Red

the above mentioned fish are RIP together with L25 ... quite a loss in terms of $$$$ i really like them - it was my chance to start with small fish again

ctoychik
01-05-2009, 12:24 AM
the tank and fish look great. have u put the marbled pims in there as well ?

pims were moved outside, one was eaten by RTC - refer to catfish forum.

ctoychik
01-08-2009, 12:07 AM
So, i am bored and depressed so i post pictures of blue -based and red (found some in the camera) ... these were the best one... <sigh> ... DSLR i need now i think

Note the shine of the blue and red is also coloring up. X-back is just shiny but not quite golden (eats the most though) ^^

Blue is a picky eater. ... and eats very little (but at least daily). X-back is a pig while red is somewhere in between. I am yet to make red and blue to take hikari only X-back indulges in manufactured food

None of them are skittish like silvers ^^

sam
01-08-2009, 12:12 AM
That Blue Dragon is a really awesome......Beautiful Monsters and sorry for the loss of the others

ctoychik
01-09-2009, 8:41 PM
That Blue Dragon is a really awesome......Beautiful Monsters and sorry for the loss of the others

Thanx, sam

Oh yes, i have a confirmation from home - RED is taking HIKARI now

Remains for the blue guy to start on pellets and then i am set ^^

doods
01-10-2009, 3:57 AM
good thing the aros are ok

ctoychik
01-14-2009, 12:04 AM
Quick Update with no pix =(

The aros are fine. I have lost the battle of the wills and got them small frogs. X-back has grown considerably and so have red (comparing to blue).

Before x-back ate pellets and shrimp - but not anymore so i got desperate and got them some live food (geckos and small frogs). Manage to get x-back to start eating again.

There is no serious fighting between the three but there is under current - they puff at each other but feed OK. No damage on the red and BB but x-back is looking a little bit worse for wear on one side (visible under white light only).

Pix coming soon. Red is coloring up nicely (orange now especially on the cheeks). BB is same-ish. X-back is bigger but elongated not really fat as i expected he would be

Pix coming soon

wmkr
01-14-2009, 2:15 AM
thk's for the update bro... but really sorry for the loss... still i really love the blue based goldies u got there....:D

ctoychik
01-14-2009, 9:02 AM
thk's for the update bro... but really sorry for the loss... still i really love the blue based goldies u got there....:D

Thanks bro. The remaining fishies are doing fine but are really picky eaters =S

Good thing that heaters were in place - it is unusually cold this year.... i am worrid for outside set-up though

good thing the aros are ok

so far so good for the remaining guys ^^

ctoychik
01-19-2009, 10:04 AM
Yey everyone,

it has been one month to date since the arrival of BB, red and X-back. The red has completely overtaken the BB in size now, though coloraton wise BB is recovering better (red is still orange-ish). X-back has grown considerably, though no longer accepts HIKARI - coloration is also quite pale - gold with blue hues. ALL fish are quite shiny

They don't get along together that well, though there has not been anything too serous yet ... i am contemplating divider ...though a 3' divider will need to be custom made over here. ALl three are eating though i think i spoilt them cos they are quite capricious from day to day = i indulge them too much. L600 only eats prawns that fall to the bottom

As they are settling in, the pecking order is being tested - BB and red in particular. They really puff at each other alot and today i have observed BB trying to wrestle food out of red's mouth!!!! even though there was a frog floating nearby.

I am contemplating moving one of the larger silver aro to the set-up though i am not sure how it will be taken by the asian aros ... what about L600 and sting ray: who is going to pounce on who?

Anyway, enjoy the pix ^^

wmkr
01-20-2009, 9:24 PM
nice bro... thk's for the update's:headbang2

love ur goldies :nilly:

Hao
01-20-2009, 9:28 PM
yea love your gold but i dislike your red haha

ctoychik
01-21-2009, 7:41 PM
yea love your gold but i dislike your red haha

gold is not complete gold the red is not completely red ... they are both halfway ^^ the only one who is what it is supposed to be is L600 and BB

<sigh> ... i am separating BB and red - too much fighting when the lights go out.

ctoychik
01-26-2009, 8:58 AM
Red is really turning out to be a bully. I have the divider ready and will separate BB+X-back on one side with Red, bichir and L600 on the other side.

