PDA

View Full Version : ASIAN AROWANA CLASSES, PART1 (X-BACK)



kriztu
03-24-2006, 6:05 AM
ARTICLE COURTESY OF UNOAQUATIC:

CROSS BACK GOLDEN (X-BACK)

there are several names for it, some calls it Cross Back Golden, Pahang Gold, Malayan Bonytongue, Bukit Merah Blue, Taiping Golden and the Malaysian Gold. These are basically referring to the same type of fish - the Golden Arowana. It will have golden color completely crossing its back when the fish matures. The main reason for so many terminologies is because Cross Back Golden Arowanas can be found in various parts of Malaysia such as the states of Perak, Trengganu, Bukit Merah Lake and Johor.
Due to its relatively low supply and great demand in the market, it is currently one of the most expensive color specimen for the Asian Arowana. The main reason for its high price is due to its scarcity as well as lesser number of gametes on each spawn. Currently, only Malaysia and Singapore farms are breeding the Malaysian Golden Arowanas.
Cross-Back Goldens are further classified into Blue-Based, Purple-Based, Gold-Based, Green-based and the Silver-based types, implying the core color of the scales. The terms Blue-Based and Purple-Based are being used interchangeably by some breeders since these Cross Backs exhibit Purple Core when viewed at an angle but appears totally blue at another. Gold-Based is one of the Cross Back with a flourish of golden color at it’s scales right into the core of the scales instead of one that is blue or purplish in colors. The Golden-Based variety seems to have color crossing its back earlier than the rest. This is one type of arowanas that is most stunning to look at since a mature fish is able to achieve the much dreamed about 24K gold color which other golden varieties are incapable of! Just imagine a 2-footer arowana, fully wrapped with golden scales swimming effortlessly, making occasional turns with ease and confidence to show that it is indeed the King of Aquarium. Of course, there are also the exotic Green-Based and Silver-Based types which have green and silvery cores on its scales respectively.
It is also becoming more difficult to differentiate the sub-varieties since it is quite common to find a fish that has the qualities of two or more sub-varieties. This is due to the inter-breeding between these different varieties by the farmers and thus most Cross-Backs are not as pure as it used to be. But on the other hand, it did produce a fish with enhanced qualities from each variety. The breeding of other varieties other varieties like the Platinum White Golden Arowana and the Royal Golden Blue Arowana has also evolved over recent years. Both of these command premium price tags and are very much sought in Japan due to their scarcity. Malaysian Farms constitute most exports of these high quality fish in the world as this fish originates there.

kriztu
03-24-2006, 7:00 AM
to the moderators, please sticky including parts 2&3. for information of arowana keeping members

zennzzo
03-24-2006, 8:46 AM
kriztu, is that a greeny in your gallery?

kriztu
03-24-2006, 6:16 PM
yep, thats the green alright. i made these posts coz i remember an MFK member asking for the difference in the varieties, so here they are even if theyre quite long. thats the quickest pic i could pull out and attach, hehehehe

ckk125
03-26-2006, 4:47 AM
there are several names for it, some calls it Cross Back Golden, Pahang Gold, Malayan Bonytongue, Bukit Merah Blue, Taiping Golden and the Malaysian Gold. These are basically referring to the same type of fish - the Golden Arowana.

you are wrong..they are all ASIAN arowana.

mcblack
03-27-2006, 12:37 AM
great info, gotta love the xback golden, the gold base must be look like gold to be consider one, definetly work owning

sam_cj
03-27-2006, 1:11 AM
very informative. thanks kriztu!

s2000
03-28-2006, 10:06 PM
thanks for the info

ewurm
03-28-2006, 10:18 PM
Great info thanks

kriztu
03-29-2006, 6:24 AM
you are wrong..they are all ASIAN arowana.

duh. read it again. it means the golden arowana is known by different names in different places. yes, theyre all asian aros, also the green, the rtg and the super reds :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:

xrtg
03-29-2006, 11:24 PM
duh. read it again. it means the golden arowana is known by different names in different places. yes, theyre all asian aros, also the green, the rtg and the super reds :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:


yep. you're rite. golden are generaly known as crossbacks. reds are usually known as super red and greenies are simply greens.

special names like bukit merah blue or pahang gold are usuall used for marketing sales. but they somehow let you know the characteristic of your aros. for example....blue based crossbacks or gold based crossbacks.

kriztu
03-30-2006, 4:47 AM
yep. you're rite. golden are generaly known as crossbacks. reds are usually known as super red and greenies are simply greens.

