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noreaster
06-06-2006, 8:42 PM
Ok,
I change my stock around a bit and got rid of my salmon, I went down to the river with a friend and caught a yellow perch and today two Pumpkin seeds.
At least I think they are so i'll post a picture and you can tell me.
The perch is already eating from my hand and ifyou dangle your fingers in he'll swim up and nab your finger.
the pumpkin seeds is that is what they are are as pretty as any fish, they glow when they are in the light.
stingray4540
06-06-2006, 8:53 PM
Ohhhh, why did you get rid of the salmon?
noreaster
06-06-2006, 8:57 PM
the salmon grew about 6 inches in the short time I had them.
They were also starting to bite my goldfish and sturgeon.
I never planned on keeping them anyway i just wanted something in my tank.
cichlid savage
06-06-2006, 9:15 PM
What did you do with the salmon. Grilled or broiled??:D
fishyz
06-06-2006, 9:46 PM
I love pumpkinseeds. Take a look at my pumpkin.
noreaster
06-06-2006, 9:55 PM
What did you do with the salmon. Grilled or broiled??:D
lol
noreaster
06-06-2006, 9:57 PM
I love pumpkinseeds. Take a look at my pumpkin.
Mine are very dark?
Maby not a pumpkinseed ??
they look similar to this
http://www.nps.gov/applications/nature/photos/CC%20Pumpkinseed%20Sunfish3.jpg
I'll get a few pictures soon.
noreaster
06-07-2006, 7:39 AM
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i120/Nor_Easter/100_1806.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i120/Nor_Easter/100_1808.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i120/Nor_Easter/100_1811.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i120/Nor_Easter/100_1813.jpg
How friendly the perch is, I've never actually seen a fish act like that other than an oscar.
http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i120/Nor_Easter/?action=view¤t=100_1814.flv
noreaster
06-07-2006, 9:24 AM
Any one know if these are pumpkinseeds ? or ?
ksiaquatics
06-07-2006, 9:39 AM
Yes, they are pumpkinseeds. This is a very widespread fish and there is quite a bit of regional variability.
How did you get rid of the salmon, by the way. I hope you didn't release them back into the wild population. Just curious.
noreaster
06-07-2006, 9:45 AM
There is a small lake near here with only small trout in it, so i threw the salmon in there , I figured when they grow up it'll make some nice fishing if i'm lucky they might even breed and i'll have an almost private fishing spot to myself .
noreaster
06-07-2006, 9:46 AM
I'm just kidding,, I killed them and fed them to my dog , she loves fish.
aquaking
06-07-2006, 11:05 AM
HAHA, Truly that was funny. Everyone is so critical! I have some baby natives that i'm growing out. At first i thought i had trout.... but the mouth looks like a bottom feeder. Carp babies are bigger than a guppy when born right? Never seen a baby carp before. They are clear though... and i can see the belly thats about it... very long and sleek looking
noreaster
06-07-2006, 11:33 AM
The pumpkin seeds are still a little shy but they have only been in there a day.
I like how the perch acts , but what a glutton!
ksiaquatics
06-07-2006, 4:43 PM
Not to preach about this and you can take it for what it's worth, but this is a really awful idea. In fact, ithe US it is actually illegal in most states. The introduction of any fish into a habitat that it is not native to can lead to many problems including species number and diversity loss and habitat degradation.
In addition, no fish that has been maintained in an aquarium should be released into a water way regardless of whether it came from there or not. There are several aquarium specific diseases, etc. that a wild fish can pick up while in an aquarium, then pass these on once it is released back into a wild population.
The only responsible things to do with these fish are to find a new home for them or euthanize them.
ksiaquatics
06-07-2006, 4:45 PM
Apparently, I was a bit speedy with the reply. Sorry. I would certainly expect the members of this board to already be familiar with such ethical practices. I hope your dog enjoyed them.
lhs123
06-07-2006, 5:03 PM
I have some large mouth in my tank which I could catch anytime pond right next to my house nice fish.
noreaster
06-07-2006, 5:33 PM
Apparently, I was a bit speedy with the reply. Sorry. I would certainly expect the members of this board to already be familiar with such ethical practices. I hope your dog enjoyed them.
