Blue Arowana

[Jbol]

LFS has a Blue Arowana for $300.00. Kind of looks like a Black Aro but when it's under the lights you can see the blue in him kind of cool. Alot of money but if I didn't have my Jardini I would have to think about it. Anybody know anything about them? Are they hard to come by?

BTW I love my Jar truely a beautiful fish. :D

[Mourinho18]

blue aro is another name for black aro. 300 is a bit extreme however for a black aro. I wouldn't pay that much for one

[yuppa]

Yeah no such thing as blue aro..

How big it?

I agree with previous post.. Definately black aro

[rottbo]

actually there is a subspecies of black known as blue but i doubt it is one since they only come from one geographic location and they are illegal to exprt from there

[DiXoN]

the so caled blue aros are just black aros that are not from brazil i think it may be columbia.
normal blacks do get some blue in them but these so called blues do tend to have a lot more blue on the fins.
it may not last in the aquarium though as it is probably down to the native water.
they are also not worth the extra money its a bit of a con imo selling for 3 times the cost

[Mourinho18]

offer him $150 straight and tell him he's lucky to get that

[rottbo]

ok think i am wrong but i am not and i am not going to get into a huge debate about this was just trying to tell the truth and most "blues" that you see for sale are not the true blues just blacks they do exist but only in their native waters i am done with this thread and for a good size black $300 is not to bad of a price

[Jbol]

Well I mostly see the blue on the scales and it's in his eyes too, a little bit in the fins, but it wouldn't surprise me this lfs always has been high with their prices.

[Mourinho18]

i hope nobody here would be willing to pay 300 dollars for a black aro unless it were absolutely monster

[Honda12]

Yeah it is probably just a regular black. Not really worth that much IMO.

[Arofanatic]

Blues are blacks with a higher price tag- don't get sucked in

[Jbol]

Yeah no such thing as blue aro..

How big it?

I agree with previous post.. Definately black aro

I would say it's close to a foot long.

It does look like a black just with a blue tint to him.

[Mourinho18]

Blues are blacks with a higher price tag- don't get sucked in

this man knows whats up.

like i said guy. Offer him $150 or so because that's relatively market value for a black aro, and if he says no, just laugh in his face because nobody is gonna give him 300 for it

[Jbol]

this man knows whats up.

like i said guy. Offer him $150 or so because that's relatively market value for a black aro, and if he says no, just laugh in his face because nobody is gonna give him 300 for it

They've had it for a little over a month now and no takers yet. I'm not going to offer them anything I would have no space for it already have a Jar in a 125 gal that is about a foot long that I'll need to get a bigger tank for and I'm planing on getting a 240 or bigger not sure yet. :headbang2

[rallysman]

ok think i am wrong but i am not and i am not going to get into a huge debate about this was just trying to tell the truth and most "blues" that you see for sale are not the true blues just blacks they do exist but only in their native waters i am done with this thread and for a good size black $300 is not to bad of a price

That literally took me 2 minutes to read and understand what you were saying. :ROFL:

[ROSS]

$300 :grinno: :screwy: hope your water quality is excellent to gamble like that...

[feizhai]

always better to think about it calmly and away from the LFS...

[xrtg]

hey, 300 bucks for a black is insanely expensive. :) but what the hack if you love it at first sight then get it. :)

how big is that fella by the way?

[sam_cj]

yeah i also believe that's a regular black arowana while $300 price tag is too much.

[KurseD]

there are blue ASIAN aro's, malayan aros are mainly blue, and are sold in japan as blue aros. never seen a blue silver type though.

[fishnthings]

there is a TRUE BLUE arowana, no matter what you guys say, rottbo is right :clap .......i will get info and post in a lil bit

[ROSS]

$$$$$$ 300 for a fish !!!... dude it have to be like ex: asian type red / x-back / RTG..

ya dig fella... offer him $200 wave it in his face mabe you'll get a deal...

[fishnthings]

hahahahah.... 300 for a asian... keep dreaming man

[ROSS]

yeah I know they cost much more... suck's ...