special names like bukit merah blue or pahang gold are usuall used for marketing sales. but they somehow let you know the characteristic of your aros. for example....blue based crossbacks or gold based crossbacks.

yep, even different breeders from many farms in singapore name many varieties from the strains they produce, like VFSR's etc

ckk125
03-30-2006, 7:00 AM
golden aint generally known as crossbacks..over here at least...well, there is no such thing as a golden arowana..it is an asian arowana..some may take that golden and green aros are 2 seperate species..

xrtg
03-30-2006, 7:05 PM
golden aint generally known as crossbacks..over here at least...well, there is no such thing as a golden arowana..it is an asian arowana..some may take that golden and green aros are 2 seperate species..

that would create confusion. green and golden arowanas are two very diffrent breeds. yes they are called aisan arowanas but they are diffrent.


note that golden sometimes also refer to red tail golden (RTG). and the term crossback does not apply to RTGs. so generally there are the

1. crossback (golden variety)
2. super red (red variety)
3. rtg (golden variety)
4. green ( i don't know which variety it is classified under)

kriztu
03-30-2006, 10:50 PM
golden aint generally known as crossbacks..over here at least...well, there is no such thing as a golden arowana..it is an asian arowana..some may take that golden and green aros are 2 seperate species..

look dude, they aint separate species! separate varieties. the golden x-back, the rtg, the reds and the green have the same scientific name, Scleropages Formosus, ok!? and for your info, golds are known as crossbacks to differentiate them from red-tail golds whos gold rims dont reach the sixth level of scales. and what do you mean there isnt a golden arowana? :ROFL: dude, thats why you dont classify your arowanas in malaysia coz you have the golden variety being the only one originating in malaysia! the reds and the rtg are from indonesia! if you have other colors in you lfs, its coz theyre bred and imported from arowana farms mainly in singapore. but dont say there aint any golden arowanas coz there are :woot: so again, there are mainly four classes, x-backs, super reds, rtg and green

dimfer
03-30-2006, 11:02 PM
good info..thanks for posting

ultimatejay
03-31-2006, 12:40 AM
look dude, they aint separate species! separate varieties. the golden x-back, the rtg, the reds and the green have the same scientific name, Scleropages Formosus, ok!? and for your info, golds are known as crossbacks to differentiate them from red-tail golds whos gold rims dont reach the sixth level of scales. and what do you mean there isnt a golden arowana? :ROFL: dude, thats why you dont classify your arowanas in malaysia coz you have the golden variety being the only one originating in malaysia! the reds and the rtg are from indonesia! if you have other colors in you lfs, its coz theyre bred and imported from arowana farms mainly in singapore. but dont say there aint any golden arowanas coz there are :woot: so again, there are mainly four classes, x-backs, super reds, rtg and green

You're right. Thanks for posting- good info. How much does a x-back cost in U.S. dollars where you are from?

BIGGIE525
03-31-2006, 1:23 PM
golden aint generally known as crossbacks..over here at least...well, there is no such thing as a golden arowana..it is an asian arowana..some may take that golden and green aros are 2 seperate species..

here's a general breakdown for you, human beings-there are white, black, asian, indian.. and so on, but when it comes down to it we're all the same(human). were classified differently cuz of how we look. :thumbsup:

xrtg
03-31-2006, 7:45 PM
here's a general breakdown for you, human beings-there are white, black, asian, indian.. and so on, but when it comes down to it we're all the same(human). were classified differently cuz of how we look. :thumbsup:

bingo. :grinyes:

even when you break them down to how they look, they still can classify them to their ethenic groups. just like aros. :grinyes:

ckk125
03-31-2006, 9:08 PM
if that is the case..u guys missed out one..yellow arowana..and chili reds..all im saying that it is important for one not to mistaken these different varieties as seperate species..like what this guy said..

"that would create confusion. green and golden arowanas are two very diffrent breeds. yes they are called aisan arowanas but they are diffrent."

let me ask you, how different are they in the wild?apart from the colour? so you are trying to say that guppies have millions of names because they have a wide range of colouration?

it may be right that gold are often related to x-back.but over here...gold = usually rtg..it depends on individuals..all im trying to point out here is whether it is a gold, rtg ,super red, chili red and god knows what is next...are not different species and they do not differ too much except for the colour

xrtg
03-31-2006, 9:51 PM
if that is the case..u guys missed out one..yellow arowana..and chili reds..all im saying that it is important for one not to mistaken these different varieties as seperate species..like what this guy said..