Hopefully BB will not turn on X-back ... X-back was slightly damaged by red (not fins but some of the scales looks slightly trashed i think)

Red is truely turning on everybody as he is getting climatized and fully settling in - he claimed the whole tank for himself. Attempts to re-introduce a similar sized green failed miserably!!! while red was not paying any attention to the new arrival (at least not yet), BB completely went haywire and was fighting with green (chasing him around the tank and snapping at him). I was rather afraid that when green recovered from shock of being moved he will turn on the them all (it was quite tricky to catch the green in such a large set-up!)...i would not do to have a cheap green kill off the treasures... so i put him back into the silver set-up where the silver aros are kings and jar shares the bottom with stingray ^^

PS: the new home for jar is ready and cycling ... more on that soon

ctoychik
02-05-2009, 4:44 AM
The pix when i attempted to mix green with BB, red and X-back ... it was meant to decrease aggression with theory of "the more of them, the less likely chance of fighting"

boy, was i wrong. The fighting erupted immediately between BB and green.

After removing green back to silver tank, BB and red hostilities resumed.

So now, BB and X-back are on one side of the divider while red is on the other side... i just hope X-back was not completely trashed by BB (no phone call so far, so i assume all is still well)

Anywho, just couple of pix of failed attempt at mixing.

ctoychik
02-05-2009, 9:53 AM
A headshot of RED which is coloring up (from a week or so ago)

still orang-ish - beauty in any case

jia123
02-05-2009, 7:01 PM
can you tell us how much they cost u? oh and i thought there was a minimum of like 12 aros or something if you got them from one of the farms.... (im new to this stuff)

ctoychik
02-05-2009, 8:19 PM
can you tell us how much they cost u? oh and i thought there was a minimum of like 12 aros or something if you got them from one of the farms.... (im new to this stuff)

you don't need to keep minimum 12. But in my case, they are fighting so they are separated. I have another successful comm tank with no problems.

You don't need to buy in large quantities from farms, they will sell you even one. See MFK Singaporean vendors. They have asian aros for sale

ctoychik
02-19-2009, 2:11 AM
The red is definitely coming along nicely in solitary. the tail and fins are now red. The pix below are taken with no lights on. Can't wait to get him to start redding his head and scales. these are getting deep orange at the moment.

Quality of pix still sux, but they were taken in a hurry last sunday as i was leaving.

PS: more on the tank mates later - they are sharing the other half of the aquarium

Dovii dude
02-20-2009, 8:43 AM
Nice Aro's you got there!

wmkr
02-22-2009, 8:40 PM
can see that the colour is coming out for ur red... may i know what size and age??? i think u can start tanning it already:D

ctoychik
02-22-2009, 8:50 PM
Nice Aro's you got there!

Thanx ^^ soon to be awesome :headbang2:headbang2:headbang2

can see that the colour is coming out for ur red... may i know what size and age??? i think u can start tanning it already:D

Tanning? You mean like using lights? I don't dare to switch on the lights right now. X-back and BB are on the other half of the aquarium - when the lights are on then off, they fight. If the light is left off, then seems to be no problem. I have ordered another 8' aquarium and cycling another 6' tank, so when there is only one fish for each space, then i will turn on the light.

