abit of clorine really lethal?

[fishkeeper25]

ok this is an important question and i wanna know who here puts diclorinator in there water to take off the clorine? i personally put it but it happens often that i forget and i never put it on my 33 gallon and never had a fish death what about u guys? dont forget im not talking bout 50% water changes im talking about 20 to 30 %.

[Thedaniokeeper]

Depends on your fish really.
My water comes out of the tap filled with all sorts of crap but my danios and pleco don't mind.

[fishkeeper25]

i have american cichilds and they dont seem to care either

[2004exrider]

Its not that the fish dont care or what kind you have, chlorine can/will burn the gils. If you cant remember put dechlor in again, its safer that way.

Jimmy

[BushFishRox]

it all depends on how much water you are changing. in smaller W/C's 20% give or take a little, the amount of chlorine in the new water is diluted so much by the tank water that it is not harmful to the fish. but in larger water changes you need to use dechlorinator because there isnt enough to dilute the chlorine to a non-harmful amount.

[cassharper]

You will most likely survive sticking your hand on the stove, but that doesn't make it a good idea. The stove can be on low or high, it will still burn.

Now try sticking your hand on the stove and not treating it for a few days, infections are nasty business.

[BushFishRox]

You will most likely survive sticking your hand on the stove, but that doesn't make it a good idea. The stove can be on low or high, it will still burn.

Now try sticking your hand on the stove and not treating it for a few days, infections are nasty business.

I dont really understand that comparison? talking about burning your self on a stove and comparing it with chemistry...

[packer43064]

I use Prime on all f my water changes. It's a must!

[CHOMPERS]

I dont really understand that comparison? talking about burning your self on a stove and comparing it with chemistry...
He's trying to put it into terms that you can relate to. Just because the chlorine doesn't kill your fish doesn't mean that it is not harming them.

Here's a different comparison that might make sense:
Stick your head in your fish tank and breath the same chlorine that you are making your fish breath, and see if it doesn't kill you. :grinno:

[Bastables]

I dont really understand that comparison? talking about burning your self on a stove and comparing it with chemistry...
Because chlorine causes chemical burns, in humans lungs airways ect. In fish it burns the gills

[Pyramid_Party]

Chlorine isnt as bad, chlorine gasses out after a about 2 days or so. Its chloramine thats worse. That doesnt gas out and it worse than chlorine.

[cichlid2006]

even if i only changed 1 bucket (20l) then i would still use dechlor in the replacement. pyramid party has it right, its chloramine that you have to neutralise these days and that wont dissipate after a day or two. luckily the companies that make dechlor have kept up and have produced dechlor to combat it.
its an important tool in keeping fish healthy, ie no good taking out the nasty tank water with nitrates at 40ppm and filled with whatever else just to dump new water in with worse, more dangerous chemicals in it. you may as well have left the old water in because it will be less dangerous to your fish.

[RD.]

Stating that a bit of chlorine isn't bad for a fish, is like saying that a bit of cigarette smoke isn't bad for your lungs.

Chlorine dissipates as it runs through the water mains, and depending on where you are situated from the source in your town/city, and how much water you remove at each water change, you 'might' be able to go without adding a water conditioner.

If you have chloramine in your local water supply there's really no getting around using a water treatment. Chloramine can retain it's full strength for several weeks. Chloramine isn't "worse" than chlorine, you simply have to deal with it in a slightly different manner.


Water sources & additives can fluctuate through the various seasons,and some areas may use chlorine during the Fall/Winter months, and chloramine during the Spring/Summer when the bacteria numbers rise. Keep this in mind when purchasing your water treatment.

[CHOMPERS]

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[wow_it_esploded]

It all depends on how much chlorine you have in your tap.

[BushFishRox]

now I have a rebuttal question. I know a lot of people change water the same as me and that is adding the prime to the tank and then start refilling with the python. My fish like to hang out in the area where the fresh water is coming in. Is that not harmful for their health or does prime work that fast?

[RD.]

Prime works fast, but in an aquarium setting I do not believe that it is instantaneous. In my situation I have chloramine treated tap water, and I add water conditioner in small amounts throughout the course of the tank being refilled. Personally I prefer to not take unnecessary chances with the well being of my fish. Even at very small dosage rates, chlorine is harmful to most/all aquatic life forms, some being more sensitive than others. Even as low as 0.05 PPM can be toxic to certain aquatic species.

[Ullopincrate]

I use the Python system and dechlor as I go on most tanks. But if I am messing with my discus I put the water in a trash can, treat it, make sure temp is ok then pump it into tank with a powerhead and a tube. Bottom line......why tank chances with your little buddies?

[Bastables]

Remember that the first chemical weapons used to kill in World war one (1915 German Ypres offensive) were chlorine based gases. This stuff is used in our drinking water because it kills all the nasties and the good bacteria, (In high enough quantities people and fish too) it is not an inert substance.

Like an oven it burns stuff.

[Pharaoh]

Just use dechlor or get a filter that will remove it. No since in risking the health of your fish.

[Fossilis]

Chlorine isnt as bad, chlorine gasses out after a about 2 days or so. Its chloramine thats worse. That doesnt gas out and it worse than chlorine.


First off I always dechlor BUT my buddy on the other hand:jaw: His water changes used to consist of dumping straight tap water in after a couple inches of evaporation in a 30. Now he has a 55 with a lid so I cant wait to see how long if at all before they start dying off. He cleans the gravel and the filter maybe three times a year and you should see the amount of food he throws in:screwy: He tells me I'M:screwy: for all the stuff I do to my tank and thats why I have problems here and there. You go over there and his fish look just as good if not better than the ones at the lfs. It just boggles my mind.

[Yanbbrox]

I know a few people subscribed to the don't use anything approach., Personally as my tanks have grown, I've switched habits, instead of using more expensive products, now I use the pond equivalent, instead of 3 weeks you get about 18 months with the same money. I've not had any problems in the last 3 years since I switched over.

[RD.]

FYI - many pond formulas are the exact same formula as the regular products sold for aquarium use.


The reason that it will sometimes state a different dosage rate on the bottle of pond formulas is due to the fact that a pond is an open system, whereas aquariums are closed systems. This is precisely why Seachem states; "May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume."
In a pond application the dechlorination process can be much more forgiving than in an aquarium.

Seachem Prime is a perfect example of both products being the exact same formula.

[tcarswell]

He's trying to put it into terms that you can relate to. Just because the chlorine doesn't kill your fish doesn't mean that it is not harming them.

Here's a different comparison that might make sense:
Stick your head in your fish tank and breath the same chlorine that you are making your fish breath, and see if it doesn't kill you. :grinno:
Chompers to the rescue. :headbang2

[Mike fail]

it depends do you have chlorine in your water to begin with?