"that would create confusion. green and golden arowanas are two very diffrent breeds. yes they are called aisan arowanas but they are diffrent."

let me ask you, how different are they in the wild?apart from the colour? so you are trying to say that guppies have millions of names because they have a wide range of colouration?

it may be right that gold are often related to x-back.but over here...gold = usually rtg..it depends on individuals..all im trying to point out here is whether it is a gold, rtg ,super red, chili red and god knows what is next...are not different species and they do not differ too much except for the colour

yes they are the same species....asian arowanas. and yellow and chili are usually classified as super red too.

ckk125
03-31-2006, 11:25 PM
yellow= gold+green as far as i know..

sam_cj
04-02-2006, 9:21 AM
yellow= gold+green as far as i know..

i think so too. ;)

kriztu
04-02-2006, 9:05 PM
yellow arowana is not considered a class coz these are either 1.5 reds or pineapple reds (gold+green, red+green) which are products of bad breeding. if you read the write-up on super reds, super red is a general term used for both the chilli-red and the blood-red :drool: . the yellow-tail meanwhile is a form of green, mainly from thailand. the written classes are derived from the 4 naturally occuring arowana classes in the wild not in your petshops, x-back golden(malaysia), super reds-both chilli and blood(indonesia), red-tail golden(indonesia) and the green or yellow-tail (widely distributed in south-east asia). and again, they are the same species, but different varieties or breeds if you like(as in dogs)! here i'll spell it in capital letters, SCLEROPAGES FORMOSUS just as all dogs in our houses are CANIS FAMILIARIS! you can check that out in any fish book or site or scientist you can find! i hope i explained it clearly this time, good God! :swear: NOBODY SAID THEY'RE DIFFERENT SPECIES !!!!!!!!!!!

xrtg
04-02-2006, 10:29 PM
don't get so worked up. its only friendly discussion. and i agree with you. :)

kriztu
04-03-2006, 8:07 AM
hehehe:) just making a point

ckk125
04-04-2006, 7:45 AM
i am just clearing things up..the way u guys said is as if those aros are different species. cant u read my post properly? a member clearly said this

" that would create confusion. green and golden arowanas are two very diffrent breeds. yes they are called aisan arowanas but they are diffrent."

u see...some may consider them as very different..but how different can they?just the colouration. and no, yellow tailed aro is NOT bad products of breeding. they are bred for people who couldnt afford a gold, red and so on aros. u forgot something...green aro...occurs in the wild as well.

no hard feelings man. just a discussion.

kriztu
04-05-2006, 12:01 AM
actually the green aro is in my post with the rtg Arowana Classes Part 3. its ok, just a discussion

xxblwn408
04-10-2006, 2:26 AM
Great info. I never knew they were all the same type of Aro.

deangelo
04-13-2006, 6:10 PM
:clap good job on the x back

kriztu
05-12-2006, 9:06 PM
tanx everyone. i hope others would add more. good info for other hobbyists

jl1
09-08-2006, 10:40 AM
very informative...

islander671
11-23-2006, 8:25 PM
Kritzu or any other arowana expert,
Can you explain what the differences in filial generation (F-3, F-2..etc) is? Does this affect value or quailty of the arowana? Mine is a Xian Leng F-2 Green. What is the meaning of this mysterious "F" number.

kriztu
11-24-2006, 4:03 AM
f simply stands for filial, as in a generation of a family. like youre a 3rd generation, your father is second generation and your grandpa is 1st generation. depending on where you start counting. your fish is f-2, it simply means it descended from the first generation that the farm started on for breeding this certain type of aro. this makes your fish a second generation of the type of arowana breed from your farm. most certificates declare what generation your fish is from the first captive bred individuals in their farms who were in turn, descended from the wild. like mine is certified to be F3, 3rd generation fish descended from the first batch of captive bred aros in the farm where i got it. dont worry, it does not matter with regards to the price and value of your fish. its just mandatory by law that farms declare their fishes to be from captive bred individuals, not from wild ones

islander671
11-24-2006, 4:09 AM
f simply stands for filial, as in a generation of a family. like youre a 3rd generation, your father is second generation and your grandpa is 1st generation. depending on where you start counting. your fish is f-2, it simply means it descended from the first generation that the farm started on for breeding this certain type of aro. this makes your fish a second generation of the type of arowana breed from your farm. most certificates declare what generation your fish is from the first captive bred individuals in their farms who were in turn, descended from the wild. like mine is certified to be F3, 3rd generation fish descended from the first batch of captive bred aros in the farm where i got it. dont worry, it does not matter with regards to the price and value of your fish. its just mandatory by law that farms declare their fishes to be from captive bred individuals, not from wild ones

Thanks man! Makes sense now. the worker at the lfs tried explaining it to me, but my japanese isnt that strong yet.

kriztu
11-24-2006, 4:14 AM
no problem. so what kind of aro did you get from xianleng? and why in japan?

