The Snapper Thread

[Armand]

Hi guys.

Recently and after a long wait I got into snappers. I post some pictures of him and wait for you to post the picts of your favorite snapper turtle aswell.

Lets make this Thread the Snapper Thread of monsterfishkeepers:headbang2



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[evilstreets]

good topic. thats why im here.

my sleeping/snapping turtle. she is so vicious!!!
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt10.jpg
roaming the tank.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt1.jpg
roaming the living room.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt4.jpg
headshot.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt5.jpg

[navyfinch]

Hi, i recently inherited a 4" common snapping turtle in a 30 gallon setup. The setup is land based with woodchips and sand with a large water bowl. I was wondering if their are any experienced snapper owners that would recommend a different setup as it is fairly dull. i was thinking something along the lines of a more aquatic setup with maybe feeders that he could snack on at will. Any and all help appreciated.

[CTU2fan]

Land based = bad for a snapper. Basically you want an almost fully aquatic setup but not too deep where they have to swim to breathe. For your 4" snapper figure 8" or water or thereabouts, maybe deeper if you have some wood or whatever for him to rest on, or a rockpile. I tend to have it pretty deep in one end and some structure in the other where the snapper can rest and still breathe. Also you'll want a pretty substantial filter, fluval 405 or comparable, and start planning for a bigger tank.

[navyfinch]

okay thanks for the advice. what kind of substrate should i use if any and should i plant the tank? also what about keeping the feeders in the tank, i know the previous owner was feeding the turtle earthworms mostly.

[spexmoneymaker]

This guy wasn't a pet but he is a snapper all the same. Caught him while fishing for bullhead. He was bleeding cuz the hook was in there pretty good. He was able to walk away from the whole ordeal tho.

[Armand]

okay thanks for the advice. what kind of substrate should i use if any and should i plant the tank? also what about keeping the feeders in the tank, i know the previous owner was feeding the turtle earthworms mostly.


Hi Mate.

First I pretty much agree with whar CTU2fan has told you before.

Now regarding to your question:

Yes you can plant the tank but I would't crowd the buttom with plants just some few resistant ones since the turtle can dig and then you'll have your plants drifting throughout all the tank.

As a subatrate I use Obsidian gravel, but I think if you can use something of smaller grains it would be better, I mean not like the sand of the beach but near to it. This kind of turtles like to dig in the bottom and cover themselves with the gravel to camuflage.

If you can Include a couple of mangler roots of a proper size your turtle would feel more as in home.

I feed mine with life feeders, I just toss a big quantity of fish and river lobsters of an adequate size into the tank and he eats at will.

Your turtle is a Chelydra Serpentina, this kind of turtle accepts pretty much more different kinds of food. You can feed him with beefheart as well besides life feeders. You should include some vegetables, mainly lettuce leaves every once in a while.

I hope you can post some picts of him...:headbang2


Cheers.

[Armand]

good topic. thats why im here.

my sleeping/snapping turtle. she is so vicious!!!
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt10.jpg
roaming the tank.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt1.jpg
roaming the living room.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt4.jpg
headshot.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss277/frinklinstein/turt5.jpg


Geee man nice monster turtle you have in there.......!!!!!!

I just love the way it looks, it is really nice.:)

Congratulations and hang on with me in this thread!!!.:headbang2

[Armand]

This guy wasn't a pet but he is a snapper all the same. Caught him while fishing for bullhead. He was bleeding cuz the hook was in there pretty good. He was able to walk away from the whole ordeal tho.


Well mate I just hope that monster is better by now. Pretty nice indeed, and pretty fat aswell!!!:headbang2.

Cheers.

[Dan Feller]

Great thread, Armando. Is your turtle a Mexican Snapping Turtle? (C. serpentina rossignoni)

There aren't many MFK'ers from Mexico, good to see there are some monsters South of the border!

Here's a few photos of Snappy, my Common Snapping Turtle.

[Vicious_Fish]

Well it's been a while since I had a snapper. Here are a few pics of the last one I had in his feeding tub. I found him while walking my dogs on the State Game Lands near my house in the early fall of '04. I'm pretty sure it was run over by a tractor/mower because it had some big dings in it's shell and it's plastron was cracked. It was stuck in the mud next to a dried up drainage pond. It took the snapper home, patched it up and kept it indoors over winter. It was the most laid back snapper I ever met. Never tried to strike or anything. In the spring I put it in one of my turtle ponds and they dang thing crawled out during the night and was never seen again. It guess it was healthy enough to make the journey back home!
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/snapper2.gif
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/snapper1.gif

[Vicious_Fish]

Not my tank (I wish!). This was a setup I saw while visiting the Pine Knoll Aquarium in NC a few years ago.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/Bluegills.gif
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/Snapper-Closeup.gif
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[Armand]

Great thread, Armando. Is your turtle a Mexican Snapping Turtle? (C. serpentina rossignoni)

There aren't many MFK'ers from Mexico, good to see there are some monsters South of the border!

Here's a few photos of Snappy, my Common Snapping Turtle.


Hi Dan.

As a matter of fact this turtle of mine is an endemic spicies to the United States only and the scientific name is that of Macrochlemys Tenminicki.:)

What happen with the picts of your turtle, nothing shows up?????:cry:

[wild caught]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/Bluegills.gif

thats awesome! i need to get out their someday

[GunmetalG35]

This is a good thread Armando. I'll post my AST as soon as I find my camera.

[skateatburners]

i had 2 a little smaller than the one in the first pic. they rocked

[wolfcichild027]

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[wolfcichild027]

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[wolfcichild027]

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[wolfcichild027]

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[wolfcichild027]

older pics about 3 summers ago

[wolfcichild027]

raised a hatchling to about the size of the one in wild caughts photo till i realesed him but he knew how to hunt because i didnt give him pellets that often i mostly gave him mummichogs

[Armand]

Nice photos guys, lets continue.....


Who's next????:headbang2

[madehtsobi]

cool pics!

ill post mine up soon!!

[Armand]

cool pics!

ill post mine up soon!!


You'd better Dude....:)

[Dan Feller]

Hi Dan.

As a matter of fact this turtle of mine is an endemic spicies to the United States only and the scientific name is that of Macrochlemys Tenminicki.:)

What happen with the picts of your turtle, nothing shows up?????:cry:

That's cool, I've never seen a M. tenminicki before. Can't wait to see him get bigger!

I don't know what happened to the photos, maybe I didn't wait for them to upload completely... :screwy:

How is the availability of fish in Mexico City? Anything really exotic (Asian Aros or Snakeheads, for example)? There was a member from Guadalajara that said that Mexico doesn't have many really good fish stores but that Mexico City was the exception to that rule. I've been to a few fish stores in Mexico (Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco, Oaxaca) but I've never seen anything in the way of monsters.

[coura]

Not my tank (I wish!). This was a setup I saw while visiting the Pine Knoll Aquarium in NC a few years ago.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/Bluegills.gif
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/Snapper-Closeup.gif
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/The_Interloper/Reptiles/Swamp-Critters.gif
:drool::drool::drool::drool::headbang2

[Vicious_Fish]

That's cool, I've never seen a M. tenminicki before. Can't wait to see him get bigger!

I'm sure you've seen one before Dan, that's the scientific name of the Alligator Snapping Turtle.

[granuccibar]

bruce (:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p128/granuccibar/bruceone.jpg

[Dan Feller]

I'm sure you've seen one before Dan, that's the scientific name of the Alligator Snapping Turtle.

I guess I should have known that... For some reason I was thinking they were also in the Chelydra genus.

Actually, I've only seen one Alligator Snapper in real life, but I've seen enough photos that I should have recognized the little bugger!

[Armand]

That's cool, I've never seen a M. tenminicki before. Can't wait to see him get bigger!

I don't know what happened to the photos, maybe I didn't wait for them to upload completely... :screwy:

How is the availability of fish in Mexico City? Anything really exotic (Asian Aros or Snakeheads, for example)? There was a member from Guadalajara that said that Mexico doesn't have many really good fish stores but that Mexico City was the exception to that rule. I've been to a few fish stores in Mexico (Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco, Oaxaca) but I've never seen anything in the way of monsters.

Terrific creature Dan!!!:headbang2

Well he was right about that......:cry:

I live in Mexico City and if you want something exotic you might find it but yet it is not an easy task...

I happened to find my turtle in a place called the fishpet market. I went to buy some life feeders for my redbellies and then I saw the Snapper. Actually I got quite surprised this turtles are very rare in trade of course I bought it at once. It cost me about 40 box.

