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ArowanaLover69
06-23-2005, 6:51 AM
Legalizing Asian Arowana Petition<<<<===click here (http://www.petitiononline.com/AsianAro/petition.html)

We need all the support we can get!!!-

buddah101
06-23-2005, 7:42 AM
awesome! SIGN THIS!

ezman
06-23-2005, 9:26 AM
Yes!!! i have already done my part :headbang2

CDM
06-23-2005, 10:02 AM
Yes!!! i have already done my part :headbang2

Yo BRO, you are Singaporean, is that count...... :headbang2

rayman45
06-23-2005, 10:11 AM
im in

The TRUST
06-23-2005, 11:36 AM
Might be a trap!!!!!!!!!!

rayman45
06-23-2005, 11:40 AM
i dont care
i dont have anymore asian aro

The TRUST
06-23-2005, 11:44 AM
U had one????????i dont care
i dont have anymore asian aro

rayman45
06-23-2005, 11:46 AM
2 greens
and a small yellow tail

1 green got like 14" and i sold it
then i got another green - sold it at 7"

then i tried a yt sold a 5"

i wanna go all out and get a nice one but not allowed to have them

redtailfool
06-23-2005, 1:18 PM
I dont know. I highly even doubt that the petition would mean anything.
But if this paves the way for more action for the legalization of asian aros
hell im in the bandwagon ! :)

The TRUST
06-23-2005, 1:30 PM
I am all for legalizing CAPTIVE BRED Asian Arowanas from CITES registered Farms, but I wish that the famrs would release some back to the wild though :(

redtailfool
06-23-2005, 1:57 PM
I am all for legalizing CAPTIVE BRED Asian Arowanas from CITES registered Farms, but I wish that the famrs would release some back to the wild though :(


The governments that have jurisdiction of the rivers where scleropages formosus
are endemic and the farms where they are raised ( indonesia, malaysia and singapore ) should have the political will to "encourage" the farms to release
captive bred aros into the wild . The asian aro farms will never release their precious
stock without government intervention.


David- 95% of all aros sold are bred commercially so i guess asian aros are an exemption ? I believe its the destruction of their habitat that really made them endangered.

bluedempsey
06-23-2005, 2:28 PM
#211 did my part!!

WckedMidas
06-23-2005, 2:47 PM
213

flagtail
06-23-2005, 5:23 PM
"I wish that the famrs would release some back to the wild though "

Where do you think all the Aros that people don't want anymore end up????? :hitting: :hitting: :hitting:

The TRUST
06-23-2005, 5:27 PM
"I wish that the famrs would release some back to the wild though "

Where do you think all the Aros that people don't want anymore end up?????

Not just anywhere dummy. I meant release some asian arows back into their native habitat to help boost the wild populations. and the key words are ASIAN AROWS not silvers. Not amny people are rich enough to release their asian arows.

ezman
06-23-2005, 6:00 PM
Yo BRO, you are Singaporean, is that count...... :headbang2

Hey bro, i hope i can help.... :)

Jesto
06-23-2005, 8:29 PM
Good luck with this petition. I hope it succeeds :)

xrtg
06-24-2005, 3:08 AM
I feel that the only way to get the asian arowanas is to help boost the numbers in the wild.

Get them out of CITES listing and asian arowanas will be available for sale in the US.

buddah101
06-24-2005, 10:23 AM
I put this petition up on another board and they deleted it! must be something going on with it!

M|L
06-24-2005, 11:08 PM
I signed twice with my 2 email addresses. lol

BUMP!

NIKE
06-25-2005, 11:17 PM
siigned up. :)

kenichi600
07-06-2005, 7:12 AM
I'm in too!!! can't wait to get a Xback... haha like i could affor one =P

Loubard
07-06-2005, 8:06 AM
I'm in, I live in Holland :)

But I feel like you will handle the animals good, but hope they don't gettin' released by some stupid ass fools!

aquaman4fish
07-19-2005, 12:52 PM
Keep signing my fellow A Arowana lovers!

beblondie
07-19-2005, 6:33 PM
i thought I'd add this here since its relevant
John Field, Fisheries Specialist
Division of Scientific Authority
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
4401 North Fairfax Drive, Room 750
Arlington, VA 22203
USA

Thank you for your email concerning the importation and potential
downlisting of Asian bonytongue, Scleropages formosus under the Endangered
Species Act (ESA). I have reviewed your email carefully, and would like to
share the perspective of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) on this
issue of international importance.

The species was listed as endangered in 1976 under the U.S. Endangered
Species Act. Endangered foreign species, such as S. formosus, cannot be
imported to the United States for primarily commercial purposes even if
they are captive-bred. Importation for personal or hobby use would be
considered commercial activity. Furthermore, any importation of an
endangered species, captive-bred or not, must enhance the status of the
species in the wild in some direct way. In the past, the USFWS has
approved the import of small numbers of bonytongue for research and
captive-breeding purposes. The applicants in these cases are involved in
research or re-introduction programs that should help bolster wild
populations of the fish. Importation of farm-raised and selectively bred
bonytongue does not, in our view, enhance the wild populations directly.
While captive-bred populations of S. formosus may be abundant in Southeast
Asia, their use does not necessarily encourage the conservation of wild
populations and may result in unsustainable harvest for breeding stock.
These fears have been echoed by Indonesian scientists who I've consulted
while visiting the country and examining arowana farms.