Chaos32
11-24-2006, 5:52 AM
no problem. so what kind of aro did you get from xianleng? and why in japan?

Dude, it's been a while :). Think he mention buying a green & probably cause he lives in Japan.

islander671
11-24-2006, 5:54 AM
no problem. so what kind of aro did you get from xianleng? and why in japan?
I got me a Green. Kind of like a starter asian aro for me. He's mean as hell, but im kinda attached to him now. Im here in japan courtesy of the US military.

kriztu
11-25-2006, 11:27 PM
hi there bro Chaos! yeah its been a while, got really busy with my studies and a job. ive been missing it here and im trying to find breaks to sneak in from time to time to check on you guys:grinno:

Chaos32
11-26-2006, 1:19 AM
hi there bro Chaos! yeah its been a while, got really busy with my studies and a job. ive been missing it here and im trying to find breaks to sneak in from time to time to check on you guys:grinno:

Was wondering where u were. Glad to see ya active again. Cheers. :)

kriztu
11-28-2006, 12:30 AM
yeah, but i dont think i'll be as active as before though. really gotta focus on my studies to get it over with, lol. but will be sure to check now and then

HKN
01-29-2007, 4:10 PM
NICE READ....

AROWANABE
02-08-2007, 2:48 PM
THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION

colt45
02-19-2007, 5:23 AM
Thanx for the info, I love the colored ones!

farish
02-19-2007, 5:34 AM
a good place tofind out more about arowanas especially asians

www.arofanatics.com

novo
03-14-2007, 9:18 AM
this is another info about red aros

There are basically four different varieties of Red Arowanas namely Blood Red, Chili Red, Orange Red and the
Golden Red. In recent years, Chili Red, Blood Red, Orange Red and Golden Red are grouped together and
termed Super Red or `First Grade Red'. It has made the termed `Super Red' inferior since Orange Red and
Golden Red do not bear the qualities of the former two and they have only comparatively colors appear either
in orange or golden orange. The usage of terms has indeed changed over the years and the term Super Red is
now becoming more commonly used among breeders when naming their red arowanas.
The Chili Red and Blood Red are both originated from two famous waters in Western Kalimantan, Indonesia
called the River Kapuas and Lake Sentarum. Lake Sentarum, consisting of many smaller lakes interlinked
between each other, is at one end of River Kapuas. These waters are covered by the thick Peat Forest which
provides a very primitive environment for these Jurassic fishes, but with its naturally occurring minerals,
blackwater and abundance of food source produce very positive effects on the colors of this particular variety of
Asian Arowana. Also the vast areas of red arowanas habitat may be the reason behind the variations within the
red arowana variety. Some seem to have broader body, steeper spoonheads, greater red intensity and heavier
base colors than others, just for example. And, it is because of such differences in appearance, the early
dealers in Indonesia created another two general terms for two main groups of red-turning arowanas found in
that region. They are Chili Red and Blood Red. The names Chili and Blood were given because of their
difference in red intensity, Chili Red has a chili color while Blood Red has a red color that looks like blood color.
Apart from colors, Chili Red and Blood Red are also different in terms of shape. While Chili Red is broader in
shape, Blood Red is longer and slimmer. This broadness can be seen between the back and the bottom of the
body of a Chili Red that is both thick and wide. This wideness extends all the way backward to tail of the fish
rather than one that the usual tapering downwards to the tail, which belongs to that of a Blood Red. This
difference in shape together with its thick frame scales, spoonhead and intensified red color scales has made
the Chili Red look more massive, forceful, well-balanced and prosperous-looking.

