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fisher12889
06-02-2006, 7:23 PM
Has anyone here ever kept a tiger muskie or a regular muskie? Do you have any tips on keeping them? Also any pics of these fish in and aquarium?

DeLgAdO
06-02-2006, 7:29 PM
im gunna buy one for my dads pond when it gets filled

:)

i do know they need cool to cold water.

fisher12889
06-02-2006, 7:44 PM
Cool, there really neat fish and I want one for my aquarium

DeLgAdO
06-02-2006, 9:58 PM
Cool, there really neat fish and I want one for my aquarium

better think twice

how big is your tank?

Bassman89
06-03-2006, 1:10 AM
i was thinkin about raising some muskies in my tank as well. i have a 115 gallon tank...so yea any tips for raising them???

DeLgAdO
06-03-2006, 1:19 AM
i was thinkin about raising some muskies in my tank as well. i have a 115 gallon tank...so yea any tips for raising them???

dont bother

muskies get HUGE!!! were talking over 4 feet!!! and these guys are swimmers!

fisher12889
06-03-2006, 2:03 AM
I have a pond to put them in when they get bigger

Bassman89
06-03-2006, 2:11 AM
dont bother

muskies get HUGE!!! were talking over 4 feet!!! and these guys are swimmers!

ill just release them in the local reservoir when they get too big and plus i have a pond as well

fisher12889
06-03-2006, 2:40 AM
ill just release them in the local reservoir when they get too big and plus i have a pond as well
Im pretty sure thats illegal

DeLgAdO
06-03-2006, 2:21 PM
Im pretty sure thats illegal

it is illegal, and a threat to the local ecosystem

sandtiger
06-03-2006, 4:08 PM
Get a redfin or grass pickerel, just like a muskellunge but only grow to about a foot long. Letting fish go in the wild, even if that's where they once lived is NOT a good idea.

fisher12889
06-03-2006, 4:36 PM
Where could I get a pickeral? I dont think any lakes in colorado have them. I could still get the muskie and put them in my pond when they get too big for my 125 gallon.

ewurm
06-03-2006, 5:04 PM
ill just release them in the local reservoir when they get too big and plus i have a pond as well

Never, never, never release aquarium fish into the wild. It's not legal, and is ethically and morally objectionable.

fisher12889
06-03-2006, 5:34 PM
Never, never, never release aquarium fish into the wild. It's not legal, and is ethically and morally objectionable.
Especially with a fish with teeth like a muskie! lol

DeLgAdO
06-03-2006, 5:44 PM
Where could I get a pickeral? I dont think any lakes in colorado have them. I could still get the muskie and put them in my pond when they get too big for my 125 gallon.

well how big is the pond?

dimensions???

fisher12889
06-03-2006, 5:51 PM
Its close to 15' long and about 7' wide

DeLgAdO
06-03-2006, 7:04 PM
Its close to 15' long and about 7' wide


how deep?

sounds like a good dimension for a muskie

Bassman89
06-03-2006, 11:33 PM
you guys are right i shoudnt do that...what was i thinkin?? ill jus put them in my pond

rumblesushi
06-03-2006, 11:52 PM
I've always wanted a northern pike, or muskie or pickerel or anything from the esox species. It's a shame they are not in the aquarium trade.

fisher12889
06-04-2006, 1:10 AM
how deep?

sounds like a good dimension for a muskie
Its about 5' deep

Chad55
06-04-2006, 1:50 AM
I think youll be fine with a muskie in that pond as long as you keep a hole in the ice during the winter for gas exchange. I would only do one though. Or if you can get a male and female but not two of the same sex.

Chad

fisher12889
06-04-2006, 2:38 AM
I think youll be fine with a muskie in that pond as long as you keep a hole in the ice during the winter for gas exchange. I would only do one though. Or if you can get a male and female but not two of the same sex.

Chad
Why not 2 of the same sex? And how do I tell a male from a female?

lil_blue
06-04-2006, 3:48 PM
all esox species are territorial i believe, so 2 males or 2 females would fight to dominate

in the wild, they do not school, and are usually alone

fisher12889
06-04-2006, 7:00 PM
all esox species are territorial i believe, so 2 males or 2 females would fight to dominate

in the wild, they do not school, and are usually alone
If they're territorial, then it wouldnt matter if it was a male and a female because the only time the dominate one would let the other in its territory is during spawning, right?

Bassman89
06-04-2006, 8:08 PM
If they're territorial, then it wouldnt matter if it was a male and a female because the only time the dominate one would let the other in its territory is during spawning, right?

yes i believe thats true

fisher12889
06-05-2006, 3:08 AM
Come on guys, where are the pics! :confused:

Tucc185
06-30-2006, 7:48 PM
just got some baby tiger muskies in at work the other day, I'll post a pic real soon. Awesome little guys.

