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Anythingfish
06-27-2005, 3:01 AM
These fish were given to me buy 2 individuals who labeled them too aggressive. Further the big male was represented as sterile. The smaller female Red Devil took up with the big Flowerhorn (Midas?) male and they setup housekeeping in the large ceramic pot. The first batch of eggs laid in nice evenly spaced parallel rows turned white in a day or so and were covered with fungus almost at once. The male Flowerhorn never entered the pot while the eggs were being laid; was the male sterile or just inattentive? The second batch yielded about 200 wigglers which both parents kept clean and well protected. I used an airline siphon to remove them from the back of the pot. They are the larger fish in the 120 gallon aquarium; the second photo showing 200 fry mixed in with about 300 others, younger by 30 days. When I went after the 3rd batch of wigglers, the Flowerhorn bit me. When I return to get the wigglers after cleaning up the wound, the wiggler fry had vanished. Did the parents eat their offspring to save them? Several days later both parents were digging up mouthfuls of sand and spitting it out in the pot. Mixed in with the sand were about 200 fry which were starting to swim. I Left them in the community 180 just to see how long they would last. Now 30 days later they are doing fine. The other fish have been driven away from the Flowerhorn end of the tank including the African Lungfish. The fry somehow have learned just how far they can travel away from their end of the tank and venture no further. They are eating very well and are about as large as the prior batch of fry which are 30 days older.

How long will it take for the fry to get some red color? Am I obligated to give the original owners of the fish pick of the litter? Will any of these fish become as spectacular as the parents? What is a Flowerhorn anyway and are these fry true Flowerhorn or something else?

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn with fry in the 180 gallon community tank.
Sorry, I will get the photos up shortly.

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn fry in the 120 gallon tank Sorry, I will get the photos up shortly.


This is a link to my fish collection: http://anythingfish.com/images/Ted/PhotoGallery/TedsMasterIndex.htm

MossOnGrass
06-27-2005, 6:45 AM
they wont turn red for quite a while , I have a nice male and it took 3 months before he started showing off

Anythingfish
07-11-2005, 2:10 AM
MISSING FLOWERHORN PHOTOS NOW READY

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn fry in the 120 gallon tank

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/FlowerhornFry120-6714.jpg

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn with fry in the 180 gallon community tank.

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/Flowerhorn180-6768.jpg

This is a link to: Ted's fish photos
http://anythingfish.com/images/Ted/PhotoGallery/TedsMasterIndex.htm

BIG REDD
07-24-2005, 12:50 AM
nice fish. Are you selling and willing to ship?

Anythingfish
07-24-2005, 1:40 AM
nice fish. Are you selling and willing to ship?
The fish are doing well however no color showing as yet. I have been thinking about shipping a half dozen 3/4" to 1" fish in a bag in the mail, Priority Mail 2 day delivery. I am located in Washington State and would like to try some experimental shipments to distant states at no charge to members who will report back on the fish condition and how they fair over time.

I kept a dozen or so 1/2" fry in a small 1 pint bag sealed up for 30 days with no food and no water changes. They are doing fine now in a 2 quart jar with occasional food and 25% water changes weekly. They are growing some although they are less than 1/2 the size of the other fry from the same batch.

If you will raise them in 1 gallon or larger container and want to play around with some fish send me a private message through monsterfishkeepers.com

My Web Site: http:www.anythingfish.com

Waldo
07-25-2005, 1:17 AM
When I was in GZ China, I had the opportunity to talk with a farmer of discus/FH he said he wouldn't start culling (outside of belly bouncers and runts) until about the 3 month. 2 month should the the first chance to see who they're going to take after. Nice job btw, I think you have yourself a good source of income if you treat it right and don't get greedy. :cheers:

SKYLINE_WJ
08-07-2005, 9:21 AM
nice tin foil u hav...

btw..the fry is it seperated from the parent?

repair
08-07-2005, 10:05 AM
Put me down for a trial shipment....and I don't mind paying for the shipping....I would recomend using overnight...but it's your call.

