View Full Version : Got a ray IN the bay!
spring007
01-03-2009, 5:53 PM
Hey guys, I just got a Motoro ray about 3 days ago! After my failure last time with two teacups, I was just waiting around till I come across another ray. Then about ten days ago I walk into this LFS and there I see these two awesome lookin motoros still in their bags. I told the owner that I will be back in a week and get them IF they start eating and paid him $100 in advance. 4 days ago I went there, asked the guy who works there to feed it (there was only one left, a female, I think). The ray ate readily. After that I came back home and did an allnighter reading about rays on this forum! I'm not kidding, a complete allnighter. Then the next day I did a 60% water change because my nitrates were about 40ppm, added a lot of aquarium salt and prazi pro (just to make sure that it doesn't have any parasites). I went back to the store and got the ray, did the drip method to release it into the tank. For the last three days she was not moving around a lot when the lights were on. but today I see her swimming around all over the place. The dumbest thing I did was to let the heater without any cover. I have stealth heaters but trust me guys, they burn the ray too!
The only drawback is that she still eats ONLY live black worms. I don't know how to get her start eating pellets. Tried feeding her krill but she doesn't eat that either. Any inputs will be appreciated!
here are the pics
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crowconor
01-03-2009, 5:55 PM
wow nice!! better get some heater guards
ceeej31
01-03-2009, 5:56 PM
looks lie it has a pretty bad heater burn on its back
spring007
01-03-2009, 5:58 PM
looks lie it has a pretty bad heater burn on its back
It was worse that that! I put salt and prazi pro and has gone down a lot...
sodenoshirayuki
01-03-2009, 6:17 PM
Just fatten her up with blackworms first, dont try pellets yet. Not trying to be an ass or anything, but this should've been researched looooong before you even started looking at rays.
spring007
01-03-2009, 6:24 PM
Just fatten her up with blackworms first, dont try pellets yet. Not trying to be an ass or anything, but this should've been researched looooong before you even started looking at rays.
I did look into feeding them blackworms, in fact I know all the different foods that people on this forum feed their rays. I just didn't know how to get my ray start eating pellets, didn't find a post that explains that issue.
angelo21
01-03-2009, 6:28 PM
nice!
sodenoshirayuki
01-03-2009, 6:30 PM
I did look into feeding them blackworms, in fact I know all the different foods that people on this forum feed their rays. I just didn't know how to get my ray start eating pellets, didn't find a post that explains that issue.
I meant just everything in general, and theres like a threat every 3 days asking how to get rays on pellets. If you dunno, then first step is try to get them on earthworms first.
FishDog
01-03-2009, 6:31 PM
I did look into feeding them blackworms, in fact I know all the different foods that people on this forum feed their rays. I just didn't know how to get my ray start eating pellets, didn't find a post that explains that issue.
It is difficult to get some rays onto pellets. Some take them and some don't. They have to be healthy and settled into there home. Once they are eating good on a variety of foods then you can try to get them on pellets. Most people have to starve them for days even a week to get them to eat pellets. Once you are ready to try it, starve them and introduce the pellets mixed into there other food. I have had rays for almost a year and still haven't tried pellets yet, just frozen shrimp, krill, earthworms, and scallops for now. Maybe pellets in the future.
sodenoshirayuki
01-03-2009, 6:46 PM
we should start a sticky on everything you need to know/prepare to keep a ray. That way, research is alot easier.
spring007
01-03-2009, 6:52 PM
we should start a sticky on everything you need to know/prepare to keep a ray. That way, research is alot easier.
Yes! that would be great!
good looking ray. Good luck!
JD7.62
01-03-2009, 7:09 PM
Edit.
Bogwoodbruce
01-03-2009, 7:10 PM
Very nice motoro.
Motoro do tend to be quite easy to get onto alternate feed.
spring007
01-03-2009, 11:17 PM
LOL THANK you guys...very interesting comments...:D and thanks for all the advices!
also I am trying to feed her earthworms but she seems to not know its food...:(
Mobatic
01-03-2009, 11:30 PM
looks familiar.
how is your heater placed??? if veritcal and up off the bottom ray cant burn itself... so how is your positioned
abortedsoul
01-04-2009, 12:36 AM
how is your heater placed??? if veritcal and up off the bottom ray cant burn itself... so how is your positioned
If you have a really energetic ray, it might climb up to the top and rest on it, depending on how it is positioned. I've got a really bouncy leopoldi x pearl that loves to climb over everything. Generally if you put the heater up high, it is alright. I would just be aware of it, if you really don't want to/can't get a heater guard or throw the heaters in the sump. You can cut 3/4" pvc pipe and drill holes in it, if it is a financial issue.
