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rayman45
06-28-2005, 2:48 PM
can they go together is same size?
around 8-12 inches
DanDanUK
06-28-2005, 3:24 PM
What are Mata Mata and an Ast ??? Explain please :feedback:
rayman45
06-28-2005, 3:28 PM
im waithing to buy this snapper of neo.
and i would like to get a mata mata also
rayman45
06-28-2005, 3:31 PM
that is an alligator snapping turtle (ast)
this is a mata mata
http://markmlucas.com/images/turtles/mata%20mata%2021.JPG
DanDanUK
06-28-2005, 3:32 PM
Ah looks like it's one mean mother f****r. But nice all the more hope it works out for you.
DanDanUK
06-28-2005, 3:35 PM
that is an alligator snapping turtle (ast)
this is a mata mata
http://markmlucas.com/images/turtles/mata%20mata%2021.JPG
Do turtle's live in fresh water or are ther conditions a bit brackish ??? i know nothing about turtles but i find anything to do with animals quite interesting. :)
Oddball
06-28-2005, 4:02 PM
WHY???!!! Why would you want to even try. If you asked about it, the possibility was already in your mind that this might be a bad idea. All that's needed is for the AST to "accidentally" bite the Mata mata while going after food. Result: Dead Mata mata. Those are two great turtles. Do them right and give them their own space.
I once had a 8" common snapping turtle bite the foot off a 12" red eared slider. mixing those two does not sound like a good idea. Great turtles, where did you get the Matamata? How much$?
TNReptile
06-28-2005, 5:29 PM
No, I would't give the gator snapper a chance, you might end up with a dead Mata, so if you like I'll gladly take the mata off your hands. :D
rayman45
06-28-2005, 6:20 PM
no i dont have the mata
i was just wondering b,c i seen a mata mata feeding video with an ast in theb ackround
ok i wont do
thanks
The TRUST
06-28-2005, 6:50 PM
I know the video your talking about and I Was very shocked myself to see them mixed. I guess you "can" mix them but not recomeneded that you do. The AST bite could easily kill the Mata Mata.
RockyGoldy
06-28-2005, 9:23 PM
Mata matas are such gentle darlings!!! I wouldn't even wan to have the heart to think that it is sharing the same space with the snapping!
rayman45
06-28-2005, 10:24 PM
i want a mata mata
any word on one small please pm me
and its not going with a ast
i just want one
RockyGoldy
06-28-2005, 10:34 PM
i want a mata mata
any word on one small please pm me
and its not going with a ast
i just want one
Yes..they are really awesome to look at during feeding...
aztecfred
07-05-2005, 3:38 PM
Hey dude,
Mixing REPTILES from diffrent families and different locales is a bad idea.
Heres why: Each one has diffrent needs, water temp requirements, space requirements, foo requirements.
Each one carries bacteria and viruses that are generally specific to that animal. when housed together, which causes stress...they can shed some of those bacteria and viruses into the water. And the "other" reptile, not being from the same area or haveing the same immunities...cam pick it up.
And it can kill them.
Typical example is somebody keeping their burmese python with their boa constrictor.
BIG MISTAKE.
Boas transmit a disease called I.B.D., supposedly by mites biting them and going on to a new host and biting the new host. Thereby spreading the disease
I.B.D. kills.
But boas can be asymptomatic carriers, meaning they can harbor the virus for years, and look great and grow, all the while giving it to snakes kept in the cage with them.
Like pythons...who get I.B. D.. and DIE from it very VERY QUICKLY.
Red Eared Sliders transmit all kind of stuff to other turtles, and they live while the other turtles die.
So, bad idea to mix turtle species, esp ones from diffrent families entirely.
Aside form that...the snapper could easily end the matas life with one good bite. Not worth it.
Mata Matas are very cool. If you go on kingsnake.com and check the turtle classifeds you can occasionally see babies for sale. Nice ones. Babies are a gamlbe as they dont always thrive and eat. Best to get ones that have been in a collection for a little while and are 5-6 inches in length..they do better.
A.S.T. are awesome. Truly.
Best of luck hope, this helps,
Aztec Fred
P.S.
I.B.D. is also thought to be genetic in nature, they are studying it as we speak. All I know is...it is hella wicked disease.
rayman45
07-05-2005, 4:00 PM
;)
shovelnose
07-06-2005, 9:30 PM
where r u gonna get the matamata i think they're pretty tough to get :feedback:
rayman45
07-06-2005, 9:32 PM
got a few comming
gunna sell all but 1 or 2
shovelnose
07-06-2005, 9:36 PM
:drool: :drool: :drool:
rayman45
07-06-2005, 9:37 PM
yup
will post when i get
mrsrobertson
07-10-2005, 9:16 AM
Hey dude,
Mixing REPTILES from diffrent families and different locales is a bad idea.
Heres why: Each one has diffrent needs, water temp requirements, space requirements, foo requirements.
Each one carries bacteria and viruses that are generally specific to that animal. when housed together, which causes stress...they can shed some of those bacteria and viruses into the water. And the "other" reptile, not being from the same area or haveing the same immunities...cam pick it up.
And it can kill them.
Typical example is somebody keeping their burmese python with their boa constrictor.
BIG MISTAKE.
Boas transmit a disease called I.B.D., supposedly by mites biting them and going on to a new host and biting the new host. Thereby spreading the disease
I.B.D. kills.
But boas can be asymptomatic carriers, meaning they can harbor the virus for years, and look great and grow, all the while giving it to snakes kept in the cage with them.
Like pythons...who get I.B. D.. and DIE from it very VERY QUICKLY.
Red Eared Sliders transmit all kind of stuff to other turtles, and they live while the other turtles die.
So, bad idea to mix turtle species, esp ones from diffrent families entirely.
Aside form that...the snapper could easily end the matas life with one good bite. Not worth it.
Mata Matas are very cool. If you go on kingsnake.com and check the turtle classifeds you can occasionally see babies for sale. Nice ones. Babies are a gamlbe as they dont always thrive and eat. Best to get ones that have been in a collection for a little while and are 5-6 inches in length..they do better.
A.S.T. are awesome. Truly.
Best of luck hope, this helps,
Aztec Fred
P.S.
I.B.D. is also thought to be genetic in nature, they are studying it as we speak. All I know is...it is hella wicked disease.
Isn't this kind of how AIDS started. But AIDS started with monkeys..lol
fishnthings
07-15-2005, 11:09 AM
i plan on gettin a matamat too. : )