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Hoyo12
06-24-2009, 9:24 PM
Just some pics of my reptiles. (I won't be getting anymore since I have just been tested and confirmed to have Salmonella, so I'll stick with collecting exotic fish)
Cuban Knight Anole. (I have had him for about 3 years now)
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1417/img0228nhr.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/img0228nhr.jpg/)
Red Bearded Dragon (Missing one leg. The person we got her from had a bunch of them together when they were babies, and someone ate her leg... but she does just fine without it) :)
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/3655/img0229.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/i/img0229.jpg/)
Orange Bearded Dragon (All four legs)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/576/img0230.jpg (http://img74.imageshack.us/i/img0230.jpg/)
Chinese Water Dragon (Raised him since he was a baby)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9081/img0226e.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/i/img0226e.jpg/)
Mali Uromastyx (Didn't like the camera flash: Raised him since he was a baby)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7634/img0234p.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/img0234p.jpg/)
Leopard Gecko (Possibly a Hypo Tangerine)
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/915/img0231c.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/img0231c.jpg/)
And a Flameback Crested Gecko (I think)
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/9493/img0235.jpg (http://img70.imageshack.us/i/img0235.jpg/)
The collection was much larger, but as time went on some died of old age, and two Leopard Geckos had died of Impaction... but everyone else is doing much better now. :)
EDIT: lol, just realized I posted this in the wrong spot... my bad.
Chef Lublin
06-24-2009, 10:57 PM
awesome collection, i love the beardy..been looking for one myself =D
Sorry to "disapoint" you but the Salmonella that you have is unlikely to have come from your reptiles;) Dont 100% certain its possible that it has origin on them but first none of your reptiles is particulary notorious from a Salmonella transmicion standpoint comparing for example with aquatic turtles and you say that you have the bacteria but you dont say wich particular kind you have, some kinds of it are actualy tipical of...HUMAN BEINGS:D and other mamals, and yes you can get it from other people by kissing for example. Wont bother you if you remain healty. You could also have gotten it from a variety of sorces including many other animals and their products like meat and eggs. By the way, cool reptiles
Hoyo12
06-25-2009, 6:10 PM
lol, disapoint? If this would be the case, then I'd be glad actually, but I'm pretty sure that it came from one of my reptiles. Or at least that is what the doctor has convinced me to belive after all of the tests had been confirmed.
Retuks
06-25-2009, 11:02 PM
lol, disapoint? If this would be the case, then I'd be glad actually, but I'm pretty sure that it came from one of my reptiles. Or at least that is what the doctor has convinced me to belive after all of the tests had been confirmed.
then wouldn't that same reptile iridate you again and again?
you coulda just ate partially raw beef or chicken. salmonella can come in veggies too. or if u put ur hands in ur mouth, touched food, fork, etc after touching one of ur reptiles (they coulda touched their own feces prior).
so that shouldn't stop you from getting more. its just common sense to wash your hands after you touch stuff.
Actually tropical fish carry salmonella more often than herps do.
Here read this;) http://www.wonderfulreptiles.com/Salmonella.html
lol, disapoint? If this would be the case, then I'd be glad actually, but I'm pretty sure that it came from one of my reptiles. Or at least that is what the doctor has convinced me to belive after all of the tests had been confirmed.
But what was the reason you tested for in the first place?
Hoyo12
06-26-2009, 10:11 AM
I had been tested after having multiple fevers, headaches, and muscle pain, on a Monday then it occured again on the following Wednesday, which does show that what Retuks asked, that one of the reptiles did infect me again and again. I had been using an Anti-Bacterial hand sanitizer, but after speaking with the doctor, I have found out that it doesn't protect from Salmonella. Just my luck.
benzjamin13
06-26-2009, 11:09 AM
Nice collection! I'm not a big fan of hand sanitizers. They kill 99.9% of bacteria, but that 0.1% is probably the one you want kill and that 0.1% will probably multiple within 3 minutes. So in essence...you're just making those bacteria that can withstand the sanitizer more concentrated and stronger. That's just my thinking. Nothing will be better that good old fashion soap and water.