I got those aros last december... the fish is less than year old i think - size is less than 1' (30cm) ...may be 25cm. BB is smaller still and X-back is even smaller

ctoychik
02-23-2009, 2:28 AM
The red guy is really coming along nicely - though not yet fully red, it is getting redder everytime i see him: check out the tail and fins as well as lips. Recently found some meal worms in Thailand so i brought back some and tried them with aros - they went completely nuts for them :D gonna use these too now (i hope my maid is not too scared of meal worms)

The 6' tank is cycling now for X-back. Another 8' tank was been ordered for 3xsilvers and jar. 7' will then be inherited by BB. Red will be in the current 8' by himself with some bottom dwellers

All the pix taken with no lights so it is natural coloring of the fish

PS: pix 5 is BB. two bottom pix are taken with a different camera

ctoychik
02-23-2009, 2:59 AM
My poor BB is not growing i think... even though he is eating and all that. X-back is growing but the color does not seem to be developing :irked: currently both are situated on the same side away from the red. They live peacefully as long as there are no changes to the lighting.

They seem to have taken to mealworms very well so they will be getting that. I have never seen these two so worked up for food. X-back does not eat frogs that require effort for swallowing. BB eats frogs and generallly live things are accepted quite readily. ... i don't know if it is my imagination but BB some times seem to be losing color and sometimes it is back to normal. ... at least he does not seemed to be too shredded ... X-back got nipped tail but nothing more serious so far. X-back will be moving in couple of weeks to 6' set-up while BB will have to wait (by himself) to inherit the 7' silver set-up when the new 8' is ready for them

PS: last pix is the x-back ... somewhat colorless ... is it normal? or is he still young? or is he too stress with the BB ...<sigh>

aquatic_wonders
02-23-2009, 3:38 AM
Wow wish I could have a tank of the best Asian aro's...:drool:

ctoychik
02-23-2009, 3:46 AM
Wow wish I could have a tank of the best Asian aro's...:drool:

:), moving out of US would be a start :D other than that only get to see these in zoos or on holidays somewhere else. I saw one big red aro in brooklyn zoo

ctoychik
03-17-2009, 5:30 AM
Check out the shine on the beasties ^^ i got them on mealworm (and X-back is loving it). Red guy just eats everything very actively. BB also goes nuts for mealworms. So, i got some worms and camera then started shooting the pix from the top.

BTW, i seem to think i am seeing some deeper colors on red's back around some of the scales - just my imagination or what?

X-back is now finally turning golden - can not capture with my camera but there are gold flakes on its head. The scales are not coloring up though. they are shiny with blue-ish hues (see some of the overhead shots). Still a little shredded from being housed with BB

BB is the same - not better not worse.

PS: how does one clean-up after mealworms? ... the aquarium the worms are in is starting to get smelly ...

selki
03-17-2009, 3:09 PM
very nice Aros in progress!

selki
03-17-2009, 3:13 PM
IDK wat u mean the XB is not coloring up but I see 5th level developing onto the 6th. this is one of those XB that comes out fine like wine

gigas12
03-17-2009, 3:22 PM
Hi,really nice collection you got there,congrats!

indiana.dutton
03-17-2009, 5:01 PM
congrats

ctoychik
03-17-2009, 9:11 PM
very nice Aros in progress!

Thanxxx, the red is my pride and joy - even if he is not the priceyest ^^ but is not a fussy eater so it is more enjoyable to feed him (her?)

The others can be quite fickle eaters ... quite annoying

IDK wat u mean the XB is not coloring up but I see 5th level developing onto the 6th. this is one of those XB that comes out fine like wine

By not coloring up i mean he is not gold (like 24k gold - but recently started to have shiny flecks of gold on his head - can not quite capture on camera just yet).

I mean i can see he is not a green aro for example (since his very shiny and metalic), the development to 6th level was there from the begining - it just did not develop some more ....<sigh> ... could it be stress from having to live with the BB? Anyway, i am moving him soon to DAT tank (since DATs are in hiding all the time anyway)

ctoychik
03-17-2009, 9:13 PM
Hi,really nice collection you got there,congrats!

Cheers ^^

congrats

Thanx for your kind words

Hao
03-17-2009, 9:23 PM
Thanxxx, the red is my pride and joy - even if he is not the priceyest ^^ but is not a fussy eater so it is more enjoyable to feed him (her?)

