ID help

[hitemup4u]

I got some new fish for m 125 all male hap/peacock tank this weekend and could not ID a couple of them. Any help would be appreciated

[hitemup4u]

This is what i think:

Pic 1 or pic 2 - one should be o. lithobates but not both sine they were all "supposed" to be different
Pic 3 - I honestly have no idea
Pic 4 - I believe is A. stuartgranti and i believe ngara for the collection point

any thoughts?

[straitjacketstar]

1 & 2 look like Copadichromis trewavasae or one of the other Mloto type Copads.

[hitemup4u]

here is another picture of #1 with a little more color on him

[NotoriousSway]

#1 & #2. some type of malawi hap
#3. Protomelas "Spilonotus Tanzania"
#4. Aulonocara stuartgranti "Ngara"

[straitjacketstar]

here is another picture of #1 with a little more color on him

Still looks like a mloto type Copadichromis.

These are some shots of my juvies. You can see the spot and barring pattern is similar.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/straitjacketstar/Malawi/Copadichromis%20trewavasae/4-20-06058-Copadichromistrewavasae.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/straitjacketstar/Malawi/Copadichromis%20trewavasae/DSC00515-Copadichromistrewavasae.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/straitjacketstar/Malawi/Copadichromis%20trewavasae/DSC02636-CopadichromistrewavasaeJuv.jpg

It can be hard to get a 100% positive ID without full male coloration and even then it can be hard to pin the species but males don't usually color up till they start hitting 3.5". Mine didn't color till 4" and never wore his full colors unless he was spawning only because he wasn't the dominant fish in the tank. I never got the chance to get a decent pic of him in full dress but he looked like this. (googled photo)
http://www.abysse-cichlides.com/images/Copadichromis%20trewavasae%20ivoire%20Lupingu.jpg

Otherwise he was just had a dark-barred body with a pale dorsal edged with a white line.

[frozen-fire]

1. copadichromis (probably trewavasae mloto likomo)
2. protomelas spilonotus tanzania
3. aulonocara stuartgranti ngara or chilumba

[bl00]

I agree with the ngara id. Very beautiful specimen :D

[hitemup4u]

some sad news to report, due to the current weather situation(1-1/2" of ice and 8" of snow) and lack of power I lost fish 1,2, and 4 along with and electric blue ahali and a red fin borylei. Right not i have saved the other fish, 9 others from this tank, 14 from a grow out tank, a breeding group of red empress (2m 6f w/ 1 holding), and many other cory, plecos, and loaches. i have them set up in a 20 gal rubbermaid tote and some of the samll ones in a 5 gal but it could be as long as next weekend (2/7-8) till I get power back. wish me luck because I could use some right about now. I know I am not the only one in the area to lose fish

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LTFF/messages

but its still hard.

[mahemaheman85]

some sad news to report, due to the current weather situation(1-1/2" of ice and 8" of snow) and lack of power I lost fish 1,2, and 4 along with and electric blue ahali and a red fin borylei. Right not i have saved the other fish, 9 others from this tank, 14 from a grow out tank, a breeding group of red empress (2m 6f w/ 1 holding), and many other cory, plecos, and loaches. i have them set up in a 20 gal rubbermaid tote and some of the samll ones in a 5 gal but it could be as long as next weekend (2/7-8) till I get power back. wish me luck because I could use some right about now. I know I am not the only one in the area to lose fish

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LTFF/messages

but its still hard.



go get a generator, its worth the money no matter how you look at it

[MalawiTango]

wow thats sucks man. I wish you the best, I know id be devastated.

[hitemup4u]

about having a generator, well I do have one, but believe it or not one of our generators at work was messed up and since the other 3 were on jobsitesI said I would bring mine in to be used. Well long story short its 4-1/2 hours away right now in Knoxville, Tn. And I work for a family company which if a few years will be mine, so I thought " I won't be needing it anytime soon, so yeah ill bring mine in", and 3 weeks later I couldn't have been more wrong.

[Corleone]

nice pictures

[mahemaheman85]

about having a generator, well I do have one, but believe it or not one of our generators at work was messed up and since the other 3 were on jobsitesI said I would bring mine in to be used. Well long story short its 4-1/2 hours away right now in Knoxville, Tn. And I work for a family company which if a few years will be mine, so I thought " I won't be needing it anytime soon, so yeah ill bring mine in", and 3 weeks later I couldn't have been more wrong.


i know how that is, funny story i did the same thing and left mine in eastern wa, now i have 2 lol

[MoFish78]

good luck man...sorry to hear about your fish.

[Red Devil]

some sad news to report, due to the current weather situation(1-1/2" of ice and 8" of snow) and lack of power I lost fish 1,2, and 4 along with and electric blue ahali and a red fin borylei. Right not i have saved the other fish, 9 others from this tank, 14 from a grow out tank, a breeding group of red empress (2m 6f w/ 1 holding), and many other cory, plecos, and loaches. i have them set up in a 20 gal rubbermaid tote and some of the samll ones in a 5 gal but it could be as long as next weekend (2/7-8) till I get power back. wish me luck because I could use some right about now. I know I am not the only one in the area to lose fish

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LTFF/messages

but its still hard.
i am saddened to hear this.. what a horrible thing.. they were gorgeous.. yes you need lots of battery operated heaters and etc.. how are you on PC??

[hitemup4u]

well I was at work which had power. the good new is power came back on sometime between 5:30p.m and halftime of the superbowl last night. Can home from the in-laws to pick up my wife's car and it was on. water temp in the tanks was up to around 70 this morning in all 3 tanks which is better than the 41 it was at yesterday morning. anyways ill be bringing home the survivors which I fished out on morning 2 of the outage and have been living in either a rubbermaid tote or a 5 gallon bucket. Hopefully there is no more bad news

[Red Devil]

well I was at work which had power. the good new is power came back on sometime between 5:30p.m and halftime of the superbowl last night. Can home from the in-laws to pick up my wife's car and it was on. water temp in the tanks was up to around 70 this morning in all 3 tanks which is better than the 41 it was at yesterday morning. anyways ill be bringing home the survivors which I fished out on morning 2 of the outage and have been living in either a rubbermaid tote or a 5 gallon bucket. Hopefully there is no more bad news
i hope no more bad news either ... you have sufferered already... more then enough...best of luck