im not sure buit i think my reds are sick

[paopanlilio]

the lfs i got it from had it with guppies so they can eat anytime they want

so they ate live fish and im not sure if thos fish had any disease or parasites and i didnt give em any medications yet because i heard theyre allergic to malachite green i think

they are very active but they seem to stop eating
they used to love shrimp now they ignore it

parameters are the same i just tested my water

are they sick or do they have parasites or am i just freaking out?

[massabsamurai]

You can use prazipro as a preventative or if they do have any tapeworms and stuff in their systems, it will remove em.

[Armand]

the lfs i got it from had it with guppies so they can eat anytime they want

so they ate live fish and im not sure if thos fish had any disease or parasites and i didnt give em any medications yet because i heard theyre allergic to malachite green i think

they are very active but they seem to stop eating
they used to love shrimp now they ignore it

parameters are the same i just tested my water

are they sick or do they have parasites or am i just freaking out?


Hi.

I dont think they're sick.

I suggest do a partial water change of about 30% of the water and try feeding the next day, you'll see how they dart toward food....

If it is this, stick to a water change routine of 20-30% every 10 days and you'll have your P's in better cond.

And don't overfeed them I feed mine every now and then and with different stuff, white fish, squid, shrimps and once a month chicken breast or once a month beefheart.



Cheers.

[Diogenes]

the lfs i got it from had it with guppies so they can eat anytime they want

so they ate live fish and im not sure if thos fish had any disease or parasites and i didnt give em any medications yet because i heard theyre allergic to malachite green i think

they are very active but they seem to stop eating
they used to love shrimp now they ignore it

parameters are the same i just tested my water

are they sick or do they have parasites or am i just freaking out?


Hi.

I dont think they're sick.

I suggest do a partial water change of about 30% of the water and try feeding the next day, you'll see how they dart toward food....

If it is this, stick to a water change routine of 20-30% every 10 days and you'll have your P's in better cond.

And don't overfeed them I feed mine every now and then and with different stuff, white fish, squid, shrimps and once a month chicken breast or once a month beefheart.



Cheers.

yeah typically flat worm infestation means that they eat and eat and still lose weight. The reason for that is that the tapeworms in the intestine absorb the nutrients rather than your fish. I don't think lack of appetite is a sign of worm infestation. I still wouldn't feed trash like feeder guppies or comets though.

[paopanlilio]

[quote=Armand;3093039;]

yeah typically flat worm infestation means that they eat and eat and still lose weight. The reason for that is that the tapeworms in the intestine absorb the nutrients rather than your fish. I don't think lack of appetite is a sign of worm infestation. I still wouldn't feed trash like feeder guppies or comets though.


i really think they need meds and i just dont want to use stuff that may harm them

did the 30% pwc every 2 days but it has no effect
only thing is now theyre biting the food but they spit it out right away
what could this be?

[Armand]

[quote=Diogenes;3093052;]


i really think they need meds and i just dont want to use stuff that may harm them

did the 30% pwc every 2 days but it has no effect
only thing is now theyre biting the food but they spit it out right away
what could this be?

How long have they been doing this for?, I mean when P's are overfed, it is not rare to see them loosing their apetite even for a week, so just keep an eye closely.

[paopanlilio]

about a week now and ive been doing 25-30% wc every day since i noticed

[JoeDizzleMPLS]

if its only been a week, i wouldn't worry.... unless you see other warning signs, i wouldn't even consider dumping meds into the tank and if your water params are good, there is no reason to be changing your water anymore than usual, you are probably just stressing them out even more. i would just give em time and keep trying to feed them, they should come around.

[Armand]

about a week now and ive been doing 25-30% wc every day since i noticed


:eek: Hold your horses cowboy!!!!:nilly: I told you to do a 30% water change every 10 days not daily for god's sake!!!!.:screwy:

Those daily water changes are doing nothing but stressing your P's therefore they are not eating....