The Chili Red also has large red-colored eyes and a diamond-shaped tail while
the Blood Red has whiter and smaller eyes and a big wide-opened fan-shaped
tail. Chili Reds has eyes so big that sometimes the edges of the eyes actually
“touch” the top of the head and the lower jaws. The tail of Chili Red is obvious
diamond-shaped which can be large and outward-extending as well. The Blood
Red on the other hand, has much smaller eyes that look somewhat “normal”
and a rounder, widely spread tail that is simply beautiful. These characteristics
are obvious even when the fish is young, so it is possible to spot a Chili Red or
Blood Red when young. Apart from the above, a personal opinion from us is
that the scales of Chili Reds have more obvious green cores and have heavier
metallic shines while Blood Red have shines that is shinier and tends to
resemble that of a Cross-back Golden when young. Also, the shape of a young Blood Red seems rounder as
compared to Chili Reds.
Despite the differences observed above, both Chili and Blood Reds are still the most stunning looking red
arowanas customers can get and it is most important for any hobbyists to get a red arowana that turns red,
Chili or Blood Red. These days genuine Blood Red or Chili Red are rare to find. And generally a Super Red type
with some Chili Red bloodline has sharper looking face and a pointed head/mouth region and naturally with
deep red color finnages. To get a good red, it is more advisable to approach a reputable farm that sells genuine
red arowanas.
The color developments of both fishes are also differ with Chili Red being a late developer while Blood Red are
early developer. To put it in simple terms, Chili Reds will normally achieve its full bloom red color 1-2 years
later than Blood Reds and this red color is often a breath-taking one, especially with its relatively thinner red
framed scales. This is as far as red intensity is concern. However, the stages of color developments of the body
for both fish are similar. Orange color is often the transitional stage to the eventual red color which some red
arowanas will experience. Of course, there are also red arowanas that, in their whole 8 years remained palelooking
and only to turn suddenly to full red color in a short space of one month, much to the shock of the
owners. The judgments on red arowanas can be difficult at times and it can take plenty of efforts and patience
to realize the true potential of a young red arowanas. These efforts are definitely worthwhile.

novo
03-14-2007, 10:03 PM
this is a info about silver aro.

The Silver Arowana is of the genus “Osteoglossum bicirrhosum,” were recognized as a new fish species in 1829 in France, by zoologist Georges Cuvier. They are classified as Bony-Tongued Fish which are fish that go back to somewhat pre-historic times. In fact, in Greek, Osteoglossum is bone-tongued and bicirrhosum is "two barbels.”

Silver Arowana are found naturally in white and black water floodplains of South America in the freshwaters of the Amazon River Basin and River, maybe in the Rupununi and Oyapock Rivers, and in some still waters of Guyana as well. There is indication that they don’t go through rapids, as they haven’t promulgated further upstream. Most of the Silver Arowana are found in the swamp and flooded areas in the shallower water.

Silver Arowana are primitive, prehistoric fish. They actually have teeth on their tongue that comprise the bite they have for their food. Other relatives of Arowana in general include the Butterfly fish and Elephant fish.

Silver Arowana are among the cheapest Arowana available, and the least restricted to import/export. They come small, but look out, they grow rapidly. It is wise to get them at 4-8 inches/ 10-20cm when they are hardier and easier to handle. This will give you a better chance of success keeping them.

The natural environment of the Silver Arowana is from about 75 to 82 degrees F (24-28 C) warm in the water. In the wild, Silver Arowana may reach upwards of 4 feet /120 cm in length, and a little over ten pounds in weight.

They require good water condition to flourish. You must keep Ammonia and Nitrites close to zero. Silver Arowana create a lot of waste, so the filtration system needs to be strong and efficient. Changing at least 25% of the water per week is advisable. Some even recommend as much as 50-75%. The pH of the water (soft and acidic) is best kept between 6.0 and 6.9. Water hardness level for an ideal environment is about 1-8dH.

Their body are covered in very big, strong, and bony scales, and at the lower jaw, 2 barbels. Silver Arowana have a large, bony tongue. The dorsal and anal fins are nearly connected to the caudal fin. Adult Silver Arowana is silvery usually whereas the juveniles often have a yellow-orange bar on the side. They have longer fins than the other Arowana species from Australia, Asia, and Africa.

The growth rate in the Silver Arowana is about two inches (5cm) a month during their first year.

Silver Arowana requires a larger aquarium tank that needs to be well covered to prevent the fish from jumping out if the aquarium to their deaths. The size required depends on the size of your Arowana but should as a rule be at least twice and preferable more than 3 times the length of the fish. Decorated the aquarium so that a lot of open space is created to allow your Silver Arowana fish space where they can swim freely. Silver Arowana like their space to move about in. You will however probably want to give them a couple of places where they can hide. While some tank mates may be good for dinner, you might try some other large fish that are hardy and slightly aggressive fish such as Catfish to keep with your Arowana.