[rottbo]

there is a TRUE BLUE arowana, no matter what you guys say, rottbo is right :clap .......i will get info and post in a lil bit
:headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2
i have been keeping and researching aros for years i wouldnt say something that i didnt know was true i will try and find the source again for you guys that are not believers and the blue asians are my favorite heres a good pic showing the blue base xback asian

[DrBranDo]

if u have the money buy i now since you can enjoy the blue.
mostly it will fade away and go black when grow big i think
anyone experience the black aro here???

[KurseD]

i have pics of lots of different kinds of blue aros (malayan species) but i can't get the attach files tab to work. you can view some on my post "aro lovers, check this out" but the flash ruined most of the blue aro section. i'll try to post the close ups of the blues when i can figure out how the attach files work for the new version of the site.

[fishnthings]

very nice rottbo... i thought you were done with this thread;):ROFL:

[Pangong_ilong]

It's true. THere are blue based asian aros nad i read in one article that there's also a fusion. And the fusion color looks good.

[rottbo]

i was but i decided i would jump back in since people are starting to realize that i was right

[xrtg]

an asian aroa @ 300 bucks is highly unlikely. :)

btw anyone has any blue aro pictures?

[skinless]

ive seen a huge true blue asian aro ($$$$$) here.
ive also seen a small "blue" SA silver for $400. heh..someone bought it. way to research.

[rottbo]

i was originally talking about SA blue aros and just threw the pic of the asian in because i like it there really are BLUE SA AROS

[DiXoN]

i was originally talking about SA blue aros and just threw the pic of the asian in because i like it there really are BLUE SA AROS


so what is the latin name for these blue arowana from south america

[jason34]

actually there is a subspecies of black known as blue but i doubt it is one since they only come from one geographic location and they are illegal to exprt from there
your rite rottbo in what you say,there is a subspecies and thay are hard to come across,our lfs(whalfs)had 2 in and thay was 5 in the country at the time,both was about 7inch and costin£179.
and iv gotta say thay was lovely.

[PufferXtreme]

I've heard of it before and PFK have articled it. Probably not a species in it's own right but read this before jumping on him.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/show_article.php?article_id=181

[Vince]

I've heard of it before and PFK have articled it. Probably not a species in it's own right but read this before jumping on him.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/show_article.php?article_id=181
That fish in the article is a juvenile black aro...I will bet all my fish tanks that that fish was born black with a yellow stripe going across the body. I've kept a baby black aro a long time ago, and watch it grow to have the similar coloration as the fish in the picture. They all grow to be "a wanna be" silver aro. Call it what you want, but Osteoglossum Ferrerei is a black aro...that turns silver color full grown with a slight black/blue hue on the edge of the body fins..

[rumblesushi]

like vince said it's a black aro, and an actual quote from the article...

" It certainly seems unlikely that it is a distinct species as some in the UK trade have been claiming."

Which is what everyone has been saying.

Blue aro = black aro.

There is no blue osteoglossum.

[awesum]

$$$$$$ 300 for a fish !!!... dude it have to be like ex: asian type red / x-back / RTG..

ya dig fella... offer him $200 wave it in his face mabe you'll get a deal...

if you can get an asian aro (red/x-back/rtg) for 300.00 in the U.S., then that is like the deal of the century. for a red/x-back/rtg you are more looking at $900-$2,000.00. $300.00 will get you a asian green aro, sometimes $150.00.

$300.00 is pretty pricey for a south american aro. I bought my black for $9.99 when it was a fry. I actually saw a black aro not as good looking as mine at an lfs for $300.00. Now i wish I would've bought 10 baby blacks and sold them when they are bigger.

[redtailfool]

Just to recap : Asian Aros - Lots of color varients. Some with blue hues.
S.American Aro - Silver and Black - No Blues. Black IS Blue.


If the black aro is about 12 inches -14 200-250 can be fair at retail prices. If you can get
a black aro, get them as they are harder to come by every year .

