what are these classifications F0, F1, etc

[michaeljames]

when buying fish, I notice alot of times online, classifications like F1 and F0. I know wild means wild caught but its confusing, is there any other classifications I havent mentioned?

[Cichlaholics Anonymous]

f0=wild
f1=the offspring of f0
and so on...

[pwmin]

I thought F0 meant nothing and the correct "abbreviation" is W (or WC)

[mike dunagan]

F0 in fish hobby terms mean generation zero, so the same as Wild caught. F1 one generation removed from wild. F2 two generations removed. Not if F1 and F0 mate, the off spring in an F2. Hope this helps.

[jerppyjerp]

Not if F1 and F0 mate, the off spring in an F2. Hope this helps.

:nilly::nilly::confused::confused::confused:

[Ben268]

meaning if a F1 generation fish breeds witha wild captive fish, then technically it's offspring is a F2(second generation captive bred) because it is the second generation to be bred within captivity in that lineage....hopefully you were confused, and not just pointing out that ti doens't make sense....and if that's the case, disregard this post. :D

[TheFishJunky]

i cant stand algebra:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

[titansfever83]

If the male is F0 and the female is F1, babies are what?



F0.5 :confused::screwy:

[Druu]

I would just tell the buyer that it's a cross between a f0 and f1. If nothing else, it would be a f1.5 (Train of thought is that f0xf0=f1 anf f1xf1=f2, so something with a f1 parent cannot be more wild [f0.5] than the parent itself).

Even if you can figure out a decimal f-number, what happens when that fish gets bred?

[monty_javier]

f1.25....if your lucky atleast:)

[Druu]

f1.25....if your lucky atleast:)

At best, f1.5 - the offspring f-number is one integer higher than that of the parents. Where the parents are of the same f-number, there is no problem. Where parents are of different f-numbers, you can either average the numbers or assign a decimal point number. The problem arises when you breed a f4 to a f0. Averaging would give you f2 before you added the integer. It's illogical to have a f3 offspring from a f0xf3. The alternative would be to add the decimal and end up with a f4.5, which also makes little sense.

[monty_javier]

Actually I was going more in the joke direction. I guess it was a stretch, givin the lack of though put in. But it's whatever.

[titansfever83]

Thanks Druu. The F0.5 was just me being silly.

I won't even label them as "F" anything when they are ready to be sold. But if a customer asks I will tell them about my breeding pair.

[Druu]

Thanks Druu. The F0.5 was just me being silly.

I won't even label them as "F" anything when they are ready to be sold. But if a customer asks I will tell them about my breeding pair.

That's a good plan. I think Rapps or another cichlid seller started using the f[].5 numbers recently. That would just lead to a lot of confusion.

[Lupin]

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