It's important to note that these provisions of the ESA apply regardless of
the status of the species in the Convention on International Trade in
Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES), but that body has
recently concurred with an Indonesian report that the species remains
endangered throughout its range. There are no current or planned research
initiatives known from any range country (Malaysia, Myanmar, Cambodia,
Laos, Vietnam, and Indonesia) to study the conservation status of wild S.
formosus. Thus, there is no known scientific basis for downlisting from
threatened to endangered under the ESA in any part of the species' range.
Until data are presented to the USFWS or gathered, it appears that
downlisting is not warranted.

If we can obtain information that indicates that wild Asian arowanas are no
longer in danger of extinction, the USFWS will prioritize the species for
downlisting to threatened status. I am developing research initiatives to
gather this information. If the species is in fact downlisted to
threatened status, U.S. hobbyists could import captive-bred specimens with
the appropriate ESA and CITES permits. If you would like to learn more
about the Endangered Species Act, please visit our website at
http://endangered.fws.gov/. If you would like to learn more about the
USFWS, foreign species, and CITES, visit our website at
http://international.fws.gov/

Thank you for your interest in and committment to the conservation of Asian
bonytongue. I look forward to working with dedicated members of the public
such as yourself as we continue our investigations of this species'
recovery in the wild.

John Field, Fisheries Specialist
Division of Scientific Authority
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
4401 North Fairfax Drive, Room 750
Arlington, VA 22203
USA


And further
They are CITES protected but that is not what makes them illegal here, they are listed by the U.S. Endangered Species Act and this is what makes them illegal. Many things that are available here are CITES protected including but not limited to Zebra Plecos, Arapaima, etc.

CITES paperwork is generally easy to get for most animals providing the steps are all correctly followed, it usually takes 2 weeks or so and requires a permit fee be paid.

Legally owning an Asian Aro in this country requires that it was placed into your care by an organization like a zoo that could no longer care for it, you must be able to prove ownership back to the zoo......even if you are the 3rd person that has owned it since the zoo released it

rayman45
07-19-2005, 7:08 PM
there dicks

koji and rocky
start reserching

nick
07-19-2005, 7:59 PM
no reason for these fish to be illegal, by being illegal they are wanted and more felonies are commited, save everyone the paperwork and legalize asian arrowana (THERE GORGEOUS

^my comment

please eveyrone sign this i need yellowtails/greens lol

rybapsych
07-26-2005, 8:01 PM
Signed off.

crazystereo
07-26-2005, 11:12 PM
I thought some of these aro's that ppl are after, like super reds, etc.. where just genetic anomolies, like gold gars or true albino's. If it a type of deformity or defect, why would it be considered an endagered 'species'? I may be wrong (more like probobly wrong), but, obviously, I don't know.

jelkel
07-27-2005, 1:32 AM
I'm in.
Isn't it wierd that it's treated this way. Many hobbyist
are the reason so many breeds are around today. Even if
only in captivity, at least their around. :screwy:

RockyGoldy
07-27-2005, 4:59 AM
I thought some of these aro's that ppl are after, like super reds, etc.. where just genetic anomolies, like gold gars or true albino's. If it a type of deformity or defect, why would it be considered an endagered 'species'? I may be wrong (more like probobly wrong), but, obviously, I don't know.

Dude...Super red aro is a breed by itself..Generally, theres just 3 main class of asian arowana types:

Red Aro

Gold Aro

Green Aro

Those names that you hear (super reds, violet fusion reds etc etc) are just branding of the arowanas...they give the fishes fanciful names so that people can differenciate which farm that particular aro is harvested from.

hope this is clear :)

neoprodigy
07-27-2005, 8:44 AM
if i have an aro farm in SGP i will call my top red "Neo Red" LOL

RockyGoldy
07-27-2005, 9:27 PM
if i have an aro farm in SGP i will call my top red "Neo Red" LOL

That will happen only after u see 'Rocky mania RED' in the market first...hahaha...

:hitting:

Ash
07-27-2005, 10:40 PM
yay!! They need to not be illegal its annoying. Florida is trying to ban Silver aro's now. How evil!!

RockyGoldy
07-27-2005, 10:43 PM
yay!! They need to not be illegal its annoying. Florida is trying to ban Silver aro's now. How evil!!

Sheese...US have this thing against arowanas yeah?? :screwy:

nick
07-27-2005, 10:50 PM
someone go let 500 juvie silver go in the canals..... that will show them lol


why dont we put soem asians in there too!

phene4grene420
07-28-2005, 4:51 AM
Not just anywhere dummy. I meant release some asian arows back into their native habitat to help boost the wild populations. and the key words are ASIAN AROWS not silvers. Not amny people are rich enough to release their asian arows.

but rich enough to buy them? :hitting:

crazystereo
07-29-2005, 1:51 AM
Maybe someone keeps getting arowana confused with marijuana. Some should really clear this up! :hitting:

jelly
07-29-2005, 10:35 AM
Why not use an organization like MFK to help push the farmers to release into the wild?

fishnthings
07-29-2005, 1:50 PM
DID MY PART,

Peanut_Power
07-29-2005, 7:26 PM
I'm #382!! I wish i could sign it twice!! LOL!! I'll take it to other websites and try to get other people to sign as well!!

SKYLINE_WJ
07-29-2005, 11:54 PM
signed..