[rottbo]

ok like i said it is not a species in itself just a geograpic morph of the black i guess all you guys can think that i am dumb but there is a small population of "black" aros that have a much more defined blue color to them... these fish are now illegal to export from their native waters because of the high demand for them they are not a species they are a morph aro i dont know how many times i have to try to explain myself but maybe you guys should realize that you dont know everything and neither do i but i only argue the points that i know to be true:swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: pricks:ROFL: :ROFL:

[rallysman]

I'm not sure what you are arguing then...................
If I have a goldfish that is more gold than orange will it be worth more too?

[DiXoN]

the so called blue aros are just black aros that are not from brazil i think it may be columbia.
normal blacks do get some blue in them but these so called blues do tend to have a lot more blue on the fins.
it may not last in the aquarium though as it is probably down to the native water.
they are also not worth the extra money its a bit of a con imo selling for 3 times the cost


these blue aros that were imported from columbia are and shown in the PFK link were recently found when collectors were allowed back into an old fish collecting area after the problems with that area calmed down.
brazil stopped blacks from being exported and columbia dont and this is one of the reasons for the influx of these blue arowana.
i stated this on the first page and it is probably down to the water they live in that they get more blue but they are still a black arowana plain and simple.
sorry for quoting myselfit needed doing

[rottbo]

no i am just arguing that there is actuall a black aro that is considered a "blue" and because its geographic isolation it is different in coloration like i said its not its own species but a sub of the blacks

[DiXoN]

also stating pricks does not help you win an argument.
yopu can edit it yourself if you like

[rottbo]

also stating pricks does not help you win an argument.
yopu can edit it yourself if you like
i know but didnt you notice the ":ROFL: :ROFL: " afterwards i was joking about the "pricks" part sorry if it didnt come across that way... i thought it was kinda funny

[finsandfangs]

a lfs has a large (around 20" long, 4 to 5 " up and down) "blue arrowana"( no drop eye!) it actually looks blue outlining the scales and the fins. i asked the owner about it and he said when black arrows get large they turn blue. it is not listed for sale but he said he would sell it for 250 to me.

[rallysman]

a lfs has a large (around 20" long, 4 to 5 " up and down) "blue arrowana"( no drop eye!) it actually looks blue outlining the scales and the fins. i asked the owner about it and he said when black arrows get large they turn blue. it is not listed for sale but he said he would sell it for 250 to me.
at that size if it still has good blue color that black would be worth getting:D

[meiling]

I've seen them for $$120 in a pet store here.

[fishnthings]

i can get large blacks for 125:D

[rallysman]

i can get large blacks for 125:D
how large?

[T1KARMANN]

their is no such thing as a blue aro they are just black aros the whosalers have grown on a bit to get a highr price

if their is such a thing as a blue aro then show me one with a yolk sack and then the truth will be out its a black

dont get conned the blue black rip off has gone on long enought

[shoefreak03]

i thought blk arrowana were illegal to export they the exporter found a way around it by labeling them as blue arrowana.

LFS near me sell thems for $300 also, i just rolled my eyes at them when he told me and walked off. :screwy:

once full grown, they will look very similar to the silver arrowana except no drop eye which is common among silvers.

[rottbo]

you gusy should read the whole thread i am not saying that there is a species known as the blue aro but there is a population of blacks in a certain geographic location that are alot more blue in coloration and these ones are known as the blue aros

[T1KARMANN]

you gusy should read the whole thread i am not saying that there is a species known as the blue aro but there is a population of blacks in a certain geographic location that are alot more blue in coloration and these ones are known as the blue aros

or the black aros are moved to a diffrent location before shipping to avoid the ban

blue black they are the same i kept a black aro for 7yrs in a 6x2x2ft (to small i know ) but i saw all the stages of its life and yes at some stages it did have blue fins but it was still a black it will all depend on the water conditions its kept in

its just one big rip off

hears my black

[rottbo]

ok like i said its just a population in a certain area that started the whole blue aro thing i am tired of arguing this point.... yes they are black aros but there are some black aros known as blue but most blues are not the true blues that come from only one area

[rottbo]

by the way nice aro

[flyingsaucer owner]

