white spot disease BUT

[Hesh69]

i hv 60 galoon tank with 4 blue acaras,2 hornet tilapias,1 texas chiclid,2 scats
white spots r only appeared in 4 blue acaras.Others r acting weird!!!.. nywz without ny reference i added salt last night..not a big amount though!... if i do the 2teaspoons per galoon salt treatment will it be too much of salt for my fishies? they look stressed :screwy:

[bansheenoy]

its probley ike

[Hesh69]

bump!

[sushiray]

I recommend a combo treatment

salt (1 tsp/gal) + raise temps + use Rid-Ich

I had a case run thru my discus tank, salt + higher temps no results so I added Rid-Ich. In 5days they disappeared & treated for 5more days to be sure.

I also made mistake to trf a baby koi angel to my angel tank (either it was a carrier but more likely it was from the water being trf) & one angel caught within 24hrs.

so I duplicated same treatment & successful 2nd time.

www.kensfish.com has great prices/selection/lowe shipping costs.

good luck.

[Hesh69]

I recommend a combo treatment

salt (1 tsp/gal) + raise temps + use Rid-Ich

I had a case run thru my discus tank, salt + higher temps no results so I added Rid-Ich. In 5days they disappeared & treated for 5more days to be sure.

I also made mistake to trf a baby koi angel to my angel tank (either it was a carrier but more likely it was from the water being trf) & one angel caught within 24hrs.

so I duplicated same treatment & successful 2nd time.

www.kensfish.com has great prices/selection/lowe shipping costs.

good luck.

thanx bro...!!

[Hesh69]

2 of my fish died 2day...smn help me plz =(

[BPags52]

Follow Sushiray's advice.

Salt + increased temperature (86 fahrenheit if your fish can tolerate it), and meds are optional (rid-ich).

salt and increased temp are tried and true ways of taking out Ich.

[Nemesis]

1 tablespoon of salt for every 5 gallons of water. Gradually raise the temp up to 86 degrees. Make sure you have proper aeration. If you don't have an air stone just lower the water in your tank so that your filter will create more surface agitation. Reduce feeding to a minimum.

[Hesh69]

thnk u guys...but 3 fishies dided without ny symptoms..wtf?...and i hv no way of raising the temprtr bcz i dnt hv a heatr sigh!!! nything i can do abt this? plz i dnt wanna see them dyin =(

[Nemesis]

You need to get a heater asap.

Check this out for more info on ich. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2138158&postcount=2

[Hesh69]

You need to get a heater asap.

Check this out for more info on ich. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2138158&postcount=2

toot late bro..all of them R.I.P

[Nemesis]

Damn. Sorry to hear that man. Make sure you buy a heater before getting anymore fish. Fluctuation in the temp from you not having a heater could have very well caused your fish to be vulnerable to ich.

[jackdempsey]

it is ike add salt like they say

[knifegill]

Who is Ike?

[Lupin]

I do not think you are dealing with ich alone. There could be a mixed infestation if your fish died with no visible symptoms. Ich normally does not kill a fish that quickly. They can if the fish is already severely stressed but a perfectly healthy fish should not die that quickly.

If a fish dies with no visible symptoms, what you need to do is check your water parameters between your tap water and tank water. Compare the results especially temperature, KH, GH, pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. When you do, make sure you are using a rather reliable and accurate test kit as misleading results can be disastrous if you choose to follow them believing the results are accurate. In this case, I would recommend API liquid drops. Check the date before purchasing a new test kit.

You didn't elaborate how you treated your fish. May I ask whose advice you followed and what did you do? Was the salt added almost immediately in one go only? Was the salt added in small time intervals? What salt did you use? Aquarium salt or table salt will not kill your fish that quickly especially not when you administered it gradually. If you however added the salt per full tank volume in one go, then they must have suffered osmotic shock due to the sudden surge of electrolytes by the salt. Salt must always be added slowly, not quickly.