To find exotic fish spicies is not common aswell. If you are into piranhas like me, you suffer even to find redbellies, not to talk about serras, they are almos out of the question.

I am in touch with one guy who sold me my reds, he is going to get me some cariba in short.

Cheers.

[Armand]

bruce (:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p128/granuccibar/bruceone.jpg


Nice Snapper.

Thanks dude!!!!:headbang2

[madehtsobi]

heres my guy!

[evilstreets]

nice ast. water Seems a little deep.
is this all the snappers we can get?

[madehtsobi]

it's actually not that bad!

he sit on the top of the DW and sticks his head out!

[Armand]

Nice Snnaper, it is just like mine.

I Actually find the tank set up very nice.

Cheers.

[GunmetalG35]

Here's mine:)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Suicide714/AST.jpg

[408smokin]

heres my guy!
Sweet tank man!! very impressive setup!!

[Armand]

Here's mine:)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Suicide714/AST.jpg


Thanks mate.

Just 2 comments:

I see you are in california and this kind of turtle of yours is forbbiden in that state. Why is it forbbiden in Cal. and how you dealed with that fact.

And Could you pease post some more picts. This one is noc clear.


Cheers.:headbang2

[GunmetalG35]

:naughty:Yeah I got it from a friend... I'll post the whole tank set up.. Not done yet..

[Armand]

Can't wait to see dude!!!!.

[madehtsobi]

Sweet tank man!! very impressive setup!!


thanks man!!!

[madehtsobi]

Here's mine:)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Suicide714/AST.jpg



awesome guy there!!!

i wish mine wouldnt open up like that!!

mines like shy...:(

[Dan Feller]

Thanks mate.

Just 2 comments:

I see you are in california and this kind of turtle of yours is forbbiden in that state. Why is it forbbiden in Cal. and how you dealed with that fact.

And Could you pease post some more picts. This one is noc clear.


Cheers.:headbang2

Yeah, I was noticing the same thing.

I had posted a bunch of stuff about my Snapper before I found out they were illegal in Oregon. :nilly: I jumped through a bunch of hoops for the Department of Fish and Wildlife and finally got a permit for Snappy.

Anyhow, I'm sure you keep your turtle in your other house out of state... :ROFL:

[Pharaoh]

Wow, didn't know snappers were so popular. Makes me wish I still had mine. He was probably 12" front of shell to back. Mean as it gets too! I loved it, just didn't have the room at the time.

[granuccibar]

Nice Snapper.

Thanks dude!!!!:headbang2
thank you

[Armand]

Well people, what seems to be the problem?????.


More picts please!!!!


Cheers.

[madehtsobi]

what do you guys feed your snappers??

[Noto]

My camera's on the blink; once I get that figured out I'll put some photos of my guys up.

[Armand]

what do you guys feed your snappers??

Mine eats minnows and little river lobsters most of the time and every once in a while I feed him beffheart.


Cheers.

[Armand]

My camera's on the blink; once I get that figured out I'll put some photos of my guys up.


Ok Dude, :)


Cheers.

[madehtsobi]

Mine eats minnows and little river lobsters most of the time and every once in a while I feed him beffheart.


Cheers.


river lobsters?? what do they look like? expensive?

i just put feeders and some cocktail shrimp!

[GunmetalG35]

Yeah river lobsters? I feed mine guppy and reptomin pellet.

[Armand]

river lobsters?? what do they look like? expensive?

i just put feeders and some cocktail shrimp!


Wel I just dont know if it is the correct term in english, in spanish we call them that way, River lobsters (langostas de rio) also we call them "acoiles" which is an indian word to describe them.

Imagine a lobster but in a small size 1" 1.5", I think you use another name to describe this animal.

They are really cheap you can buy 30 of them with the equivalent to one dollar. :)


Cheers.

[Noto]

Those are called 'river shrimp' or 'longarm shrimp' in the US. They are not very common here except in the deep south, and most Americans don't know about them.

[madehtsobi]

Wel I just dont know if it is the correct term in english, in spanish we call them that way, River lobsters (langostas de rio) also we call them "acoiles" which is an indian word to describe them.

Imagine a lobster but in a small size 1" 1.5", I think you use another name to describe this animal.

They are really cheap you can buy 30 of them with the equivalent to one dollar. :)


Cheers.


interesting...

only thing close i guess is the ghost shrimps? those are like 20 for $1 here....

[Dan Feller]

Wel I just dont know if it is the correct term in english, in spanish we call them that way, River lobsters (langostas de rio) also we call them "acoiles" which is an indian word to describe them.

Imagine a lobster but in a small size 1" 1.5", I think you use another name to describe this animal.

They are really cheap you can buy 30 of them with the equivalent to one dollar. :)


Cheers.

Sounds like a small crawdad (crayfish) to me.

Do they look anything like this?

[Armand]

Yes basically they're very simmilar.


cheers.

[Dan Feller]

I took my Snapper to our school district's science fair (I'm a teacher).

Our exhibit was on invasive species. Snappy was very popular, nobody had ever seen anything like him before.

[Armand]

I took my Snapper to our school district's science fair (I'm a teacher).

Our exhibit was on invasive species. Snappy was very popular, nobody had ever seen anything like him before.


Good, that is a big snapper.


How old is your snapper?.

Cheers.

[madehtsobi]

armand! those "lobsters" are huge!!!!!! lol


dan!!! wow!!!!! HES HUGE!!!!!!!

[Armand]

armand! those "lobsters" are huge!!!!!! lol


dan!!! wow!!!!! HES HUGE!!!!!!!


Nope man they're small.

That's what i state in a former most of mine:

Imagine a lobster but smaller...1"-1.5"


Cheers.

[coura]

I took my Snapper to our school district's science fair (I'm a teacher).

Our exhibit was on invasive species. Snappy was very popular, nobody had ever seen anything like him before.
Is snappy a boy?:confused: It seems a girl to me?

[madehtsobi]

Nope man they're small.

That's what i state in a former most of mine:

Imagine a lobster but smaller...1"-1.5"


Cheers.



ahhh thats right! sorry im slow today! :(

[killerfish]

my snapper

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w242/kieranstuff/Stuff.jpg?t=1235166733 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;)

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w242/kieranstuff/turtle2.jpg?t=1235166849 (javascript:void(0);)

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w242/kieranstuff/turtle3.jpg?t=1235166871 (javascript:void(0);)

[granuccibar]

I took my Snapper to our school district's science fair (I'm a teacher).

Our exhibit was on invasive species. Snappy was very popular, nobody had ever seen anything like him before.

can you PLEASE be my teacher lmao!

[gootswa]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2myt55u.jpg

[madehtsobi]

cool pics!!!!!!!

[Dan Feller]

Good, that is a big snapper.


How old is your snapper?.

Cheers.

He's getting there! Snappy is about nine or ten years old.

armand! those "lobsters" are huge!!!!!! lol


dan!!! wow!!!!! HES HUGE!!!!!!!

Snappy is pretty big, but could still triple or even quadruple in weight! :WHOA:

Is snappy a boy?:confused: It seems a girl to me?

How can I tell? You very well could be right...

can you PLEASE be my teacher lmao!

If you're a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd grader you can move out here to Oregon and go to Silver Crest School!

[evilstreets]

http://www.chelydra.org/malefemale02.jpg

[Dan Feller]

http://www.chelydra.org/malefemale02.jpg

Thanks, it does look like Snappy is a "she". Is it the difference in the distance between the plastron and the vent that I'm looking for?

[evilstreets]

yes. and the plastron of the female seems to come to a slight point as to where the male seems to be more blunt.

[Armand]

my snapper

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w242/kieranstuff/Stuff.jpg?t=1235166733 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;)

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w242/kieranstuff/turtle2.jpg?t=1235166849 (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w242/kieranstuff/turtle3.jpg?t=1235166871 (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)


Great pictures..:eek: I love your snapper...mine is going to be jelous....:cry::ROFL:

Cheers.:headbang2

[Armand]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2myt55u.jpg


This si also a quite good snap of one snapper...:ROFL:.

We are getting excelent stuff so far.


Thanks.

[INDK617]

ive always wanted an alligator snapper, but i wouldnt even know where to begin looking for one. plus, i live in mass, where like everything is illegal to keep as a pet.

[Armand]

Well man let me tell you something, cocaine and marihuana are also forbbiden and I am pretty sure you know people who are into them.....

[le patron]

nice snappers guys

[granuccibar]

If you're a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd grader you can move out here to Oregon and go to Silver Crest School!

damn im in 11th

[granuccibar]

Thanks, it does look like Snappy is a "she". Is it the difference in the distance between the plastron and the vent that I'm looking for?

how big do they have to be to see what they are?
mine is 3 inches.

