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Touzer
02-04-2009, 3:21 AM
Question About SnakeHeads . Are There Any Snakeheads That are legal for sale in the US. ?? Any?? Was just wondering

ECarbonel
02-04-2009, 3:22 AM
NO

Touzer
02-04-2009, 3:23 AM
dan it.. was hoping for "Yes" ;)

ECarbonel
02-04-2009, 3:26 AM
lol well u can still get them just not legal haha

Lupin
02-04-2009, 3:30 AM
Hmmm..Here's the Hawaii list.

The Snakeheads in Lake Wilson are LEGAL they still ship them here I believe

They were brought here over a hundred years ago and the chinese love to eat it

But only one kind is legal its the Channa Striatus or Chevron Snakehead but we call it the Pongee here

A Farm in the North Shore still breeds them for food

it even says its leagl on the prohibited list

HAWAII:

LIST OF PROHIBITED FISH

CLASS Chonodrichthyes
ORDER Carcharhiniformes
FAMILY Carcharhinidae
Carcharhinus nicaraguensis shark, Nicaraguan
freshwater
ORDER Myliobatiformes
FAMILY Dasyatidae
Dasyatidae (all species in stingrays, freshwater
family)
ORDER Orectolobiformes
FAMILY Orectolobidae
Orectolobus maculatus shark, spotted carpet;
(shark, wobbegong)
Orectolobus ornatus shark, banded carpet
ORDER Petromyzoniformes
FAMILY Petromyzonidae
Petromyzonidae (all species in lampreys
family)
CLASS Osteichthyes
ORDER Amiiformes
FAMILY Amiidae
Amiidae (all species in family) bowfins; dogfishes;
mudfishes
ORDER Anguilliformes
Anguilliformes (all species in eels
order)
ORDER Atheriniformes
FAMILY Atherinidae
Atherinomorus stipes silversides, hardhead
FAMILY Belonidae
Belonidae (all species in needlefishes
family)
FAMILY Hemirhamphidae
Hemirhamphidae (all species in halfbeaks
family, except
Dermogenys pusillus and
Nomorhamphus celebensis)
FAMILY Poeciliidae
Belonesox belizanus top minnow, pike
ORDER Cypriniformes
FAMILY Characidae
Acestrorhynchus (all species cachorros
in genus)
Catoprion (all species in genus) piranha
Hydrolycus (all species in characins
genus)
Pygocentrus (all species in genus) piranha
Serrasalminae (all species piranha
in subfamily except the
species in the following
genera: Colossoma, pacu;
Metynnis, silver dollar;
Myleus, silver dollar;
Myloplus, myloplus;
and Mylossoma, pacu)
Serrasalmo (all species in genus) piranha
Serrasalmus (all species in piranha
genus)
FAMILY Gymnotidae
Electrophorus electricus eel, electric
ORDER Myctophiformes
FAMILY Synodontidae
Synodus (all species in genus) lizard fishes
ORDER Osteoglossiformes
FAMILY Osteoglossidae
Arapaima gigas pirarucu
ORDER Perciformes
FAMILY Channidae
Channidae; (Ophiocephaloidae) snake heads
(all species in family, except
Ophiocephalus striatus)
FAMILY Cichlidae
Batrachops (all species in genus) cichlid, pike
Crenicichla (all species in genus) cichlid, pike
FAMILY Eleotrididae
Dormitator maculatus sleeper, spotted
Eleotris (all species in genus) sleepers
Mogurnda mogurnda gudgeon, purple striped
FAMILY Sciaenidae
Pogonias cromis drum, black
Sciaenops ocellatus drum, red
FAMILY Sparidae
Pagrus major bream, red sea
ORDER Polypteriformes
FAMILY Polypteridae
Polypteridae (all species in fishes, bichir
family)
ORDER Scorpaeniformes
FAMILY Scorpaenidae
Amblyapistus taenianotus rouge fish
Dendrochirus zebra lion fish, zebra
Inimicus didactylum sea goblin, popeyed
Paracentropogon longispinis scorpion fish, wispy
Pterois (all species in genus) lion fishes
Scorpaena (all species in genus) scorpion fishes
Scorpaenodes (all species in scorpion fishes
genus)
Synanceia horrida stone fish
Synanceia verrucosa stone fish
Taenianotus triacanthus leaf fish, sailfin
ORDER Semionotiformes
FAMILY Lepisosteidae
Lepisosteidae (all species in garpikes
family)
ORDER Siluriformes
FAMILY Ariidae
Ariidae (all species in family) catfishes, ariid
FAMILY Bagridae
Bagrichthys hypselopterus catfish, black lancer
Clarotes (all species in genus) catfishes, clarotes
FAMILY Clariidae
Clariidae (all species in catfishes
family, except Clarias fuscus)
FAMILY Doradidae
Doradidae (all species in catfishes, doradid
family)
FAMILY Malapteruridae
Malapterurus electricus catfish, electric
FAMILY Pimelodidae
Phractocephalus hemiliopterus catfish, redtailed
Pseudopimelodus transmontanus catfish, Peruvian mottled
Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum catfish, tiger shovelnose
FAMILY Plotosidae
Plotosidae (all species in eels, catfish
family)
FAMILY Siluridae
Wallago attu catfish, helicopter
FAMILY Trichomycteridae
Vandellia cirrhosa candiru
ORDER Synbranchiformes
FAMILY Synbranchidae
Synbranchus afer moray, freshwater
Synbranchus marmoratus moray, freshwater

Touzer
02-04-2009, 3:33 AM
SoOoO... Does That mean "YES"

ECarbonel
02-04-2009, 3:34 AM
haha the wig is classic...