The others can be quite fickle eaters ... quite annoying



By not coloring up i mean he is not gold (like 24k gold - but recently started to have shiny flecks of gold on his head - can not quite capture on camera just yet).

I mean i can see he is not a green aro for example (since his very shiny and metalic), the development to 6th level was there from the begining - it just did not develop some more ....<sigh> ... could it be stress from having to live with the BB? Anyway, i am moving him soon to DAT tank (since DATs are in hiding all the time anyway)
maybe stress,or bad water

ctoychik
03-17-2009, 9:23 PM
I don't believe i ever took a clear picture of X-back before

Check him out. Not very colorful though the scale development is up to the top ...just not very golden

ctoychik
03-17-2009, 9:25 PM
maybe stress,or bad water

i doubt it is bad water - since the red is thriving, though i confess that i did not check the water this time around - i did not even have time to move x-back into DAT tank

Stress... yeah that one - xback is the only 'shredded' one on the tail. He is eating and all that (if a bit picky) and catching up with the BB in size.

Hao
03-17-2009, 9:33 PM
very nice XB

ctoychik
03-17-2009, 9:41 PM
very nice XB

can't wait for him to turn out to be a floating gold bar <sigh> time will tell - hopefully he will like to be by himself in DAT tank

Hao
03-17-2009, 9:42 PM
he will be gold just not full 24k

ctoychik
03-17-2009, 9:44 PM
he will be gold just not full 24k

hmmm, isn't 24K gold is just a commercial name for those gold aros that are ... well ... golden in color

Check out the first picture http://www.kaijuarowana.com/products.asp

Hao
03-17-2009, 9:50 PM
i thought 24k gold is gold that has higher shine o.o

wmkr
03-17-2009, 10:15 PM
nice looking goldie u have there bro...look like 24k to me:D

pressure_cooker
03-17-2009, 11:43 PM
i think 24k XB refers to XB that has a full golden head, btw your goldie is still young, it may turn to be a 24k XB after sometime, i think you should seperate your arowanas, put them in their own tanks so that it will lessen the stress and there will be no problem with food. :)

ctoychik
03-18-2009, 12:08 AM
nice looking goldie u have there bro...look like 24k to me:D

aiya, perhaps it is the lighting but it is not that gold color (a little pale but shiny with some blue hues) i see so often on the web =( but thanx for the compliment (when people see my xb they just say does not look so golden ... how depressing)

i will see how he goes when he will be on his own ... after i settle in my new arrivals next week :D HBRTG, black and green (+some super duper plecos)

i think 24k XB refers to XB that has a full golden head, btw your goldie is still young, it may turn to be a 24k XB after sometime, i think you should seperate your arowanas, put them in their own tanks so that it will lessen the stress and there will be no problem with food. :)

Yeah, the red is on the other side of the divider by himself. BB and XB are on the same side. I was going to move XB to the outside tank with DATs in them, but something came up ... in any case, i think the DAT tank will be reserved for small aro arrivals next week...

BB will be moved when a new 8x3x2 is completed for silver aros then BB can go into the old 7 footer with stingray

Hmmmm, still one tank short for XB

PS: noted on the 24K bit though i always thought that golden heads where ...well ... golden heads (refered to head only and not the color of the fish .. i have seen some quite pale golden heads on the web)

uting
03-18-2009, 12:22 AM
koolness

ctoychik
03-18-2009, 12:33 AM
koolness

^^ thanx. I love the shots from above - but these are difficult to make due to water movement and all that

pressure_cooker
03-18-2009, 2:49 PM
aiya, perhaps it is the lighting but it is not that gold color (a little pale but shiny with some blue hues) i see so often on the web =( but thanx for the compliment (when people see my xb they just say does not look so golden ... how depressing)

i will see how he goes when he will be on his own ... after i settle in my new arrivals next week :D HBRTG, black and green (+some super duper plecos)



Yeah, the red is on the other side of the divider by himself. BB and XB are on the same side. I was going to move XB to the outside tank with DATs in them, but something came up ... in any case, i think the DAT tank will be reserved for small aro arrivals next week...