[madehtsobi]

how big do they have to be to see what they are?
mine is 3 inches.


yeh mines like 3-4" too...i think they are still too young to tell...i could be wrong?

[Dan Feller]

I cropped the photo a little closer to give a better view. I'm pretty sure he's a she...

[Armand]

I cropped the photo a little closer to give a better view. I'm pretty sure he's a she...


Hi Dan.

Yes I am pretty sure it is a girl.

Mine is too.


Cheers.

[evilstreets]

mines a girl as well. i think the girls are more aggressive. i only say this because a friend of mine has two girls and two boys and the girls are viscous and the boys are tame. mine is tame for the time being. shes never snapped at anyone.

[madehtsobi]

i need to check mine...

[Armand]

mines a girl as well. i think the girls are more aggressive. i only say this because a friend of mine has two girls and two boys and the girls are viscous and the boys are tame. mine is tame for the time being. shes never snapped at anyone.


Hi.

Well it depends on how old your turtles are, moreover the Chelydra(common snapping turtle) is believe to be slightly more agressive than Macroclemys(Alligator snapping turtle). Anyway dont be so overconfident specially with big turtles, it doesnt matter you think they are "tamed".

Cheers.

[GunmetalG35]

Waiting for the guppies to pass by........
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Suicide714/ast2.jpg

[Armand]

Waiting for the guppies to pass by........
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Suicide714/ast2.jpg


Cool dude!!!!!.:headbang2



Cheers.

[madehtsobi]

Waiting for the guppies to pass by........
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/Suicide714/ast2.jpg


man i have yet to see mine open his/her mouth!!!

cool pic!

[Armand]

What is going on with you guys, we need more pictures donw here!!!!!:irked:


Come onnn you gusy and gals dont quit on me!!!!!!!:headbang2


More picts please.....:nilly:

[andyjs]

He's not mine, but here's my buddy Steve (named after Steve Irwin as we acquired him right after his death). He's one of the hatchery "pets" where I used to work (among 3 other snappers, 10 sturgeon, a couple tiger salamanders, and other various display fish). I threw the Gatorade bottle in a couple pictures as I couldn't find a tape measure at the time, so I used it to estimate his size later.

[Armand]

Thanks fellow, great chelydra you and your mate have got in there...:headbang2


Who's next??????:popcorn:

[Dan Feller]

Thanks fellow, great chelydra you and your mate have got in there...:headbang2


Who's next??????:popcorn:

Her's a shot of Snappy at home.

By the way, Armando, are you Mexican or British? With all the "cheers" and "mate" you sound like a limey! :ROFL:

[Death Pony]

I'll have to post pictures of the 2 common snappers that live in the lake by my school as soon as the weather gets warmer. They're pretty big!

BTW, Armand. I was in Mexico City in January, loved it!

[coura]

Her's a shot of Snappy at home.

By the way, Armando, are you Mexican or British? With all the "cheers" and "mate" you sound like a limey! :ROFL:
Dont you see him on tv? He apears on monday nigths "hitting based entertainement"! He is Mr Armando Alexandro Estrada:ROFL:Alongside the Samoan buldozer HUMAGA:ROFL::grinno:

[Armand]

Dont you see him on tv? He apears on monday nigths "hitting based entertainement"! He is Mr Armando Alexandro Estrada:ROFL:Alongside the Samoan buldozer HUMAGA:ROFL::grinno:

Nope dudes I am Mexican and live in Mexico city the fact of the matter is I speak with brits oftenly and get influenced by the way they talk and their expressions. :naughty:


What is a limley?


Or how did you expected a mexican to talk: Whatsaaa, U my homes u my people eseeeeeee.....:ROFL:

Real mexicans don't talk like that that is a cholo thing.

[madehtsobi]

Nope dudes I am Mexican and live in Mexico city the fact of the matter is I speak with brits oftenly and get influenced by the way they talk and their expressions. :naughty:


What is a limley?


Or how did you expected a mexican to talk: Whatsaaa, U my homes u my people eseeeeeee.....:ROFL:

Real mexicans don't talk like that that is a cholo thing.


hahahahhahahahahhahahaha:ROFL:

[Fishcrunch]

What lovely turtles! Look like they date back to the time of Pangea.

[Armand]

I'll have to post pictures of the 2 common snappers that live in the lake by my school as soon as the weather gets warmer. They're pretty big!

BTW, Armand. I was in Mexico City in January, loved it!


Really?, And just tell me what places did you sliked the most?.

I live near by Coyoacán, did you visited that place?.


Cheers.

[Dan Feller]

Nope dudes I am Mexican and live in Mexico city the fact of the matter is I speak with brits oftenly and get influenced by the way they talk and their expressions. :naughty:


What is a limley?


Or how did you expected a mexican to talk: Whatsaaa, U my homes u my people eseeeeeee.....:ROFL:

Real mexicans don't talk like that that is a cholo thing.

A Limey is a Brit, they got that name back in the sailing days when the British Sailors would suck on limes to prevent scurvy (or so the story goes).

I thought maybe you had spent some time in England from the way you write. :grinno:

[Armand]

A Limey is a Brit, they got that name back in the sailing days when the British Sailors would suck on limes to prevent scurvy (or so the story goes).

I thought maybe you had spent some time in England from the way you write. :grinno:


Hi Dan.

Quite indeed ladd::ROFL:


That's me visiting the "limeys".:headbang2

http://i44.tinypic.com/2enqdfc.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/35jkvpz.jpg

[Dan Feller]

Hi Dan.

Quite indeed ladd::ROFL:


That's me visiting the "limeys".:headbang2

http://i44.tinypic.com/2enqdfc.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/35jkvpz.jpg

That's very cool, I would love to see Stonehenge. Also, you could visit Bruce Bogwood!

[Armand]

Lets get back into topic:

Here is another pic of "Panzer" I have just named her (I am almost sure my turtle is a gal):eek:. though I am not quite convinced about that name.... What other name do you suggest for her?


http://i37.tinypic.com/w1pkb5.jpg

[Dan Feller]

Lets get back into topic:

Here is another pic of "Panzer" I have just named her (I am almost sure my turtle is a gal):eek:. though I am not quite convinced about that name.... What other name do you suggest for her?


http://i37.tinypic.com/w1pkb5.jpg

I like the tank reference, but it isn't very feminine. Then again, neither is "Snappy"...

Here's a close-up shot:

[neonvertigo]

My common Snapper...Bowser
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/neonvertigo/Bowsertnk.jpg

[coura]

Lets get back into topic:

Here is another pic of "Panzer" I have just named her (I am almost sure my turtle is a gal):eek:. though I am not quite convinced about that name.... What other name do you suggest for her?


http://i37.tinypic.com/w1pkb5.jpg
Its still very soon to be shure of sex (no sex hormones as of yet so sexes very similar;)) if indeed female what about Neera or Sheena. If male I like Kron;)

[Armand]

I like the tank reference, but it isn't very feminine. Then again, neither is "Snappy"...

Here's a close-up shot:


Cheers Dan. (Limey style seems to like....):ROFL:


Snappy is a quite pretty CST , her face mekes me think in that camuflage painting of the special forces.

You could have name her green beret, commando..... but I guess those aren't good names for a girl.

[Armand]

My common Snapper...Bowser
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/neonvertigo/Bowsertnk.jpg


Nice Chelydra dude thanks for your contribution to the biggest thread in repites subforum


Cheers.

[Armand]

Its still very soon to be shure of sex (no sex hormones as of yet so sexes very similar;)) if indeed female what about Neera or Sheena. If male I like Kron;)

Yup, I´ven't thought about that but as a matter of fact that is true, too soon to determin.


Cheers.

[PhullTank57]

Great pics, everybody! :popcorn:

Good thread... some snapshots of my old AST. :)

[OscarRobinson]

This is Rocky. My daughter and I were netting some baby blue gills and we thought he was a rock at first.
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr106/raymgnz/DSC02581.jpg
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr106/raymgnz/DSC02582.jpg

[Dan Feller]

Cheers Dan. (Limey style seems to like....):ROFL:


Snappy is a quite pretty CST , her face mekes me think in that camuflage painting of the special forces.

You could have name her green beret, commando..... but I guess those aren't good names for a girl.

She is pretty, isn't she? :grinno:

I like the way the pattern continues right through her eyes.

[Armand]

Great pics, everybody! :popcorn:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=329063&stc=1&d=1235718379
Good thread... some snapshots of my old AST. :)


Outrageous Mate!!!!! i:headbang2

Very nice specimen.


