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M|L
06-21-2005, 4:58 PM
My original idea was to built a wet-dry filter. However, the end result was something different.

This is not nearly as expensive, time consuming and big as my first DIY filter project, but this works very effectively with smaller to medium sized tanks.

The idea is simple, siphon water down to the sump, through the filter media, and back to the tank via a water pump. If setup correctly, it would work just as well as any commercial filter (whether it be power filter, canister filter, or sponge filter) at a fraction of the price.

Materials needed:



sump tank
overflow
filter media (sponges, carbon, ceramic rings, filter pads, etc)
water pump
vinyl tubes
pvc pipe (elbow, T-connector)
The sump you use can be any size you want (however, it can't be too small). In my case, I used a 2.5 gallon sump for my 20 gallon tank (I know, it's a little too small). Sump can be divided into different compartments for different usages. The sump has to be located below the tank in order for the siphon action to work.

You will need an overflow, the overflow is what siphons the water from the main tank down to the sump (same concept as a gravel vacuum). Now traditionally, you should purchase the overflow (also called Pre-Filter) that is already made. However, in the interest of saving money (Pre-Filters run anywhere from $50 to hundreds of dollars each depending on the Gallon Per Hour rate) I made my own. You can copy the design and built one yourself easily using small acylic sheets (you can also use plexi-glass) but you will need acrylic cement, which is not available to me, so I didn't have the time to order it online, so I simply designed a "ghetto" overflow consisting of vinyl tubes. One thing you have to keep in mind is that you need to know the Gallon Per Hour (GPH) of your overflow, which needs to closely match the GPH of your pump

Filter medias should include what I've listed above, but depending on the size of your sump, you can add just about anything you want in there with very little modification. Usually the water first passes through the sponge, as it traps large debris, then the water can pass through the filter pads which further traps smaller debris, then the water flows through the chemical medias such as carbon and ammonia chips, and lastly, you can add biological media, such as the ceramic ring at the end, right before the water reaches the pump. I also keep my heater in my sump.

The water pump is the workhorse behind this filter system (also the most expensive). After the water has drained into the sump and passed through the media, the pump will do the job of delievering the water back into the tank. However, the GPH of your pump needs to match that of your overflow. It doesn't have to be exact, however, as you can easily attach a valve to adjust the water flow. Keep in mind that the higher your pump has to pump to send the water back to the main tank, the higher the head pressure, which means the GPH of your pump decreases.

This whole system requires the basic knowledge of plumbing and some basic materials. For larger systems, you need more material and more knowledge. In my case, I only needed an elbow and a T-connector. Unfortunately I couldn't find an elbow that is small enough to fit the vinyl tubes.

Here are some pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/mingbinli/sump.jpg
Please excuse the mess, the sump was way too small for further modification, so I'm stuck with it. Noticed the "overflow" is just a bunch of vinyl tubes.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/mingbinli/return.jpg
The water is returned to the tank via the T-Connector, attached with small vinyl tubes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/mingbinli/current.jpg
The pump (I used a big powerhead) is very strong, almost too strong for my 20 gallon tank.

M|L
06-21-2005, 5:01 PM
Please remember that the actual project I've done is very crappy and should not be duplicated. You should use a better overflow design to avoid flooding your floor incase of power outtage and better sump configuration.

This is only meant to filter tanks anywhere from 20 to 75 gallons.

rayman45
06-21-2005, 5:09 PM
lol such a small tank lol

M|L
06-21-2005, 5:23 PM
yes, VERY small.... but not many people are as hard(0re as I, making a DIY for my 20 gallon tank. :)

rayman45
06-21-2005, 5:55 PM
u still use it?
i wanna try it

rayman45
06-21-2005, 5:56 PM
o yea if you do
can u get shots of how u have the (carbon etc) is setup

M|L
06-21-2005, 9:09 PM
I can only get sideshots because it's right behind the tank, so I can't get a pic of the carbon.

I can make a diagram or illustrate a layout for you, when I have the time.

redtailfool
06-21-2005, 9:12 PM
Why dont u do the sterilite (or rubbermaid ) wet dry?

neoprodigy
06-21-2005, 9:12 PM
I love DIY project!!!! :headbang2 I love Ghetto DIY projects :headbang2 :headbang2

redtailfool
06-21-2005, 9:13 PM
I love DIY project!!!! :headbang2 I love Ghetto DIY projects :headbang2 :headbang2


I love DIY but it doesnt have to be Ghetto. LOL...

M|L
06-21-2005, 9:34 PM
Why dont u do the sterilite (or rubbermaid ) wet dry?

It wasn't possible because the only place I could use to place the sump is right behind my 20g. Which has about 10" of clearance space, so I can't fit anything bigger than a 2.5 gallon (I could've pulled it off with a 5.5 gallon but I threw mine out 3 months ago). With a merely 8" high sump, the concept of "wet-dry" wouldn't have been possible (especially not when the sump is behind, not under, the main tank).

redtailfool
06-21-2005, 10:17 PM
It wasn't possible because the only place I could use to place the sump is right behind my 20g. Which has about 10" of clearance space, so I can't fit anything bigger than a 2.5 gallon (I could've pulled it off with a 5.5 gallon but I threw mine out 3 months ago). With a merely 8" high sump, the concept of "wet-dry" wouldn't have been possible (especially not when the sump is behind, not under, the main tank).


Got it. throw in bags of ceramic rings into the sump if you need
extra bio filtration .

Loubard
06-22-2005, 6:14 AM
You have got to get some tube klamps dude, if your filter is somewhat longer standing your tubes get old and then there is the possibility that the get lose. Then you will have all the water on the floor.! Just warning, happend to me once!! :swear:

buddah101
06-22-2005, 8:07 AM
does look ghetto though..LOL I like it.

M|L
06-22-2005, 11:31 AM
You have got to get some tube klamps dude, if your filter is somewhat longer standing your tubes get old and then there is the possibility that the get lose. Then you will have all the water on the floor.! Just warning, happend to me once!! :swear:

Yes, I will make changes when I have time.

Again, I don't advise anyone to exactly duplicate my filter. :headshake

rayman45
06-22-2005, 12:58 PM
getto
waiting on that diagram

neoprodigy
06-22-2005, 1:07 PM
that is not as ghetto as mine.. LOL

M|L
06-22-2005, 1:58 PM
http://neoprodigy.com/phatboy/diagram.gif

Here it is.

rayman45
06-22-2005, 3:02 PM
might try it :D

bluedempsey
06-23-2005, 8:12 PM
pretty cool