Also, do try blackworms- I've never seen a healthy ray turn them down.
Just out of curiosity, how big is the little gal?
If you have a really energetic ray, it might climb up to the top and rest on it, depending on how it is positioned. I've got a really bouncy leopoldi x pearl that loves to climb over everything. Generally if you put the heater up high, it is alright. I would just be aware of it, if you really don't want to/can't get a heater guard or throw the heaters in the sump. You can cut 3/4" pvc pipe and drill holes in it, if it is a financial issue.
i said it has to be vertical.... i have some crazy active rays.... never had one burn from a stealth... same goes with jager heaters done the same way...
iwiied
01-04-2009, 12:40 AM
I prefer frozen shrimp / prawn over pellet for my rays. it just seem to be much more nutitious than a dried pellets.
spring007
01-04-2009, 12:49 AM
If you have a really energetic ray, it might climb up to the top and rest on it, depending on how it is positioned. I've got a really bouncy leopoldi x pearl that loves to climb over everything. Generally if you put the heater up high, it is alright. I would just be aware of it, if you really don't want to/can't get a heater guard or throw the heaters in the sump. You can cut 3/4" pvc pipe and drill holes in it, if it is a financial issue.
Also, do try blackworms- I've never seen a healthy ray turn them down.
Just out of curiosity, how big is the little gal?
She is about 6"-8" and I have placed the heater near the surface of the water.
i said it has to be vertical.... i have some crazy active rays.... never had one burn from a stealth... same goes with jager heaters done the same way...
I have stealth heaters, she still got burnt...
can she prop her self on a piece of drift wood or somehing to hold her there??? move them to the sump or get/make heater guards
spring007
01-04-2009, 12:56 AM
can she prop her self on a piece of drift wood or somehing to hold her there??? move them to the sump or get/make heater guards
no, the heaters are really far. It would be almost impossible for her to reach them. But, I am looking into heater guards...
spring007
01-04-2009, 12:59 AM
What do you guys think about this heater cover?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3743+18444&pcatid=18444
HarlanAshmore
01-04-2009, 1:05 AM
i'd get the pleco out
Kamisan
01-04-2009, 2:22 AM
My KISS approach on the rays' diet - just feed them with what they like.
Nice motoro and set up.
famous323
01-04-2009, 2:29 AM
nice
abortedsoul
01-04-2009, 3:06 AM
My KISS approach on the rays' diet - just feed them with what they like.
I agree. Until you fatten her up a bit, just offer black worms and maybe finely chopped earthworms mixed in if you are worried about nutrition. Plenty of threads on getting them onto a more balanced diet, but first she has to get her J-Lo booty!
spring007
01-04-2009, 3:11 AM
My KISS approach on the rays' diet - just feed them with what they like.
Nice motoro and set up.
thanks, thats what I think I'm going to do. I am putting chopped carrots and krill into the bowl containing the blackworms. I hope that the ray will get some nutrition indirectly.
nice
thanks :)
I agree. Until you fatten her up a bit, just offer black worms and maybe finely chopped earthworms mixed in if you are worried about nutrition. Plenty of threads on getting them onto a more balanced diet, but first she has to get her J-Lo booty!
she does eat black worms but not chopped earthworms...I tried but it didn't work...
FishDog
01-04-2009, 9:25 AM
Carrots???
ShadowStryder
01-04-2009, 2:13 PM
Carrots???
That was my first thought when I read it? Heard green veggies but not
carrots.
spring007
01-04-2009, 5:58 PM
Carrots???
yeah
That was my first thought when I read it? Heard green veggies but not
carrots.
good source of vit a, also some lettuce and brocolli...
SovietFireExtinguisher
01-04-2009, 8:50 PM
yeah
good source of vit a, also some lettuce and brocolli...
Yeah,........ I'm just gonna say good luck with that.;) I hope that it work out for you and you start a trend.:) Nice girl by the way.
eoertel1082
01-04-2009, 9:46 PM
nice looking ray!
spring007
01-05-2009, 4:40 AM
Yeah,........ I'm just gonna say good luck with that.;) I hope that it work out for you and you start a trend.:) Nice girl by the way.
nice looking ray!
thanks guys! she is eating well now... infact I'm hand feeding her...putting the worms in a test tube and taking it near her mouth so that she can get all the worms. My frontosa and the silver dollars are greedy eaters! they used to eat all the worms. Thats y I started doing this...