Touzer
02-04-2009, 3:37 AM
I know, Im liking it too.. ehehehe

Lupin
02-04-2009, 3:55 AM
SoOoO... Does That mean "YES"
No. You'll have to move to other countries where snakeheads are legal to own.

http://www.outdoorcentral.com/mc/pr/03/09/24c6.asp


The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has listed all snakeheads as injurious species under the Lacey Act, meaning the federal government bans importing or transporting all snakehead species between the continental U.S., the District of Columbia, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

The federal ban doesn't make it illegal to own or possess a snakehead where they are currently allowed, but it does bar their transfer between states or importation into a state.



See this as well.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36390

whoa
is this true?
FAMILY Channidae
Ophiocephalus (Channa) striatus pongee (snakehead)

i can get a snakehead in hawaii?
:nilly:

no. Federal law prohibits the trafficing of all species of SH across state lines. HI has aligned to the updated laws.

yes i had thought snakeheads were banned everywhere in the us

cichlid2006
02-04-2009, 8:18 AM
i have a question now. as one type of snakehead is allowed, Ophiocephalus striatus, does that mean that if he found a breeder of the allowed species in hawaii he could keep one as it wouldnt be crossing any state lines if i have it right?

Lupin
02-04-2009, 8:23 AM
i have a question now. as one type of snakehead is allowed, Ophiocephalus striatus, does that mean that if he found a breeder of the allowed species in hawaii he could keep one as it wouldnt be crossing any state lines if i have it right?
Per this...

The federal ban doesn't make it illegal to own or possess a snakehead where they are currently allowed, but it does bar their transfer between states or importation into a state.

...in my understanding, it wouldn't be illegal to own the striatas since Hawaii put an exception on the striata of all the channas provided they do not obtain this fish from outside the state except within Hawaii only. Please correct me if this seems wrong.

It's a good question though, Cichlid2006.

cichlid2006
02-04-2009, 9:11 AM
thanks for curing my curiosity.

jlnguyen74
02-05-2009, 2:21 AM
dan it.. was hoping for "Yes" ;)
Actually, YES, all types of snakehead are LEGAL for sale in the US, as long as they are frozen! :eek: :D

fishnut
02-05-2009, 7:48 PM
Actually, YES, all types of snakehead are LEGAL for sale in the US, as long as they are frozen! :eek: :D

So thrawed out snake head considered illegal?:D

MikeMcDh
03-19-2009, 10:39 PM
no doubt.

01C5Vert
04-09-2009, 10:06 PM
Knee jerk reaction to the fish being found in US waters. Despite the dire predictions that the snakehead was gong wipe out the entire indigenous fish population, it hasn't. They are living symbioticly with our native fish.

kog
04-10-2009, 4:33 AM
The fact that theyre competing for resources and even eating native fish isnt a sybiotic relationship.

joworth
04-10-2009, 10:11 AM
The fact that theyre competing for resources and even eating native fish isnt a sybiotic relationship.

yes but all native fish eat each other as it is. its the food chain. we just added a higher predator. they can live symbiotically.

dragonfish18
04-10-2009, 5:06 PM
ive herd of snake heads being in our lakes and rivers....perhaps if u catch one its not buy sell or trading....lol

---XR---
04-10-2009, 5:19 PM
ive herd of snake heads being in our lakes and rivers....perhaps if u catch one its not buy sell or trading....lol

wouldn't matter, in the eyes of anyone who made the law prohibiting them, the only responsible course of action would be to kill it on the spot.

kog
04-10-2009, 9:09 PM
yes but all native fish eat each other as it is. its the food chain. we just added a higher predator. they can live symbiotically.
But its a non-native eating natives, thats a negative impact on the habitat.

gigas12
04-11-2009, 5:02 PM
Hi,a new predatoy species has been added to the food chain,nothing more nothing less,something that has happened world wide,consider for example the introduction of silurus glanis in europe.

kog
04-11-2009, 6:25 PM
Those ecosystems took a long time to develop. Suddenly adding a new species, especially a predator is bound to have negative effects. Unless you know exactly how the ecosystem will cope with it, you cant say for sure that its not a problem. Then again, even introducing a new species limits resources for natives, just because its eating stuff/occupying some space. That means less natives, you can twist that any way you want but at the end of the day its bad.

gigas12
04-12-2009, 2:47 AM
Yes,thats true,I am not saying that the contrary but the issue was grealtly exaggerated.

Retuks
04-12-2009, 4:04 AM
how about piranhas? so many more of them have been irresponsibly released in states now illegal and they haven't had any population boom or take-over, they just seem to be "discovered" in the lakes ever now and again. but most of them die off even if they can live in the waters year-round.

perhaps they are sooo instinctive, they travel down whatever stream they where released from (ie the mississippi etc), through mexico, all the way back down to the amazon with compelling radar/GPS-like receptors in their brains!!

gigas12
04-12-2009, 12:20 PM
Hi,thats right we cant convict predatory only,there is a great number of fishes predatory fishes and non ,which adapt to other ambients,creating a negative impact. This is not caused by nature but by man,the solution is not to ban species but in a education of people who keep fish.

FSM
04-12-2009, 1:43 PM
yes but all native fish eat each other as it is. its the food chain. we just added a higher predator. they can live symbiotically.

That's not symbiosis...

blazin1
04-14-2009, 9:31 AM
bowfin will take care of it

duanes
04-14-2009, 12:58 PM
I've seen plenty of snakeheads for sale in Milwaukee. most often the red juvies.

beblondie
04-18-2009, 10:26 AM
Snakeheads are NOT illegal in all states the Federal law simply prohibits the transportation across state lines or importation into the United states or it posessions.-Anne

gigas12
04-18-2009, 4:24 PM
Hi,beblondie I agree,hopefully things will change.