How old id your turtle?


Cherrs.

[Armand]

This is Rocky. My daughter and I were netting some baby blue gills and we thought he was a rock at first.
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr106/raymgnz/DSC02581.jpg
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr106/raymgnz/DSC02582.jpg

So is that Chelydra a wild caught?.


Where did you catch it?.

[OscarRobinson]

a pond near my house.

[madehtsobi]

HOW COME MY SNAPPER NEVER OPENS HIS MOUTH!!!!

[GunmetalG35]

Mandehtsobi hows the temp? water level? Mine is always at 80 very active.

[andyjs]

HOW COME MY SNAPPER NEVER OPENS HIS MOUTH!!!!
Is it a common? They only open their mouth to feed (or when threatened). Only gator snappers sit with their mouth open.

[Armand]

Is it a common? They only open their mouth to feed (or when threatened). Only gator snappers sit with their mouth open.

:iagree:

[MyFishEatYourFish]

here's my common snapper, there's quite a story of how i got him. hes the nicest turtle i have and seems to like to come out of his tank quite a bit. he loves baths and takes the opportunity of not being in his tank to drop a nice log everytime. he also roams the livingroom on occasion, the ferret is terrified, they must have had a runin i am unaware of. it took him a while to get comfortable with the livingroom though.
a quick question, i have had him for 3 years now and haven't had any problems with not giving him uvb light which i have recently learned is a necessity for many reptiles, do turtles not need it?

[coura]

For my experience uv ligth is not 100% needed on turtles as long as they have a very varied diet, with calcium and vit d3;) However uv ligth does seem to increase their life quality and growth in young turtles. Some of my best have been raised on it:D Of corse during MBD uv ligth is needed for the healing process

[madehtsobi]

Mandehtsobi hows the temp? water level? Mine is always at 80 very active.


water level is normal...

temp is pretty cold....


Is it a common? They only open their mouth to feed (or when threatened). Only gator snappers sit with their mouth open.

umm..it looks just like armands snapper......look page 4 for pics of mine...

[Superbuddha14]

Hey everyone, just joined recently and decided to hang out here till i'm more knowledgable about some of these monter fish haha. Currently i have a 75 gal tank with two Alligator Snappers. hoping to find some fish to hang around in the tank with them and won't get eaten haha.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/pic028.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/pic017.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato016-2.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato021-1.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato052-2.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato056-1.jpg

the common is a year and six months old, and the leucistic is 6 months old.

[Superbuddha14]

also, top pic is different because i just switched from a a 55 gal to a 75 gal tank on saturday

[GunmetalG35]

Nice set up Buddha.... The leucistic is cool, 6 months same as mine.

[Superbuddha14]

That's pretty cool, who'd you get yours from? Got both of mine from a breeder, Will Quinn

[TheJD]

Here's a picture of my common snapping turtle Epic

http://people.msoe.edu/~davisjd/Godzilla%20Epic.JPG



And here is a link to the live webcam!
http://thejd.camstreams.com/

The lights should turn on in about 2 hours but you can see him in the far end hiding in the darkness. He gets more active later in the day. Feel free to check him out 24/7!

PS: If there's more than 4 people in the chat, you may not see the feed. There's a limit on the amount of viewers at one time.

[Armand]

water level is normal...

temp is pretty cold....




umm..it looks just like armands snapper......look page 4 for pics of mine...

Hi.

Then we are talking about an Alligator Snapping Turtle Macroclemys Tenminicki. This turtle opens its mouth when hunting or when feels threathened.

Haven't you watch it hunt at anytime?.

They remain liyng down at the bottom of the tank with their mouth wide opened waiting a fish to approach then snap on it...

When I run out of minnows i give my turtle caryfish, white fillet or squid fillet, it seems to accept those options quite well.

When my turtle has eaten enough it lies down on a rock and do not open the mouth til it is hungry again and there are fish around.

Maybe your turtle has been feeding on others food sources like the mentioned above therefore not it is not hungry and doesnt feel like opening the mouth.



Cheers.

[madehtsobi]

Hi.

Then we are talking about an Alligator Snapping Turtle Macroclemys Tenminicki. This turtle opens its mouth when hunting or when feels threathened.

Haven't you watch it hunt at anytime?.

They remain liyng down at the bottom of the tank with their mouth wide opened waiting a fish to approach then snap on it...

When I run out of minnows i give my turtle caryfish, white fillet or squid fillet, it seems to accept those options quite well.

When my turtle has eaten enough it lies down on a rock and do not open the mouth til it is hungry again and there are fish around.

Maybe your turtle has been feeding on others food sources like the mentioned above therefore not it is not hungry and doesnt feel like opening the mouth.



Cheers.


no i havent seen it eat but i see the fishes remains...lol...like half feeder bodies floating atop and such...

so when it doesnt have its mouth opened when i take him out of the water ...that means hes not scared??

[madehtsobi]

Here's a picture of my common snapping turtle Epic

http://people.msoe.edu/%7Edavisjd/Godzilla%20Epic.JPG



And here is a link to the live webcam!
http://thejd.camstreams.com/

The lights should turn on in about 2 hours but you can see him in the far end hiding in the darkness. He gets more active later in the day. Feel free to check him out 24/7!

PS: If there's more than 4 people in the chat, you may not see the feed. There's a limit on the amount of viewers at one time.




thats an awesome live cam!!!

[Superbuddha14]

no i havent seen it eat but i see the fishes remains...lol...like half feeder bodies floating atop and such...

so when it doesnt have its mouth opened when i take him out of the water ...that means hes not scared??

make sure to feed it other foods too, such as reptomin or veggies if possible. what type of feeders are you providing? goldfish are bad, they're full of fat. rosey red minnows are decent but most of thiamine, and many other feeders as well. too much thiamine can be bad so make sure you provide other food sources :cheers:

also that live webcam is sick! wish i could make one for my tank haha

[Superbuddha14]

opps, typing too fast, i meant thiaminase, not thiamine. can't seem to find an edit button :(

[xboroinc]

were can i get a small snapper? were my sister lives they have them but im not trying to go swimming in lakes full of them just for a baby...any help please pm me

[Superbuddha14]

were can i get a small snapper? were my sister lives they have them but im not trying to go swimming in lakes full of them just for a baby...any help please pm me

i wouldn't really reccomend catching them from the wild either, most survive when brought into captivity but they could become stressed or have some kind of disease/worms. here are is a great guy

http://turtleman.com/pricelist.html

shoot me a pm if you want an alligator snapper and i'll send you the breeder's email from where i got my ally snappers. i guess i won't have to warn you about their potential size seeing that we're on monsterfishkeepers and you're experienced with large tanks haha

[xboroinc]

thanx so much man in a week or so when i am ready to buy one i will pm u i have many questions and also can he go with my painted turtle? if not fine i am looking to put my painted in my pond this summer..thanx u tho will pm u soon

[Superbuddha14]

thanx so much man in a week or so when i am ready to buy one i will pm u i have many questions and also can he go with my painted turtle? if not fine i am looking to put my painted in my pond this summer..thanx u tho will pm u soon

Deffinately not. Snapper turtles can get very aggressive. Some don't, but most will. If you try it, it might not do anything at first but as soon as you leave and return, you might see a very unfortunate outcome. Keep it along, house it with a bunch of fish, put lots of driftwood in to climb, get a powerful filter, sit back and enjoy. :) I'll be happy to answer any questions

[Armand]

Hey everyone, just joined recently and decided to hang out here till i'm more knowledgable about some of these monter fish haha. Currently i have a 75 gal tank with two Alligator Snappers. hoping to find some fish to hang around in the tank with them and won't get eaten haha.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/pic028.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/pic017.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato016-2.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato021-1.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato052-2.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato056-1.jpg

the common is a year and six months old, and the leucistic is 6 months old.


Cheers.


Gee man i love you turttles they look terrific. :headbang2

I didnt know about that leucistic variety, I hope you can tell us some more about that one.

[Armand]

Here's a picture of my common snapping turtle Epic

http://people.msoe.edu/~davisjd/Godzilla%20Epic.JPG



And here is a link to the live webcam!
http://thejd.camstreams.com/

The lights should turn on in about 2 hours but you can see him in the far end hiding in the darkness. He gets more active later in the day. Feel free to check him out 24/7!

PS: If there's more than 4 people in the chat, you may not see the feed. There's a limit on the amount of viewers at one time.

Nice Chelydra, I took a glance on web cam's broadcast but couldnt see the turtle.

I'll try it later.


Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

Cheers.


