View Full Version : Tiger Shovelnose crossed with Red Tail?
Demonfish
05-23-2006, 4:53 PM
Last night I was at my LFS looking around. My wife wanted a new betta. We picked one out, but before I left I wanted to look around a little more. I was just there Saturday, so I didn't expect to see anything to have changed... Low and behold a large tank full of 1.5" catfish that were labeled Jaguar-Red Tail Catfish at 15 bucks a piece. I talked to an employee and he said that they were hybids between a Tiger shovelnose and Red Tail cat. I am familiar with both those fish and was intrigued. I bout two of them. They have a red tail and white belly like a red tail cat, but their bodies are marked like a tiger shovelnose. The snouts don't appear to be as long as a normal Tiger shovelnose. They have the long flowing barbells that these fish share in common. I looked though my various fish encyclopedias thinking that they might be an actual species that just isn't seen much in the hobby. I couldn't find anything about it. So is this likely to be a legit cross between the two? I am very curious. These are very very nice looking fish. I'd post some pics, unfortunately I don't have the know how to do that yet. Maybe at some point I'll figure out a way to post a pic. Has anyone else come across this new "hybrid" yet?
BDawg364
05-23-2006, 5:00 PM
I wish I could label you a pioneer, but it has been done. There are a few threads, some with adult pics. Try searching tsc x rtc. If it wasn't too expensive, it would still be a good pickup.
benzjamin13
05-23-2006, 6:32 PM
Here's a couple of pics of my boy...
blairsteelers
05-23-2006, 6:44 PM
that's wicked
man, nice
buy.
rkc772
05-23-2006, 6:46 PM
i think the fish kingdom has some hybrids themselves.. somebody must have kept a male rtc and a female cat together... they justed loved each other way too much!:ROFL:
TankerSwife
05-23-2006, 6:59 PM
Last night I was at my LFS looking around. My wife wanted a new betta. We picked one out, but before I left I wanted to look around a little more. I was just there Saturday, so I didn't expect to see anything to have changed... Low and behold a large tank full of 1.5" catfish that were labeled Jaguar-Red Tail Catfish at 15 bucks a piece. I talked to an employee and he said that they were hybids between a Tiger shovelnose and Red Tail cat. I am familiar with both those fish and was intrigued. I bout two of them. They have a red tail and white belly like a red tail cat, but their bodies are marked like a tiger shovelnose. The snouts don't appear to be as long as a normal Tiger shovelnose. They have the long flowing barbells that these fish share in common. I looked though my various fish encyclopedias thinking that they might be an actual species that just isn't seen much in the hobby. I couldn't find anything about it. So is this likely to be a legit cross between the two? I am very curious. These are very very nice looking fish. I'd post some pics, unfortunately I don't have the know how to do that yet. Maybe at some point I'll figure out a way to post a pic. Has anyone else come across this new "hybrid" yet?
Here's mine, sorry the pic isnt that great. Its about 12-13".:headbang2 :woot:
SiestaSkyy
05-23-2006, 10:24 PM
those are some bad ass fish, i wish i could get one... it would get eatin though...
USMCtanker
05-23-2006, 10:29 PM
ya they will eat all ur fish, trust me, here is another pic sorry glass is so bad
awdawg
05-24-2006, 1:28 AM
Sweet fish guys, I have a marbled pim much like yours! the lil guy grows very rapidly! :-D
Demonfish
05-24-2006, 12:07 PM
Wow! Thanks for the quick replies. And those pics you guys posted... AMAZING!!! I can't wait until mine get a little size to them. They look like the tail colors intensify. So what am I looking at growth wise? An inch a month?
Daniel Machado
05-27-2006, 10:27 AM
Here are some pics of mine:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/DanielMachado/Peixes/Cachapira06.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/DanielMachado/Peixes/Cachapira12.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/DanielMachado/Peixes/Cachapira17.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/DanielMachado/Peixes/MVC-037S.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/DanielMachado/Peixes/MVC-264S.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/DanielMachado/Peixes/MVC-315S.jpg
Best regards.
Daniel.
Daniel Machado
05-27-2006, 10:31 AM
ya they will eat all ur fish, trust me, here is another pic sorry glass is so bad
:iagree: My RTC x TSN has eaten lots of fish, including some cichlids and a few plecos, even the SPINY ones. Some of my more expensive losses include a Paratilapia polleni, an electric blue JD, a sultan pleco and a mango pleco. :WHOA:
Best regards.
Daniel.
