new pike

[its_an_obsession]

new pike... just picked up a either wallaci or notophthalmus at shark aquarium. not sure what it is. will post some pics in a bit once it gets acclimated. shark aquarium had about 100 of them if anyone is interested.

[freshwaterfishing]

ooooo sweet, cant wait to see the pics!

[its_an_obsession]

also ive never kept any of the dwarf pikes before. hes in a 20g long planted tank right now. will he likely need a bigger tank and if so what min size?

[orbit]

Pixpixpixpixpixpixpixpix! LOL Sorry a little excited here.

[PATSFAN69]

Can't wait for pic's

[its_an_obsession]

sorry the little guy was super spooked last ngiht and wouldnt come out. i saw him swimming around this morning before i went to work. pics after work. promise.

anyone on how long a 20g long with work for?

[its_an_obsession]

taking pics as we speak...

[its_an_obsession]

here it is. i believe its a notopthalmus because of the red ring around the ocelli on the dorsal fin. also threw in my apisto cacatuoides which the pike has decided he doesnt like. unfortunately for him i like pike way to much.

[orbit]

I like the colors on that guy!! Very nice. Any idea how big he'll get?

[devder1]

i would gess about 10" max
you could probably keep him in a 40 breeder for life ;)

[its_an_obsession]

this guy should only get about 4". its one of the dwarf pikes. im pretty positive its a female notophthalmus. i think im gonna head back and try to get a male and make a pair. might pick up another female to increase chances of getting a pair.

[FSM]

i would gess about 10" max
you could probably keep him in a 40 breeder for life ;)

:screwy:

Its a dwarf pike, the 20 should be fine.

[darth pike]

A 20 long is fine for one dwarf pike, rather it is noto or an orinoco dwarf (which is what I believe the colombian wallacii actually are after comparing pics of mine to the orinoco's).

A 20 long will not be long enough to pair them up though unless you get lucky and find love at first sight. These little guys are just as grumpy as the normal sized ones to each other. I've even had them kill each other off in 40 breeders and 75 gallon tanks.

As for which one, you'd really need a pic of the male's dorsal fin. My 'wallacii'/orinoco females were ringed in an orangish red where the female's ring was deep red. But I couldn't pick that out unless I had them side by side. I'm leaning noto due to the tail coloration, but without seeing if the males have the extended cac-like dorsal fin, I wouldn't be 100% sure.

[devder1]

o im sorry guys i was not thinking :nilly:
didnt realize it was dwarf :(

[piKefaNatic]

nice fish like the red ring on the pike

[its_an_obsession]

yea the red ring is nice. they have around a hundred at shark aquarium. i picked up two more. im wondering about the dorsal ocelli tho. i was looking through the tank and i know that the ocelli si a sign of female. but i could only find one other with the dorsal ocelli. they are pretty small at a bout 1-1.5 inches so i dont know if that trait shows up later on.

i picked up another one with the dorsal ocelli and one without. will try to take some pictures later and post.

[darth pike]

That sounds about right, when I bought both noto's and wallacii/orinoco dwarves they were male heavy. Two females to 10 males or see each time. The ocelli show up early.

I know it'll be hard, but try to get a pic of the male with the dorsal raised up.

[its_an_obsession]

ill try... they had a bit of ich when i bought them and are alittle intimidated by the bigger one. do those extended dorsal rays in males show up in when they are very small? ill try to get a pick tomorrow or see if i see it.

[darth pike]

I've only seen adults for sale. at least 2.5-3" already, and they had the extensions. Smaller than that, I couldn't rightly say yet ...