Gee man i love you turttles they look terrific. :headbang2

I didnt know about that leucistic variety, I hope you can tell us some more about that one.

I'm not too familiar but it's a rare occasion. It's like a birth defect like how certain albinos come about but not as rare. While albinos are a lot whiter, leucistics are pink when they're born and when it gets older, my leucistic snapper will turn a nice Carmel color.

[TheJD]

Yeah, he doesn't seem to active today. Basically at the far end of the tank is the gray rubbermain with a hole cut through it. The area of lighter coloring in the lower left of the dark hole (right now, anyway) is him. Just check back now and then to see him swimming around. At least the goldfish will keep you occupied lol

I'm currently breeding crayfish, so hopefully you'll see them crawling around in the future.

[Armand]

Is somebody else posting picts down here???????????:popcorn::)

[Superbuddha14]

I've of a bunch more if you guys are interested haha

[Armand]

I've of a bunch more if you guys are interested haha


So what are you waiting for bro?

Go ahead cant' wait to see them!!!!:popcorn:

[Superbuddha14]

Sorry haha, no access to a comp to upload butbto see all the pics, go to photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtle

[madehtsobi]

Sorry haha, no access to a comp to upload butbto see all the pics, go to photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtle


link no work....

u can upload pics to MFK! :D

[Superbuddha14]

Here's a bunch, enjoy!
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/pic006.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/pic007.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato011.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato016-2.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato015-2.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato024-1.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/superbuddha14/turtles/potato059.jpg

[Superbuddha14]

videos of Goliath and Titan eating some fish too:

edit: for some reason the videos don't turn out right, can someone help me out?

[madehtsobi]

videos of Goliath and Titan eating some fish too:

edit: for some reason the videos don't turn out right, can someone help me out?

nice turtlessssssss...

try posting videos on youtube.com

:)

[madehtsobi]

.

[granuccibar]

http://www.chelydra.org/malefemale02.jpg

oh no, bruce is a girl not a boy lmao.
her name is still gonna be bruce though :ROFL:

[Armand]

Superbuddah:

What are you fedding your snappers?.

How big is that tank of them?

Very nice pictures and turtles....


Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

I've got feeder guppies in there as well as rosey reds and some catfish. Sometimes they eat my danios too though but I expect them too. Every couple of days I put them in a separate tank and feed them reptomin and veggies for more nutrition. I also have a cuttle bone on the tank that they sometimes crunch on for calcium. They're in a 75 gal tank with a Fluval FX5.

[Armand]

I've got feeder guppies in there as well as rosey reds and some catfish. Sometimes they eat my danios too though but I expect them too. Every couple of days I put them in a separate tank and feed them reptomin and veggies for more nutrition. I also have a cuttle bone on the tank that they sometimes crunch on for calcium. They're in a 75 gal tank with a Fluval FX5.


How do you manage to make them eat veggies?

[Dan Feller]

How do you manage to make them eat veggies?

One of the teachers bought a bunch of Aquatic plants for Snappy's tank last year. Within a week they were gone...

[Armand]

One of the teachers bought a bunch of Aquatic plants for Snappy's tank last year. Within a week they were gone...

Hi Dan.

Well you have just said: Snappy, snappy is a chelydra but talking about a macro it is a different ball Dan.


Cheers.

[coura]

Vegetable mater is very inportant on snappers diet;) Chelidras will eat aquatic plants like water letuce and Elodea. Macros in the wild aparently eat lots of aquatic plants, fallen fruit and specialy haycorns. These prevent stuff like piramidism and metabolic probs. One of the easiest ways is to both give them aquatic plants wich grow if not eaten and give them vegetable based reptile and fish pellets as a complement, like mazuri tortoise food, wich normaly are readly eaten

[Superbuddha14]

How do you manage to make them eat veggies?

I should have been a little more specific but what I do is get a few sticks of reptomin, cover with moist, crushed cuttle bone for calcium, and wrap with some romaine lettuce and collard greens. The moist calcium makes it sticky to hold the veggies on. Takes some work but is an exellent source of every nutrient my turtle needs. The added fish in the tank is there for fun and thrill of the hunt too

[Armand]

I should have been a little more specific but what I do is get a few sticks of reptomin, cover with moist, crushed cuttle bone for calcium, and wrap with some romaine lettuce and collard greens. The moist calcium makes it sticky to hold the veggies on. Takes some work but is an exellent source of every nutrient my turtle needs. The added fish in the tank is there for fun and thrill of the hunt too


I am feeding mine with minnows, caryfish and squid fillet and so far so good, he seems to be getting bigger quickly.


Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

Very nice, enough about my alligator snappers, let's see some pics of yours!

[Armand]

Very nice, enough about my alligator snappers, let's see some pics of yours!

Ok we'll have to wait until next sunday and I am trying a couple of new snaps of him.

Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

Sounds great, can't wait to see it

[Dan Feller]

I don't get it - this thread is a discussion of all things snapper!

Just because there are photos posted it's been moved to the Media Lounge?!? If you were to look at the thread carefully you'll see there are more question/response posts than photo "show-and-tell".

Sorry to be so negative, but I don't understand why we need a separate forum in the separate forum.:screwy:

[Armand]

I don't get it - this thread is a discussion of all things snapper!

Just because there are photos posted it's been moved to the Media Lounge?!? If you were to look at the thread carefully you'll see there are more question/response posts than photo "show-and-tell".

Sorry to be so negative, but I don't understand why we need a separate forum in the separate forum.:screwy:

Hi Dan.


Finally it turns out to be the same, I think it makes no difference.

We can go on with our snapper thing the same.


Cheers.

[Dan Feller]

Since I figured out that Snappy is female I've had a nagging worry in the back of my mind.

What if she gets egg-bound?

Has anyone a problem with it? How would you know? What can be done to prevent it? What can be done to treat it?

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but after her last trip to the vet I worry a lot more about her health!

Coura, I'm sure you'll have some good input on this one. :popcorn:

[Armand]

I ain't coura bro but would like to tell you: What about getting a boyfriend for snappy.

Wouldn't you like her to reproduce?. I think It would be great...

Unless you are a "jelous father":ROFL::ROFL:



Cheers.

[Dan Feller]

I ain't coura bro but would like to tell you: What about getting a boyfriend for snappy.

Wouldn't you like her to reproduce?. I think It would be great...

Unless you are a "jelous father":ROFL::ROFL:



Cheers.

That would be very cool, but unfortunately illegal. Snappers (along with all aquatic turtle species) are prohibited in the state of Oregon. I was able to get a prohibited species permit from the Department of Fish and Wildlife for educational purposes, but it specifically prohibits breeding. :irked: Oh, well. At least they didn't come and take her away! :headbang2

[Armand]

That would be very cool, but unfortunately illegal. Snappers (along with all aquatic turtle species) are prohibited in the state of Oregon. I was able to get a prohibited species permit from the Department of Fish and Wildlife for educational purposes, but it specifically prohibits breeding. :irked: Oh, well. At least they didn't come and take her away! :headbang2


Geee Dan I didnt know that was prohibited, I think It is silly, I mean If you reproduce it in a responsible way It would be good for the spicies preservation.... buy I suppose people in the government who made such laws must have good reasons to emit that prohibitions.



Cheers.

[Vicious_Fish]

Dan if she hasn't laid any eggs in the years you've had her she probably won't.

[Dan Feller]

Dan if she hasn't laid any eggs in the years you've had her she probably won't.

Good. I thought that it might be something that happens with age, but I suppose she's been sexually mature for several years now.

Armando,
The law went into effect about nine years ago. Snappers are an invasive species here, the biggest issue is that they prey upon our native turtles (Western Pond Turtles) among other things. It's too bad that irresponsible people release their pets and make things difficult for us responsible owners...:irked:

[coura]

Good. I thought that it might be something that happens with age, but I suppose she's been sexually mature for several years now.