Do what you are told to do and try not to add wrong ideas to what you are told. :irked:

[Armand]

if its only been a week, i wouldn't worry.... unless you see other warning signs, i wouldn't even consider dumping meds into the tank and if your water params are good, there is no reason to be changing your water anymore than usual, you are probably just stressing them out even more. i would just give em time and keep trying to feed them, they should come around.


Sh*t man, that's is for sure!!!!...:nilly:

[paopanlilio]

maybe i am stressing them shoot

[Ohio Entusiast]

How large are your Piranha? In my experience their appetite decreases dramatically around the 5'' mark. Mine would eat like pigs from half-dollar size until about 4-5''. When smaller it wasn't uncommon for the 5 of them to consume 20-25 shrimp a day.

Today they might eat 8-10 shrimp every 2-3 days and sometimes less than that. Also, you might check your temperatures. I keep mine around 83 degrees.

[luckydemonz3]

ya wait it out do water changes every lik 10 days

[Ohio Entusiast]

:eek: Hold your horses cowboy!!!!:nilly: I told you to do a 30% water change every 10 days not daily for god's sake!!!!.:screwy:

Those daily water changes are doing nothing but stressing your P's therefore they are not eating....

Do what you are told to do and try not to add wrong ideas to what you are told. :irked:
That's a rather hypocritical statement considering it came from someone who just recently posted ''Geee man, every day one learns something new!''

For starters I've yet to see your name in the scientific journals as the all-know, wise epitome of Piranha care and information. Secondly there are simply too many unknowns in this case to toss out a demanding statement such as ''Do as you're told.'' I mean, is this a 30 gallon tank with 10 - 11'' Pygos and you're telling him to do a 30% water change every 10 days and not daily else he's a rube? What type of feeding regimen are the fish on? What are the characteristics of each individual fish?

I've found that virtually no two fish are identical and each has their likes/dislikes and there's probably very few set-ups that are identical as well.

So did I miss the Gods of Piranha swooping down from the heavens and crowning you the Master of Piranha Keeping? Do you know all there is to know about Piranha behavior to the extent that the rest of us are nothing but simple-minded half-brights that annoy you with valid questions? I mean after all, this is supposedly a forum dedicated to providing accurate information on proper care and husbandry of Piranha and a place in which should be comfortable for a Piranha keeper both new and old to ask questions of such....

There's simply TOO many ''Master Gurus'' on online forums of every description that feel as their way is the only way and anyone trying something new is a foolish rube.

In honor of Mothers' Day I'd just like to say; If you have nothing good to say, just don't say anything.

[Diogenes]

That's a rather hypocritical statement considering it came from someone who just recently posted ''Geee man, every day one learns something new!''

For starters I've yet to see your name in the scientific journals as the all-know, wise epitome of Piranha care and information. Secondly there are simply too many unknowns in this case to toss out a demanding statement such as ''Do as you're told.'' I mean, is this a 30 gallon tank with 10 - 11'' Pygos and you're telling him to do a 30% water change every 10 days and not daily else he's a rube? What type of feeding regimen are the fish on? What are the characteristics of each individual fish?

I've found that virtually no two fish are identical and each has their likes/dislikes and there's probably very few set-ups that are identical as well.

So did I miss the Gods of Piranha swooping down from the heavens and crowning you the Master of Piranha Keeping? Do you know all there is to know about Piranha behavior to the extent that the rest of us are nothing but simple-minded half-brights that annoy you with valid questions? I mean after all, this is supposedly a forum dedicated to providing accurate information on proper care and husbandry of Piranha and a place in which should be comfortable for a Piranha keeper both new and old to ask questions of such....

There's simply TOO many ''Master Gurus'' on online forums of every description that feel as their way is the only way and anyone trying something new is a foolish rube.

In honor of Mothers' Day I'd just like to say; If you have nothing good to say, just don't say anything.

