Is this velvet?

[batang_mcdo]

Noticed 2 of my severums seem stressed , all the stressbars showing, and 2 days ago noticed they seem to have ich but finer.

Is this velvet? Its the start of rainy season here, and the weather has become a little cooler.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/batang_mcdo/velvet002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/batang_mcdo/velvet003.jpg

I dosed the tank with 1 tablespoon salt per 5 gallon added some melafix and turned on the 2 heaters to 28 Deg.

Anything else i can do ?

thanks.

[JakeH]

I cant see the pic, but mine got a gold-ish sheen to them when they got velvet

[batang_mcdo]

thanks, So this might not be velvet, Will get some test kits, Might be something wrong with my water parameters. Also its a little cold here now due to rainy season.

[bluehairman]

thanks, So this might not be velvet, Will get some test kits, Might be something wrong with my water parameters. Also its a little cold here now due to rainy season.
Being colder wouldn't help the bacteria out. Unless they specifically like colder temperatures. But it can weaken the fish's immune system making it more likely to get a disease/illness.
What makes you suspect velvet specifically? Sounds like there's definitely something wrong with your fish, but it's too early to tell. Just hold on and see how the fish are over the next few days.

[paopanlilio]

its not raining anymore man its getting hot in here again

urgghh and i cant see the pic

[batang_mcdo]

Being colder wouldn't help the bacteria out. Unless they specifically like colder temperatures. But it can weaken the fish's immune system making it more likely to get a disease/illness.
What makes you suspect velvet specifically? Sounds like there's definitely something wrong with your fish, but it's too early to tell. Just hold on and see how the fish are over the next few days.
I noticed they were just hanging out on a corner of the tank, and fins seem to be cloudy, and also the body has some whitish growth, looks like slime coat, currently 2 fish are affected, but I'm worried it might spread.

[batang_mcdo]

btw checked water parameter, ammonia is 0, ph is 7.5
I increased salt concentration to 1 tablespoon per 3 gallons.

[bluehairman]

What's the temperature of the tank? I would suggest getting a heater if water < 75F

[batang_mcdo]

What's the temperature of the tank? I would suggest getting a heater if water < 75F
I did not check the temperature yesterday, but when the fish got sick, I turned on my 2 300 watt heaters in the tank , temperature is currently set at 28 Deg celcius.
will get a thermometer later. my other fish doesn't seem to be affected

[bluehairman]

Alright, maybe bump the temp up to 29-30C and start doing 25% water changes a day and replace salt as needed.
Keep us updated with detailed descriptions of symptoms.

[batang_mcdo]

Alright, maybe bump the temp up to 29-30C and start doing 25% water changes a day and replace salt as needed.
Keep us updated with detailed descriptions of symptoms.
thanks, I'll post some updated pics tonight :)

[batang_mcdo]

Hi,

Here are some more pictures, I tried to add salt to my tank to increase concentration, but noticed my arowana seems stressed and breathing harder, So i made a 20% water change . I also increased the thermometer setting to 30 Deg.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/batang_mcdo/4Fttrickleandmore007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/batang_mcdo/4Fttrickleandmore008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/batang_mcdo/4Fttrickleandmore018.jpg

Any advise?

thanks.

[JakeH]

looks like it to me... Is their breathing hard & fast? Do they have a gold sheen in certain light?

[bluehairman]

I think that's just the fish color...
But judging from the pics they don't look too stressed, the fish is in a different position for 2 of the pictures.
But I guess that's no way to tell.. Can we see a bigger tank shot?

[batang_mcdo]

thanks. Will try to take a clearer pics later, thir stressbars are showing,
before they got sick. this was their coloration.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/batang_mcdo/severums/Mahatoandgreenarocomm044.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/batang_mcdo/severums/Mahatoandgreenarocomm038.jpg

I checked and they seem a little better , but I'm still thinking wheter to buy medication for costia, my problem is i don't want to have to recycle my tanks filtration.

[bluehairman]

you can barely tell it's the same fish...
Well, if they aren't already, quarantine them and treat with prazipro. Could possibly have some sort of internal parasite. Doubtful, but something is definitely up with the fish.

[batang_mcdo]

really need help with this. :( after treatment with Azoo anti ectoparasite for 3 days as intructed in the box, some of my fish are still sick . don't know what to do now :(

any advise?

Its so hard to take pictures.


should i just separate the affected fish?

[bluehairman]

really need help with this. :( after treatment with Azoo anti ectoparasite for 3 days as intructed in the box, some of my fish are still sick . don't know what to do now :(

any advise?

Its so hard to take pictures.


should i just separate the affected fish?
Yes. Then take shot in the dark and treat with a copper medicine, and Jungles Parasite Clear food.

[batang_mcdo]

Yes. Then take shot in the dark and treat with a copper medicine, and Jungles Parasite Clear food.
thanks will post update, Was trying to avoid copper since i don't want to recycle tank, but think i have no other choice, thanks for the advise. will update :D

[bluehairman]

thanks will post update, Was trying to avoid copper since i don't want to recycle tank, but think i have no other choice, thanks for the advise. will update :D
Recycle??
I've never experienced any recycling issues after using copper medicine.
Try coppersafe or cupramine. I've used cupramine without any cycling issues.

[batang_mcdo]

Recycle??
I've never experienced any recycling issues after using copper medicine.
Try coppersafe or cupramine. I've used cupramine without any cycling issues.
thanks will post update on my fishes progress :D

[JakeH]

I agree. I had no cycle issues with CopperSafe.