Silver Arowana fish demands a varied diet. They are usually fed guppies in the stores where they are sold and whatever it takes upon acclimation to get them to eat other things is wise and necessary to get them to do so. Getting them to eat non-live food can be a good thing too, as it expands your options for variety. They will usually eat things such as frozen raw shrimp, squid, scallops, and fish fillets. They will also accept a number of live foods such as, smaller fish, plankton, crickets, bloodworms, other insects, and mosquito larvae. If trained, they will eat nearly anything they can get their hands on. Goldfish might be suggested as a snack, however they should not make up a too large part of your Silver Arowana’s diet. Another aspect, if you dare, is to attempt to get them to fetch food from your hand which can result in some painful bites until the Arowana learns it.

One condition that is often seen in Silver Arowana is called “Drop Eye”, where an eye appears to look downward. It seems this may be the result of over breeding at the breeders though it might also come from fatty tissues behind the eye. Less fat in their diet may help to minimizing or preventing this.

Make sure the top of your tank is well secured. Silver Arowana are Jumpers, and may wind up dead on the floor otherwise.

They can be shy, and easily spooked. For example, when turning on the lights, it is wise to turn on the room lights first. Then after a few minutes, turn on the tank lights. Otherwise, your Silver Arowana might get spooked and injure itself. It is good if you can get some sunlight to them in the day as well, but not constant or you might wind up with an algae problem.

It is suggested for filtration to use adequate Mechanical, Chemical, and Biological filtration to cover the amount of water in the tank. Multiple units might not hurt considering the volume of water you need for your Silver Arowana, and it does provide backup in case one system fails.

On a closing note, you should also remember, Silver Arowana’s are not for the poor, or the inexperienced aquarist. However, they are very interesting fish to watch grow, and live. They will undoubtedly give you many hours of enjoyable scenery, and experiences. If you choose to get a Silver Arowana, it is wise to do a lot of research to become even more experienced with these great living examples of Amazon Basin.

CORVETTE
04-25-2007, 12:16 AM
They are all beautifull, all i could afford was a green and its ausome but someday i would love a red or a cross back gold

kriztu
04-27-2007, 8:13 AM
thanks Novo, the articles on red i also posted as another part of this thread but was not stickied. tanx for the additions bro. go MFK!

khorxianjin
06-12-2007, 10:25 AM
Hey kritzu i have a yellow-tailed aro and it really looks like a green aro. so how do actually differ them ?

kriztu
06-13-2007, 8:39 AM
i think i had an article on this sight somewhere in this site titled asian arowana classes parts 3 and 4 that deals with that.....

rahimi
06-14-2007, 9:27 PM
Thanks for the info bro...

Bstinga
08-06-2007, 1:03 AM
Hi All,
This sort of thing is always an interesting and often contentious discussion. You already showed some of this but worth a mention as the best summary I’ve come across http://unoaquatic.com/worldofasianarowana.htm

The following is summarised from http://www.arofanatics.com/ (http://www.arofanatics.com/) as they have advanced on a similar discussion, there are so many commercial names for Asian Aros’ and there seem to be new ones every few months, new farms opening all the time and they come up with new names. I know of a cple of new ones in Indo this last few months. I hope this "borrowing" of info is ok guys - thread is http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295181&page=5 (http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295181&page=5) and credit most research by tagore :clap .

1. Asian Arowana (Scleropages Formosus)

a. Red Arowana
§ Metallic Red
§ Banjar Red
§ Emperor Red
§ Shelook Red
§ Qian Hu Red
§ C V Maju Red
§ DFI (Dragon Fish Industries) Red
§ Purple Red Arowana
§ Blood Red
§ Chilli Red
§ Violet Fusion Super Red
§ Super Dinamic Red F-2
§ Metal Red (Green Head)
§ Super green based blood red
§ Armoured Red (as in wearing chest of armour/shoulder pads)
§ Armoured Violet Fusion
§ Gan Aquarium Red +
§ N1 Red (Niwan)
§ Panda Red
§ Elkindo Red
§ VIP Red
§ Isaku Red
§ Spoon Head Violet Fusion (SHVF)
§ Orange Red
§ QH Chilli Red
§ Grade 1 Super Red

b. Gold Arowana
§ Panda Gold Supreme
§ Electric Blue Xback
§ Panda Gold
§ 1st Class Panda Xback (Xback meaning the shine crosses over back on 6th level - which is the sixth row of scales)
§ Malaysian Gold Arowana
§ Bukit Merah Blue Xback
§ Sianlon Golden Head
§ Indonesian XB
§ DFI Shark Mouth
§ Menjuku Gold
§ Armoured Gold
§ OTF Gold
§ Golden Mahato aro
§ Dream Fish Merlion Gold
§ Majuku Gold
§ 24K (Arodynasty)
§ Super Grade Electric Blue
§ SABF Xback

c. Red-Tail Arowana (RTG)
§ High Back Red Tail Golden (hybrid)
§ Blue Based RTG
§ Rainbow RTGd. Yellow-Tail Arowana


e. Green Arowana
§ Nami Green
§ Kedah Batik Green

f. Hybrid Asian Arowana
§ Tong Yen (Red x Crossback)
§ Red Splendor (Red x Crossback)
§ Grade 1.5 red (Red x Green)
§ Grade 2 red (Red x Yellow)