:popcorn:

[Ohio Entusiast]

After reading that I realize I might be a little on edge from a lot of negative comments on Piranha forums.That and it's probably a good idea to proofread before hitting the ''Add Reply'' button.

I just don't think any two Piranha are a like and need to be treated as such. I have both Pygocentrus and Serrasalmus genus Piranha and each has his own personality and traits. If I were to generalize and treat all the same then some would be somewhat unhappy/disapointed.

There is a tremendous lack of information on virtually every species of Piranha and even some yet to be even discovered. Where would we be if keepers were to say back in the 40's; ''Hey, we know everything about these fish. No need to try to learn more.''? I'm sure we'll look back 50 years from now and see a lot of painfully incorrect ''laws'' about Piranha.

As keepers we need to concentrate on continuous learning and advancing the hobby as a whole rather than sitting on forums playing armchair experts. I guess I'm just fustrated with all the supposed ''can'ts'' that are thrown around.

[Diogenes]

After reading that I realize I might be a little on edge from a lot of negative comments on Piranha forums.That and it's probably a good idea to proofread before hitting the ''Add Reply'' button.

I just don't think any two Piranha are a like and need to be treated as such. I have both Pygocentrus and Serrasalmus genus Piranha and each has his own personality and traits. If I were to generalize and treat all the same then some would be somewhat unhappy/disapointed.

There is a tremendous lack of information on virtually every species of Piranha and even some yet to be even discovered. Where would we be if keepers were to say back in the 40's; ''Hey, we know everything about these fish. No need to try to learn more.''? I'm sure we'll look back 50 years from now and see a lot of painfully incorrect ''laws'' about Piranha.

As keepers we need to concentrate on continuous learning and advancing the hobby as a whole rather than sitting on forums playing armchair experts. I guess I'm just fustrated with all the supposed ''can'ts'' that are thrown around.

Amen. I respect the fact that your doing that brandtii project. I think alot of people that post on forums (probably myself included) can be a bit pedantic about piranhas. Nevertheless I think that when somebody comes here asking for general piranha keeping advice, it would be irresponsible to tell people to just try anything. I think we should be respectful when doing it however, but if somebody says "hey I'm new to piranha, just picked up 5 RBPs and rhom. They're all in my 55g tank. They're about 6-7 inches in length. I'm feeding them bloodworms and they won't eat. What am I doing wrong?" I think it would be irresponsible to not give them some sort of advice. I do agree however that we should try to avoid labeling ourselves as "experts." That is unless your an ichthyologist specializing in piranhas, or you've been in the hobby for 20+ years.

Just my .02. :)

[Ohio Entusiast]

"hey I'm new to piranha, just picked up 5 RBPs and rhom. They're all in my 55g tank. They're about 6-7 inches in length. I'm feeding them bloodworms and they won't eat. What am I doing wrong?"

Although I cringe when reading such a post and a very wide array of sarcastic/possibly humorous responses come to my head I refrain. Usually at that point I look back at when I fish seriously started keeping fish. At that point I had no idea what I was doing. Luckily I went on to keep virtually every Cichlid and Marine fish known to man as well as some pretty incredible reef set-ups. I could never have Piranha [legally] due to living in Florida. I came back to Ohio and it was on.

Anyway, even though I learned an endless vat of knowledge from other keepers, websites and forums, nothing trumps experience. I've done many things that ''they'' said could never be done. I might still be keeping Black Moor Goldfish in a bowl if I never got the urge to go on to bigger and better....

Being a fan of literature, you should see the significance of the quote in my signiture line. Ole' Crowley may have been a madman in his own way, he was also brilliant and wrote some pretty heavy writings. That quote is probably my all-time favorite quote of any writer I know about.

[Diogenes]

"hey I'm new to piranha, just picked up 5 RBPs and rhom. They're all in my 55g tank. They're about 6-7 inches in length. I'm feeding them bloodworms and they won't eat. What am I doing wrong?"

