A rarer form of L200 Green phantom

[WyldFya]

Pictured is an image courtesy of Google (I have a better image of this in my books, but the scanner is so bad). This is a recent development of the L200 line. They are becoming a more common, however still rare form of L200. I personally like them better.

[Fabio's Dad]

What's the average price?

[WyldFya]

Find one first then worry about the price.

[Fabio's Dad]

That was a crappy answer.

[WyldFya]

This isn't something that there will be a set price to. This will fall under the mutation category, which means it is the sellers option. They could just be sent to a LFS and sold at the same price as any other L200, or from a private collector that could sell him for over $100, and then the guy that wants to rip you off could sell them for well skys the limit.

700 posts! where is the koolaid guy to go OHH YEAH!
:mwave:

[Fabio's Dad]

OOOOHHHHH YEEEEEEAAAAHHH!!!!!

[WyldFya]

OOOOHHHHH YEEEEEEAAAAHHH!!!!!

HAHA! :ROFL: thanks. We need a smilie of that guy for such occassions. I mean we have mr. t, and a smurf... where is the koolaid guy!

[Stone Like Fish]

Whats the difference between that and a normal green phantom?

[WyldFya]

Whats the difference between that and a normal green phantom?

The high fin. This is a new variety commonly being called the L200 hifin variety.

[WyldFya]

This is a picture of the common L200 with a normal dorsal. Photo from Planetcatfish.

[Fabio's Dad]

this one is even more rare!!!!

[WyldFya]

this one is even more rare!!!!

haha try selling that on aquabid, you might get some big bucks from some sucker.

[Fabio's Dad]

purple eyed one horn swimming green people eater!!!!

[WyldFya]

You should make that your avatar

[Fabio's Dad]

I would probably get sued.

[davo]

lol. if you made it look a bit more realistic, i'd buy it. but yes i would then go on to sue you when my normal green turned up

[FishHeadSoup]

i like the common one more....

[Miles]

Hmmmmmmmmm... Got me thinkin WyldFya..

Miguel sent me a photo of this 'AMAZING NEW PLECO' that he got from a special farmer deep in the Peruvian amazon.. However, I wasn't as excited, as it was just an L200 and they wanted a RIDICOLOUS price for it. Interesting thing however, L200s DONT COME FROM PERU.. Either it migrated south from Venezuala, or it could possibly be a new subspecies that crossed over river systems during the 'flooded' season. Some websites have them referanced as being located in the Upper Orinoco basin, but we are not in contact with fishermen from that region..

Unfortunately, this is the only picture I have of it, and you can't make out the finnage. :(

Interesting, no?

PS- If I were to Import this L200, with the prices I would be paying, I would have to sell it online for about $80-100!!!

[davo]

that's interesting, i'll do some searching

[Daniel Blom]

The hi-fin L200 is now Baryancistrus demantoides, the "normal" L200 is Hemiancistrus subviridis. They both come from southern Venezuela. The Peruvian fish is VERY interesting!

[WyldFya]

Hmmmmmmmmm... Got me thinkin WyldFya..

Miguel sent me a photo of this 'AMAZING NEW PLECO' that he got from a special farmer deep in the Peruvian amazon.. However, I wasn't as excited, as it was just an L200 and they wanted a RIDICOLOUS price for it. Interesting thing however, L200s DONT COME FROM PERU.. Either it migrated south from Venezuala, or it could possibly be a new subspecies that crossed over river systems during the 'flooded' season. Some websites have them referanced as being located in the Upper Orinoco basin, but we are not in contact with fishermen from that region..

Unfortunately, this is the only picture I have of it, and you can't make out the finnage. :(

Interesting, no?

PS- If I were to Import this L200, with the prices I would be paying, I would have to sell it online for about $80-100!!!

I'll have to do some research... that pleco does appear to have a hifin comparing the first hard ray of the dorsal to the first hard ray of the pectoral. That is a pretty large pleco considering dot size, as well as the fish in the tank below appear to be some form of tetra?