Hoyo12
06-26-2009, 11:25 AM
Ya, I now know that... just me not thinking... go figure.
I had been tested after having multiple fevers, headaches, and muscle pain, on a Monday then it occured again on the following Wednesday, which does show that what Retuks asked, that one of the reptiles did infect me again and again. I had been using an Anti-Bacterial hand sanitizer, but after speaking with the doctor, I have found out that it doesn't protect from Salmonella. Just my luck.
Said it before and I will say it again, dont beleave it came from your reptiles and I even question that Salmonella is the actual culprid, the bacteria kinds that you can get from reptiles causes gastrointestinal disorders icluding diarrea and vomiting somethimes acompanied by fever and that in the more serious cases. Other species of the same genus case diferent things but thouse you simply cant get from reptiles. The simptomatology you present is very odd for a Salmonella infection and never from one contracted by reptiles. Have you been around stuff like ponds, swamps, etc in like a picnic or eaten stuff like not totaly cooked chicken or beef? Also I dont beleave that contracting 2 times thing. Even with this bacteria being present in the gutt of many reptiles, simply washing hands with normal soap makes it really hard to get contracted, let alone 2 times in 2 days, really really unlikely unless you have don a really close contact like kissing your pets or sharing food with them. Some other thing must have cause you to become hill. I keep reptiles for like 18 years and never had a prob and simply practesing normal hygene. Unless you have some kind of imune disorder it simply doesant fit. Also as I already stated you can have this bacteria normaly in your gut, in this case mamal specific Salmonella. I beleave the culprid is yet to be found. However just to be shure make a reavaluacion of what you did on thouse days and wich specific animals you did handle. Also if one of your reps has a agressive Sal it must have been afecting him as well. And yes this bacteria in himuno depressant situacions is a reptile killer. At the very least it causes dierria and can cause a deadly gastrointestinal disorder, I wonce saw a toise that later on died that had a very serious infection and that bled from her mouth, really nasty stuff
Hoyo12
06-26-2009, 7:57 PM
The type of Salmonella was confirmed, by a Dr. with multiple tests, that it did not come from food. There was some dierria (didn't mention it, because its just really awkward). Fever, headache, dierria, all symptoms form getting Salmonella from a reptile. Haven't been around swamps or ponds for a few months now. Haven't eaten anything that was uncooked. I have been working with reptiles for about four years, and this has never happened before, so I would love to say that it didn't come from one of my reptiles, but science beats basic knowledge guys. There were mutliple tests all showing that it had came from one of my reptiles. Thats it. Blood was drawn, and yes, even a Stool sample was taken. Its not that big of a deal. I am on medication for it, I should be done in just a few days, everything is good, I'm alive, no harm done.
The type of Salmonella was confirmed, by a Dr. with multiple tests, that it did not come from food. There was some dierria (didn't mention it, because its just really awkward). Fever, headache, dierria, all symptoms form getting Salmonella from a reptile. Haven't been around swamps or ponds for a few months now. Haven't eaten anything that was uncooked. I have been working with reptiles for about four years, and this has never happened before, so I would love to say that it didn't come from one of my reptiles, but science beats basic knowledge guys. There were mutliple tests all showing that it had came from one of my reptiles. Thats it. Blood was drawn, and yes, even a Stool sample was taken. Its not that big of a deal. I am on medication for it, I should be done in just a few days, everything is good, I'm alive, no harm done.
Hummm and cant you remenbar anything odd regarding thouse days? Any new animal, any diferent event? It simply is very weird, as you said, that you have been having them for 4 years and nothing happening and now in the sudden this:confused: Have you met somebody new, etc? And by the way do you have the especific cientific name of the Salmonella species that afected you? that would help allot figuring it out
coreyweinkoetz
06-28-2009, 11:29 AM
IF it's from one of your herps it would be the water dragon. You should get a second doc to look over the test results and compare them to a stool sample from the water dragon. I've worked with reptiles for over 20 years in pet shops, breeding facilities I have a zoo at home and I'm breeding snakes as a hobby. I have my hands in turtle and crocodilian water 10 times a day and thats on my days off. I've never gotten sick and In all those years and all those thousands of people I've meet I have never meet a signal person that has contracted anything from a reptile I've seen people with ringworm from small animals like chinchillas and Guinea pigs I've seen people with mites and lice from dogs and birds and the worst is cats so many nasty things people can contract from cats. Also did you tell the doctor that you had herps before or after he told you where the salmonella came from?