Although I cringe when reading such a post and a very wide array of sarcastic/possibly humorous responses come to my head I refrain. Usually at that point I look back at when I fish seriously started keeping fish. At that point I had no idea what I was doing. Luckily I went on to keep virtually every Cichlid and Marine fish known to man as well as some pretty incredible reef set-ups. I could never have Piranha [legally] due to living in Florida. I came back to Ohio and it was on.

Anyway, even though I learned an endless vat of knowledge from other keepers, websites and forums, nothing trumps experience. I've done many things that ''they'' said could never be done. I might still be keeping Black Moor Goldfish in a bowl if I never got the urge to go on to bigger and better....

Being a fan of literature, you should see the significance of the quote in my signiture line. Ole' Crowley may have been a madman in his own way, he was also brilliant and wrote some pretty heavy writings. That quote is probably my all-time favorite quote of any writer I know about.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" - The law of thalema

I am familiar with mr crowley. I would agree that nothing trumps experience, but as my man Husserl used to say, "experience by itself is not science." :grinno:

well it's bed time for me. I've got finals in the morning. Keep your fingers crossed for me.

[Ohio Entusiast]

Good luck man! What are you studying btw?

[Diogenes]

Good luck man! What are you studying btw?

Nursing :screwy:

If I pass tomorrow I am 3 classes away from being an RN. All I need is OB and pediatrics, take the NCLEX and I'm done. Hopefully I'll do well. I've been studying. I'm so nervous though I'm having a hard time closing the power point slides and going to bed. I don't want to take anything either because the exams at 8am along commute away and my alarm clock (my fiance ) is out of town til wednesday.

[Ohio Entusiast]

Nursing :screwy:

If I pass tomorrow I am 3 classes away from being an RN. All I need is OB and pediatrics, take the NCLEX and I'm done. Hopefully I'll do well. I've been studying.


Awesome dude! I wish you the best.

[Armand]

That's a rather hypocritical statement considering it came from someone who just recently posted ''Geee man, every day one learns something new!''

For starters I've yet to see your name in the scientific journals as the all-know, wise epitome of Piranha care and information. Secondly there are simply too many unknowns in this case to toss out a demanding statement such as ''Do as you're told.'' I mean, is this a 30 gallon tank with 10 - 11'' Pygos and you're telling him to do a 30% water change every 10 days and not daily else he's a rube? What type of feeding regimen are the fish on? What are the characteristics of each individual fish?

I've found that virtually no two fish are identical and each has their likes/dislikes and there's probably very few set-ups that are identical as well.

So did I miss the Gods of Piranha swooping down from the heavens and crowning you the Master of Piranha Keeping? Do you know all there is to know about Piranha behavior to the extent that the rest of us are nothing but simple-minded half-brights that annoy you with valid questions? I mean after all, this is supposedly a forum dedicated to providing accurate information on proper care and husbandry of Piranha and a place in which should be comfortable for a Piranha keeper both new and old to ask questions of such....

There's simply TOO many ''Master Gurus'' on online forums of every description that feel as their way is the only way and anyone trying something new is a foolish rube.

In honor of Mothers' Day I'd just like to say; If you have nothing good to say, just don't say anything.


Gee Ohio, I think you're overreacting to this lasT post of mine man.

Wasn't my intention to sound so pedantic justr trying to help the man.

Have you read all the thread since the beginning?.

And I am not trying to show I know everything about fishkeeping, piranha keeping or else.


I am soorry you got that impression.

[Armand]

Amen. I respect the fact that your doing that brandtii project. I think alot of people that post on forums (probably myself included) can be a bit pedantic about piranhas. Nevertheless I think that when somebody comes here asking for general piranha keeping advice, it would be irresponsible to tell people to just try anything. I think we should be respectful when doing it however, but if somebody says "hey I'm new to piranha, just picked up 5 RBPs and rhom. They're all in my 55g tank. They're about 6-7 inches in length. I'm feeding them bloodworms and they won't eat. What am I doing wrong?" I think it would be irresponsible to not give them some sort of advice. I do agree however that we should try to avoid labeling ourselves as "experts." That is unless your an ichthyologist specializing in piranhas, or you've been in the hobby for 20+ years.