Armando,
The law went into effect about nine years ago. Snappers are an invasive species here, the biggest issue is that they prey upon our native turtles (Western Pond Turtles) among other things. It's too bad that irresponsible people release their pets and make things difficult for us responsible owners...:irked:
Tell me about it:irked: Here we cant have boids:( And you guys cant have ANY aquatic turtles?!:nilly:What can you have herp wise then? Oh well...but anyways dont worry to much about your female turtle, she wont become eggbound easily;) Female turtles can like you know produce eggs with or without the presence of a male. Some like most of mine do it every year, others seldom do it. Its just the matter of giving your turtle a calcium rich diet like woule fish, crayfish,etc, and be observative of signs female turtles give when they are ready to lay(inquietude, spending to much time in the land part, trying to escape, digging, refusing food escept perhaps the favorite,etc), specialy during north hemispere species normal laying period wich goes from mid April to early September (but with frequent emphasis in the mouth of May). If she does produces eggs you do have to give her a large land area with deep mixed sand and peat (a log or 2 wont hurt eiter for privacy). With a single turtle kept as a pet like you have is allways good to check the eggs progress as they are layed and to make shure all are expeled. I do not however see your turtle being that propence to become egg bound:grinno: Species propence to that are thouse turts like black marshs and south american woods that lay only 1 or 2 really large hard eggs. Snappers lay much more, smaller ones;) Unless something really bad happened like her being disturbed mid laying I dont think its a prob:grinno: And even if happened its treatable and with a species with so large shell openings and near bullet prof like snappers are,even if she had to be operated she would recover easily ;)

[Dan Feller]

Tell me about it:irked: Here we cant have boids:( And you guys cant have ANY aquatic turtles?!:nilly:What can you have herp wise then? Oh well...but anyways dont worry to much about your female turtle, she wont become eggbound easily;) Female turtles can like you know produce eggs with or without the presence of a male. Some like most of mine do it every year, others seldom do it. Its just the matter of giving your turtle a calcium rich diet like woule fish, crayfish,etc, and be observative of signs female turtles give when they are ready to lay(inquietude, spending to much time in the land part, trying to escape, digging, refusing food escept perhaps the favorite,etc), specialy during north hemispere species normal laying period wich goes from mid April to early September (but with frequent emphasis in the mouth of May). If she does produces eggs you do have to give her a large land area with deep mixed sand and peat (a log or 2 wont hurt eiter for privacy). With a single turtle kept as a pet like you have is allways good to check the eggs progress as they are layed and to make shure all are expeled. I do not however see your turtle being that propence to become egg bound:grinno: Species propence to that are thouse turts like black marshs and south american woods that lay only 1 or 2 really large hard eggs. Snappers lay much more, smaller ones;) Unless something really bad happened like her being disturbed mid laying I dont think its a prob:grinno: And even if happened its treatable and with a species with so large shell openings and near bullet prof like snappers are,even if she had to be operated she would recover easily ;)

Thanks for the info, it sounds like it isn't as big a problem as I had imagined.

Oregon prohibits A LOT of reptiles, but look who is at the top of the list!

(A) Order Testudines
(i) Snapping turtle – Chelydridae – All species and hybrids;
(ii) Chinese pond turtle – Emydidae – Chinemys All species and hybrids;
(iii) Pond turtle – Emydidae –Clemmys All nonnative species;
(iv) Painted turtle – Emydidae – Chrysemys All nonnative sub–species;
(v) European pond turtle – Emydidae – Emys orbicularis;
(vi) Blanding’s turtle – Emydidae – Emydoidea blandingii;
(vii) Map turtle – Emydidae – Graptemys All species and hybrids;
(viii) Asian pond turtle – Emydidae – Mauremys All species and hybrids;
(ix) Pond slider – Emydidae – Pseudemys and Trachemys All species and hybrids;
(x) Common musk turtle – Kinosternidae – Kinosternon odoratum;
(xi) Common mud turtle – Kinosternidae – Kinosternon subrubrum;
(xii) North American soft shell – Trionychidae – Apalone All species and hybrids;
(xiii) African soft shell – Trionychidae – Trionyx triunguis.
(B) Order Squamata (Suborder Lacertilia)
(i) Slow worm – Anguidae – Anguis fragilis;
(ii) Sand lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta agilis;
(iii) Jewelled Lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta lepida;
(iv) Iberian Mountain Lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta monticola;
(v) Meadow Lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta praticola;
(vi) Iberian Emerald Lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta schreiberi;
(vii) Balkan Emerald Lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta trilineata;
(viii) Emerald Lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta viridis;
(ix) Viviparous Lizard – Lacertidae – Lacerta vivipara;
(x) Erhard’s Wall Lizard – Lacertidae – Podarcis erhardi;
(xi) Iberian Wall Lizard – Lacertidae – Podarcis hispanica;
(xii) Common Wall Lizard – Lacertidae – Podarcis muralis;
(xiii) Crocodile lizard – Xenosauridae – Shinisaurus crocodilurus.
(C) Order Squamata (Suborder Serpentes)
(i) Brown tree snake – Colubridae – Boiga irregularis;
(ii) Black-necked spitting cobra – Elapidae – Naja nigricollis;
(iii) Cape cobra – Elapidae – Naja nivea;
(iv) Copperheads and cottonmouths – Viperidae – Agkistrodon All species and hybrids;
(v) Puff adders – Viperidae – Bitis All species and hybrids except Bitis gabonica and B. nasicornis;
(vi) Lanceheads – Viperidae – Bothrops All species and hybrids;
(vii) Palm pit vipers – Viperidae – Bothriechis All species and hybrids;
(viii) Rattlesnakes – Viperidae – All nonnative species and hybrids except Crotalus aquilus, C. basiliscus, C.
durissus, C. intermedius, C. polystictus, C. pusillus, C. tortugensis, C. triseriatus, C. unicolor, and C. vegrandis;
(ix) Mid-east vipers – Viperidae – Daboia All species and hybrids;
(x) Pygmy rattlesnake – Viperidae – Sistrurus catenatus;
(xi) Asian pit vipers – Viperidae – Trimeresurus All species and hybrids;
(xii) Wagler’s palm viper – Viperidae – Tropidolaemus wagleri;
(xiii) Sand vipers – Viperidae – Vipera All species and hybrids.

[Superbuddha14]

That's a lot of different reptiles haha. Also decided to pick up some black convicts for my tank, 4 for $1.50 so I couldn't resist. They tiny so they might get eaten but it adds a little pizazz to the tank... For the time being haha

[coura]

Hey man you cant keep Lacertas:( Or chinese croc lizards:irked: Wonder how thouse slow breeding endangered animals could like become a plage in Oregon or Lacerta monticola wich is practicly unatainable:grinno: (since you already know people from inside, I would talk to them about the possibility to remove chinese croc lizards from there;) most house plants are more dangerous to the ecossistem, its simply unracional) But you can keep sideneck turtles including matamatas, many musks, asian softshells and tortoises:D Do you have reptile shows?

[Superbuddha14]

I'd love a matamata one day. Probably my second favorite next to alligator snappers. Once my alligator snappers grow up and into a pond I'll get a matamata

[Armand]

Hi dudes.

As I promised I am posting several fotos of now two snappers, the gator snapper and the common snapper:

http://s5.tinypic.com/betvra.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/2vjshue.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/1q1fuf.jpg

I'll be back in a moment with more....

[Armand]

Continue....

http://s5.tinypic.com/o93bcx.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/2lkww74.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/1q1fuf.jpg


http://s5.tinypic.com/2wbxf6o.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/2vjshue.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/betvra.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/b6ooq1.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/2vm7alw.jpg


http://s5.tinypic.com/2nlzbl3.jpg

[Armand]

Last one ain't a Snapper but anyway i like the pic.


Cheers.

[Dan Feller]

Hi dudes.

As I promised I am posting several fotos of now two snappers, the gator snapper and the common snapper:

http://s5.tinypic.com/betvra.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/2vjshue.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/1q1fuf.jpg

I'll be back in a moment with more....

Is that your school in the background?

[Superbuddha14]

Great looking turtles! Looks like your gator snapper is picture shy, always has its eyes slightly closed haha

[Armand]

Is that your school in the background?


Hi Dan.

Nope, it is not my school that is a small highschool that is located in front of a park in the neiborhood I live in and is pretty calm and nice.


Cheers.

[Armand]

Great looking turtles! Looks like your gator snapper is picture shy, always has its eyes slightly closed haha


It is because there was some sand remaining over the gator snapper shell and head and some seemed to have gotten inside his eyes.


Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

Ah I see, I'd love to have sand in my tank but it's probably a pain to clean, even my river rocks are a pain but I love it haha

[Armand]

Ah I see, I'd love to have sand in my tank but it's probably a pain to clean, even my river rocks are a pain but I love it haha


Hi.

Not really bro, sand keeps waste from acummulate on the bottom of the tank and allows the inner filtre to catch it easier.


As you know turtles produce a lot of waste and as I told you all that waste is captured for the inner filter, then I replace the cartridge for a clean one and that's it....all the waste is taken out of the tank.


Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

I didn't think of it that way at all. Might have to revamp my tank again. Anychance I can get some pics f your tank setup?

[Armand]

I didn't think of it that way at all. Might have to revamp my tank again. Anychance I can get some pics f your tank setup?