Don't forget to use something to netualize the amonia, a sponge does a great job and don't feed the guys 1 day before shipping....3 days for larger fish. O2 does a good job also. 1 part water 3 parts air.

I know that you prob know all this but never hurts to remind people.

Thanks. Repair

FUB
08-07-2005, 12:03 PM
WOw, congrat! Be careful on the water condition and cover the tank with newspaper.

DRaGoNoVA
08-08-2005, 11:27 AM
congrats!!!

repair
08-08-2005, 12:31 PM
WOw, congrat! Be careful on the water condition and cover the tank with newspaper.

Why would you cover it with newspaper?

Anythingfish
08-08-2005, 12:57 PM
Update on the Flowerhorn Fry:

None of the 500+ fry have any red color or red in the eye. The two spawnings are now 3 and 4 months old. The largest fish is 2"+. The photo shows one of about 6 fish with a black coloration in the tail fin area.

These are updated photos of the Flowerhorn fry in the 120 gallon aquarium.

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/FH-120-7675.jpg

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/FH-120-7682.jpg

This is a link to my other aquariums:
http://anythingfish.com/images/Ted/PhotoGallery/TedsMasterIndex.htm

Visit our AnythingFish website: 2400 gallon outdoor aquarium construction photos, filters and filtration issues, Jumbo tropical fish: Pacu, Tiger Shovelnose Catfish, Redtail Catfish, Arowana, Marbled Sailfin, Stingrays, African Lungfish, Koi pond
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WckedMidas
08-08-2005, 1:57 PM
the pics i seen of the parents looked like mdias devil mixs. what type of fh are they suposed to be?

color wont realy start showing up till they are pushing the 3 inch pluss mark

Anythingfish
08-08-2005, 3:21 PM
the pics i seen of the parents looked like mdias devil mixs. what type of fh are they suposed to be?

color wont realy start showing up till they are pushing the 3 inch pluss mark

The Male was a gift, the female is mostly or all Red Devil. The male was thought to be sterile as sometimes these hybrids are but finally after several attempts sired some offspring. Other than red orange coloration and long dorsal rays indicating Midas / Flowerhorn I do not know what its parentage is.

SKYLINE_WJ
08-09-2005, 11:05 AM
nice frys there.. :grinno:

BIG REDD
08-15-2005, 11:08 AM
the fry look good, should be getting some this week. wanna say thanx again. :grinyes:

wenjun
08-20-2005, 11:32 AM
nice fry u hav...

BIG REDD
08-27-2005, 11:03 AM
I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I JUST GOT A FEW FRY FROM THIS BREEDING AND THEY LOOKED PRETTY GOOD. I CANT WAIT TO KEEP U GUYS POSTED OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FRY AND MAYBE COMPARE MY RESULTS WITH OTHERS. THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woot: :clap :headbang2 :thumbsup: :D

Just1nK4ng
08-27-2005, 2:10 PM
MISSING FLOWERHORN PHOTOS NOW READY

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn fry in the 120 gallon tank

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/FlowerhornFry120-6714.jpg

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn with fry in the 180 gallon community tank.

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/Flowerhorn180-6768.jpg

This is a link to: Ted's fish photos
http://anythingfish.com/images/Ted/PhotoGallery/TedsMasterIndex.htm

:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap CONGRATS

armac
08-27-2005, 6:52 PM
I just received some nice fry from Anythingfish, he is a perfect gentleman, he is testing if fish can be delivered by the USPS by 2nd day mail. My fish came in perfect, they ate right out of the bag. If anyone has any doubts about dealing with this man, they should have none.:clap :headbang2

Nate_N_Nicole
08-27-2005, 7:07 PM
Congrats on the fry, you got some sweet fish... Ever have any luck with you monster Budda's breeding and how big are they??? (2,400gal)

Just1nK4ng
08-28-2005, 1:07 AM
very nice

BIG REDD
08-31-2005, 5:40 AM
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE FISH I GOT FROM THIS SPAWNING ARE DOING VERY WELL AND HAVE ADJUSTED TO THE NEW SETTING. ILL POST IPCS WHEN I GET THEM . THEESE SHOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE GROW. :clap

mon
08-31-2005, 6:22 AM
nice set up...

