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Natural_Born_Killer
08-06-2009, 12:33 PM
just had a look at my tank and noticed that one of my albinos oscars eyes seems to be bleeding internally.
any ideas what to do?
should i be worried??
Natural_Born_Killer
08-06-2009, 1:29 PM
any advice? anyone?
in the middle of doing a mega water change to hopefully sort it out...
BPags52
08-06-2009, 2:18 PM
I'm no expert but I think salt might help? Or maybe melafix...probably best to do a few smaller (25%) water changes over the next few days after you finish the big one today.
I'm mostly just replying to bump this though, my advice could very well be more harmful than helpful...I don't know.
Goodluck.
yogurt_21
08-06-2009, 2:23 PM
any pics? did the oscar run into something?
typically most surface wounds on my oscars heal quite quickly on their own but if you think the eye is bad you should probablly seperate it to prevent further aggrivatiosn from other fish.
I don't know if melafix will help with an eye injury but i don't think it will hurt. and your wc should help.
keep us posted.
Natural_Born_Killer
08-06-2009, 3:22 PM
just finished doing a roughly 70% wc.
don't have any photos of the injury, my fish aren't seeming very keen to be photographed at the moment.
not entirely sure how he/she got the injury, seems a bit of a mystery as i don't think he/she ran into anything.
just looks like a bursted blood vessel in the eye (similar to the ones us humans get actually).
he/she seems quite quiet at the moment just sorta chilling at the bottom. the only thing that has me worried is that he/she seems to breathing a bit more heavily than normal. mouth is sort of gasping a bit...
i'd seperate but he's about 6inches and all i've got set up in a 14g which doesn't seem very fair on him.
Natural_Born_Killer
08-06-2009, 3:30 PM
ok, latest update...
discovered that the agro level between the two has gone a bit over the top so i had no choice to separate the smaller O to the 14g.
jasoncambs
08-06-2009, 3:37 PM
oscars can be real nice one day and turn nasty in a instant ,, more likly a fight injury that will heal in time ,
Natural_Born_Killer
08-06-2009, 3:51 PM
Thanks :)
he's in the 14g for now... know its tiny but its better than him being beaten on... thinking of taking one of the two away as the fighting isn't getting better so figure it might just be best.
i'll give his eye some time to recover then make the decision....
Natural_Born_Killer
08-07-2009, 2:09 AM
Overnight now, found the oscar this morning still sunk at the bottom of the 14g (which is amusing my convicts I must say) breathing still looks quite heavy.
Should I add salt or should I just leave him be?
Natural_Born_Killer
08-07-2009, 3:12 AM
Any ideas what would be best to do?
BPags52
08-07-2009, 8:24 AM
Salt might help, but, I want to make it clear that I don't know what I'm talking about ;). If its breathing heavy probably a good idea to add an airstone to the tank.
Natural_Born_Killer
08-07-2009, 9:02 AM
There are already two quite long airstones in the 14g.
Seems baffling to me...
BPags52
08-07-2009, 9:13 AM
Well I can't explain the heavy breathing, the airstones you already have in there should be plenty.
but something that just crossed my mind, is that I see alot of MFKers say their oscars will "sulk" for a few days if they change around their decor or move tanks/etc. So this might possibly account for it just sitting at the bottom "sulking", but it breathing heavy makes me think it might be something else.
I wish I could help!!!
Bump for some more suggestions.
esparonisproud
08-09-2009, 1:38 PM
pics would be good, theres an oscar ive seen who has a bad eye becaquse of sum parassite when he was younger the owner healed it and now its doing fine apart from the eye being blind ofcourse, how big is it picof its old tank ect.. any sharp edged decorations in the old tank"??
yogurt_21
08-10-2009, 11:04 AM
he might just be sulking either about the injury or the change in environment. I know tiny my female sulked for a while after we got her. she was 5" at the time and was queen of her tank at the lfs. took her home to the beast who was 8" at the time and she was no longer queen, so she sulked about it.
the injury may be sybolizing a changign of the guard and your O may not like it.
keep monitoring and keep the parameters good, once the eye starts to heal put her/him back into the main tank.