Hoyo12
06-28-2009, 12:08 PM
Hummm and cant you remenbar anything odd regarding thouse days? Any new animal, any diferent event? It simply is very weird, as you said, that you have been having them for 4 years and nothing happening and now in the sudden this:confused: Have you met somebody new, etc? And by the way do you have the especific cientific name of the Salmonella species that afected you? that would help allot figuring it out
I have no scientific name, but I could call back the hospital were the tests were done and figure out what it was. I haven't had any new reptiles besides the Leopard Gecko purchased in April and the two Beardies purchased in December of 08.
IF it's from one of your herps it would be the water dragon. You should get a second doc to look over the test results and compare them to a stool sample from the water dragon. I've worked with reptiles for over 20 years in pet shops, breeding facilities I have a zoo at home and I'm breeding snakes as a hobby. I have my hands in turtle and crocodilian water 10 times a day and thats on my days off. I've never gotten sick and In all those years and all those thousands of people I've meet I have never meet a signal person that has contracted anything from a reptile I've seen people with ringworm from small animals like chinchillas and Guinea pigs I've seen people with mites and lice from dogs and birds and the worst is cats so many nasty things people can contract from cats. Also did you tell the doctor that you had herps before or after he told you where the salmonella came from?
Nice hobby by the way. Anyway, I did handle the Water Dragon before I was sick (Had to help him remove daed skin from his bottom that wouldn't come off) which could be the one of the reasons. I told the Dr. that I had herps before I was told where the Salmonella came from.
I have no scientific name, but I could call back the hospital were the tests were done and figure out what it was. I haven't had any new reptiles besides the Leopard Gecko purchased in April and the two Beardies purchased in December of 08.
Nice hobby by the way. Anyway, I did handle the Water Dragon before I was sick (Had to help him remove daed skin from his bottom that wouldn't come off) which could be the one of the reasons. I told the Dr. that I had herps before I was told where the Salmonella came from.
Humm I was thinking the same about the water dragon but still the chance is really small:confused: As for the Dr you shouldnt surprise yourself, when you saiy you have reptiles any bacteria allways happens to come from there. Please if possible get me the especific Salmonella name, that will be very helpfull
girl_interrupted
06-29-2009, 10:22 PM
omg the beardie is so cute!! poor thing no leg! but u said it does fine! :D
as for the salmonella, i dont know why u rule it out! lol they CAN give it.. and he CAN get it again, if he doesnt wash properly :p
Fishes33
06-29-2009, 11:14 PM
I made a mistake...
wrong thread..
sorry
Hoyo12
06-30-2009, 12:11 AM
omg the beardie is so cute!! poor thing no leg! but u said it does fine! :D
as for the salmonella, i dont know why u rule it out! lol they CAN give it.. and he CAN get it again, if he doesnt wash properly :p
lol, thank you! Someone who agrees with me.
swede
06-30-2009, 12:14 AM
nice herps
omg the beardie is so cute!! poor thing no leg! but u said it does fine! :D
as for the salmonella, i dont know why u rule it out! lol they CAN give it.. and he CAN get it again, if he doesnt wash properly :p
Not rule it out, Im just saing that even possible it is unlikely;) The sal name would clear things out
snakeguy101
06-30-2009, 8:16 AM
Salmonella is horrible, regardless of where it comes from. I had to go through it about a year ago. I got mine from reptiles for sure. At the time I was working in a Museum working with hundreds of reptiles a day and two days before symptoms came on the water was not working and I was unable to wash my hands properly. Hang in there.
~Chris~
Salmonella is horrible, regardless of where it comes from. I had to go through it about a year ago. I got mine from reptiles for sure. At the time I was working in a Museum working with hundreds of reptiles a day and two days before symptoms came on the water was not working and I was unable to wash my hands properly. Hang in there.
~Chris~
Yup hand washing is crussial