Just my .02. :)

Give me a break man! who is labeling as an expert?, just trying to help the man and doing 30% daily water changes in not the best for any fish.

I think if I am being to pedantic or rude to our phillipinean friend he must be capable enough for sure to let me know don't you think so?.

[jp80911]

Give me a break man! who is labeling as an expert?, just trying to help the man and doing 30% daily water changes in not the best for any fish.

I think if I am being to pedantic or rude to our phillipinean friend he must be capable enough for sure to let me know don't you think so?.

why would doing 30% daily WC not the best for any fish? :confused:

[Armand]

why would doing 30% daily WC not the best for any fish? :confused:

Well to tell true I am infering that when a partial WC is made, it is commonly done with tap water and tap water is commonly treated with chlorine.

So you would be exposing your fish to a daily chlorine dose which can stress out your fish and lead them to desease if chlorine doesn't kill them first.

So tap water or any other water used in the partial WC must be free of chlorine and set to the same temperature of your tank before pouring it inside of it.

If given the case that one is taking care of this two odetails (chlorine and temp), there shouldn't be any other problem to make a daily water change, but we have to be very aware of this two details.

Moreover a 30% daily water change using dechlorined water and set to the same temp of the tank would repersent a lot of work and soon the hobbist would be fed up. it is not practical.


Is there any other reason teacher?.:D

[jp80911]

Well to tell true I am infering that when a partial WC is made, it is commonly done with tap water and tap water is commonly treated with chlorine.

So you would be exposing your fish to a daily chlorine dose which can stress out your fish and lead them to desease if chlorine doesn't kill them first.

So tap water or any other water used in the partial WC must be free of chlorine and set to the same temperature of your tank before pouring it inside of it.

If given the case that one is taking care of this two odetails (chlorine and temp), there shouldn't be any other problem to make a daily water change, but we have to be very aware of this two details.

Moreover a 30% daily water change using dechlorined water and set to the same temp of the tank would repersent a lot of work and soon the hobbist would be fed up. it is not practical.


Is there any other reason teacher?.:D

the other reason you shouldn't do 30% water change other than temperature and chlorine issue is if the untreated water will cause pH swing in the tank. if new water has all parameters check out good then I say do it~!!

that's why I have a 32 gallon bucket to let the water "age" which takes care the chlorine issue and at least settle to room temperature and my tap water outputs 7 pH. this way I can do small partial water change whenever I'm in the basement. this is my ghetto semi auto water change system. :ROFL:

[Diogenes]

Give me a break man! who is labeling as an expert?, just trying to help the man and doing 30% daily water changes in not the best for any fish.

I think if I am being to pedantic or rude to our phillipinean friend he must be capable enough for sure to let me know don't you think so?.

I wasn't referring to you specifically armand. No offense intended.

[paopanlilio]

woah i was on a vacation for 4 days i missed all the action here

the water i use for my daily wc is aged remember my post i have an empty tank below thats has its own overhead filter that i use for aging

and i was doing the daily water chge before they acted weird

theyre doing fine now the thing i missed was the heater it wasnt plugged properly
so i checked the parameters every day and it was the same parameters but i missed the temp

no need to argue about anything guys were all hear to learn from each other
id ont know a lot bout p's and i admit they are harder to take care of compared to my cichlids but im enjoying them and im enjoying mfk

thanx for the info guys my p's are back to normal now and they all eat like machines