[WyldFya]

The hi-fin L200 is now Baryancistrus demantoides, the "normal" L200 is Hemiancistrus subviridis. They both come from southern Venezuela. The Peruvian fish is VERY interesting!

Ah I just found the labeling of the scientific. The Dematoides is distinguishable by the dorsal and adipose fin being connected by an expanded posterior section of the dorsal-fin membrane. picture included pointing this out.

[WyldFya]

Hmmmmmmmmm... Got me thinkin WyldFya..

Miguel sent me a photo of this 'AMAZING NEW PLECO' that he got from a special farmer deep in the Peruvian amazon.. However, I wasn't as excited, as it was just an L200 and they wanted a RIDICOLOUS price for it. Interesting thing however, L200s DONT COME FROM PERU.. Either it migrated south from Venezuala, or it could possibly be a new subspecies that crossed over river systems during the 'flooded' season. Some websites have them referanced as being located in the Upper Orinoco basin, but we are not in contact with fishermen from that region..

Unfortunately, this is the only picture I have of it, and you can't make out the finnage. :(

Interesting, no?

PS- If I were to Import this L200, with the prices I would be paying, I would have to sell it online for about $80-100!!!

Did they give you any kind of a name???

[dimfer]

nice looking fish

[Thomas_Hung]

Ah I just found the labeling of the scientific. The Dematoides is distinguishable by the dorsal and adipose fin being connected by an expanded posterior section of the dorsal-fin membrane. picture included pointing this out.


I just rattled mine out of his cave and that is exactly what mine looks like! :woot:

[michael]

I think I saw them at SA for like $25

[Miles]

I'll have to do some research... that pleco does appear to have a hifin comparing the first hard ray of the dorsal to the first hard ray of the pectoral. That is a pretty large pleco considering dot size, as well as the fish in the tank below appear to be some form of tetra?

Yep, those are some tetras in the tank below.. We export a ton of tetras to other countries.

The only information that my exporter and/or fisherman gave me was the title of the jpg, which was 'Yellow Spotted Pleco'.. They use alot of common names and aren't very big into scientific information, they just want to sell fish for a good price..

I can try to bring in 1 or 2 of these guys in the future for ID'ing, if I can find someone to take them off my hands after they arrive.. :D

[WyldFya]

Yep, those are some tetras in the tank below.. We export a ton of tetras to other countries.

The only information that my exporter and/or fisherman gave me was the title of the jpg, which was 'Yellow Spotted Pleco'.. They use alot of common names and aren't very big into scientific information, they just want to sell fish for a good price..

I can try to bring in 1 or 2 of these guys in the future for ID'ing, if I can find someone to take them off my hands after they arrive.. :D

I'd be willing, the price is the only question. That thing must be close to 6"!

[WyldFya]

That pleco you posted Miles has to be pushing 7" maybe more... While Hemiancistrus Subvirdis and Baryancistrus Dematoides both can attain that size, they rarely go over that size. It also seems to be a narrower body type than either of the previous L200s. This is very curious... I've been doing some research and have come up with nothing for a possibility. I'll PM you and we'll get one of those guys up here.

[gollum]

thats a nice fish

you guys are so lucky to have such availability

[WyldFya]

thats a nice fish

you guys are so lucky to have such availability

Yeah but you are lucky in that you can have Asian aros.

[paintboi101]

well i got my phantom for 30, but i think the average is 35 not sure.

[WyldFya]

Depends on the size. I have seen small ones go for as cheap as $20, but they were about 1.5" long. I have seen them go for $300 also, 5.5" Baryancistrus Dematoides.

[WyldFya]

The Dematoides goes for more money, so if you buy one of the Subvirdis variety, it will cost less. Both of mine were $45, but in excellent condition, and nearly 4".

[fishnthings]

these are what my lfs has for 44.99 at 4-6" all the time

[WyldFya]

Which variety? Hemiancistrus Subvirdis???

[fishnthings]

idk i havent went all the way throught this thread but it was the very first pic you posted

[WyldFya]

Is the dorsal fin's membrane attached to the adipose fin? If it is attached it is a Dematoides. If the tissue isn't attached like that, but they touch than it is a subvirdis.