BIG REDD
09-04-2005, 10:54 PM
THE FISH THAT WERE SENT TO ME ARE DOING GREAT AND PICS WILL BE POSTED THIS WEEK. JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS AGAIN.

dom07
09-05-2005, 1:56 AM
congra bro.....

armac
10-16-2005, 3:47 PM
THE FISH THAT WERE SENT TO ME ARE DOING GREAT AND PICS WILL BE POSTED THIS WEEK. JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS AGAIN.

How are your fish doing, mone are starting to color up a little, I lost one to fighting, I still have 5:grinyes:

twk1
10-17-2005, 4:34 AM
You got a GREAT collection of fishes ANYTHINGFISH!

BIG REDD
10-18-2005, 2:49 PM
theyre doing well. i separated one to my community tank, and have the others in another tank. at 3 1/2 inches, they are still grey, but taking a nice shape. i want one with a golfball head

papillon
10-19-2005, 6:57 AM
bro anythingfish what strain of fh do you have? i mean the parents of your frys you posted

warren126
10-19-2005, 9:14 AM
Nice setup on your 2400 just want to know how long did it take you to build it and I notice that you ave a clown knife how big is he and what do you feed your crew

Anythingfish
10-19-2005, 5:29 PM
The construction of my 2400 gallon large aquarium tank, measuring 12 ft. by 8 ft. by 4 ft. deep, took about a month to complete. The cost then, in the spring of 2003, was about $1,500 including the ˝”thick plate glass window and all pipe fittings. Nearly everything was purchased from Home Depot. Not included in the $1,500 mentioned above is the cost of 2 Hagen Laguna Power Jet 7000 series water pumps circulating about 3,000 gallons per hour total, one Tetra DW-96-2 air pump and 50 gallons of bio mass.

This is a photo of: My 2400 gallon outdoor tropical fish aquarium tank and backyard Koi pond:
http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/2400_Pond6006.jpg

This is a night view photo of my outdoor 2400 gallon heated aquarium where I keep all my jumbo fish, any big fish over 24 inches:
http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/2400_Night1939.jpg
The Clown Knife Fish, in the next photo, were about 20 inches long when I got them 4 years ago and have grown to about 25 inches. The prior owners felt compelled to feed their Clown Knife Fish live goldfish; the cost and frequent trips to the local fish store became too much of an effort so they gave them to me. I had to tough it out for about 2 weeks before they took non-live food. During the first week I had them one tried to eat a 10 inch long Jaguar Managuense Cichlid. After a few minutes of struggle the Clown Knife Fish let go his intended dinner. The Clown Knife Fish eat almost anything now including Bar-S Jumbo Franks, their chicken pork beef variety hot dogs. They also eat Silver Cup trout chow both floating and sinking types and shrimp when I can purchase it at a discount in the local market. I have been waiting to put them in my 2400 gallon aquarium until they were big enough to avoid being eaten by my very carnivorous 36” Redtail Catfish.

This is a photo of: my Clown Knife fish in the 180 gallon aquarium:
http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/180Community3330.jpg

This is a photo of: the male Flowerhorn chasing all his tank mates into the opposite end of the 180 gallon and aquarium away from the pot full of eggs.
http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/Boss_Flowerhorn2559.jpg

This is a photo of: my big Redtail Catfish, about 36 inches long, in the 2400 gallon aquarium. This jumbo Redtail Catfish can swallow most any fish up to 18”, it just takes all day to get it down and 3 to 4 days to digest at which time he will be looking for food again:
http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/2400Redtail1109.jpg
Tour our AnythingFish hobby website, hundreds of tropical fish and aquarium construction photos, 2400 gallon outdoor aquarium, filters and filtration issues, 2,000 gallon concrete aquarium in the basement with 30” stingrays, Pacu, Tiger Shovelnose Catfish, Redtail Catfish, Arowana, Marbled Sailfin, Stingrays, African Lungfish and other jumbo aquarium fish, back yard Koi pond:
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The TRUST
10-19-2005, 5:38 PM
pics look great Ted!

bluedempsey
10-19-2005, 5:50 PM
insanity :eek: :drool:

Caveman
10-19-2005, 5:57 PM
Wow! That is impressive. What is a heating bill like for that outdoor tank?

