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Hi,
i went to our local museum today to check out the restructured Aquarium-section...
They had a tank with three nice 20 inch P. ornatipinnis. I thought this could be interessting for you also...
and some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_8Nzg93Uzg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9bZB6G0cSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy6ARBj6mTk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx1df6kk9Is
Diskboy12
09-20-2009, 3:59 PM
I'd take those Ornatess....I have wanted some for sooooo long!
Kevin
very nice ornate and great color
Damn, can't wait for mine to become monsters like those!
benzjamin13
09-20-2009, 10:33 PM
Very nice
Hello,
sometimes the world seems to be a very small village!
I do know the museum very well and visited it last year - also packed with my camera to do shoots of these beautiful ornates i knew from former visits. Normally i'm a bit shy to post pics in other people threads belonging to visible but in this case i HAVE TO. It will round up all the beautiful shots also shown here a will get us a imagination of the special beauty of one of the most beautiful bichirs ever: Polypterus ornatipinnis!
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff123/fup/Polypterus%20ornatipinnis/orni15.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff123/fup/Polypterus%20ornatipinnis/orni13.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff123/fup/Polypterus%20ornatipinnis/orni14.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff123/fup/Polypterus%20ornatipinnis/orni12.jpg
Hey Uwe,
sometimes the world seems to be a very small village!
Oh yes it is! ;)
Have you seen the big Mastacembelus erythrotaenia? It must be about 70cm long and at least 15cm high, i have never seen such a huge one. It was by far the vistors favorit...
It doesnt really fit in this forum, but i think it is worth beeing shown:
(Look how big it is compared with the turtle...)
indiana.dutton
09-22-2009, 8:29 AM
Lookin good!
peewee
09-22-2009, 8:55 AM
that might take a long time for our ornates to grow that big.
that might take a long time for our ornates to grow that big.
Of course, they must be pretty old! I guess over ten years, more like twenty. I know some p. ornatipinnis with 24 inches that are 35 Years old (@Uwe: die von Matsl).
The ornates will grow pretty fast up to 15 inches an then they slow down.
wyldKard
09-30-2009, 9:58 AM
look at the girth of those monsters! mine's around 3 years old and measuring at 18" but he's slimmer... :nilly:
Hello wyldKard,
i do know the ornates shown her very well - i'm living half an hour away from them. I'd spoken with the people working there several times aund i think i know why these ornates are so big . not only in lenght ...
There are also other fish in this tank: On the one side these 3 ornates, on the other side one Synodontis and ... some relative little Hemichromis. This cichlids are food in my eyes. Self-breeding food. I asked about and got no answer ... hm, the character of answer sometimes is the silence that is clearer than thousand words, without misunderstanding by words choosen in a wrong way. The truth is beyond the words, it's in the eyes of the one you speak with.
Okay, the bloats in the bellies of the ornates are not psychological, they are ... cichlids. It's a bit hard to say but for my experience cichlids are the most beloved food for ornates! They will ignore everything up to the last cichlid eaten!!! Ornates also tend to grow quicker in such a situation.
Maybe some cichlid keepers will not like me anymore :-( but this is the reality of special ornate behaviour - i only want to document it and to warn!!! It's not a good idea to keep them together. One-side-fun. There are so much other food items ... and ornates will grow in every other food situation also well!
Last not least: If an ornate kills a Jack Dempsey that is much more than half the size of the ornate this is a real cruel scenery! Much more brutal than other predatory attempts i've seen in my life during watching the nature or even watching documentary-oriented TV. This is the knife edge between loving and caring animals ... and doing vice versa. Due to my life situation i cannot accept this anymore for me.
Greetings
Uwe
uting
10-04-2009, 10:22 PM
nice. How big was tank??
rojowe
10-06-2009, 9:47 PM
My LFS has an Ornate that is like 23'' for sale for $200...I would own if were I not in University
ClownKnife28
10-06-2009, 10:03 PM
Hello wyldKard,
i do know the ornates shown her very well - i'm living half an hour away from them. I'd spoken with the people working there several times aund i think i know why these ornates are so big . not only in lenght ...
There are also other fish in this tank: On the one side these 3 ornates, on the other side one Synodontis and ... some relative little Hemichromis. This cichlids are food in my eyes. Self-breeding food. I asked about and got no answer ... hm, the character of answer sometimes is the silence that is clearer than thousand words, without misunderstanding by words choosen in a wrong way. The truth is beyond the words, it's in the eyes of the one you speak with.
Okay, the bloats in the bellies of the ornates are not psychological, they are ... cichlids. It's a bit hard to say but for my experience cichlids are the most beloved food for ornates! They will ignore everything up to the last cichlid eaten!!! Ornates also tend to grow quicker in such a situation.
Maybe some cichlid keepers will not like me anymore :-( but this is the reality of special ornate behaviour - i only want to document it and to warn!!! It's not a good idea to keep them together. One-side-fun. There are so much other food items ... and ornates will grow in every other food situation also well!
Last not least: If an ornate kills a Jack Dempsey that is much more than half the size of the ornate this is a real cruel scenery! Much more brutal than other predatory attempts i've seen in my life during watching the nature or even watching documentary-oriented TV. This is the knife edge between loving and caring animals ... and doing vice versa. Due to my life situation i cannot accept this anymore for me.
Greetings
Uwe
So severums, oscars and blood red parrots cannot live with ornate bichirs long term? How about a black ghost knife fish? I have heard different things on this, I want your opinion.