Bassman89
07-01-2006, 12:59 AM
just got some baby tiger muskies in at work the other day, I'll post a pic real soon. Awesome little guys.
..cant wait

ZOO YORK 207
07-01-2006, 10:05 PM
never seen tigers i have only seen jaguar muskie

fishyz
07-01-2006, 11:15 PM
I've always wanted a northern pike, or muskie or pickerel or anything from the esox species. It's a shame they are not in the aquarium trade.
They are you just need to know where to look try this place http://www.aquaculturestore.com/fwverts.html just scroll down alittle to find the pickerels. I'm going to get a 1 1/2-3" red fin from them when I set up my 150g tank in a few weeks (I hope).
never seen tigers i have only seen jaguar muskie
What do jaguar muskies look like?

Bassman89
07-02-2006, 1:42 AM
ive never heard of jaguar muskie before...

Scorponok
07-02-2006, 2:17 AM
Anywhere we can buy a tiger muskie via internet or from a seller/LFS that you know of???

Bassman89
07-02-2006, 3:01 AM
Anywhere we can buy a tiger muskie via internet or from a seller/LFS that you know of???

www.minnesotamuskiefarm.com

ZOO YORK 207
07-09-2006, 11:00 PM
They are you just need to know where to look try this place http://www.aquaculturestore.com/fwverts.html just scroll down alittle to find the pickerels. I'm going to get a 1 1/2-3" red fin from them when I set up my 150g tank in a few weeks (I hope).

What do jaguar muskies look like?

retarded when they are small

Bassman89
07-11-2006, 1:05 AM
retarded when they are small

do you have any pics

ZOO YORK 207
07-11-2006, 11:56 AM
nevermind my stupid lfs labeled it wrong and they didnt even know that they need cold water what idiots the guy was wondering why they keep dying so he moved them all witch was about 50 of them to a cold water tank

teeser7
07-11-2006, 1:30 PM
awesome

xEchOx
07-12-2006, 4:27 PM
So I am guessing that Jaguar muskies are the same as Tiger muskies, because I've never heard of a Jag Muskie either, and I live in MN. As far as I know there are four different phases of musky. Clear phase, Spotted phase, Barred phase, and Tiger or hybrid. All capable of reaching lengths up to 50in. I believe the world record stands at 70 lbs.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/fish/muskellunge/biology.html

Bassman89
07-13-2006, 12:40 AM
So I am guessing that Jaguar muskies are the same as Tiger muskies, because I've never heard of a Jag Muskie either, and I live in MN. As far as I know there are four different phases of musky. Clear phase, Spotted phase, Barred phase, and Tiger or hybrid. All capable of reaching lengths up to 50in. I believe the world record stands at 70 lbs.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/fish/muskellunge/biology.html

i love muskies

fisher12889
07-13-2006, 9:02 PM
There was a controversy recently about the world record muskie, someone that saw it said they angler put ice or lead in its stomache, but it turned out to be false lol. The "jaguar muskies" are most likely tigers or barred, either way the lfs messed up lol.

Bassman89
07-14-2006, 1:31 AM
There was a controversy recently about the world record muskie, someone that saw it said they angler put ice or lead in its stomache, but it turned out to be false lol. The "jaguar muskies" are most likely tigers or barred, either way the lfs messed up lol.
the lfs messed up??...hmmm what else is new lol:ROFL:

fisher12889
07-14-2006, 10:19 PM
Haha ya I know, that never happens....lol

meepster
07-14-2006, 11:21 PM
they grow up to 4 ft long and require a strong current. Now thats the ultimate MONSTER NATIVE. (well not really because sturgeons get 20 feet)

fisher12889
07-14-2006, 11:43 PM
Muskie dont need or like strong current.... they live in lakes and slow moving rivers. And Im pretty sturgeon dont get to 20', not even belugas, which are the monsters. They are massive fish though!

Bassman89
07-15-2006, 12:50 AM
they grow up to 4 ft long and require a strong current. Now thats the ultimate MONSTER NATIVE. (well not really because sturgeons get 20 feet)

sturgeon are awesome..id like to get one

simple man
07-16-2006, 2:35 AM
If Bassman releases it into a local reservoir that already stocks thousands, I don't think the impact would be too huge especially when its got to swim by turds in the water!!!!

Bassman89
07-16-2006, 2:47 AM
If Bassman releases it into a local reservoir that already stocks thousands, I don't think the impact would be too huge especially when its got to swim by turds in the water!!!!
yea thats illegal tho....plus i could maybe sell it for money

fisher12889
07-16-2006, 2:53 AM
If Bassman releases it into a local reservoir that already stocks thousands, I don't think the impact would be too huge especially when its got to swim by turds in the water!!!!
Its still not legal....Im not going to risk a huge fine over a fish. Me and him both have room in our ponds...

Bassman89
07-16-2006, 2:58 AM
Its still not legal....Im not going to risk a huge fine over a fish. Me and him both have room in our ponds...
HOORAY FOR MUSKIES!!!!

simple man
07-16-2006, 3:01 AM
yea until kuma falls in and the muskie has its self a snack

Bassman89
07-16-2006, 3:04 AM
yea until kuma falls in and the muskie has its self a snack
...or mom lol:ROFL:

simple man
07-16-2006, 3:05 AM
NOW THATS FUNNY

fisher12889
07-16-2006, 5:16 AM
They'll all be fine, none of them go by the pond lol

DIESELMACK
07-17-2006, 10:16 AM
I have a tiger muskie that is approx 4-5" baby purchased from a florida muskie farm(will get some pics up tonite)...also have grass pickerel....if you like muskie try getting a grass pickerel...a mini version of the giants and just as cool......by the way..do you know a tiger muskie is a cross breed between a muskie and a northern pike? just a lil info in case you didnt know. Here are a couple of the grass pickerel....