BB will be moved when a new 8x3x2 is completed for silver aros then BB can go into the old 7 footer with stingray

Hmmmm, still one tank short for XB

PS: noted on the 24K bit though i always thought that golden heads where ...well ... golden heads (refered to head only and not the color of the fish .. i have seen some quite pale golden heads on the web)

i think you should put the red at the outside tank so that it can be tanned, tanning is good especially for the red varieties.

wow good luck on your new community.

ctoychik
03-18-2009, 10:50 PM
i think you should put the red at the outside tank so that it can be tanned, tanning is good especially for the red varieties.

wow good luck on your new community.

it is too bright outside - i thought that reds require dark environment to color up.

community? it has been a disaster for Asian aro comm tank - none get a long - the silver comm tank is coming along nicely though

Hao
03-18-2009, 11:00 PM
wanna post more pictures? =D

ctoychik
03-18-2009, 11:32 PM
wanna post more pictures? =D

Got no nice ones, but here are they anyway ^^

Got a semi decent shot of the bottom dweller with red guy - L600 is with the BB/XB side

Hao
03-18-2009, 11:41 PM
nice endli,BBXB,Red

pressure_cooker
03-19-2009, 3:06 AM
it is too bright outside - i thought that reds require dark environment to color up.

community? it has been a disaster for Asian aro comm tank - none get a long - the silver comm tank is coming along nicely though

my silver was transferred at the outside tank, then it was tanned during the daytime for almost 3-4 months or more, but i noticed that its coloration improved it started to have some thin red colors without the use of pink lights. Even banjar reds have their color improved when they are exposed to the sun at long periods of time. have you noticed some red arowana groomers they tan their reds by either the use of a nan light or sunlight..

ctoychik
03-19-2009, 3:11 AM
my silver was transferred at the outside tank, then it was tanned during the daytime for almost 3-4 months or more, but i noticed that its coloration improved it started to have some thin red colors without the use of pink lights. Even banjar reds have their color improved when they are exposed to the sun at long periods of time. have you noticed some red arowana groomers they tan their reds by either the use of a nan light or sunlight..

Hmmm, sunlight ... my silvers are not exposed to any sunlight ... they are slightly pinkish ... in any case, i can not move the red guy out. gotta move the smallest one, cos the outside tank is the smallest (even then might just leave it for the new arrivals next week) - i really do not like moving fish around =P

RockyGoldy
03-19-2009, 3:50 AM
Hey toychik,

try taking pics of your fishes without the use of camera flash. Set your camera to macro mode and light up your room....I really believe the fish color is not as washed out as shown in the pics.

ctoychik
03-19-2009, 6:47 AM
Hey toychik,

try taking pics of your fishes without the use of camera flash. Set your camera to macro mode and light up your room....I really believe the fish color is not as washed out as shown in the pics.

I must admit that i suck at taking pix of the fish. I tried to take pix of the fish without flash but the pictures are very grainy and blury. Admitedly, the fish room has very little natural light.

My camera is also pretty crappy, i did try to get a DSLR but the shop keeper was not very nice during my last trip to bangkok so i abandoned the idea for now.

I can not turn on the aquarium light for now as long as XB and BB are together. Their behavior changes very drastically when there is change in lighting. I will be trying to take pix without flash when XB is moved out ... <sigh> ... i have not seen my fishies with proper lighting for quite some time already - all i can say is that they are active and eating regularly.

I have noticed red trimming around the scale near the head on the back of red guy when zooming in this photo - EXCITING!! Check it out

I also attached unscaled resolution pix of BB and XB so that can be zoomed in. The blue is blue and shiny; while X-back is just shiny with blue-ish hues

peewee
03-20-2009, 1:20 PM
that's off the hook man!! very nice!