Not at all It was just a question i was trying to be funny not sarcastic.
valid question
aquaking
06-07-2006, 7:03 PM
See what i mean Noreaster....... Gotta be careful.... lota weirdos around here.... lol
fishyz
06-08-2006, 4:34 PM
Mine is only 2" right now but I'm starting to lean twards a longear sunfish Lepomis meegalotis
noreaster
06-08-2006, 4:44 PM
Mine is only 2" right now but I'm starting to lean twards a longear sunfish Lepomis meegalotis
Your what is two inches ?
fishyz
06-08-2006, 4:53 PM
The sunfish.
noreaster
06-08-2006, 5:13 PM
The sunfish.
Before I started reading this site I would not have even considered keeping a native fish.
or that they may be a good looking fish.
the pumpkinseed and few other sunfish are as nice a looking fish as anywhere.
i am surprised they are not more popular in the aquarium trade.
Must be something to do with the legalities ??
fishyz
06-08-2006, 5:19 PM
I think it's because they're just to close to home. I plan on promoting keeping native whenever I can.
I'm just kidding,, I killed them and fed them to my dog , she loves fish.
Much better idea than releasing them.
Before I started reading this site I would not have even considered keeping a native fish.
or that they may be a good looking fish.
the pumpkinseed and few other sunfish are as nice a looking fish as anywhere.
i am surprised they are not more popular in the aquarium trade.
Must be something to do with the legalities ??
I wouldn't give up my natives or my tropicals, I love both. I like the natives because not many people have them, and they are free!
fishyz
06-09-2006, 12:30 PM
All native keepers should still try to get more people to keep natives.
focker
06-09-2006, 1:56 PM
ever catch bluegill or sunny and jam a bottle rocket in its mouth and throw it back in.:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
focker
06-09-2006, 1:57 PM
kidding dont all attack at once:headbang2
No but I had an uncle that would shove a chery bomb or M-80 into the throat of a carp and toss it back..., Blurp! He called it chumming. He hated carp.
lil_blue
06-09-2006, 4:35 PM
carp or any goldfish caught here must be killed and removed from the area immediately, we have so many, they have a bowfishing day at 1 reservoir where u get prizes per weight of carp you shoot
fun stuff..
i think sunfish, however common, are an interesting species that is often overlooked, same with all natives pretty much, not only do they offer something new, i dont have to put a lil pink castle in my tank to match my tropicals(jk, i like tropicals too, but dont like the bright colors)
and i too advocate keeping natives, theyre free mostly, and very cool
fishyz
06-09-2006, 9:42 PM
No but I had an uncle that would shove a chery bomb or M-80 into the throat of a carp and toss it back..., Blurp! He called it chumming. He hated carp.
Carp arn't natives so I don't really care for them so I might give this a try.
sandtiger
06-09-2006, 9:54 PM
I think it's because they're just to close to home. I plan on promoting keeping native whenever I can.
The majority of the population want what's rare or unique or worth money. Natives can be found right in your own backyard and people take that for granted, oddly enough the fish native to the U.S. are very popular in Europe. It's not just natives either, it goes with other fish as well. There were fish in the past that were very commonly sold in LFS, they were so common people would stop buying them. Because of that people stopped selling them and now they are rare, so people want them again. If you were to switch Asian arows with oscars (the oscars being rare and expensive and the arowanas being cheap and common) you would have people obsessed with getting an oscar and not giving the Asian arowana a second glance..
sandtiger
06-09-2006, 9:57 PM
Carp arn't natives so I don't really care for them so I might give this a try.
I think being fishkeepers and such we need to show a bit more respect for every fish, native or not, common or rare. Carp don't need to live in our waters and should be gotten rid of but I don't think your's or guppy's uncles is the adult or mature way to deal with the situation. ;)
fishyz
06-09-2006, 10:07 PM
This is true but they do need to be rided of.
fishyz
06-09-2006, 10:10 PM
The majority of the population want what's rare or unique or worth money. Natives can be found right in your own backyard and people take that for granted, oddly enough the fish native to the U.S. are very popular in Europe. It's not just natives either, it goes with other fish as well. There were fish in the past that were very commonly sold in LFS, they were so common people would stop buying them. Because of that people stopped selling them and now they are rare, so people want them again. If you were to switch Asian arows with oscars (the oscars being rare and expensive and the arowanas being cheap and common) you would have people obsessed with getting an oscar and not giving the Asian arowana a second glance..
That's also very true (and sad to see) but there are endangered cichlids that are being breed in captivity by tons of people but nobody (in America atleast) really cares about endangered natives.