[Hesh69]

I do not think you are dealing with ich alone. There could be a mixed infestation if your fish died with no visible symptoms. Ich normally does not kill a fish that quickly. They can if the fish is already severely stressed but a perfectly healthy fish should not die that quickly.

If a fish dies with no visible symptoms, what you need to do is check your water parameters between your tap water and tank water. Compare the results especially temperature, KH, GH, pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. When you do, make sure you are using a rather reliable and accurate test kit as misleading results can be disastrous if you choose to follow them believing the results are accurate. In this case, I would recommend API liquid drops. Check the date before purchasing a new test kit.

You didn't elaborate how you treated your fish. May I ask whose advice you followed and what did you do? Was the salt added almost immediately in one go only? Was the salt added in small time intervals? What salt did you use? Aquarium salt or table salt will not kill your fish that quickly especially not when you administered it gradually. If you however added the salt per full tank volume in one go, then they must have suffered osmotic shock due to the sudden surge of electrolytes by the salt. Salt must always be added slowly, not quickly.

My LFS told me to add salt and methalenblue.....salt wz added slowly..but i did not know abt 0.3% rule of salt back then..i used table salt! ONLY one fish survied The texas chiclid..he shows no symptoms no stress..he's ok!! is it ok if i add it to my pond?

[Hesh69]

Damn. Sorry to hear that man. Make sure you buy a heater before getting anymore fish. Fluctuation in the temp from you not having a heater could have very well caused your fish to be vulnerable to ich.

thanx man!! sigh but i had fish for 4 yrs without a heatr damn man..im fed up having fish now!!! fuk thy die without no reason

[Lupin]

Table salt is fine. There is no need to worry about its additives because that is much less concern compared to ich assuming you were indeed dealing with ich.

As for the methylene blue, this is one of the many treatments that is carcinogenic so handle it carefully. It is also one of the medicines that readily bind to organic matter thus its effects decrease and must be redosed every 24 hours. It is also dangerous to fish when overdosed and can also kill your beneficial bacteria. Did you check your water parameters yet? What are the results? What test kit did you use?

Needless to say, I think you used methylene blue unnecessarily upon the "advice" of your pet store. This may have actually killed your fish than the salt did. What was the dosage that you did? Medicines are simply last resorts if other options tried, did not work. Get the activated carbon to your filter and do a large water change to remove what is left of the methylene blue. Until you see unusual symptoms, stick to salt and do not add anything else to the tank.

[Hesh69]

Table salt is fine. There is no need to worry about its additives because that is much less concern compared to ich assuming you were indeed dealing with ich.

As for the methylene blue, this is one of the many treatments that is carcinogenic so handle it carefully. It is also one of the medicines that readily bind to organic matter thus its effects decrease and must be redosed every 24 hours. It is also dangerous to fish when overdosed and can also kill your beneficial bacteria. Did you check your water parameters yet? What are the results? What test kit did you use?

hey bro im srry i couldnt mention..i DONT hv a test kit :cry: :cry:

hey since there is no fish in the tank i must quarntine the tank ryt? wt shoudl i do with my filtr? it may contin harmfull jerms na? and the gravel?

[Lupin]

I'd get a test kit if I were you otherwise how are we going to know what caused your fish to die if they did not show any symptoms? Do you have a water company near your area? If so, have them get the results and if possible, ask if they test for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. If not, you need to invest in a test kit yourself which you can obtain in your pet stores. A master test kit by API can last you a year or two.

I edited my previous post for more addendum.:)

[Hesh69]

I'd get a test kit if I were you otherwise how are we going to know what caused your fish to die if they did not show any symptoms? Do you have a water company near your area? If so, have them get the results and if possible, ask if they test for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. If not, you need to invest in a test kit yourself which you can obtain in your pet stores. A master test kit by API can last you a year or two.

I edited my previous post for more addendum.:)

you rock dude..thanx for replyng me!!! yes i would invest for a test kit!!