Just another BD & Eclipse import

[csx4236]

Some of best yet. Just small sample

[skynoch]

Wow beautiful Mike. Are they for the breeding stock or sale?

[stingray man]

Dang mike. how big are they like 12ish. I can see rolled claspers

[BRYANT MONSTER]

Sweet rays Mike

[csx4236]

The male ECLIPSE is around 14", claspers are huge should be close to mature soon.

[dodgers86]

My God that eclipse is dreamy. What cant I be rich:cry:. Mike you are one fortunate man, Congrats:thumbsup:

[benzjamin13]

Gorgeous!

[ShadowStryder]

That male Eclipse is Hot!

[crystal clear exotics]

LOOKING GOOD MIKE. I SHOULD HAVE MY LEOS IN BY THURSDAY. YOU MUST HAVE AN AWESOME IMPORER DOWN THERE. HOPE MINE COME IN AT LEAST HALF AS NICE. I HEARD THEY PULLING SOME STUNNERS OUT OF THOSE RIVERS. JUST THINK A FEW YEARS OF STRAIT LOVING DOWN THERE. SHOULD BE GOOD PICKINGS.

[michael]

Look great bro

[FishDog]

:WHOA: I love the casual title of "just another BD & Eclipse import". Like there is nothing special about them. Then you open it up and blaam! The hottest eclipse ray on the planet. Nice pick ups.

[le patron]

gorgeous colors man. keep up the good work

[csx4236]

:WHOA: I love the casual title of "just another BD & Eclipse import". Like there is nothing special about them. Then you open it up and blaam! The hottest eclipse ray on the planet. Nice pick ups.


Ha ha you like that also, I said the same thing the eclipse male is the best ray I have ever seen and I will say that again one of best rays around spots are PURE WHITE amazing ray.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

YUMMY!!!!

[cjfrontlovr]

the male in the first picture is incredible!:drool:

[Kolossus]

Wow! :jaw:

[Bogwoodbruce]

Very tastey my friend :D

[genki]

Sweet looking rays.
Another quality Eclipse & BD there Mike.

[RedTailKinG]

nice mike as usuall

[T1KARMANN]

are they wild caught or from Thailand ?

[csx4236]

are they wild caught or from Thailand ?

ALL WILD CAUGHT JUST LIKE LAST IMPORT AND THE NEXT ONE & NEXT ONE & NEXT ONE. I know a few guys over in Europe love to spread lies that the rays are from Asia but there surely not.

[Mrs. Kitty]

WOW! That eclipse is unbelievable!!!:WHOA: You are one lucky man. They are both gorgeous!:)

[Nic]

some stunners mike....

[T1KARMANN]

ALL WILD CAUGHT JUST LIKE LAST IMPORT AND THE NEXT ONE & NEXT ONE & NEXT ONE. I know a few guys over in Europe love to spread lies that the rays are from Asia but there surely not.

easy tiger carm down i have not been on the forums for a few weeks (not as much as normal) and hurd that someone mentioned some of you rays came from thialand

whats the big deal were they come from as long as they are nice who cares someones pond or the wild its no big deal it a ray at the end of the day

[michael]

Are the fisherman catching the BDs and eclipse both from the same river/area? Are the eclipses just luck of the draw BDs that have obviously "eclipse" like markings? just curious.. If the 2 above fish mated would the pups be considered pure bred BDs? Either way they are amazing like usual Mike

[FishDog]

Knowing Mike he has a special fisherman on his payroll that goes out and collects these one of a kind rays for him.

[vamptrev]

Are the fisherman catching the BDs and eclipse both from the same river/area? Are the eclipses just luck of the draw BDs that have obviously "eclipse" like markings? just curious.. If the 2 above fish mated would the pups be considered pure bred BDs? Either way they are amazing like usual Mike

good question, ive been thinking the same... also are these rays coming in w blue eyes mike????

[T1KARMANN]

this bring me back to a point i made a few weeks ago BD cant be that rare if some can go fish them when ever they want at the drop of a hat

if they could why didnt we see thousands of BD before the ban :confused:

what you are saying is now we are only importing BD so the leos we were getting before the ban were low grade sub standard rays

[csx4236]

Are the fisherman catching the BDs and eclipse both from the same river/area? Are the eclipses just luck of the draw BDs that have obviously "eclipse" like markings? just curious.. If the 2 above fish mated would the pups be considered pure bred BDs? Either way they are amazing like usual Mike


Some of the smaller BD we have at 8-10" are starting to eclipse with there spots, So I would say these would have to be BD that develop eclipse spots as they mature, Same as normal leopoldi developing eclipse spots as they mature and grow larger. Yes they would still be considered BD since a eclipse is really a blackdiamond eclipse leo.