[JoeDizzleMPLS]

good to hear man

[paopanlilio]

thanx
temp here is extremely hot at day and gets cold at night

[Armand]

woah i was on a vacation for 4 days i missed all the action here

the water i use for my daily wc is aged remember my post i have an empty tank below thats has its own overhead filter that i use for aging

and i was doing the daily water chge before they acted weird

theyre doing fine now the thing i missed was the heater it wasnt plugged properly
so i checked the parameters every day and it was the same parameters but i missed the temp

no need to argue about anything guys were all hear to learn from each other
id ont know a lot bout p's and i admit they are harder to take care of compared to my cichlids but im enjoying them and im enjoying mfk

thanx for the info guys my p's are back to normal now and they all eat like machines


Nice to hear that...

[paopanlilio]

thanx. . . .
i also added a darkblue background
think that it may have had an effect on them ?

[Ohio Entusiast]

Give me a break man! who is labeling as an expert?, just trying to help the man and doing 30% daily water changes in not the best for any fish.

I think if I am being to pedantic or rude to our phillipinean friend he must be capable enough for sure to let me know don't you think so?.

You're right, I did overreact. I probably took your words out of context and displaced some of my anger on you which should have been directed at other posters on another forum. I apologize.

I'm not speaking of anyone here but I get frustrated when somebody who has probably never even kept a certain species of fish declares themselves an expert on said fish. On another forum I reached the brink of a meltdown reading what can only be considered disinformation written by some extremely clueless people.
Once again, I apologize.

[paopanlilio]

there we go kiss and make up (joke)

anyways im a noob in p keeping and just want to learn from you guys
and im learning thanx to you guys

[Diogenes]

have you guys ever heard of sodium theophospate, prime, amquel, or similiar product? The reaction occurs on contact, stir to increase surface area. Takes out chlorine and chloramine instantly. All thats water aging stuff is old school. Get some prime and put fish in those aging tanks.

[paopanlilio]

actually im using something similar to that
but its two products used as one that has great effects ive been using it for about a year now
let me check my stuff later

[Diogenes]

actually im using something similar to that
but its two products used as one that has great effects ive been using it for about a year now
let me check my stuff later

yeah I think i know the product your talking about. One is for dechlor, the other removes heavy metals from the water if I'm not mistaken.

[paopanlilio]

yup thats it

[Diogenes]

that should be more than adequate.

[jp80911]

have you guys ever heard of sodium theophospate, prime, amquel, or similiar product? The reaction occurs on contact, stir to increase surface area. Takes out chlorine and chloramine instantly. All thats water aging stuff is old school. Get some prime and put fish in those aging tanks.

what's wrong with old school :D, that's cheapest and chemical free..I know, I'm just a cheap @$$ :banhim:

[Diogenes]

what's wrong with old school :D, that's cheapest and chemical free..I know, I'm just a cheap @$$ :banhim:

nothing I guess. I'm just so impatient I want dechlored water when I want it. Plus theres tons of chloramines in the h20 in DC (along with prozac, dead bodies, antibiotics, trace elements like lead, cadmium, arsenic etc but i digress) and chloramines take longer to dissipate.

[jp80911]

if you put an air stone in it to break surface that will help speed up the process.

[paopanlilio]

i use those products but i wait a day before i add the water i also have a small over head to break the surface in my 50g aging tank

[Ohio Entusiast]

have you guys ever heard of sodium theophospate, prime, amquel, or similiar product? The reaction occurs on contact, stir to increase surface area. Takes out chlorine and chloramine instantly. All thats water aging stuff is old school. Get some prime and put fish in those aging tanks.

Yeah, I have no patience for aging water. I just walked into a hella deal. I went to Lowes and happened to go by the pond supplies. They had Jungle Labs dechlorinator in the 16 oz bottles on clearance from $8.95 to $4.94. I bought 15 bottles and when they rang up, they rang up @ $2.92. I went back and bought the remaining 32 bottles.

I should be set for a few months now...