Caincando1
07-17-2006, 4:48 PM
I had a 6 inch tiger muskie years ago. I kept it in a 55. He got a parasite and took a couple months to get him over that. I though he was well on his way and I did a really stupid thing and dumped about 4 dozen feeders in the tank at once and the bio load killed him.(over night) I was young and stupid and didn't know any better and I feel bad. He was nearly a foot when he died. I'm not sure what I would have done with him if he'd have lived, I probably would have had to give him to one of my buddies with a 125.

fisher12889
07-17-2006, 10:42 PM
I know tigers are hybrids, they cant spawn so they are favored over regular muskie and pike here because their population can be controlled easier. Thats a sweet setup w/ the grass pickeral, cant wait to see pics of the tiger! I plan on feeding mine minnows I catch from local creeks and ponds, so I shouldnt have to worry about parsites.

Flyfisher
07-19-2006, 12:13 AM
Fisher i would rethink the whole muskie idea. A buddy of mine got a musky and had it in a 125. It was so cool he had it when it was about 4'' long and was the coolest fish. The fish grew like a weed and by the time he was a little over two feet in his pond he was eating non stop i have no idea how much it cost him but it was a lot. He eventually found a guy stocking his private lake with fish and asked him if he wanted it and the guy took it. I have no idea what your planning just be aware they are eating machines.

Flyfisher
07-19-2006, 1:00 AM
ill just release them in the local reservoir when they get too big and plus i have a pond as well

Bassman i have read some of your quotes since i read this one do you know anything about aquariums and fish or do you just use answers that come from someone who actually knows this stuff? Stop mimicing and trying to backtrack on retarded comments

JCA
07-19-2006, 1:30 AM
hey i have an idea! just get some northern pikeminnows instead! they dont get nearly as big! haha actually i wouldnt do that, those fish are nuisances! and they're nasty! but wow that grass pickerel makes me want to go coldwater!

fisher12889
07-19-2006, 1:38 AM
Bassman i have read some of your quotes since i read this one do you know anything about aquariums and fish or do you just use answers that come from someone who actually knows this stuff? Stop mimicing and trying to backtrack on retarded comments
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Hes kinda new to aquariums but hes learning quick, mostly from this website. But thats still funny lol

fisher12889
07-19-2006, 1:40 AM
Fisher i would rethink the whole muskie idea. A buddy of mine got a musky and had it in a 125. It was so cool he had it when it was about 4'' long and was the coolest fish. The fish grew like a weed and by the time he was a little over two feet in his pond he was eating non stop i have no idea how much it cost him but it was a lot. He eventually found a guy stocking his private lake with fish and asked him if he wanted it and the guy took it. I have no idea what your planning just be aware they are eating machines.
I know muskie get big and fast, but I have an unlimited supply of fathead minnows, crayfish, and sunfish to use as food.

Bassman89
07-19-2006, 1:48 AM
Bassman i have read some of your quotes since i read this one do you know anything about aquariums and fish or do you just use answers that come from someone who actually knows this stuff? Stop mimicing and trying to backtrack on retarded comments

.....i am new to aquariums and fishkeeping and im starting to get into it more and more (basically the whole reason of me joining this website) and almost all of my posts are from my own knowlede thank you very much

Flyfisher
07-19-2006, 11:19 AM
I know muskie get big and fast, but I have an unlimited supply of fathead minnows, crayfish, and sunfish to use as food.

Well then as long as you got it figured out then good luck... Just careful in the winter maybe get a breeder tank and start it now so you have plenty when it gets cold.

Flyfisher
07-20-2006, 12:30 AM
Hey Fisher, i thought you might want to hear about this. My friend who had the muskie in is pond had a duck nest nearby and when the chicks were old enough they went out onto the pond and apparently, according to him his muskie took out all three of the chicks in two days. Just thought it was good story.

Bassman89
07-20-2006, 12:35 AM
Hey Fisher, i thought you might want to hear about this. My friend who had the muskie in is pond had a duck nest nearby and when the chicks were old enough they went out onto the pond and apparently, according to him his muskie took out all three of the chicks in two days. Just thought it was good story.
lol my dad was tellin me a story about that one day...he was up fishin up north a few years ago and he was watchin this row of ducklings swim by and he turned his head and he heard a splash and when he turned around there was one less duckling lol

fisher12889
07-20-2006, 1:02 AM
Hey Fisher, i thought you might want to hear about this. My friend who had the muskie in is pond had a duck nest nearby and when the chicks were old enough they went out onto the pond and apparently, according to him his muskie took out all three of the chicks in two days. Just thought it was good story.
Ive heard several stories of that happening lol. Ive even heard of big muskies taking baby muskrats! The muskie would be going into my pond once it outgrows my tank, and I dont think Ill need to feed it during the winter.