Anythingfish
10-19-2005, 6:21 PM
Wow! That is impressive. What is a heating bill like for that outdoor tank?
I am running 4 each 500 watt titanium heaters on a Goldline thermostat rated for 2,000 watts from: http://www.jehmco.com. In the Seattle Washington area the average winter temperature is 35 to 45 degrees. The 2400 gallon aquarium is insulated on all sides with 2" thick John's Manville foam sheets. The heat is on for an average of 1-2 hours twice a day. When the wind is blowing I double that. In other words 3 hours a day = 6,000 watts or 6 KW @ local power rate of $.085 per KW so the daily cost averages $.50 or a bit more per day. If I open the lid to work on the aquarium the heat is on almost constantly. When I do a water change about 1000 gallons at a time I switch on 2 water heater elements in the sump which together run 10,000 watts. They can keep up with the incoming tap water flowing at about 300 gallons per hour at a temperature averaging 40 degrees. The nice thing is that during the summer months, May-September it requires little or no heat, in fact must be cooled on really warm days.

andrejnr
03-27-2007, 4:48 AM
I am running 4 each 500 watt titanium heaters on a Goldline thermostat rated for 2,000 watts from: http://www.jehmco.com. In the Seattle Washington area the average winter temperature is 35 to 45 degrees. The 2400 gallon aquarium is insulated on all sides with 2" thick John's Manville foam sheets. The heat is on for an average of 1-2 hours twice a day. When the wind is blowing I double that. In other words 3 hours a day = 6,000 watts or 6 KW @ local power rate of $.085 per KW so the daily cost averages $.50 or a bit more per day. If I open the lid to work on the aquarium the heat is on almost constantly. When I do a water change about 1000 gallons at a time I switch on 2 water heater elements in the sump which together run 10,000 watts. They can keep up with the incoming tap water flowing at about 300 gallons per hour at a temperature averaging 40 degrees. The nice thing is that during the summer months, May-September it requires little or no heat, in fact must be cooled on really warm days.




Couldn't you get a solar panel sistem possably using a water deposit and a solenoid electric valve to heat upa your aquarium?

armac
03-27-2007, 6:16 AM
Always nice to bump a thread from 2005

Anythingfish
03-27-2007, 10:11 AM
Couldn't you get a solar panel sistem possably using a water deposit and a solenoid electric valve to heat upa your aquarium

We have plenty of sun and heat in the summer; it is the dark rainy winter days that bump the electricity expense. Who knows how to setup a SOLAR PANEL in the Pacific Northwest and do we have enough winter sun to make it cost effective?

I have just started construction on my 8,000-gallon outdoor heated aquarium for adopted orphaned tropical fish and really need a solar panel energy saver. The Aquarium tank will be 16 feet long by 12 feet wide by 6 feet high with a 4 foot by 8 foot by 1-1/2" thick cell cast acrylic window.

andrejnr
03-27-2007, 10:24 AM
Well apart from a solar panel the only other thing I can think of that might save you electricity in heating wold be some sort of greenhouse bilt aroud the aquarium.

Anythingfish
03-27-2007, 11:05 AM
Well apart from a solar panel the only other thing I can think of that might save you electricity in heating wold be some sort of greenhouse bilt aroud the aquarium.

I do have tempered glass panels over the top of the tank, which absorbs a lot of heat on sunny days. On dark days, I cover the glass with Styrofoam and a heavy tarp to reduce heat loss.