Stephaan
08-10-2009, 11:22 AM
[QUOTE=Natural_Born_Killer;3343415;]just finished doing a roughly 70% wc.
don't have any photos of the injury, my fish aren't seeming very keen to be photographed at the moment.
not entirely sure how he/she got the injury, seems a bit of a mystery as i don't think he/she ran into anything.
just looks like a bursted blood vessel in the eye (similar to the ones us humans get actually).
he/she seems quite quiet at the moment just sorta chilling at the bottom. the only thing that has me worried is that he/she seems to breathing a bit more heavily than normal. mouth is sort of gasping a bit...
I had two 2inch oscars in a 30 gallon with two other cichlids and a giant gourami, they were doing just fine until one fine day i find them all beaten up in the mornin (I loved these guys!:( ). Pretty sure it was that freak cichlid I have in the tank (no one on MFK has been able to identify it so far).
Anyways, one oscar dies towards the afternoon and now i'm left with one that has pretty much the same condition as yours, it has a white covering over one of his eyes and it's been there for about 2 weeks now, I've just separated him and put him in a small tank where he won't sustain any more injuries. hopefully he'll be better or has he gone blind? If so, is it for life?
TwistedPenguin
08-10-2009, 2:27 PM
I bet he's just stressed to the max being put into such a tiny tank with the Convicts. The worst thing you can do right now it to start salting and melafixing him. Just do extra water changes. He probably isn't going to perk up in that tank.
Natural_Born_Killer
08-11-2009, 4:03 AM
Thank you all above for your replies...
Sadly to report I came home last night to find him dead in tank...
Was really sad to find him gone, but just glad he is out of his misery.
He was buried behind my flat near a canal...
Rayshot1
08-11-2009, 4:16 AM
Qucik question..did it look like a white layer over the eye like he could barely see???also did he eat any feeders?
Natural_Born_Killer
08-11-2009, 5:14 AM
Qucik question..did it look like a white layer over the eye like he could barely see???also did he eat any feeders?
No problem...
He had eaten no feeders... basically has been fed Hikari pellets, some frozen food from time, etc. Think the last time he had feeders was earlier this year.
His eye didn't have a white layer over it, just looked like it had a ruptured vein or something.
His condition basically was that he was sunk at the bottom, no visible fighting marks, cuts, or anything like that. He looked like a healthy fish besides the eye to be honest. Then he started to gasp for air, that seemed to go down after a few days then he died.
filenamee
08-11-2009, 10:57 AM
He will be stress if you move him. Stress is the worst thing.
In my opinion you should try melafix and waiting 2-3 days
Rayshot1
08-12-2009, 3:35 AM
Oh Also Sorry for ur loss NBK..
Natural_Born_Killer
08-12-2009, 3:51 AM
Thanks, I am just glad that he's out of his misery...
Twicksisted
08-12-2009, 4:13 AM
Very sorry to hear he died, you did your best for the little guy and its just very unlucky!
Ive found with oscars that when you move them to a new tank they will generally sulk and lie at the bottom of the tank for a while breathing deeply... pretty much all the oscars ive had over the years do this when moved to a new tank and its most likely stress related.
Dying I can only guess was due to some sort of internal damage he took to get his eye like in that state. If there was internal bleeding or a hemorrhage of some sort that could be the culprit, but I seriously doubt it was due to you putting it in that 14G, if anything that wouldve helped him calm down a bit.
Natural_Born_Killer
08-12-2009, 4:21 AM
^ Thank you...
I'm glad to hear that ...
Drew'n'Kylene
08-12-2009, 4:47 AM
80 degrees melafix and as little light as possible and pray or hope if y