[jp80911]

Yeah, I have no patience for aging water. I just walked into a hella deal. I went to Lowes and happened to go by the pond supplies. They had Jungle Labs dechlorinator in the 16 oz bottles on clearance from $8.95 to $4.94. I bought 15 bottles and when they rang up, they rang up @ $2.92. I went back and bought the remaining 32 bottles.

I should be set for a few months now...

should check if they had more in the back and empty their warehouse, then you can be a jungle lab dechlorinator vendor here

[Ohio Entusiast]

Yeah, the way I see it I'm set for the next year at least. I went to another local store and they had sold out. I was just thinking I should go back and check with a mamager to see if they had more in the back.
I don't know if it's a national, regional or just local thing but they had all kinds of similar deals on pond chemicals and test kits. They had the strip testers for Nitrate/Nitrite/Ammonia for $4.94 also and they may have very well rang up at $2.92 as well.

[jp80911]

honesty I never thought of check out pond supply at lowes for those stuff...maybe next time when i need something I'll check out there
oh, ohio, how frequent you dose your tank with parasite meds?

[Ohio Entusiast]

honesty I never thought of check out pond supply at lowes for those stuff...maybe next time when i need something I'll check out there
oh, ohio, how frequent you dose your tank with parasite meds?


I've never really shopped Lowes for aquarium supplies either. I've been looking for a good deal on biomedia and just happened to think they might have a large amount cheaper than the fish shops.

I've only treated my tanks the one time that I mentioned. I did my Sanchezi and Piraya tanks and the glass was full of those ''worms." I did my Natt's tank and saw nothing in terms of such worms. My buddy suggested I treat them every 6 months or so.

[jp80911]

that's what I was thinking..will dose the tank again few months later as I feed them sunfish and bass I caught from fishing (i cut them up and freeze them first), just want to make sure my rhom is clean

[Ohio Entusiast]

that's what I was thinking..will dose the tank again few months later as I feed them sunfish and bass I caught from fishing (i cut them up and freeze them first), just want to make sure my rhom is clean
I think along the same pattern. I feed mine Crappie caught in a local lake [along with other traditional foods.] and know they;re filled with parasites. I figure so long as I treat them regularly all will be well. I feed mine live so probably risk more than those who freeze them.

[Dankzville]

I think along the same pattern. I feed mine Crappie caught in a local lake [along with other traditional foods.] and know they;re filled with parasites. I figure so long as I treat them regularly all will be well. I feed mine live so probably risk more than those who freeze them.
you just wanna see the fish you caught suffer dont lie lol:D

[Ohio Entusiast]

you just wanna see the fish you caught suffer dont lie lol:D

Actually no. I try to duplicate the naturaul Piranha diet as best I can. Being in Ohio obviously I can't provide a steady supply a steady diet of Angel Fish and such so I feed Bluegill and Crapie.

Truth be told I do ''get off'' to a certain extent watching them feed. But in the end it's all about providing the best diet I can to my ''babies.''

[Armand]

You're right, I did overreact. I probably took your words out of context and displaced some of my anger on you which should have been directed at other posters on another forum. I apologize.

I'm not speaking of anyone here but I get frustrated when somebody who has probably never even kept a certain species of fish declares themselves an expert on said fish. On another forum I reached the brink of a meltdown reading what can only be considered disinformation written by some extremely clueless people.
Once again, I apologize.


Never mind Ohio I keep no hard feelings bro....

Actually i overreact myself sometimes and act as if I were very rude, sometimes just to enfazise things.

Cheers.

[jp80911]

Actually no. I try to duplicate the naturaul Piranha diet as best I can. Being in Ohio obviously I can't provide a steady supply a steady diet of Angel Fish and such so I feed Bluegill and Crapie.

Truth be told I do ''get off'' to a certain extent watching them feed. But in the end it's all about providing the best diet I can to my ''babies.''

I'm with you on the same page there.
don't even watch them feed anymore even I do feed live.