2. Australian Arowana (Scleropages jardini)

Silver Barramundi, Northern Barramundi
Note: There is debate to whether S. jardini and S. leicharati should be considered separate species or just different morphs of the same species.


a. Australian Pearl Arowana
b. Australian Spotted Arowana
c. Australian Red Arowana?
3. Silver Arowana (Osteoglossum Bicirrhosum)


4. Black Arowana (Osteoglossum Ferrerai)

5. Africa Arowana (Heterotis Niloticus)


There are many more, not counting mutants (two heads, Siamese, albino, camel/king, switch blade, platinum, those with fused caudal and anal fins [i.e. shelook unique strain] etc.) as my personal opinion is that many of these are a result of a limited gene pool in those particular breeding ponds (please don’t flame me for that just a point of view).

sweet.

kriztu
08-19-2007, 10:02 PM
yep, most noted asian arowana farms have their own breeding brand names

hatorihanzoe
10-08-2007, 8:06 AM
banjar red is 1.5 or 2.0 grade, and 1.5 and 2.0 don't have much difference and hard to tell them apart also called yellow tail

sauroid
10-12-2007, 3:06 AM
maybe people with better knowledge in this thread would be able to help me with my query.
do super reds occur naturally in the wild (specifically, the kapuas river in kalimantan, indonesia)? and since Scleropages formosus had been separated into several new species, what species of Scleropages is the super red? TIA.
(i'd also want to know what species the green asian aro is)

kriztu
10-16-2007, 7:12 PM
well according to the latest classification i came across with, the super reds (blood&chilli) are now classed as Scleropages legendrei. and yes, they do occur in the wild, not at all a developed captive breed. the green aro is still classified as S. formosus, better read on the other stickied thread in this section dealing with all the classes

T1KARMANN
11-16-2007, 1:12 PM
their is no were near enought pics in the thread :D

AW7020
11-21-2007, 8:33 PM
Any one care to put some pic of the different arowanas as posted by Bstinga quote as below. Thanks



Hi All,
This sort of thing is always an interesting and often contentious discussion. You already showed some of this but worth a mention as the best summary I’ve come across http://unoaquatic.com/worldofasianarowana.htm

The following is summarised from http://www.arofanatics.com/ (http://www.arofanatics.com/) as they have advanced on a similar discussion, there are so many commercial names for Asian Aros’ and there seem to be new ones every few months, new farms opening all the time and they come up with new names. I know of a cple of new ones in Indo this last few months. I hope this "borrowing" of info is ok guys - thread is http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295181&page=5 (http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295181&page=5) and credit most research by tagore :clap .

1. Asian Arowana (Scleropages Formosus)

a. Red Arowana
§ Metallic Red
§ Banjar Red
§ Emperor Red
§ Shelook Red
§ Qian Hu Red
§ C V Maju Red
§ DFI (Dragon Fish Industries) Red
§ Purple Red Arowana
§ Blood Red
§ Chilli Red
§ Violet Fusion Super Red
§ Super Dinamic Red F-2
§ Metal Red (Green Head)
§ Super green based blood red
§ Armoured Red (as in wearing chest of armour/shoulder pads)
§ Armoured Violet Fusion
§ Gan Aquarium Red +
§ N1 Red (Niwan)
§ Panda Red
§ Elkindo Red
§ VIP Red
§ Isaku Red
§ Spoon Head Violet Fusion (SHVF)
§ Orange Red
§ QH Chilli Red
§ Grade 1 Super Redb. Gold Arowana
§ Panda Gold Supreme
§ Electric Blue Xback
§ Panda Gold
§ 1st Class Panda Xback (Xback meaning the shine crosses over back on 6th level - which is the sixth row of scales)
§ Malaysian Gold Arowana
§ Bukit Merah Blue Xback
§ Sianlon Golden Head
§ Indonesian XB
§ DFI Shark Mouth
§ Menjuku Gold
§ Armoured Gold
§ OTF Gold
§ Golden Mahato aro
§ Dream Fish Merlion Gold
§ Majuku Gold
§ 24K (Arodynasty)
§ Super Grade Electric Blue
§ SABF Xbackc. Red-Tail Arowana (RTG)
§ High Back Red Tail Golden (hybrid)
§ Blue Based RTG
§ Rainbow RTGd. Yellow-Tail Arowana


e. Green Arowana
§ Nami Green
§ Kedah Batik Greenf. Hybrid Asian Arowana
§ Tong Yen (Red x Crossback)
§ Red Splendor (Red x Crossback)
§ Grade 1.5 red (Red x Green)
§ Grade 2 red (Red x Yellow)