Hao
03-20-2009, 1:27 PM
wow really red,nice XB

Hot Slime
03-20-2009, 2:51 PM
Very inpresive setup and xb's aswell.

ctoychik
03-20-2009, 10:12 PM
Next week this time, i should be getting that "what's in the box" buzzz :D but that is for next week

that's off the hook man!! very nice!

cheers ^^

wow really red,nice XB

:grinno:

Very inpresive setup and xb's aswell.

...i still have to find a way to make the tank look less messy - i mean with all them pipes and all that inside the tank ... but thanks for compliment

echeng
03-20-2009, 10:35 PM
very nice aro community.

Hao
03-20-2009, 11:30 PM
he's going to say my tank isnt nice yet lol b/c theres still sum fighting

ctoychik
03-21-2009, 6:30 AM
very nice aro community.

Cheers ^^

he's going to say my tank isnt nice yet lol b/c theres still sum fighting

that is the short of it :D but i welcome any encouragement :naughty:

ctoychik
04-30-2009, 12:40 AM
Hmm, let's see if the embeddment goes correctly this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSMRGDy9xMY


This would be the red guy who is not quite so red - deep orange. But he is developing spoon head too much i think - king in the making? (not that i want him to become king type)

PS: sorry for the dark video - i will try again next time with more lighting

ctoychik
04-30-2009, 12:41 AM
dear MODs, please move to arowana media section

ctoychik
04-30-2009, 12:44 AM
A still photo of the king in the making ...

ctoychik
04-30-2009, 12:47 AM
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Hao
04-30-2009, 12:55 AM
nice

ctoychik
05-12-2009, 7:35 AM
Update on the blue aro. Still shy but does come to the tank when i jiggle keys in front of his tank. <sigh> very fickle eater - never refuses mealworms but the rest of the food preferences vary from day to day: prawns and frogs.

This is an arowana that does NOT eat crickets (frozen), it did finally eat a live cricket though only two

ctoychik
05-25-2009, 6:46 AM
First photo to show off the pink - unless i am seeing things, the scales are taking on pinkish hue.

The second pix shows off the finnage.

The previous photos already show quite good body shape development

The image are 2m pixels so can zoom in :)

The scales are very large and even

TLkmDN
05-29-2009, 6:36 AM
Update on the blue aro. Still shy but does come to the tank when i jiggle keys in front of his tank. <sigh> very fickle eater - never refuses mealworms but the rest of the food preferences vary from day to day: prawns and frogs.

This is an arowana that does NOT eat crickets (frozen), it did finally eat a live cricket though only two
ure blue based arow is like my fave asian arow ever!!!! very nice colour! u can see the blue tinge! pretty awesome. ure arows are all thick and fat! looks good for eating x_X

ctoychik
05-30-2009, 3:41 AM
ure blue based arow is like my fave asian arow ever!!!! very nice colour! u can see the blue tinge! pretty awesome. ure arows are all thick and fat! looks good for eating x_X

Cheers, bro. BB is blue but the scales are not very uniform somehow :irked: see the pix, but yes, he is definitely blue - very difficult eater as well, but at least he is no longer very shy - heheheh the jiggling of keys usually gets their attention (my silver aros do not respond to movement outside the tank so much) hmmm the body shape is not very impressive on the BB - red one has awesome body

You would not want to eay my fishes, dude :grinno: not with the amount of chemical i use during water changes :naughty:

PS: common it is time for X-back for you - do well in exam and ask your folks for one?

ctoychik
06-23-2009, 6:00 AM
Well, the red aro that was deep orange is entering red now!!!!!!!!! :headbang2:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2 the rims are getting red/pink. Most pronounced near the head and on the top ridge. The other scales are pinking up on the rims now (difficult to capture but the hint is there).

So, let's give me it some more time and hopefuly the development will get deeper and deeper. I do not want to tan him, but there is an option to move him into natural light (but don't want to for now).

Check out the photo zooms of the scales :D:D:D

PS: the X-back who is in contact with natural sun is really coloring up nicely - that one is now GOLD all over:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2