As a matter of fact yes, though my turtle tank is kind of dull it just has some stones and sand, I am posting some pictures on weekend bro.

In the meantime I hope someone else posts some picts of his snappers, there are literally speaking, thousands of forist in MFK and I dont believe it is just us a handfull of forist the ones who keep this magnificent turtles.


What do you think? .

By the way, where did you get that leucistic snapper, I understand they are rare and if sold they are really expensive, so I suppose you are really lucky.

Tell us more about your Leucistic turtle, how much was it and where did you bought it?.

Could you try some snaps of him and post them?.



Cheers.

[Armand]

Dan:

Does Snappy belong to the subspicies Chelydra serpentina oceola?

I think she does...

[Superbuddha14]

I got him from the same breeder for my common alligator snapper. He hooked me up since I bought from him before and spread his name around. Unfortunately if the growth rate continue as is for my two snappers, I might have to sell my leucistic. I was hoping they'd grow at about the same rate so I have time to separate them later on but my common seem to have hit a growth spurt. He's almost triple the size of the leucistic and I fear he could take out the little guy if he wanted to when I'm not watching. I'll deffinately be taking more pics tommorrow to show you guys

[Dan Feller]

Dan:

Does Snappy belong to the subspicies Chelydra serpentina oceola?

I think she does...

I'm not sure. ou may be right, I was thinking the same thing a while back. I asked on the forum and most people thought she wasn't. I looked for the thread, but I've posted too dang many...

Does anybody know the defining differences?

[Superbuddha14]

Chelydya.org

[coura]

I dont think snappy is a florida :confused: The head color, her shell and neck all seem within the northen´s Chelidra serpentina serpentina caracteristics. Could be wrong...

[Armand]

I got him from the same breeder for my common alligator snapper. He hooked me up since I bought from him before and spread his name around. Unfortunately if the growth rate continue as is for my two snappers, I might have to sell my leucistic. I was hoping they'd grow at about the same rate so I have time to separate them later on but my common seem to have hit a growth spurt. He's almost triple the size of the leucistic and I fear he could take out the little guy if he wanted to when I'm not watching. I'll deffinately be taking more pics tommorrow to show you guys


Superbuddah: if i where you I would try for any possible means to keep them both but if given the case i see my self with no option but to sell one of them i would def, keep the leucistic. they are pretty rare and hard to find. on the other hand If you decide to sell the leucistic you have to sell it really really expènsive, I mean more than 1000 box...


Cheers.

[Armand]

Some more picts of my snappers, geee I love this turtles!!!!:headbang2
The gator:
http://s5.tinypic.com/2hn296q.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/35cn6up.jpg

The common and the gator snapper:

http://s5.tinypic.com/2jxvg0.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/2lkwpp5.jpg

http://s5.tinypic.com/98huon.jpg

Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

$1000 would be nice haha, but I'm not looking for an enormous profit. Probably $300, plus make sure it'd go to a good home

[Armand]

$1000 would be nice haha, but I'm not looking for an enormous profit. Probably $300, plus make sure it'd go to a good home


I am not kidding, take a look at this web site and see how much they ask for a Leucistic chelydra:

http://www.theturtlesource.com/turtle_inventory.asp?cat=333&id=100200377

So talking about a leucistic Macrochelys would be the same o even more....

Cheers.

[huy]

here pic of my fast ass turtle
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/huyhhhh1/DSC03758.jpg
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/huyhhhh1/DSC03759-1.jpg
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dont ask why he not bite me :P

[Armand]

Hi buddy, you are the first Vietnameese I talk to in my life, nice meeting you dude.:headbang2

That chelydra is really nice but calls my attention he/she doesnt try to bite you they are very agressive. I guess you got it accostumed to be on your hands since it was little though, anyway never get overconfident man one never knows.


Btw how come you got your hands on a chelydra?, are they legally sold in your country?, I mean your country counts on the proper weather conditions for the chelydra to thrieve in wild so if might be considered an invasive spicies for sure.

Tell us more about it if you don't mind.

Thanks for posting those pretty picts of your chely..:headbang2

Cheers.

[Superbuddha14]

Hey I'm Vietnamese haha.

[Superbuddha14]

well... i finally put up my leucistic up for sale in the b/s/t section. hopefully he'll go to a good home. i took your advice and posted for $1000 or best offer. we'll see what i get. as long as he gets a good home

[huy]

BTW he is tamed haha
i got this fat ass in china , and i have an alligator snapping turtle too here is the pic :)
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/huyhhhh1/DSC03062.jpg
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/huyhhhh1/DSC03061.jpg
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http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/huyhhhh1/DSC02929-1.jpg
this is my new tank i setup for them :)

[coura]

That´s a nice setup, however you should separate your macro and chelidra, your macro can already easily kill or mutilate your chelidra:nilly:Here in zoos they have them all mixed up and its not nice, most turts dont have even half of their tails:(

[gigas12]

Hi,yes I agree with coura,separate them.

[huy]

lol my common not in this tank u can look at the picture at the left hand there is an small tank,i just put him here when take the pic :D

[Superbuddha14]

By looking at your pic, anychance you have a caiman as well?

[huy]

nope caiman very expensive in vietnam lol .u need to order to get one and price can be 2500$ the baby one from brazil

[Superbuddha14]

ah that sucks, can get them for about $250 for a hatchling around here, depending on where you look

[Hap3niz]

awesome turtles, how big do they get???

[Armand]

Superbuddah:

You are vietnamese?, well how I was supposed to know bro it doesnt say in yor profile..

So I guess that makes huy the second one vietnamese I talk to in my life...:headbang2

By the way Huy I love your turts really nice, specially the gator snapper's shell is has a very nice pattern.


Cheers.

[Armand]

awesome turtles, how big do they get???


Hi.

It is known about gator snappers of more than 200 pounds and 30" of shell.

Talking about the chelydra serpetina, which is no other than the common snapper, could reach up to 24 of shell and weight nearly 100 pound speccially the mexican subspicies, the Chelydra Serpentina rosignioni that is the biggest and the meanest of the chelydra family.


Cheers.

[coura]

lol my common not in this tank u can look at the picture at the left hand there is an small tank,i just put him here when take the pic :D
Ok then;)

[coura]

Hi.

It is known about gator snappers of more than 200 pounds and 30" of shell.

Talking about the chelydra serpetina, which is no other than the common snapper, could reach up to 24 of shell and weight nearly 100 pound speccially the mexican subspicies, the Chelydra Serpentina rosignioni that is the biggest and the meanest of the chelydra family.


Cheers.
Yes sir;) However even north american forms can reach thouse sizes. These are really behemount turts:D Do you guys know about the "legent of bosco"?

[Armand]

Yes sir;) However even north american forms can reach thouse sizes. These are really behemount turts:D Do you guys know about the "legent of bosco"?

Hi.

How is that Bro?.

[bfhslilred93]

how is it so many of you have your snappers in with fish without a massacre?

[huy]

all of them ._.' it just a feeder for my gator

[coura]

Yes sir;) However even north american forms can reach thouse sizes. These are really behemount turts:D Do you guys know about the "legent of bosco"?

Hi.

How is that Bro?.
Here;) http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1782670

[Armand]

[quote=Armand;2938130;]
Here;) http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1782670


Coura.

I read the story but leads to no where, I mean turt was in fact never found, it is just a nice story to make people spot the little town that otherwise would be far from peoples attention...


.......And they succeded, I read about that nice little town called Churubusco. It is funny that in USA there is a twon called after a place in Mexico City. The mexican Churubusco is a place that I now quite well.


Cheers.

[Armand]

C'mon People don't let the thread go down, what's the matter with you all dudes?????

Where are your turtles??????

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popc orn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[ITHURTZ]

Just got it today, gf's mom found it at her house on the lake. Just set up a free 20gallon. No filter or anything yet. Im gonna work on my magnum 250 tmw and try to get er running. Ill be doing water changes alot until everything gets said and done. Been 7-8 years since I last kept one, 10 years since this small. Ill try and get some worms or something for him tmw.If I make it to the store after work.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/651/0417092142.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7600/0417092142a.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3893/0417092143.jpg

[Armand]

Very nice Ithurtz.

I am going to let you the updating of my setup:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2v98392.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/242c228.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/sfx6xg.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/25pu1xu.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/23keu8o.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/66ituc.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/f0ogsn.jpg

[ITHURTZ]

I hope this guy eats eventually, put 2 worms in and he didnt look at them. My last baby snapper ate in the blink of a eye. Any one think guppies or rosey reds would be to big atm for this little guy?