2. Australian Arowana (Scleropages jardini)

Silver Barramundi, Northern Barramundi
Note: There is debate to whether S. jardini and S. leicharati should be considered separate species or just different morphs of the same species.


a. Australian Pearl Arowana
b. Australian Spotted Arowana
c. Australian Red Arowana?
3. Silver Arowana (Osteoglossum Bicirrhosum)


4. Black Arowana (Osteoglossum Ferrerai)

5. Africa Arowana (Heterotis Niloticus)


There are many more, not counting mutants (two heads, Siamese, albino, camel/king, switch blade, platinum, those with fused caudal and anal fins [i.e. shelook unique strain] etc.) as my personal opinion is that many of these are a result of a limited gene pool in those particular breeding ponds (please don’t flame me for that just a point of view).

sweet.
Last edited by Bstinga : 08-06-2007 at 02:12 PM.

TMDragon
02-02-2008, 1:30 AM
For everyone who hasn't had the priviledge of seeing a Golden Arowana Up close I think these videos represent them pretty well so take a look! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWKs5x_iS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7vKPitqg1A

danfong88
02-13-2008, 9:47 PM
Great answer! I never knew, that green, golden, and RTG are all asian arowana. The way pet shop sell them, we think the Xback Golden is best breed. I am still waiting for the prices to come down. The prices for Xback Golden is just too much for normal folks like me.

aikio
02-26-2008, 11:22 PM
what type this arowana???

bob351
03-24-2008, 5:40 PM
crossback gold

dbrzz
05-18-2008, 10:16 PM
Nice fish

Hot Slime
05-18-2008, 11:43 PM
YEp thatsa XB.

dat
06-17-2008, 4:00 AM
Yep its a very high quality gold xback aro its 6th row of scales is almost fully crossed over.

bigchubz
06-18-2008, 2:55 AM
215722
let me know

dredtonix
06-21-2008, 1:07 AM
you got that right! here in the Philippines the x-back golden is more commonly called the Malayan Bonytongue. So now i know that they're one and the same variety. tnx very much for this info.

kriztu
06-24-2008, 11:01 PM
215722
let me know

where are you located exactly? you need to know first if its legal for you to keep asian arowanas in your area

mferrufino
08-14-2008, 8:36 PM
Are the golden aros band from sale in asia

luckycharm88
08-29-2008, 9:20 PM
here's my 23" high back blue based RTG from Qian Hu Farm, for comments 09202932441 Manila Philippines

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5443/hbrtg1dh5.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hbrtg1dh5.jpg)



http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2901/hbrtg2yi0.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hbrtg2yi0.jpg)




http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3039/hbrtg3vy6.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hbrtg3vy6.jpg)

luckycharm88
08-29-2008, 9:26 PM
this is my Red tail golden blue base beautiful comparative to golden arowana's quality
09202932441 Manila Philippines


http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2896/rtgbluebase1ei5.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rtgbluebase1ei5.jpg)


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3957/hbrtggc3.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hbrtggc3.jpg)

Robert_Lu999
09-20-2008, 5:38 AM
why the bloodly hell did you give your contact number for?

kriztu
09-24-2008, 2:54 AM
maybe he's trying to sell these types of aros from quan hu?

patrickjohnsgarcia
09-26-2008, 5:00 AM
nice info tnx

richie lee
11-26-2008, 3:02 AM
a lot of info....where my head.....you must of read it somewhere!
i like it

Hao
12-31-2008, 12:02 AM
Golden XB are my favorite arowana and fish lol

meanbestorque
01-09-2009, 12:53 AM
i never knew too much about x backs... great info

unity4872
02-12-2009, 9:00 AM
thanks great info.

sodenoshirayuki
02-25-2009, 10:57 PM
What the heck does bbcb stand for?

ctoychik
02-26-2009, 3:21 AM
What the heck does bbcb stand for?

blue base cross back?

sodenoshirayuki
02-26-2009, 7:44 PM
ooo, my bad, im used to seeing Xback.