This is a photo of my Flowerhorn fry at nearly two years of age. About 300 fish were shipped around the US to various fish dealers and other interested persons... They go by the name Cichlasoma Griffini.

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/Cichlasoma Griffini 3180.jpg

andrejnr
03-27-2007, 11:43 AM
that FH looks great. I've never seen one "live and in colour" since in Portugal theyre very hard to come by...

calahan0234
06-28-2008, 1:10 AM
My flowerhorn just hatched couple ago. Do I need to take the parants out or keep it in the tank. If keep in the tank then how long do I keep it in and what kind of feed to I need to feed the fries. Please help thanks.:).

gregkarr09
02-16-2009, 12:48 AM
nice

wickedpayara
11-27-2010, 10:01 AM
hey u should order some bag buddies from jungle labs. They work great. Just drop 1 tablet in the bag n send them on their way. it helps to calm them and has water conditioners. Good luck and let me knw if u need any more help
Put me down for a trial shipment....and I don't mind paying for the shipping....I would recomend using overnight...but it's your call.

Don't forget to use something to netualize the amonia, a sponge does a great job and don't feed the guys 1 day before shipping....3 days for larger fish. O2 does a good job also. 1 part water 3 parts air.

I know that you prob know all this but never hurts to remind people.

Thanks. Repair

wickedpayara
11-27-2010, 10:09 AM
Hi guys, i have a beautiful red dragon male that has succesfully bred with my female kamfa. Both fish have nice nuchal humps and are very good parents. The fry should turn out to be some nice fish. They will be available to ship around the second week in december. I will sell them for 10 dollars each. My male is very aggressive and likes to flail out his gills. Hes great with the ladies but will kill another male fish of any species. He has nice chinese symbols around his eyes. the mother is an electic green and blue on a red background.

romeo420
09-23-2011, 8:02 PM
Anythingfish i will take some of those fry up in new york. just started my own breeding adventure with thai silk flowerhorns. if you could send some of yours my way ill send some of mine your way my friend. i had my first batch about a week ago and so far so good. message me for pics (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/member.php?12-Anythingfish)
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ravio11i
09-30-2011, 4:02 PM
Holy Zombie thread Batman!!!

CaRONG
10-02-2011, 4:48 AM
Sorry if I'm repeating anything but is that Jardini in your tank?

Jimmy16
10-02-2011, 5:05 AM
Holy Zombie thread Batman!!!

+1

mariashark
10-02-2011, 7:48 PM
MISSING FLOWERHORN PHOTOS NOW READY

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn fry in the 120 gallon tank

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/FlowerhornFry120-6714.jpg

This is a photo of the Flowerhorn with fry in the 180 gallon community tank.

http://www.anythingfish.com/teds_posted_fish_photos/Flowerhorn180-6768.jpg

This is a link to: Ted's fish photos
http://anythingfish.com/images/Ted/PhotoGallery/TedsMasterIndex.htm
nice fish. Are you selling and willing to ship?

izzy_here
10-28-2011, 6:12 PM
apparently only a few people know this thread is from 2005? Holy night of the living thread, all we need now is anythingfish to show up with some fry for the man^

ndibacco
11-30-2011, 10:36 AM
I just bought a 55 gal and wanted to stock with fish. I had phiranand start with Flower Horns. I searched online but prices seem pretty high. I found like at least 10 different kinds of flowerhorns. Which flowerhorn is the best? I saw a blue diamond flowerhorn and looked pretty awesome. How does it get it's head shape? I want to come home after school and take car of fish and watch them grow and make babies. I heard I should run a tank for a few weeks before I stock the tank with fish, is that right? If anyone who is interested in shipping baby fry can you email me please at deebaccs@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Nick

Lusus_Naturae
11-30-2011, 11:33 AM
The zombie thread continues to haunt the forum...

For flowerhorn info try here - http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?253-Flowerhorn-and-Other-Cichlid-Crosses

jdmtech1
12-05-2011, 3:37 PM
i would like to try a trail shippment. let me know thank