[RedTailKinG]

mike just always stunnin

[csx4236]

good question, ive been thinking the same... also are these rays coming in w blue eyes mike????

All these rays have amazing belly spotting, spotting around the eyes, back fins are covered with spots and blue eyes. They are real deal for sure

[csx4236]

this bring me back to a point i made a few weeks ago BD cant be that rare if some can go fish them when ever they want at the drop of a hat

if they could why didnt we see thousands of BD before the ban :confused:

what you are saying is now we are only importing BD so the leos we were getting before the ban were low grade sub standard rays

Here we go again, I know of only one other buyer to get BD of this quality besides myself. And it takes weeks between imports for my exporter to get enough to send me 10 or more pieces in one shipment. Who said you they are fishing them out at the drop of a hat? My exporter has a set quota of rays to sell so this is not really that hard to figure out. Why would he sell regular leo for 1/3 of price as BD when he can collect less fish and get more money for every quota they use for one BD? Why sell 100 regular leo when you can take your time and collect 100 BD over a longer period of time and sell for 3x the profit?. The reason why your seeing more BD now is 1) I am posting pictures of my imports and 2) The fishermen/exporters know what to look for now in the past before the ban there was very small demand for these rays, not like the demand for BD there is now a days. You keep saying this like there are BD all over the place for sale who besides myself and one guy in europe has these rays in there tanks for sale at the moment to make you think this? Please just leave the thread to admire the beauty of these rays and nothing more.

[csx4236]

Knowing Mike he has a special fisherman on his payroll that goes out and collects these one of a kind rays for him.

Lets just say your real damn close.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

:popcorn:

[all blacks]

simply breathtaking! :headbang2

[torres]

Really sweet one Mike :headbang2 :headbang2:headbang2

[T1KARMANN]

i understand what you are saying the guys are pulling them out of the river to max profits

then surely most of them would go to japan were the profits are much higher

does this mean we wont see any normal leos on this quota and a normal spot leo will now be the rare ray like BD were before the ban

before the ban you were lucky to see 10 x BD per year you have got 40 in the space of 1 month and thats just to you not taking in to account ones were are not seeing in asia

[csx4236]

i understand what you are saying the guys are pulling them out of the river to max profits

then surely most of them would go to japan were the profits are much higher

does this mean we wont see any normal leos on this quota and a normal spot leo will now be the rare ray like BD were before the ban

before the ban you were lucky to see 10 x BD per year you have got 40 in the space of 1 month and thats just to you not taking in to account ones were are not seeing in asia

Why would most go to Japan when exporter sets a certain price and the person who is willing to pay that SET price happens to be in the USA which is half the flight time, then sending the rays to Asia and alot less risk for the exporter with DOA etc? Max profits would be on the buyers side not the exporter since the buyer can make whatever profit he feels is good for these rays. All the exporter does is set a price and sell to the best paying customer. Also I have not even obtained 40 BD, wish I did but simple not true. Between me and the other guy in Europe who got some it's less then 40 combined add in another 20 sold to one customer in japan maybe 60 total and I am not even 100% sure anybody in Asia got these. Also there is only 1 exporter selling BD who is smart enough to maximize profits at the moment just about all the rest who I am in contact with cannot get these quality rays and are selling regular P13 amd P12.

[ray777]

Post more Pics!! :)

[T1KARMANN]

its no big deal to me who buys what at what price

its great that so many nice rays are coming out

it makes me wonder how many normal spot leos are caught then thrown back with the chance of a hook in side them just because they dont meet the standards needed now

[StiffMeister]

Mike, how do you know there is only one person in europe who has/sells them?

[Tom500]

Wow those are stunning, i notice they have covers over their sting, can you keep these on, because that would solve a lot of problems

[lewis23]

Them are incredible rays Mike. U.S.A is on the map to STAY with them heavy weights!!!

[rudy]

Very nice as usual Mike. Your collection is incredible.

[T1KARMANN]

Wow those are stunning, i notice they have covers over their sting, can you keep these on, because that would solve a lot of problems

what problems would it solve :confused:

it causes more problems

its best to get them off as soon as passable

[genki]

WC Leos & Henleis came into S'pore recently with almost zero casualties. Some do have decent & nice spottings on them but I have yet to see any WC BDs or Eclipses like the ones posted by Mike.
The importing farm did mention that these rays were quarantined by the exporter for at least 3 months back & maybe that's the reason for the low DOAs. Also, regardless of their sizes, only 1 pc is packed into a very large bag in a huge styrofoam box unlike the methods used in the past.

[csx4236]

Mike, how do you know there is only one person in europe who has/sells them?


Cause I know all

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Cause I know all

:ROFL:

[turkeyboy85]

Cause I know all


since you know all...... thoughts?

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204972