Dovii dude
05-30-2006, 1:02 PM
I had 1 they grow very quickly,eat a ton,you need a very large tank for 1.:WHOA:
Thats crazy. It really has 1/2 & 1/2. Really cool.
KillerKlover
05-30-2006, 3:57 PM
Man i want one but it would probely eat all my mubuna
necrocanis
06-02-2006, 11:06 PM
I feed mine like 1/2 lb. of jumbo prawn every other day and he grows about 1-2" per month and he is around 27" right now. I fully expect at this rate he will be over 3ft. within the next 1/2 year to year.
:iagree: My RTC x TSN has eaten lots of fish, including a sultan pleco and a mango pleco. :WHOA:
Best regards.
Daniel.
:eek: :swear:
cold_one
06-09-2006, 11:26 AM
I am glad I found this post. A good friend of mine owns a fish store and called me to come look at one of these fish. I have not seen one yet and cant look at the pictures yet. I am curious what could go in with one of these and what size tank they should have. He told me this one is about 7 inches long.
cold_one
06-09-2006, 11:28 AM
oops the pictures just came up. If it looks like that ill own it. sweet fish!.
big E
06-13-2006, 12:48 AM
These are great because I can have 2 of my favorite catfish in one! If it's availible at a good price and you have the space pick one of these up!
dapike1979
06-13-2006, 9:19 PM
They are true monsters!! Nice pic's people!!:thumbsup:
necrocanis
06-15-2006, 1:51 AM
hmmm, mine is approaching the 27" mark now. I wonder just how big these monsters can get. I think the biggest that I have heard of is 29" which would make mine the second largest that I have heard of. Just wondering if you guys have ever heard of any bigger than these, or have ever seen on bigger. If you have one please post some pics and a lil story about it for us. I think with hybrid vigor, and from the sizes of the parent species, these fish could definitely get over 4ft. in captivity. Just wondering how long they have been around and what's the biggest anyone has heard of.
ZOO YORK 207
06-19-2006, 8:23 PM
i bought one of these little cats about 2 weeks ago and he is awesome i got him for $30 or about 5" is that a good price or was i scammed?:confused:
necrocanis
06-20-2006, 2:46 AM
Sounds like a decent price to me. i wouldn't know the price of a small one. I got 4 big hybrids for around two hundred dollars i think, but I don't remember. Here's a pic of mine.
necrocanis
06-20-2006, 2:51 AM
hey zoo york, i was looking at your tank setup and it says you have a sexed pair of RTCs. Just wondering how you did it. I have never heard of anyone being able to sex them. Everyone allways just has speculation about it.
Thanks
ZOO YORK 207
06-20-2006, 4:03 PM
no im thinking one is a male and ones a female i was talking to people online and the guy said normally the females grow larger faster than males sorry about the mistake i will change it
stotty
06-20-2006, 4:05 PM
And my one got him at 4" he is now 18"
necrocanis
06-20-2006, 9:00 PM
stotty i am starting to think that the two of us show off our hybrids alot. glad to hear your's is growing nicely also. I wasn't trying to be an a$$ about the sexing of RTCs, just thought you had found a way to do it. :(
ZOO YORK 207
06-21-2006, 2:58 PM
its alright i jsut heard that females grow faster than males
Roy L.
06-21-2006, 3:13 PM
One of mine.. bad pic. must get a new camera :(
kendog1
05-16-2008, 1:49 PM
wow, you all have some awesome cats, i havent found any hybrids yet but looking for sure, thanks for sharing guys, alot of great pics
fishbreeder12
05-17-2008, 4:53 PM
ilove these fish ,theyre amasing
frasertheking
05-17-2008, 4:57 PM
they guys are easy to get ,there about a tenner online here easy to get because there used as a food fish i think so cheap to get .
dragonfish
05-17-2008, 5:04 PM
Here's another.
jhutch
05-17-2008, 5:23 PM
Nice pics people. Awesome cats for sure. When I build my log cabin with my monster tank(16'x16'x10') I will have some of them for sure.
fatcat
10-27-2008, 8:01 PM
I bought the same fish as a Jaguar or Lepard cat and yea he took a couple cichlids fairly quick.
fatcat
10-27-2008, 8:08 PM
I spent $40 on a 4" one, great fish, probably eaten another $40 in cichlids, but hey, at least they're not getting sick right?
marshdiesel
11-06-2008, 11:34 AM
I spent $40 on a 4" one, great fish, probably eaten another $40 in cichlids, but hey, at least they're not getting sick right?
im in the same boat as you, except hes eaten that much in cichlids + my 6" jardini arowana :(
time for him to get a job!