Blues are imported from Colombia, the blacks used to always come out of Brazil but there have not been many in recent years. The blues are geographic variant of the black arow O. ferreirai & the Colombians have decided to call them blues which makes more sense as they do have a blue hue
IME the Colombians retain the blue more as they mature :grinyes:

[rottbo]

finally some one who knows whats up

than you for backing me up

and by the way they are now illegal to export from there

[flyingsaucer owner]

or the black aros are moved to a diffrent location before shipping to avoid the ban

blue black they are the same i kept a black aro for 7yrs in a 6x2x2ft (to small i know ) but i saw all the stages of its life and yes at some stages it did have blue fins but it was still a black it will all depend on the water conditions its kept in

its just one big rip off

hears my black

Nice black Rich, looks like an old photo. Is that u chillin out on the sofa in front of the tank? ;)

[rottbo]

Is that u chillin out on the sofa in front of the tank? ;)
haha:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: ;)

[DiXoN]

Blues are imported from Colombia, the blacks used to always come out of Brazil but there have not been many in recent years. The blues are geographic variant of the black arow O. ferreirai & the Colombians have decided to call them blues which makes more sense as they do have a blue hue
IME the Colombians retain the blue more as they mature :grinyes:


this is what i have been advising all along and i think dave had one of these blacks from columbia

[flyingsaucer owner]

I've got 2 of em Dixon, one around 22" & one about 15" :)

[HugeGhost]

I am interested in the Arowana how far are you from Encinitas! keep in touch Howie

[T1KARMANN]

thats ia a very old pic which i had to scan from a photo and no its not me its one of my kids

my point is i have kept black aros at all stages of their life and even black aros go throw the blue stage of life

it just seams strange that this so called blue aro was never found before until the ban was put on brazilian black aros so whats saying they just move them and export them from columbia which would kick up the price

and why dont we ever see small blue aros is it because they would be in the same penguin black and white clolors as a black baby aro

even black aros go through the blue fin stage

people who are paying silly money for the so called blue aro are just trying to justify the money they paid for them buy saying its a blue variant

just face it they are the same fish

[flyingsaucer owner]

I paid £90 for mine :)

[T1KARMANN]

I paid £90 for mine :)

thats a good price black aro money still you know its a black aro anyway

[Vince]

I remember those back in the 80's costing only $2.99 with the yolk sac...and around 10 to 20 for the larger juveniles...but i prefer the silver because the silver has nicer pattern than the black. the blacks looks nice while babies though...black wth a light yellow line across..then turns silver...

[flyingsaucer owner]

thats a good price black aro money still you know its a black aro anyway
Don't u mean I know its geographic variant of the black arow :grinyes: ;)

[T1KARMANN]

Don't u mean I know its geographic variant of the black arow :grinyes: ;)

Well you may know your rays mate but i know my aros very well and if thats what you want to belive then belive it

but i just seams to me its only people who have brought their black aro which was labeled as a blue that try to justify the price they have been ripped off with

i have seen a aro labeled as blue and one labeled black and their is NO diffrence at all when you put the 2 fish side buy side

if you do a search for the blue aro on the net the only thing you will find is the mistake that PFK done on the artical they done since that artical i have contacted Matt clark who will now admit openly thats their is no diffrence

[flyingsaucer owner]

Well you may know your rays mate but i know my aros very well and if thats what you want to belive then belive it

but i just seams to me its only people who have brought their black aro which was labeled as a blue that try to justify the price they have been ripped off with

i have seen a aro labeled as blue and one labeled black and their is NO diffrence at all when you put the 2 fish side buy side

if you do a search for the blue aro on the net the only thing you will find is the mistake that PFK done on the artical they done since that artical i have contacted Matt clark who will now admit openly thats their is no diffrence

Your missing the point Rich, yes they are black arows but ones that exhibit more blue colouration as they mature than regular blacks.
The two I own were from the upper Orinoco around the same area that the true flower rays are caught.
I don't profess to knowing much about arows but I do know where the two I own were exported from & that largest is still showing more blue than that of any regular black arow I've seen.
Up to a few years ago I believe that the only river where blacks were exported from was the Rio Negro system, these are the common blacks :)

[gunnwong]

anypic fo goolden aro