I put a little 5gallon filter in there for now. He likes to swim and float around at the time being. Swims, gets on the rocks, wait. Then swims again. I personally would like to fill the tank higher with more deco so he can get to the surface with ease, but I dont have the time to do that right now.

[ITHURTZ]

Went out and got 12 feeder guppies. Added a bigger filter and a heater.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZs0GjxRhqQ

Still hasnt touched the fish. 4 were by his head and he sat there, prob thinkin, am i supposed to eat this?

[Armand]

Look mate, you can give him feeders and small caryfish, but if you notice he is clumsy to catch them you can always feed him beffheart an chiken brest in the meantime he gets used to his new home and life feeders.


Cheers.

[coura]

Actualy life feeders are a very poor food item for snappers, they can carry parasites and desiase. ALL snappers must be fed just like any other turtle and daily if small. Turtle pellets like reptomin are good staples along side stuff like earthworms, shrimp,mosquito larvae, blood worms and fish fillet.
By the way Armand I hope that rock pile is well glued together and cemented, or it can fall apart and kill your turtles (they will displace rocks not glued easily) Even then I see there spaces between the rocks were your turtles can get cauth and drown. You must fullfill the spaces with smaller rocks.

[ITHURTZ]

Actualy life feeders are a very poor food item for snappers, they can carry parasites and desiase. ALL snappers must be fed just like any other turtle and daily if small. Turtle pellets like reptomin are good staples along side stuff like earthworms, shrimp,mosquito larvae, blood worms and fish fillet.
By the way Armand I hope that rock pile is well glued together and cemented, or it can fall apart and kill your turtles (they will displace rocks not glued easily) Even then I see there spaces between the rocks were your turtles can get cauth and drown. You must fullfill the spaces with smaller rocks.

worms, and blood worms also carry the same problems as feeder fish. Thus why you quarantine for 4 weeks. I dont have 4 weeks so I dumped 12 feeder guppies in. So far I now have 6 baby feeder guppies to. Keep at it and I wont have to buy anymore! Wish the sucker ate, dont know if he ate any over night.

[coura]

worms, and blood worms also carry the same problems as feeder fish. Thus why you quarantine for 4 weeks. I dont have 4 weeks so I dumped 12 feeder guppies in. So far I now have 6 baby feeder guppies to. Keep at it and I wont have to buy anymore! Wish the sucker ate, dont know if he ate any over night.
To my knowlege blood worms and earthworms brougth from pet shops frozen or alive and even colected yourself in non contaminated areas dont carry any hazzard to turtles, having been using them for 16 plus years and they are great foods, earthworms are high in calcium and both are high in protein and great to entice young turtles to eat (of corse big earthworms must be sliced and cleaned of mud for young turts). On the contrary COFF COFF...feeder fish specialy from pet stores and not raised by yourself harbor...were do you want me to start?;) Tuberculosis, helmints, copper from fish farms,... They are very poor food choices and francly you cant expect a baby comon snapper wich have not the morphologic modificacions alis have to be a acompliched fish cacher for peat sake:irked: He is ment to go out in betwen aquatic plant searching for tiny worms, crustaceans, insect larvae,etc, just like any other baby turtle and not caching fish, even for aligator snappers feeder fish alone is far from ideal. You have to feed it a varied carnivorus diet ment for baby turtles , if your waiting for it to cach fish he may well starve to death. He isnt ment to do that

[ITHURTZ]

Like I said I put pellets in to, just to get him to bite, he either eats or doesnt eat, his choice.

[Armand]

Thanks Coura I havent read your comments in this section.

The stones in my setup are safe however I will replace them, I will put less stones and include some bogwood in order to decrease the risk my turt gets cought and drown, actually i have thought about it before and I have asure for that not to heppen but I think the only way to be 100% safe is to modify the setup.

Regarding feeding, gator snappers are more difficult to feed they are very willing to catch their own food, at least mine acts like a natural borne hunter all the time and it is rare to see him eating pellets, hoever he eats squid fillet and chicken breast.

I was adviced to feed them life feeders because they contain certain nutrients that are foud in life fish and when food is frozen it looses their properties , so keeping a gator S on this diet (frozen) might lead it to an edema desease...


What's your input?.

[coura]

Like I said I put pellets in to, just to get him to bite, he either eats or doesnt eat, his choice.
Most baby turtles dont recognise pelets as food straigth away, they will need time and some training to do so, in the mean time he needs food into its belly, if you just go to the pet store and buy some frozen brine shrimp and blood worms I will garantee that unless there is something wrong with your turtle he will acept them, its the stuff small turtles recognise instinctively as food. By the way what are the temps your keeping him at? Do you have uv ligth? Snappers dont need generaly uv ligth to be healty but untill he starts to consistently eat stuff with both calcium and vit D3 in it like tetra reptomin, it will be good to provide it just to be shure, this small turtles can enter discalsificacion very easily and before we know it its too late

[coura]

Thanks Coura I havent read your comments in this section.

The stones in my setup are safe however I will replace them, I will put less stones and include some bogwood in order to decrease the risk my turt gets cought and drown, actually i have thought about it before and I have asure for that not to heppen but I think the only way to be 100% safe is to modify the setup.

Regarding feeding, gator snappers are more difficult to feed they are very willing to catch their own food, at least mine acts like a natural borne hunter all the time and it is rare to see him eating pellets, hoever he eats squid fillet and chicken breast.

I was adviced to feed them life feeders because they contain certain nutrients that are foud in life fish and when food is frozen it looses their properties , so keeping a gator S on this diet (frozen) might lead it to an edema desease...


What's your input?.
The true is that in the wild aligator snappers eat allot more stuff then fish including amazingly stuff like fallen fruit and haycorns, and animal foods from tiny crustaceans and insects in the early ages, to racoons, snakes and ducks later. My basic advice it would be for you to give the most varied diet possible. In general feeder fish straigth from pet shops are a poor choice, if your gonna use them quarentine them first and feed them heavily with vegetable based foods to increase their nutricional value. Dont use goldfish, insted use a prolific one like mosquito fish or guppys so that you can raise your own, and use only fish that your turtle can injest in one sitting to avoid he problems you already have descrived. It would be good if you had the pacience to get a pair of sizors to target fed your snapper with reptomin, he will get the idea soon and you wont have to do it again. Crayfish that you raised or colected is good as it is small crabs and shrimp (remove any claws or sharp points before feeding), snails, big earthworms, small fish for human consupsion (possibly you will have to wait untill your snapper is bigger), clams, beef, chicken, turkey, fillet, squid, monster fish pellets, mice and slugs will all be acepted. Can you get a good reptile suplement like zoomeds reptivite? You use peaces of meat to wrap it and to give it to your turtle. And yes woule fish its better but you have to make shure it is from a good sorce, its healty and it has been gutloaded:) This is of corse valid for aligator snappers;) Comons give less efase to fish and will eat straigh away small non moving foods, there is no need to use feeder fish with comons. And like you already gessed bog wood its a much better material then big rocks and much safer:D

[ITHURTZ]

i have both blood worms and brine shrimp, he shows no interest in food yet. I went on a more knowledgeable forum and came to the conclusion that he just finished absorbing his egg sack so he should be eating maybe by the weekend.

[Armand]

Hi.

Now my turt is OK:headbang2 I think he was just tryng to digest that heavy meal, now he is eating and behaving as usual.

I think I just overreact tho that unusual conduct in a Gator Sbapper, since I recently lost a common snapper I am a little scared.

Coura I am also feeding my snapper caryfish, chiken breast squid and fish fillet.

By the way, I just got another common snapper. Soon picts will be sut.


Cheers.:headbang2

[coura]

i have both blood worms and brine shrimp, he shows no interest in food yet. I went on a more knowledgeable forum and came to the conclusion that he just finished absorbing his egg sack so he should be eating maybe by the weekend.
Hum DUH:grinno: I didnt even know he was a newborn let alone that he was yet reabsorving its egg sack. Oh and you went on a more "knowlageable" forum humm...maybe you should stick by that one insted:screwy:

[coura]

Hi.

Now my turt is OK:headbang2 I think he was just tryng to digest that heavy meal, now he is eating and behaving as usual.

I think I just overreact tho that unusual conduct in a Gator Sbapper, since I recently lost a common snapper I am a little scared.

Coura I am also feeding my snapper caryfish, chiken breast squid and fish fillet.

By the way, I just got another common snapper. Soon picts will be sut.


Cheers.:headbang2
Your diet could use a litle more variety, try some small snails and worms please;)

[Armand]

Hi.

Some updating of my gator snapper and my new common snapper:

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